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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Katare » 03 Aug 2019 08:12

Demanding money to do what? Employers must be asking for something shady in return or approaching scums for that reason. I can’t believe that Hyderabad and Bengaluru doesn’t have genuine NGOs that will work for women’s protection. For a large company like infosys or IBM they might need full time onsite social workers to deal with large numbers of complaints, in that case Rs50k /month is pretty low figure.

For every bad NGO there are many great and dedicated ones with people devoting their entire life for the cause. Don’t forget RSS is also an NGO, world’s largest at that.

One must separate Self-serving politically motivated NGOs like Sabrang of Teesta Seetalwad from the grass root ones that run thousands of hostels, schools, hospitals and rehabilitation centers for people in needs.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 03 Aug 2019 09:46

Katare wrote:That is incorrect reading of the act. There is no employee limits set in the law, even a single worker in someone’s house working as maid is covered

From the link you posted.
Section 4 (2) (c) reads " one member from amongst non-governmental organisations or associations committed to the cause of women or a person familiar with the issues relating to sexual harassment:"
Section 4 (4) reads "The member appointed from amongst the non governmental organisations or associations shall be paid such fees or allowances for holding the proceedings of the Internal Committee as may be prescribed."

Sec 4 (4) conveniently does not spell out the details of the allowances for the useless NGOs, and also does not say if they have to be paid only when holding a proceeding. The NGOs naturally would misuse this provision to get free money month on month, even when there is not a single proceeding they need to attend. The only saving grace is or a person familiar with the issues relating to sexual harassment clause, using which I guess even an otherwise jobless lawyer known to the company can sit in ;).

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 03 Aug 2019 09:50

vijayk wrote:That is not the issue. Instead of repealing bad laws, stupid babus are Nirmala Sitaraman and Modi for a ride. These people are doubling down on laws that are put in place to loot, blackmail. Very very anti-constitutional laws were put in place to screw honest businessmen also.

I agree with you on laws which actually impede efficiency of running a business. But in case of CCD and VG Sidhartha looks like he willingly or unwillingly was part of shady deals. From what I understood when the IT folks actually taught him some maths and showed him he had unaccounted money; he could not even refute it properly. What may have gone wrong would be that he had expected that his politician friend would return money/help him financially when the need arose. Instead in classic politician behavior, he was dumped.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby siqir » 03 Aug 2019 10:08

if gov wants potemkin enterprises then that is what they will get

intelligent business people will not be foolish with their money for long

all these ngos should be required to sign up for mnrega jal shakti department and actually be of some use to society

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Postby Deans » 03 Aug 2019 11:56

Sachin wrote:
darshan wrote:. OpIndia spoke to the Superindentent of Police who confirmed to us that he has taken suo motu cognisance and is initiating preventive measure against Amit Shukla.

What is required here is to start a whisper campaign against Zomato. People can still say Zomato did a sloppy service (irrespective of the religious identity of the delivery boy). Looks like Zomato is using this incident as an advertisement campaign. The only way these people change, is when they lose money.

But, I do see a pattern here. Some one in authority makes a very anti-Hindu move, and the "seculars" exploit it. Then "communals" are grouping up and protesting. The "case of a magistrate and Quran" is an example.


I have some knowledge of the industry - the decision makes are usually kids from some Univ in the US, playing around with unlimited investor funds, who think they understand India. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a carefully planned PR exercise.

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Postby Deans » 03 Aug 2019 12:05

Sachin wrote:
Katare wrote:That is incorrect reading of the act. There is no employee limits set in the law, even a single worker in someone’s house working as maid is covered

From the link you posted.
Section 4 (2) (c) reads " one member from amongst non-governmental organisations or associations committed to the cause of women or a person familiar with the issues relating to sexual harassment:" The only saving grace is or a person familiar with the issues relating to sexual harassment clause, using which I guess even an otherwise jobless lawyer known to the company can sit in ;).


