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After Congress said it is willing to go in bed with SS, there is no way the leftists can complain
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Whew. Maharashtras tijori is out of INCs hands. This is a very big deal and a big win. SS getting cut to size is icing on the cake. I wont be surprised if the party splits and a new SS emerges with some other guy taking the helm.
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I have always maintained from the start that this is a BJP/NCP plan to destroy Sena/CON.

BJP was the anvil and Pawar was the hammer.
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media is running news based on tweets.
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Ok. Another twist. Or is this parody account ?


Sharad Pawar
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Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.
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abhijitm wrote:media is running news based on tweets.
Shah, along with Sena and CON credibility has also destroyed Piddi Media credibility.

This was chanakyian!
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Raut was pawar's handler all along
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This is all a big game played by BJP, congress and NCP. The bjp did not want to give up the cm chair and did not go to SS. The congress did not want to go with SS but also feared revolt from the local unit. Hence they played along till NCP made the moves. Ahmed Patel meeting gadkari was an indication. The NCP wanted to go with bjp but did not want to look bad by breaking alliance. Hence party was broken under a younger leader. This is the same technique Kumaraswamy used to support bjp.
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Rony wrote:Ok. Another twist. Or is this parody account ?


Sharad Pawar
@PawarSpeaks
Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.

The account is real. So it looks like

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1. NCP says Sharad Pawar didn’t know.

2. Sharad Pawar says he didn’t know.

3. If this is true, the only possibility is that Amit Shah has broken the NCP from under Sharad Pawar’s nose, convincing nephew to dump uncle. :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Rony wrote:Ok. Another twist. Or is this parody account ?


Sharad Pawar
@PawarSpeaks
Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.
Yes .. Devegauda too said something similar when Kumaraswamy joined hands with BJP long back.
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Rony wrote:Ok. Another twist. Or is this parody account ?
Sharad Pawar
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Not a parody account at all. It is certified pawaarful account .
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Talking about clueless media, here's NDTV's article not even 15 hours ago:

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/maharas ... ight-meet-

Maharashtra Government Formation: Uddhav Thackeray and his son Aaditya Thackeray met NCP chief Sharad Pawar late Thursday night.
All India | Reported by Saurabh Gupta, Sunil Prabhu, Edited by Deepshikha Ghosh | Updated: November 22, 2019 18:42 IST
Sources say the Sena chief is under pressure from the NCP and the Congress to take the top post, but he has suggested other names. At a midnight meeting with Uddhav Thackeray and his son Aaditya Thackeray, NCP chief Sharad Pawar had said that there would be consensus in the alliance only if the Sena chief agreed to be chief minister.
...under pressure to be the CM.....bwaahahaaaa

This is the best movie of 2019.
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Raut is giving clean chit to SP! this guys is playing his own game with UT.

I remember vaguely many years ago raut took liberty and wrote editorial criticising some thackray's decision. He received lot of protest and forced to say sorry. Why I feel that he is taking his revenge on his earlier boss's son.
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Sharad Pawar Verified account @PawarSpeaks

Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.

7:57 PM - 22 Nov 2019
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Some implications:
1. SS is finished. They compromised on their core principles for power, which they did not get. They are now just a bunch of street thugs. The winnable candidates will probably defect. DV is probably waiting for street protests to turn violent, so he can arrest some of the SS thugs.
2. Cong is finished in Mah too. Also, SG chose to listen to the local leadership (which wanted the alliance with SS) rather than the coterie. Old guard will call the shots in future, weakening local leaders and RaGa's younger team.
3. Warning to Nitishwa to know his `Aukat' and not do a SS on BJP.
4. Independents will probably do a ghar wapsi, back to BJP.
5. The English media was clueless.
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Karan M wrote:Whew. Maharashtras tijori is out of INCs hands. This is a very big deal and a big win. SS getting cut to size is icing on the cake. I wont be surprised if the party splits and a new SS emerges with some other guy taking the helm.

