2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 13 Oct 2019 17:45

chetak wrote:
Karthik S wrote:
That's minister of state for external affairs for you.
demonstrated secular credentials.

cost nothing.

good visuals.

win win all round.

no harm, no foul.

BTW the lease for most of lands held by the church has expired. Govt should bring this into public's discourse, they have been making good money through real estate.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 13 Oct 2019 18:20

Karthik S wrote:
chetak wrote:
demonstrated secular credentials.

cost nothing.

good visuals.

win win all round.

no harm, no foul.
BTW the lease for most of lands held by the church has expired. Govt should bring this into public's discourse, they have been making good money through real estate.

yes, indeed.

but they are making a great deal more in black from school and college donations and bishops and cardinals are getting sacked by the bada pitha in rome for crooked real estate deals.

Its a real cushy life boys, girls, wine and song with plenty of cash to burn and splurge.

and all this after they have taken a vow of poverty.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 13 Oct 2019 21:04

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Danger of too much Gandhi bhakti by top leadership, even if as Teqiyya, is that cadre on ground emulates it in practice. Extremely risky

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 14 Oct 2019 02:08

Karthik S wrote:
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Danger of too much Gandhi bhakti by top leadership, even if as Teqiyya, is that cadre on ground emulates it in practice. Extremely risky

I think this is a well thought out of strategy. by taking gandhi away from congress and painting them as a Nehru clan. i personally would like the current dispensation to promote Bose, Patel and Tilak but 70 odd years of education system has built a mythology of Gandhi and critiquing him has negative returns as shown by the Pragyaa episode.

PS: some one from BJP/Sangh had said the Godse targeted the wrong person.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 14 Oct 2019 03:27

Karthik S wrote:
V. Muraleedharan
@MOS_MEA
Leading Indian delegation to Vatican for Canonization of Sister Mariam Thresia tomorrow. Glad to meet the delegation from ‘Congregation of the Holy Family’ founded by Sister Thresia at the Rome Airport.
@narendramodi@PMOIndia@AmitShah@DrSJaishankar@MEAIndia@IndiainItaly
That's minister of state for external affairs for you.

Gave a Gita to the Pope. Well done!

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 14 Oct 2019 09:37

chetak wrote:
Karthik S wrote:
That's minister of state for external affairs for you.
demonstrated secular credentials.
cost nothing.
good visuals.
win win all round.
no harm, no foul.

Jaishankar is arguably the most qualified and articulate EAMs. Better to have him lead the delegation for the reasons mentioned, than say the CM of Kerala or some Indian church leader, who might indulge in Hindu/India bashing while he is there. He would probably meet a few European diplomats while he is there.

The nomination of Saint from Kerala is just a cynical business strategy. The Church's single minded focus on making money for the last 1000 years,
will put to shame the most ruthless corporation. Kerala is one of the very few growth markets left for the Church - throwing a saint in their direction once every couple of decades ensures uninterrupted donations from the faithfools.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 14 Oct 2019 09:46

Its a real cushy life boys, girls, wine and song with plenty of cash to burn and splurge.

And natives to blame and throw mud at for much sought after holy points what's that called, which coincidentally cannot be earned by servicing poor of same religion!

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 14 Oct 2019 10:19

Karthik S wrote:BTW the lease for most of lands held by the church has expired. Govt should bring this into public's discourse, they have been making good money through real estate.

Two questions arise:-
1. Which government should bring this into public's discourse? The state governments or central government? When it comes to religion, my understanding is that states also have a major role to play.
2. Why should an elected government, who ideally should NOT be showing bias to any religion bring up such a thing? Rather it is for the people (or organisations) to gather evidence and then put it up for public discourse. What is stopping Hindu (or any non-X'ian) organisation to work on this ?

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chetak wrote:Its a real cushy life boys, girls, wine and song with plenty of cash to burn and splurge.

Things are fast changing at least in KL. The faithful sheep are no more fools. This happened in last 2-3 weeks in KL alone. A priest ran away with a nun, to a European country. And to add insult to injury he also took away the "donations" given by the believers to build a new church

. Then there was a case of a nun deciding to call it quits and landing up at the home of her boy friend. The family tried to pressurise her to go back to the convent, but she did not budge. Then last year there were multiple cases of misappropriation of church funds with even an Arch Bishop facing the music.