Some years ago, I ran a retail company in Bangalore with a lot of women employees. I had (interpreting section 4 (2)), invited a lady officer
from the services, to sit in as part of the committee, without the expectation of being paid. There are ways around dealing with `shady NGO's', though I would suspect the big IT companies would hire an expert on the subject (typically an experienced female lawyer) to be on their committee.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vijayk » 03 Aug 2019 16:27

Katare wrote:Demanding money to do what? Employers must be asking for something shady in return or approaching scums for that reason. I can’t believe that Hyderabad and Bengaluru doesn’t have genuine NGOs that will work for women’s protection. For a large company like infosys or IBM they might need full time onsite social workers to deal with large numbers of complaints, in that case Rs50k /month is pretty low figure.

For every bad NGO there are many great and dedicated ones with people devoting their entire life for the cause. Don’t forget RSS is also an NGO, world’s largest at that.

One must separate Self-serving politically motivated NGOs like Sabrang of Teesta Seetalwad from the grass root ones that run thousands of hostels, schools, hospitals and rehabilitation centers for people in needs.


All the companies need to set up committees and file details by a deadline.

When people approach these NGOs, they demand monthly payments. What are you going to do? There are definitely some genuine but finding one takes time and all of them are in demand.

Better approach could have been an organization of businesses/State Govt. which runs a committee and every company has to be part of that organization. Company puts up a notice in the office that people can file complaints there. Every state in US has COnsumer Division, Commission Against Discrimination etc.

My point is what constitutional standing does NGOs have. They are not bound by any of their commitment to Govt. or public that they have to be on this board. They created an NGO on a specific purpose and Govt. gives them tax benefits. Now why are they being brought into this. Next thing we will see is State Govt. officers asking their wives to start an NGO and forcing companies to take them on their board for under the table arrangement. Bound to happen just like CSR. A lot of ministers and IAS officers were doing that.

Why should BJP continue the civil society nonsense $onia brought into help her lackeys and missionaries?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vera_k » 03 Aug 2019 17:45

Govt to prepare NPR to lay foundation for pan-India NRC

The objective of the NPR is to create a comprehensive identity database of every usual resident in the country.


Waste of money given Aadhar is meant to achieve this very goal. Has Aadhar failed so badly that it needs to be replaced already?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 03 Aug 2019 18:08

Aadhar was never meant as a poof of citizenship and it is voluntary. Does that make sense now?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 03 Aug 2019 20:37

Allowing unfounded remarks on Indian press freedom unacceptable: Jaishankar tells UK and Canada governments after Vinod K Jose’s presentation
https://rightlog.in/2019/08/jaishankar- ... -india-01/
The Ministry of External Affairs led by S Jaishankar has asked United Kingdom (UK) and Canada why they allowed their soil to host an event on ‘unfounded’ remarks on Indian press freedom. The British and Canadian High Commissions were being held accountable for a presentation by Vinod K Jose, executive editor of The Caravan, an openly anti-India magazine which has been allowed to publish for more than a decade. The magazine has often taken a line sympathizing with Kashmiri armed separatism and Naxalism.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Katare » 03 Aug 2019 23:27

Sachin wrote:
Katare wrote:That is incorrect reading of the act. There is no employee limits set in the law, even a single worker in someone’s house working as maid is covered

From the link you posted.
Section 4 (2) (c) reads " one member from amongst non-governmental organisations or associations committed to the cause of women or a person familiar with the issues relating to sexual harassment:"
Section 4 (4) reads "The member appointed from amongst the non governmental organisations or associations shall be paid such fees or allowances for holding the proceedings of the Internal Committee as may be prescribed."

Sec 4 (4) conveniently does not spell out the details of the allowances for the useless NGOs, and also does not say if they have to be paid only when holding a proceeding. The NGOs naturally would misuse this provision to get free money month on month, even when there is not a single proceeding they need to attend. The only saving grace is or a person familiar with the issues relating to sexual harassment clause, using which I guess even an otherwise jobless lawyer known to the company can sit in ;).