They struck at the very last minute, but only when all the credibility
of the congi, NCP and the SS was totally destroyed in the eyes of the voting public.

The SS may split and merge into the BJP because the BJP would not want junior pawarful peoples blackmailing them.

After BT's demise, different power centres have emerged in the SS and factionalism is rampant. UT's hold is at best slightly better than marginal.
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chetak wrote:
Sharad Pawar Verified account @PawarSpeaks

Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.

7:57 PM - 22 Nov 2019
:)

ANI
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Sources: NCP Chief Sharad Pawar was part of discussions for Devendra Fadnavis led Maharashtra Govt formation, he had given his assent to Ajit Pawar
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Raut: At 9 pm Ajit Pawar disappeared from meeting :lol:
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Like DDLJ last scene of the train leaving platform, when SRK held the hand of Kajol - AS too, okayed the declaration this morning culminating the month-old drama, its only AS knows best what length and thickness of the rope to be given to the opponent so that he can hang himself very conveniently, all the while thinking that he is weaving a hammock to enjoy the sweet ride for the next 25 years (SR wanted SS CM for the next 25 years in Mah).
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Indian Today Live

1. Yesterdin, NCP elected Ajit Pawar as the leader of NCP legislature.
2. They all signed on a letter of support on government formation where the name of the CM was left blank. :rotfl:
3. The blank was filled in today with with DF's name. :rotfl:

What was the game the?
1.The above was done to prevent any wiff of doubt on the game. Also to prevent dissent within the ranks.
2. BJP/NCP also dragged the whole affair to allow for public revulsion to build up so that when BJP/NCP would then become more palatable.
3. Also allow time for Sena and CON to disrobe publicly on their own.
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Never trust snake oil salesmen. #Maharashtra lesson


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Rony wrote:That is why i waste my time on BRF. What a prediction, Pankajs, KL Dubey take a bow :rotfl:
Thank you saar!
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What exquisite timing!

When all today's Papers carried BOLD headline with UT as the CM on the Front page. :rotfl:
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pankajs wrote:I have always maintained from the start that this is a BJP/NCP plan to destroy Sena/CON.

BJP was the anvil and Pawar was the hammer.
1000 pranam to you for having this insight from day 1
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:(( :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:lol: :eek: :rotfl: :roll: :D
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sum wrote:
pankajs wrote:I have always maintained from the start that this is a BJP/NCP plan to destroy Sena/CON.

BJP was the anvil and Pawar was the hammer.
1000 pranam to you for having this insight from day 1
Thank you ... :D
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Wow this is amazing I am so happy. Great work by BJP !!!

Now SS should be broken and good faction should be merged into BJP. This will also help them increase their count in this election. UT and AT have no where to go ... :)
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Per Supriya Sule there is a formal split in party and family.
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Shiv Sena MLAs frustrated with Raut: BJP MLA
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Sharad Pawar-Uddhav presser at 12:30 pm
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If indeed there is a split in the NCP, then how can BJP claim they have support of all 54 NCP MLAs. Has the final script of this soap opera been written yet?
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This is 2nd strike by Pawarful on Italian pariwar.

1st strike was when Sonia's PM oath taking was struck down on foreigner issue.
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CRamS wrote:If indeed there is a split in the NCP, then how can BJP claim they have support of all 54 NCP MLAs. Has the final script of this soap opera been written yet?

We will know won't we?

In all this drama, the most valuable lesson to be learnt is that, " the game is never over until all the cards have been played".

Who holds what cards and how they are played is what defines winners and losers.

Finally money talks and BS walks.

At this time i will hold my judgement and wait for some time before i will pronounce the true winners and losers.
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Since the speaker is not yet chosen anti deflection aw option also gone. New speaker can take unlimited time as per sc ruling Congress got for KA
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Sharad Pawar may be complicit in all this and will only reveal when he wants to. Mulla Yadav, Devegowda all followed same pattern and later made up with their son. Pawar will play victim and slowly news will trickle that he knew. SS will be even more embarassed/insulted day by day.
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Split SS now .....
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