Deans wrote:The nomination of Saint from Kerala is just a cynical business strategy
.....throwing a saint in their direction once every couple of decades ensures uninterrupted donations from the faithfools.

Every "Saint" (!?) is to have done some miracle in order to be given that rank. And you know what, they have got a medical doctor (a Hindu by his name) to certify that some patients were cured of serious diseases by this nun

. This is when the same English Medicine doctors abuse and ridicule every other form of native treatments (like Ayurveda etc.). For them only their form of medical science is scientific & proven, yet they have no problems when some one from their own group gives "evidence" to make a nun a saint.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 14 Oct 2019 10:31

https://www.opindia.com/2019/10/ed-dawo ... ssion=true

ED crackdown on Dawood’s India network, Praful Patel’s firm revealed to have links
OpIndia Staff On October 12, 2019

The Enforcement Directorate has launched a massive crackdown on properties linked with Dawood Ibrahim and his associates. As per sources in the Mumbai Police several politicians, through numerous firms and private companies, are found to have links with those properties.

As per sources, the ED has zeroed in the properties of a key Dawood associate named Iqbal Memon alias ‘Mirchi’. While tracking Mirchi’s business ventures and properties in India and the UK, the ED has discovered links with a firm that is linked to former UPA-era civil aviation minister Praful Patel and his wife Varsha Patel.

As per the list of Mirchi’s properties located in India and the UK, A 15-story building in Dr Annie Besant Road, Worli, named ‘Ceejay House’ was constructed as a JV between Mirchi and M/S Millenium Developers Pvt Ltd in 2006-07.

In 2007, the third and fourth floors of the building were given to Mirchi’s family by Millenium Developers.

Former Union Minister Praful Patel and his wife Varsha Patel own a significant number of shares in Millenium Developers Pvt Ltd. In the documents, the 12th floor of the CeeJay House is mentioned as the address of Praful and Varsha Patel.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Oct 2019 10:49

Deans wrote:
chetak wrote:
demonstrated secular credentials.
cost nothing.
good visuals.
win win all round.
no harm, no foul.
Jaishankar is arguably the most qualified and articulate EAMs. Better to have him lead the delegation for the reasons mentioned, than say the CM of Kerala or some Indian church leader, who might indulge in Hindu/India bashing while he is there. He would probably meet a few European diplomats while he is there.

The nomination of Saint from Kerala is just a cynical business strategy. The Church's single minded focus on making money for the last 1000 years,
will put to shame the most ruthless corporation. Kerala is one of the very few growth markets left for the Church - throwing a saint in their direction once every couple of decades ensures uninterrupted donations from the faithfools.

the vatican would canonize a RSS Gen Secy if they thought that it would be hailed by the RSS because rome is that desperate to break into the Indian market. Its just a sales strategy with targets assigned to territories.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 14 Oct 2019 10:54

Manish_Sharma wrote:https://www.opindia.com/2019/10/ed-dawo ... ssion=true

ED crackdown on Dawood’s India network, Praful Patel’s firm revealed to have links
OpIndia Staff On October 12, 2019

The Enforcement Directorate has launched a massive crackdown on properties linked with Dawood Ibrahim and his associates. As per sources in the Mumbai Police several politicians, through numerous firms and private companies, are found to have links with those properties.
...

Former Union Minister Praful Patel and his wife Varsha Patel own a significant number of shares in Millenium Developers Pvt Ltd. In the documents, the 12th floor of the CeeJay House is mentioned as the address of Praful and Varsha Patel.

Isn't this "Praful Patel" the matermind behind the destruction of Air India by relinquishing profitable routes to gulf carriers and bringing Indian Aviation down to it's knees. The connection now becomes more obvious.

Mollick.R · Post by **Mollick.R** » 14 Oct 2019 12:57

Point by point or word by word allegations of rock-star ex ArrBeeEye gaaarnaar looks ditto copy paste from speach of rabid guys like CBNaidu or Mumutaa Begam.
This Ford foundation plant guy is just preparing for a base to became future Robot 2.0 giving remote control to Rajmata.