Sachin,
IIRC, detailed rules are generally framed and notified by executives much later and this is a tool that governments of the day use to delay implementation. The law is still going through this phase. Not withstanding political rhetoric, Protection at workplace for women employees is a worthy goal despite the cost to businesses and government. It is no different a cost than what is spent on physical safety, retirement safety, medical or other benefits.

Bad NGOs trying to use this as an opportunity to extort money is also a reality that can’t be denied.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Pratyush » 04 Aug 2019 07:53

No one can compelle business to use an NGO they don't want to use.

I guess ref check will always take place before an NGO comes on board.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 04 Aug 2019 11:57

vijayk wrote:
Katare wrote:Demanding money to do what? Employers must be asking for something shady in return or approaching scums for that reason. I can’t believe that Hyderabad and Bengaluru doesn’t have genuine NGOs that will work for women’s protection. For a large company like infosys or IBM they might need full time onsite social workers to deal with large numbers of complaints, in that case Rs50k /month is pretty low figure.

For every bad NGO there are many great and dedicated ones with people devoting their entire life for the cause. Don’t forget RSS is also an NGO, world’s largest at that.

One must separate Self-serving politically motivated NGOs like Sabrang of Teesta Seetalwad from the grass root ones that run thousands of hostels, schools, hospitals and rehabilitation centers for people in needs.


All the companies need to set up committees and file details by a deadline.

When people approach these NGOs, they demand monthly payments. What are you going to do? There are definitely some genuine but finding one takes time and all of them are in demand.

Better approach could have been an organization of businesses/State Govt. which runs a committee and every company has to be part of that organization. Company puts up a notice in the office that people can file complaints there. Every state in US has COnsumer Division, Commission Against Discrimination etc.

My point is what constitutional standing does NGOs have. They are not bound by any of their commitment to Govt. or public that they have to be on this board. They created an NGO on a specific purpose and Govt. gives them tax benefits. Now why are they being brought into this. Next thing we will see is State Govt. officers asking their wives to start an NGO and forcing companies to take them on their board for under the table arrangement. Bound to happen just like CSR. A lot of ministers and IAS officers were doing that.

Why should BJP continue the civil society nonsense $onia brought into help her lackeys and missionaries?



This was just another ploy to provide income, power and social acceptability to many shady NGOs and help them to grow and spread like the BIF fungus that most of them are.

This is another NAC "solution" designed only to benefit the NGOs.

what exactly is the value that is brought to the table by such NGOs, how did they end up as "specialists" to perform such a specific role and to what end.

why not some high level female police officer, female company executive or even some female citizen instead of focussing on some dumb NGO.

most NGOs are corrupt anyway and are purchasable.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Suraj » 04 Aug 2019 22:16

With 26 Bills passed, Parliament session on way to being 'most productive'
On Friday, the Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha passed three Bills each. In its 35 sittings this session, the two Houses of Parliament have passed a staggering 26 Bills.

In terms of legislative business transacted during the first session of a fresh Lok Sabha, the government claims the current session is on course to be one of the most productive since the first Lok Sabha in 1952. Union ministers have said Parliament passing over two dozen Bills was evidence of increased productivity of Narendra Modi government 2.0.

The Opposition has variously accused the government of steamrolling Parliament, muzzling voices of dissent, refusing to build consensus on important issues and enacting laws in a hurry by refusing to refer a single of the 37 Bills introduced in the two Houses (32 in the Lok Sabha and 5 in the Rajya Sabha) for further scrutiny by sending Bills to standing or select committees in the ongoing session.

Until now, the government has turned down Opposition’s demand to send even a single Bill to parliamentary committees, particularly contentious ones. In its defence, the government has argued that some of the Bills, sent to committees during the tenure of the previous Lok Sabha, lapsed with the dissolution of the 16th Lok Sabha because the Opposition had blocked these then.

However, there were signs of a truce on Friday.

According to sources in Opposition parties, the government indicated it could agree to send some of the pending Bills for further scrutiny to parliamentary committees in the remaining three days of the session.

It is likely that Bills related to regulation of surrogacy, protection of transgender persons, occupational safety and inter-state river water disputes are sent to standing/select committees.