I think gloves and masks are completely off now. Once again proved that BRF is always ahead of curve. Don't remember which ex ArrBeeEye gaaarnaar has spitted so much venom after leaving public office. It's just a matter of time that he will be next Robot 2.0 getting RS ticket from Khangress or getting LS ticket from some M dominated seat of Kerala or UP.

Majoritarianism taking India down ‘dark and uncertain path’: Rajan

MUMBAI: Former Reserve Bank of India governor Raghuram Rajan has attacked the Narendra Modi government, saying its majoritarianism and authoritarianism were taking the country down a “dark and uncertain path”. He also accused it of weakening institutions. The former RBI head also made a dark prognosis for the economy, stating in a recent
lecture that the government’s economic performance is not sustainable and that there is a risk of the country going the Latin America way in terms of populist policies. According to Rajan, “factors such as ill-conceived demonetisation and poorly executed GST” were the tipping point for the current slowdown. “Even while growth is slowing, the
government is pushing its welfare programme, which gives it a lot of political capital among people. There is tremendous pressure on the government for a stimulus. But you cannot keep spending, something has got to give,” Rajan said in his OP Jindal Lecture at Brown University in the US on October 9.

Rajan, who as IMF chief economist forecast the sub-prime crisis in 2005, said the stress in sectors such as finance and real estate was a symptom, and not the cause, of the slowdown. “The reason it is in stress is that we have not generated sufficient growth more broadly,” said Rajan. He blamed centralisation for the Modi government’s inability to progress on the economic front. “Modi did not do better in the economy during the first term because the government is extremely centralised which puts a lot of pressure on the leadership, which does not have a consistent, articulated vision on how to achieve growth,” said Rajan.“Ministers are disempowered. The bureaucrats are unwilling to take decisions on their
own and do not have a strong idea of serious reform,” said Rajan. “The bureaucracy’s effectiveness has been diminished because in parallel India is running a campaign against corruption in the past. For a bureaucrat there is no significant upside to taking action if he can be subject to vigilant (sic) inquiry by the next administration,” he added. “Even senior officials have been held in custody without upfront evidence. I do worry that the former finance minister has been held in jail without trial for over a month,” said Rajan.

“Because of the weakness of institutions every government runs the risk of turning authoritarian. This was true about Indira Gandhi after 1971 as it is true of the Modi government in 2019,” said Rajan. He said the key test of authoritarianism was whether institutions are being weakened or strengthened and the experience in India was not encouraging. “Even the high judiciary, which was so active in the past, has been strangely silent on the constitutional issue whether changes in Kashmir are warranted and whether the continuing restrictions on a sizable number of citizens there is okay
constitutionally,” the ex-RBI governor said. Raising the example of tax department raids on opposition leaders, Rajan said, “Why evaders are problematic only in opposition and not in members of the opposition who pledge allegiance to the ruling parties is unclear.

It certainly seems it is not unconnected to political affiliations,” he said. While central bankers have are usually reticent in matters outside the economy, Rajan has a reputation as a free thinker speaking out openly on
issues such as tolerance.

Highlighting that the ruling party identified majoritarian issues like triple talaq and Kashmir, Rajan said: “I don’t believe that the majoritarians improve national security. They weaken it, they want national integration on their terms. Majoritarian nationalism is intrinsically divisive because it labels a bunch of citizens the ‘others’ and sets impossible terms for these minorities to be considered true citizens. It ends up alienating them and,
as Lincoln said, a house divided by itself cannot stand.” Rajan warned that while majoritarinsim may win elections, it is taking India down a “dark and uncertain path”. “India is better off strengthening its democracy and decentralising,”
he said.

According to Rajan, Modi was elected to power a second time because allegations on the Rafael deal and closeness to business houses did not stick and also because, at the time of the election, the dialogue was changed from performance to national security. He said the government had “superb command over social media” which helped sell the
government’s performance widely. “Even today you see WhatsApp messages saying that 5% growth is wonderful without recognising that its come down,” said Rajan. Commenting on the perception that Modi is respected globally, Rajan said, “People respect Indian leaders not because of the force of their personality but because they represent a 1.3-billion-strong market democracy growing fast.”