Opposition leaders argued that they had wanted some of the more contentious Bills referred to committees, particularly ‘triple talaq’, Unlawful Activities (Prevention), National Investigation Agency (Amendment), Right to Information and National Medical Commission Bills.

Opposition leaders also complained that the government had refused to accede to their demands of “short duration discussions” on burning issues, including one on the “freedom of the media” in the Rajya Sabha and are unhappy with the manner in which presiding officers have conducted proceedings in the two Houses.

The 'opposition' needs to realize that to oppose, they need a mandate big enough to be taken seriously. As it stands, they're just assorted flotsam washed into Parliament.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Prem Kumar » 04 Aug 2019 23:16

darshan wrote:Allowing unfounded remarks on Indian press freedom unacceptable: Jaishankar tells UK and Canada governments after Vinod K Jose’s presentation
https://rightlog.in/2019/08/jaishankar- ... m-india-01



I like Jaishankar already! Happy with the stance we are taking vis-a-vis the U.S, rubbing their sniper rifle (Amarnath Yatra) in their face. Haven't seen someone stand up for India for a long time.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 04 Aug 2019 23:22

Pratyush wrote:No one can compelle business to use an NGO they don't want to use.

I guess ref check will always take place before an NGO comes on board.


not all NGOs are acceptable to companies.

The majority are not even considered for this role because they plainly lack credibility and social heft.

The remaining few are the ones who are laying down conditions. Nothing in writing but all terms and conditions are verbally agreed.

These are the ones who are connected and seen as "serious" players who lend "credibility" to the proceedings. They have shady press and ministry connections and are often run by wives and daughters of baboo(n)s.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Katare » 05 Aug 2019 08:00

chetak wrote:
vijayk wrote:
All the companies need to set up committees and file details by a deadline.

When people approach these NGOs, they demand monthly payments. What are you going to do? There are definitely some genuine but finding one takes time and all of them are in demand.

Better approach could have been an organization of businesses/State Govt. which runs a committee and every company has to be part of that organization. Company puts up a notice in the office that people can file complaints there. Every state in US has COnsumer Division, Commission Against Discrimination etc.

My point is what constitutional standing does NGOs have. They are not bound by any of their commitment to Govt. or public that they have to be on this board. They created an NGO on a specific purpose and Govt. gives them tax benefits. Now why are they being brought into this. Next thing we will see is State Govt. officers asking their wives to start an NGO and forcing companies to take them on their board for under the table arrangement. Bound to happen just like CSR. A lot of ministers and IAS officers were doing that.

Why should BJP continue the civil society nonsense $onia brought into help her lackeys and missionaries?



This was just another ploy to provide income, power and social acceptability to many shady NGOs and help them to grow and spread like the BIF fungus that most of them are.

This is another NAC "solution" designed only to benefit the NGOs.

what exactly is the value that is brought to the table by such NGOs, how did they end up as "specialists" to perform such a specific role and to what end.

why not some high level female police officer, female company executive or even some female citizen instead of focussing on some dumb NGO.

most NGOs are corrupt anyway and are purchasable.


With all due respect chetak garu, Once in a while you should read a post or two before going off with generalized broad brushing things that has been already clarified!

Who said companies can’t use a high ranking IPS or women executive in place of an NGO representative?

If NGOs are corrupt, are you sure IPS are not or less corrupt? What makes them ( IPS or women executive) any more or less expert than NGOs that work with/on women’s issues exclusively?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Aug 2019 17:02

1. timesnow reporting massive rift in congress internally..
2. Says cong whip was against the party line...

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Postby arshyam » 05 Aug 2019 18:23

^^ https://swarajyamag.com/insta/congress- ... hmir-issue

The Congress party whip in Rajya Sabha Bhubaneswar Kalita resigned from the membership of the Upper House on Monday (5 August) citing opposition to the stand taken by his party on the Kashmir issue.