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 561159.cms

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 14 Oct 2019 13:08

Manish_Sharma wrote:The Enforcement Directorate has launched a massive crackdown on properties linked with Dawood Ibrahim and his associates. As per sources in the Mumbai Police several politicians, through numerous firms and private companies, are found to have links with those properties.

We must credit the "secular" Congress party and sister concerns like NCP in coming up with an ecology system where they had their folks in pretty much every sector; including organised crime. I now get a feeling that folks like Dawood etc. all go their "larger than life" image mainly because of the C-System patronage. The other mafia dons like Haji Masthan, Varadaraj Mudaliar the Pathan Gang all seemed to have a much smaller foot print, with no much political support. Mumbai Mafia, Bhai wood, Jet Airways; all seemed to have "secular" party's blessings.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 14 Oct 2019 14:13

vimal wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:https://www.opindia.com/2019/10/ed-dawo ... ssion=true

ED crackdown on Dawood’s India network, Praful Patel’s firm revealed to have links
OpIndia Staff On October 12, 2019

The Enforcement Directorate has launched a massive crackdown on properties linked with Dawood Ibrahim and his associates. As per sources in the Mumbai Police several politicians, through numerous firms and private companies, are found to have links with those properties.
...

Former Union Minister Praful Patel and his wife Varsha Patel own a significant number of shares in Millenium Developers Pvt Ltd. In the documents, the 12th floor of the CeeJay House is mentioned as the address of Praful and Varsha Patel.
Isn't this "Praful Patel" the matermind behind the destruction of Air India by relinquishing profitable routes to gulf carriers and bringing Indian Aviation down to it's knees. The connection now becomes more obvious.

Subramanian Swamy in one interview circa 2013 said Sonia's both sisters with their arab boyfriends were working closely with praful Patel on destruction of our interests.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Oct 2019 14:57

the d-company linked gaddars, traitors and termites who sold out their country. The names of their political masters have already been exposed.

meanwhile, several birds have been singing in their new nests in tihar.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Oct 2019 16:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOIenoLUE4M

The political benefit over National Security?

RVS Mani discloses never before revealed facts!

Oct 13, 2019

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 14 Oct 2019 17:02

Mollick.R wrote:Majoritarianism taking India down ‘dark and uncertain path’: Rajan

All over the place this man..

From economics to politics. First he starts by saying that the fear of being struck with corruption scandals is what is causing ministers and babus to shy away from being proactive. Then he goes on to lament that "Rafael" allegations did not stick.

This after Not Modi but 1.3 billion Indians get respect, but lamenting that they elected NaMo.

Of course Cashmere gets a mention and judiciary as well..

I am surprised he didn't say it was Djnins..

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Oct 2019 17:31

yes indeed.

uncontrolled conversions plus rabid dravidianism plus BIF funded separatist ideology.

these guys think that no one can touch them and this is exactly why these thugs do not allow national parties to enter TN.

weak regional parties are always so much easier to control and lead by the nose.

twitter

Clear Signs of Increasing Radicalisation In South India @NIA_India Says : Maximum Number Of Arrested ISIS Accused by The Agency.. 33 out Of Nearly Over 100 Belong To Tamilnadu Followed By UP.

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 14 Oct 2019 17:34

Sachin wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:The Enforcement Directorate has launched a massive crackdown on properties linked with Dawood Ibrahim and his associates. As per sources in the Mumbai Police several politicians, through numerous firms and private companies, are found to have links with those properties.
We must credit the "secular" Congress party and sister concerns like NCP in coming up with an ecology system where they had their folks in pretty much every sector; including organised crime. I now get a feeling that folks like Dawood etc. all go their "larger than life" image mainly because of the C-System patronage. The other mafia dons like Haji Masthan, Varadaraj Mudaliar the Pathan Gang all seemed to have a much smaller foot print, with no much political support. Mumbai Mafia, Bhai wood, Jet Airways; all seemed to have "secular" party's blessings.

The growth in D gang's control of Mumbai underworld and Sharad Pawar's first stint as chief minister is not coincidental. Also the only Don who was a serious challenge to Dawood- Vardarajan Mudaliar was systematically targeted and taken down by congress government leaving the field open to D Gang.

There was also news of a minister in Sharad Pawar's cabinet- being caught by the intelligence agencies talking (his phone was tapped) to D Gang members in Dubai from his office telephone in Mantarlaya!!!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Oct 2019 17:40

Kashi wrote:
Mollick.R wrote:Majoritarianism taking India down ‘dark and uncertain path’: Rajan
All over the place this man..

From economics to politics. First he starts by saying that the fear of being struck with corruption scandals is what is causing ministers and babus to shy away from being proactive. Then he goes on to lament that "Rafael" allegations did not stick.

This after Not Modi but 1.3 billion Indians get respect, but lamenting that they elected NaMo.

Of course Cashmere gets a mention and judiciary as well..

I am surprised he didn't say it was Djnins..

rajan conveniently forgot to mention the many lakhs of crores that he and his pals had salted away as "reserves" with the RBI which would then have funded pappus gift of Rs 72,000 per farmer as dole.

this guy is a slick con artist and from the way he is frequenting India hoping to get into some non BJP govt, it looks like he may have hit the end of the road in the west and is desperately looking for greener pastures where he can spread his pure unadulterated BS.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Oct 2019 18:05

serious charges filed against shehla rashid is what made aunty "quit" politics. The removal of art 370 made her election a herculean task anyway, especially when the means to manipulate votes were removed and her jehadi pals are not running the show anymore.

twitter has been uncooperative and so the dilli police through the GoI has approached the US DoJ to get twitter to release the required information.

Six months after entry into mainstream politics, Shehla Rashid announces decision to quit

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#TwitterShieldsShehla After @TwitterIndia Refuses Authenticating Shehla Rashid’s Twitter Account Under An Emergency Proviso @DelhiPolice Approaches @HMOIndia With A MLAT Request For The @TheJusticeDept .

dinesh_kimar · Post by **dinesh_kimar** » 14 Oct 2019 19:32

I recently read an interview of Subhash Bose' s family member, probably his elder brother. He mentioned that SCB was often in hiding, had become a master of disguise, as the British had tried to kill him a no. of times.

So.....if one became a thorn in the British flesh, they would be eliminated. Wonder why they never tried the same with Gandhi and Nehru, who were also Congress party chiefs ?

Some criticism of the INA though, very poorly equipped and trained force, even with Huge German and Japanese support, and millions of rupees in Indian funds.

Maybe with hindsight, he should have tried for an internal organisation (like Maharana Pratap and Sivaji) rather than an external one thousands of miles away.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 14 Oct 2019 19:53

Su Swamy was so right about this poisonous snake Rajan

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 14 Oct 2019 21:03

From what I see, this is the beginning of the plan against NaMo for 2024

Morons Rajan and Abhijit will go to India via BIF to pontificate all the economic ills of India are because of NaMO.

This is the plan. Wait for a month before this buffoon hits the TV circles

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 14 Oct 2019 21:07

chetak wrote:
Kashi wrote:
All over the place this man..

From economics to politics. First he starts by saying that the fear of being struck with corruption scandals is what is causing ministers and babus to shy away from being proactive. Then he goes on to lament that "Rafael" allegations did not stick.

This after Not Modi but 1.3 billion Indians get respect, but lamenting that they elected NaMo.

Of course Cashmere gets a mention and judiciary as well..

I am surprised he didn't say it was Djnins..

rajan conveniently forgot to mention the many lakhs of crores that he and his pals had salted away as "reserves" with the RBI which would then have funded pappus gift of Rs 72,000 per farmer as dole.

this guy is a slick con artist and from the way he is frequenting India hoping to get into some non BJP govt, it looks like he may have hit the end of the road in the west and is desperately looking for greener pastures where he can spread his pure unadulterated BS.