“The Congress has asked me to issue a whip regarding the Kashmir issue. However, the truth is that country’s opinion has changed and this whip is against the people’s wish..... I will not follow this whip and so I am resigning from the Congress,” Kalita said in his purported resignation letter. <snip>

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Postby abhik » 05 Aug 2019 18:28

^^^
As per another news channel, a couple of SP MP have also resigned.

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Postby arshyam » 05 Aug 2019 18:31

Venkaiah Naidu himself mentioned a couple of RS MPs resigning when today's session began. Not sure if they were the same..

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 05 Aug 2019 20:05

Katare wrote:
chetak wrote:

This was just another ploy to provide income, power and social acceptability to many shady NGOs and help them to grow and spread like the BIF fungus that most of them are.

This is another NAC "solution" designed only to benefit the NGOs.

what exactly is the value that is brought to the table by such NGOs, how did they end up as "specialists" to perform such a specific role and to what end.

why not some high level female police officer, female company executive or even some female citizen instead of focussing on some dumb NGO.

most NGOs are corrupt anyway and are purchasable.


With all due respect chetak garu, Once in a while you should read a post or two before going off with generalized broad brushing things that has been already clarified!

Who said companies can’t use a high ranking IPS or women executive in place of an NGO representative?

If NGOs are corrupt, are you sure IPS are not or less corrupt? What makes them ( IPS or women executive) any more or less expert than NGOs that work with/on women’s issues exclusively?


I just meant that this cannot and should not be the exclusive domain of the NGOs and if it has been made so, it is motivated.

Acceptable, trustworthy, reliable, and dependable female representation for this specific role is available from other more credible sources for sure, someone with basic knowledge of the law as well, perhaps.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Katare » 05 Aug 2019 22:36

Sir, the current situation is what you are asking for. It is Not exclusive domain of NGOs. Other women and man from different walk of life with relevant experience can substitute women NGO representative in the Investigation Committee.

You already have what you are asking for or want in the law.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vijayk » 05 Aug 2019 23:32

I know a lot of people jump in too quick emotionally on anything Govt. does. That includes me too.

ramanaji is always Bhishma pitamaha assuring long term vision ...

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Single golden rule that the entire RW should follow without fail, no matter what the situation, is to never react to any "news" item immediately, based on MSM reports

Remember always, an alternate set of facts could emerge when you scratch the surface and dig deeper!

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#ContrarianEconomicIndicator From UP to Punjab to Maharashtra, rural economic activity is surprisingly beginning to show strong signs of an uptick based on our independent assessment - Very Early Lead Indicators


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To me it looks like that the hype made by the Govt of India around minority scholarships was only a palliative for the bitter pills of anti-triple talaq and anti-nikah halala legislations. Ironical that it was the RWs who swallowed the bait instead of the intended prey.


Just need to to keep the above in mind next time.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vijayk » 06 Aug 2019 07:28

Dr Sachin Reddy
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He shall be dumped soon. And when the state heads to polls, Bihar shall have a new CM. Nitish is staring at the dead end of his political career, and most probably also his party's in it's current form!
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Ram
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BJP showed extraordinary generosity to Nitish. Especially after seeing the mandate Nitish should’ve realised how much BJP gave up to placate him. Imej reciprocates by not joining the Govt asking for more ministries and even worse, opposes scrapping of 370. Disloyal to the core.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 06 Aug 2019 21:46

twitter

Calendar of Supreme Court -> https://sci.gov.in/pdf/calendar/ApprovedCal2019.pdf

There's a whopping 86 days of leave for MiLords (33 Hols, 11 Winter Vacay, 42 Summer Vacay)

I am not even including 104 days of Sat/Sun Weekends

US SC Cal -> https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_argum ... lendar.pdf

Just 10 days of Federal Leave

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby schinnas » 06 Aug 2019 23:19

It takes immense amount of time to make notes and prepare judgements on constitutional matters running into hundreds of pages at times. If one looks at the number of judgements produced, Indian SC judges work more than US supreme court judges

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby shravanp » 06 Aug 2019 23:36

News alert: Sushma Swaraj critically ill. (rumors going on that she might have passed away)

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby rajsunder » 07 Aug 2019 06:19

vijayk wrote:
Dr Sachin Reddy
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He shall be dumped soon. And when the state heads to polls, Bihar shall have a new CM. Nitish is staring at the dead end of his political career, and most probably also his party's in it's current form!
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Ram
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BJP showed extraordinary generosity to Nitish. Especially after seeing the mandate Nitish should’ve realised how much BJP gave up to placate him. Imej reciprocates by not joining the Govt asking for more ministries and even worse, opposes scrapping of 370. Disloyal to the core.