+100 Their plan got unraveled...Nobel gives them the last chance to keep talking about NYAY , plan to give away lakhs of crores and then teach us for another 50 years about business friendliness and less political giveaways. I dont know how long this has been going on : pinch the baby and rock the cradle

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 14 Oct 2019 21:08

Breaking Indian forces unleash this marxist congress cretin now that Raghuram Rajan lost his relevancy. This banerjee guy will take over Raghuram Rajan's role and will start dissing the economy, exaggerated talk of recession and ranting on 'majoritarianism and fascism'.

The man who argued for tax terrorism to fund Congress’ draconian NYAY scheme awarded with Nobel Prize

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 14 Oct 2019 21:44

The very fact that he is a Ford Foundation funded fellow should disqualify him from any policy making advisory role in India.

Earlier Ford Foundation used to inject capitalists into socialist countries. Now they seem to inject communists to avoid India becoming a stronger economy

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 14 Oct 2019 22:18

chetak wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOIenoLUE4M

The political benefit over National Security?

RVS Mani discloses never before revealed facts!

Oct 13, 2019
...

Another direct account of details from the Mr Mani. They got PC but bigger fish is still free.

Hindu Terror: Reality Or Fabrication | RVS Mani | Mumbai Terror Attack | Sadhvi Pragya | Malegaon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeLYhDA30y8

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Oct 2019 22:55

vijayk wrote:From what I see, this is the beginning of the plan against NaMo for 2024

Morons Rajan and Abhijit will go to India via BIF to pontificate all the economic ills of India are because of NaMO.

This is the plan. Wait for a month before this buffoon hits the TV circles

before the 2019 elections, rajan was usually most active on runditv where some silly simpering anchor would slyly ask all the pre arranged questions and rajan would perform verbal calisthenics as paid.

even now he is spreading the falsehood that Modi is guilty in the rafale deal. This level of dishonesty in a public figure should mandatorily disqualify a person from any public or govt office.

According to Rajan, Modi was elected to power a second time because allegations on the Rafael deal and closeness to business houses did not stick and also because, at the time of the election, the dialogue was changed from performance to national security. He said the government had “superb command over social media” which helped sell the government’s performance widely. “Even today you see WhatsApp messages saying that 5% growth is wonderful without recognising that its come down,” said Rajan.

what about rajan's own proven shenanigans at the RBI, helping out nirav modi by amending policy immediately after the govt had changed and rajan himself perforce had to obtain renewed clearance from the new govt to operate.

Some men aren't overburdened with a conscience.

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 14 Oct 2019 23:24

^^ He is the son of an ex-RAW agent. Sad.

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 15 Oct 2019 00:06

schinnas wrote:The very fact that he is a Ford Foundation funded fellow should disqualify him from any policy making advisory role in India.

Earlier Ford Foundation used to inject capitalists into socialist countries. Now they seem to inject communists to avoid India becoming a stronger economy

A lot of activists protesting various development projects in India (most notably Naramada Andolan jaichands) have had their wards/relatives go to US under various scholarship programs funded by Ford Foundation.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 15 Oct 2019 00:20

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 569218.cms

If you want to tackle terror in Pakistan, we'll send our armymen there: Rajnath Singh to Imran Khan

Rajnath Singh also said that India will send its armed forces to Pakistan in this regard if the need arises.

KARNAL: Defence Minister Rajnath Singh on Sunday gave a piece of advice to Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan saying that India is ready to assist Pakistan if the neighbouring country is serious enough to combat terror on its soil.

He also said that India will send its armed forces to Pakistan in this regard if the need arises.

"I would like to make a suggestion to Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan. If you are serious enough to fight against terror, we are ready to assist you."

Pathan Bhai is back with this news

Use headphones and if you are sensitive type don't watch

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 15 Oct 2019 00:29

Ford Foundation is well known for it's cee aye yay connections and is an arm of the culinary institute of America to exert influence over opinion makers.

That said, it's no denying that Banerjee has done some good work in his field. His book, Poor Economics, came highly recommended by some of my friends, though I haven't read it.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 15 Oct 2019 01:43

chetak wrote:this is worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgXVMO5rdHg

Kashmir - The State & The Status by Srinath Raghavan, Manthan Samvaad 2019

Debunking Myths of Article 370 & Kashmir

The lecture ‘Kashmir-The State & The Status, Manthan Samvaad 2019’ by Srinath Raghavan on Article 370 is not only intellectually dishonest but also a very selective reading of history. The biggest claim he makes in his lecture is that militancy in Kashmir is a result of the erosion of Article 370. He offers no evidence but presents correlation as causality. There is no causation whatsoever and at one level, even correlation is not necessarily true.

The erosion of Article 370, in absolute terms, began with the 1952 Delhi agreement between Sheikh Abdullah and JL Nehru, itself. Further dilution of Article 370 happened way before militancy erupted in Kashmir in 1989. In fact, Raghavan conveniently overlooks the fact that Kashmir did not rise against India even during the 1965 war though Article 370 had been eroded substantially by then.

The fact is that those who led insurgency in Kashmir, were not believers of Article 370 to begin with. JKLF, Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, Ansar Ghazwat-ul-Hind, Wilayah-al-Hind (Islamic State of Jammu & Kashmir) and other terror groups are not proponents or supporters of Article 370. They have never been and they never will be. They have sought either clean separation from India or accession with Pakistan and the Islamic Ummah.

The Muslim United Front (MUF), an amalgamation of several Islamist and separatist groups (including parent bodies of JKLF, Hizbul Mujahideen), the precursor of Hurriyat Conference in Kashmir, contested elections of 1987, on the right to self-determination (the choices of which have only been two — India and Pakistan), on the slogan that J&K’s accession was illegal, on the idea of two nation theory and on communal Islamic rhetoric. Having failed to gather electoral/democratic support for their agenda, the constituents of the MUF, turned militant and brought Pakistan sponsored terrorism to Kashmir. That militancy with no relation to 370 is now three decades old.

Even today, none of the violent protests in Kashmir since the abrogation of Article 370, are about constitutional issues. Nobody has come to the streets, demanding restoration of J&K’s flag or constitution. Instead, militants and their over ground supporters (both sponsored by Pakistan) demand only one thing — secession from India. Raghavan conveniently ignores the entire history of militancy and makes a completely unsubstantiated claim that erosion of Article 370 led to militancy.

More importantly, Raghavan fails to recognize that its Kashmiri Muslims (Bakshi, Sadiq and even Sheikh) themselves who allowed for the erosion of Article 370, who have been fighting insurgency for the last 30 years and who have been killed for standing up for India in Kashmir. He also doesn’t tell his audience how erosion of Article 370 was really denial of rights. On the contrary, what he calls erosion, has been actually empowerment of people in J&K. For example, how can the extension of fundamental rights enshrined in the Indian constitution or jurisdiction of the Supreme Court to the state of J&K, be erosion of anything? How can greater rights be a cause of militancy?

Actually his entire argument is straight out of advocate AG Noorani’s tendentious exegeses published in Pakistani newspapers and in his books. The whole lecture is about the ‘state of Kashmir’. It is extremely unsettling when a scholar distorts facts. Kashmir is not a state; Jammu & Kashmir is a state. Kashmir was not a princely state, Jammu & Kashmir (including Ladakh) was. Kashmir did not accede to India; Jammu & Kashmir did.

J&K acceded to India using the same instrument of accession (introduced by the British in 1935) as other princely states but his lecture pretends as if only “Kashmir” acceded on special terms. It conveniently ignores the underlying reason of why other princely states merged with India completely while Kashmir became a problem.

None of the Noorani school of scholars are able to answer why did India anoint Sheikh Abdullah as the successor of Hari Singh in J&K? Sure he was the popular leader of Kashmir valley who had challenged the Dogra autocracy but were rulers of other princely states far more secular, democratic, progressive and just? Was Nizam of Hyderabad kinder and better as an administrator than Hari Singh? Why was Sheikh Abdullah more legitimate than the Dogra ruler, because, after all, he was unelected and untested on any constitutional floor too. So why did he get to negotiate Article 370 on behalf of the entire state with New Delhi? The answers to all these uncomfortable questions are not favorable to the narrative that has been set by a certain academic ecosystem in India.