Nitish kumar I believe was thinking that BJP is not going to get full majority and that his party can play around with central government. That did not happen and then he could not get the 6 ministries he was dreaming about.

I do not think he would even support UCC, It's better for BJP to plan ahead and prepare to fight solo from Bihar.

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Postby hanumadu » 07 Aug 2019 07:31

I think the agreement for seat sharing during GE was that in assembly BJP and JD(U) will contest the same number of seats. BJP will end up with more seats than Nitish and it will be their CM. The alliance will continue if only to rout RJD completely. JDUs time will come.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 07 Aug 2019 08:07

Om shanti, SS no more. Have you guys seen how pakis are tweeting? This was a lady who helped countless pakis when they required medical attention. pathetic.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 07 Aug 2019 20:00

‘Feminism in India’ protests against abrogation of Article 370 which was discriminatory against women
https://www.opindia.com/2019/08/feminis ... -protests-
against-abrogation-of-article-370-which-was-discriminatory-against-women/
It is a well-known fact that most left-liberal organisations in India are actually anti-BJP organisations. They use various agenda only to attack the BJP, and actually they don’t believe in the causes that they pretend to be supporting. This was once again proved when Feminism In India (FII), a digital feminist platform, protested against the abolition of a constitutional provision which was highly discriminatory against women.

Article 35A was inserted in the constitution by the present using the provisions of Article 370, which had defined permanent resident of Jammu and Kashmir. With Article 370, Article 35A has also been scrapped. According to Article 35A, if any women from Jammu and Kashmir had married a person from outside the state, such women had lost all the rights of property in J&K. They and their children could not own or buy property in the state. Even if Such women and their children resided in the state, they didn’t have property rights in the state. Therefore, this was an anti-women provision, and the Feminism In India should have been celebrating the abolition of this provision if they really believed in the rights of woman.

The Article 370 had meant that a large number of laws that apply to rest of India didn’t apply to Jammu and Kashmir. This included the Indian Penal Code. In a historic judgement, the Supreme Court had decriminalised homosexuality by striking down the section 377, but consensual homosexuality remained a crime in J&K as it was still a crime under Ranbir Penal Code applicable for the state. The FII claims to champion LGBT rights, but they are protesting against a move which promotes LGBT rights in Jammu and Kashmir.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 07 Aug 2019 20:08

‘Liberals’ troll Jyotiraditya Scindia for daring to go against the party stand to root for India on Article 370
https://www.opindia.com/2019/08/liberal ... ticle-370/
No sooner did Scindia showed some courage to extend support to something that was pro India and against the party’s stand, the ‘liberals’, who champion free will in their spare time, descended upon his timeline to question him whether he is also joining the BJP.

Since stripping down of Article 370 in Kashmir, Congress, along with other Opposition parties has maintained that it is against the move. While most members of the Congress including ex-president, Rahul Gandhi has been toeing the Pakistani line and speaking against the move there are few who have gone against their party’s stand to bat for this bold and pathbreaking decision taken by Modi led NDA government.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 07 Aug 2019 22:48

he is still "chairing" the CWC.

Has pappu not "accepted" his own resignation that he "put up" to the president of the CWC who is himself.

he certainly enjoys vast powers as a dynast.



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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vijayk » 07 Aug 2019 23:33

darshan wrote:‘Liberals’ troll Jyotiraditya Scindia for daring to go against the party stand to root for India on Article 370
https://www.opindia.com/2019/08/liberal ... ticle-370/
No sooner did Scindia showed some courage to extend support to something that was pro India and against the party’s stand, the ‘liberals’, who champion free will in their spare time, descended upon his timeline to question him whether he is also joining the BJP.