The crux of Raghavan’s lecture is fundamentally this — Two Nation Theory is correct; Hindus and Muslims can’t coexist as equals; Muslims need same guarantees and special provisions that Jinnah sought; Kashmir, a Muslim majority valley, must dictate terms of relationship of J&K with New Delhi. If Kashmiri Muslims are not given special status in the union of India (which is Hindu dominated), they are justified to seek autonomy (the best alternative to partition) for the whole state of J&K.

The biggest problem with this line of thinking is that it completely ignores the fundamentals on which Nehru and Jinnah disagreed, leading to the Partition of India. India’s founding fathers envisaged a union with equality for everyone; Jinnah wanted a loose federation with special status for Muslims. In Nehru’s India, there is no scope for creating constitutional islands on religious lines.

Rampy · Post by **Rampy** » 15 Oct 2019 02:45

Rony wrote:Breaking Indian forces unleash this marxist congress cretin now that Raghuram Rajan lost his relevancy. This banerjee guy will take over Raghuram Rajan's role and will start dissing the economy, exaggerated talk of recession and ranting on 'majoritarianism and fascism'.

The man who argued for tax terrorism to fund Congress’ draconian NYAY scheme awarded with Nobel Prize

BTW this Nobel price is not the original Nobel prize thats given for Math, Physics etc. This is some Bull$shit award started from Sweden. Nothing to do with intellectual work

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 15 Oct 2019 04:51

chetak wrote:the d-company linked gaddars, traitors and termites who sold out their country. The names of their political masters have already been exposed.

meanwhile, several birds have been singing in their new nests in tihar.

[img...]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGz_nqoU8AA4b4V.jpg:large[/img]

Amounts stated in that news item are not big - INR 5 Cr. or INR 16 Cr. are chump change. The proverbial tip of the iceberg, perhaps.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 15 Oct 2019 05:49

dinesh_kimar wrote:I recently read an interview of Subhash Bose' s family member, probably his elder brother. He mentioned that SCB was often in hiding, had become a master of disguise, as the British had tried to kill him a no. of times.

So.....if one became a thorn in the British flesh, they would be eliminated. Wonder why they never tried the same with Gandhi and Nehru, who were also Congress party chiefs ?

Or Sardar Patel.

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 15 Oct 2019 06:00

Rony wrote:Breaking Indian forces unleash this marxist congress cretin now that Raghuram Rajan lost his relevancy. This banerjee guy will take over Raghuram Rajan's role and will start dissing the economy, exaggerated talk of recession and ranting on 'majoritarianism and fascism'.

The man who argued for tax terrorism to fund Congress’ draconian NYAY scheme awarded with Nobel Prize

Nothing that Amartaya Sen has not tried before without much success. This JNU/Congi ass will bark briefly till the nationalistic Indian public will shoo him away and he will go back to America like a true blue Marxist.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Oct 2019 07:07

Rampy wrote:
Rony wrote:Breaking Indian forces unleash this marxist congress cretin now that Raghuram Rajan lost his relevancy. This banerjee guy will take over Raghuram Rajan's role and will start dissing the economy, exaggerated talk of recession and ranting on 'majoritarianism and fascism'.

The man who argued for tax terrorism to fund Congress’ draconian NYAY scheme awarded with Nobel Prize
BTW this Nobel price is not the original Nobel prize thats given for Math, Physics etc. This is some Bull$shit award started from Sweden. Nothing to do with intellectual work

Right you are saar, there is no nobel for economics.

this is just some home made jugad to pamper and play up the commies, leftists and the naxals.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Oct 2019 07:12

Vayutuvan wrote:
chetak wrote:the d-company linked gaddars, traitors and termites who sold out their country. The names of their political masters have already been exposed.

meanwhile, several birds have been singing in their new nests in tihar.

[img...]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGz_nqoU8AA4b4V.jpg:large[/img]
Amounts stated in that news item are not big - INR 5 Cr. or INR 16 Cr. are chump change. The proverbial tip of the iceberg, perhaps.

the money is not so important as the bread crumbs and the trails leading back to the movers and shakers operating from the shadows and these are invariably the politicos and their pet darbari baboo(n)s