Since stripping down of Article 370 in Kashmir, Congress, along with other Opposition parties has maintained that it is against the move. While most members of the Congress including ex-president, Rahul Gandhi has been toeing the Pakistani line and speaking against the move there are few who have gone against their party’s stand to bat for this bold and pathbreaking decision taken by Modi led NDA government.


He and his supporters should quit party after CWC resolution

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 08 Aug 2019 15:58

Rajasthan: Dalit woman commits suicide in Bharatpur after allegedly tortured and threatened by police
https://www.opindia.com/2019/08/rajasth ... by-police/
A Dalit woman named Amita Devi (35) allegedly committed suicide by hanging herself to death on Tuesday due to torture by police. She took the extreme step in her house at Bhandor village in Sewar police station area of Bharatpur district in Rajasthan.

This is, however, not the first time Rajasthan police has been accused of this kind of mistreatment and brutality. A similar case where Rajasthan police had been charged for allegedly gang-raping and brutally beating up a Dalit woman in Sardarshahr Police station in Churu, Rajasthan had been reported on July 16, 2019.

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RSS worker in Rajasthan thrashed brutally by 5 Muslim men for celebrating the abrogation of Article 370
https://www.opindia.com/2019/08/rss-wor ... -decision/
According to Times Now, a local RSS worker, Sandeep Gupta, was beaten up brutally by 5 Muslim youth. The report says that according to the father of Sandeep Gupta, he was beaten up by the Muslim youth for celebrating the abrogation of Article 370 in Jammu and Kashmir.

According to the father, Sandeep Gupta has been severely hurt on his stomach and head. He was informed by Sandeep’s friends that he was thrashed and brought to the hospital.

Himanshu, an RSS worker from Kota said that there 5-7 Muslim boys started beating Sandeep Gupta up after stopping him on the road. Then, when Sandeep saved his life and managed to run away from there, another group of Muslim boys caught hold of him and started beating him up brutally. This is when Sandeep got seriously hurt in his stomach and head. Himanshu said that Sandeep was unconscious for over 2 hours and is still not in the state to speak.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 08 Aug 2019 16:35

In a head scratcher. Hopefully, courts take it further and themselves start writing in Hindi and not illegible english.

‘Too Much Flowery Language’: Delhi HC Slams Use Of Urdu, Persian By Cops In FIRs; Seeks Explanation
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/too-much- ... xplanation

The Delhi High Court on Wednesday (7 August) directed the Delhi Police Commissioner to explain the use of Persian or Urdu terms in a FIR when the same are not used by the complainant, reports The Hindu.

“Too much flowery language, the meaning of which is to be found out by a dictionary, should not be used. An FIR should be in the words of the complainant,” said the Bench of Chief Justice DN Patel and Justice C Hari Shankar.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 08 Aug 2019 18:03

vijayk wrote:
darshan wrote:Liberals’ troll Jyotiraditya Scindia for daring to go against the party stand to root for India on Article 370
https://www.opindia.com/2019/08/liberal ... ticle-370/
No sooner did Scindia showed some courage to extend support to something that was pro India and against the party’s stand, the ‘liberals’, who champion free will in their spare time, descended upon his timeline to question him whether he is also joining the BJP.

Since stripping down of Article 370 in Kashmir, Congress, along with other Opposition parties has maintained that it is against the move. While most members of the Congress including ex-president, Rahul Gandhi has been toeing the Pakistani line and speaking against the move there are few who have gone against their party’s stand to bat for this bold and pathbreaking decision taken by Modi led NDA government.


He and his supporters should quit party after CWC resolution


no action will be taken against scindia.

his votebank is almost exclusively Hindu and after losing the elections he cannot be expected to take things lying down and not protect his turf.

this has been done with prior knowledge of his party and is no "revolt" as is being portrayed by an ignorant press.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 08 Aug 2019 19:05

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