2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nachiket » 09 Oct 2019 03:06

ramana wrote:End of this month Harayana, Jharkand, and Maharashtra go to polls and are expected to be won by BJP.

Only debate is the margin.

This was the result last time in MH. Point to be noted is all four main parties - BJP, SS, INC and NCP contested separately last time. This time BJP-SS and INC-NCP both have alliances.

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Party                     Seats contested   Seats won   Vote Percentage
Bharatiya Janata Party        260             122         27.8
Shiv Sena                     282             63          19.3
Indian National Congress      287             42          18.0    
Nationalist Congress Party    278             41          17.2    


I have skipped the smaller parties.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KJo » 09 Oct 2019 03:30

ramana wrote:End of this month Harayana, Jharkand, and Maharashtra go to polls and are expected to be won by BJP.

Only debate is the margin.


Assuming this happens, how will this impact RS?
Once RS majority is obtained, Modi.Shah will be able to go bonkers with their agenda.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nachiket » 09 Oct 2019 03:35

KJo wrote:
Assuming this happens, how will this impact RS?
Once RS majority is obtained, Modi.Shah will be able to go bonkers with their agenda.

All 3 are already ruled by BJP. So they won't be gaining any seats in RS if they win.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 09 Oct 2019 03:40

And they don't go bonkers.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nachiket » 09 Oct 2019 04:21

BJP is not going to get RS majority anytime soon, especially after last year's losses in MP, RJ and CG. But there are ways around it as they showed during the 370 removal. That was one thing where most people agreed the govt. would need RS majority to get it through. But that didn't turn out to be the case when push came to shove. They just miscalculated how non-NDA parties would vote.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 09 Oct 2019 07:02

Not all issues resonate like Art 370 or 3T.

Good to have own numbers.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby A_Gupta » 09 Oct 2019 07:57

Cong likely to withdraw from BDC elections’ contest
https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/cong-lik ... s-contest/
JAMMU, Oct 8: The Congress Party is likely to withdraw from the contest in the Block Development Committee (BDC) elections in Jammu and Kashmir.

While National Conference has already dropped enough hint not to contest elections in view of detention of its many leaders in Kashmir, the PDP has maintained silence over the matter, showing no interest in the unilateral decision of the ruling dispensation at the Centre about elections. Moreover, tomorrow is the last date of filing nominations up to 2 pm.

Two senior PCC leaders told the Excelsior that tomorrow (Oct 9) is the last date of filing nominations for the post of Chairman of the Block Development Councils. But till today, many Congress leaders are under detention in Kashmir. While Panchayat elections were held on non-party basis, the BDC elections have been declared on the party basis.

They revealed that all the BJP leaders and activists are moving free and carrying on their political activities and campaign, many leaders of not only Congress Party, but those from the main regional parties like- NC and PDP are still kept under restrictions/detention. The security of many leaders has been withdrawn and movement of the party leaders has been restricted. Under such circumstances, it is not possible to contest elections for them.

They pointed out that BJP has worked out the selection process of contesting candidates from Block, to District and State levels and declared lists but the Congress leadership was not given time to work on this exercise, due to restrictions. “This is basically the mockery of democracy. Let the BJP contest elections itself as it is hell bent to grab power by adopting any means, eroding sanctity of the democratic institutions,” they regretted.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby A_Gupta » 09 Oct 2019 07:59

2 LeT militants killed in Awantipora
https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/2-let-mi ... wantipora/
SRINAGAR, Oct 8: Two militants of Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) were killed in a fierce gun battle in South Kashmir’s Pulwama district today.

Security forces including Army, Central Reserve Police (CRPF) and Special Operations Group (SOG) of Jammu and Kashmir Police this morning launched an operation in Kawani village of Awantipora area of South Kashmir’s Pulwama district after inputs about presence of two militants hiding in the village.

The troops laid siege to the village and closed all its exit and entry points so that the militants may not flee from the cordoned off area. They conducted house to house searches during which militants fired upon troops, leading to a fierce gun battle.
The gun battle continued for several hours and militants tried to shift their place during the encounter. The house in which the militants were hiding and adjacent cow shed were damaged in the gun battle and fire that raised the house to rubble.

One militant of LeT Ufaid Farooq Lone alias Abu Muslim son of Farooq Ahmad Lone of Awantipora was killed at around noon. His body was recovered by the troops but they could not locate the second militant.

The operation continued for several hours during which troops cleared the debris of the structures that were damaged in the encounter. Body of another militant was later found in the cowshed and it was charred beyond recognition.
The body was later taken to Police Station Awantipora where he was identified as Mohammad Abbas son of Bashir Ahmad Bhat of village Kawani.

Bodies of both the militants were later handed over to the families of these militants. Police sources said that Ufaid Farooq Lone was active since 4th July 2018 and Mohammad Abbas from 26th April 2019.



This is first gun battle in South Kashmir and fourth in the Valley since August 5 when Articles 370 and 35A were abrogated. The first encounter took place in Old Town Baramulla on August 20 in which one militant Mohsin Gujri, was killed. This was followed by killing of another militant in Sopore area of North Kashmir’s Baramulla district.

Two militants who are yet to be identified have been killed in ongoing operation in Ganderbal forests. The operation was launched last month and one militant was killed on September 28 and another’s body was found in the forest area last week

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby A_Gupta » 09 Oct 2019 08:03

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 616145.ece
Kashmir restrictions ‘devastating’: U.S. House Committee

Weeks ahead of its Asia Subcommittee hearing on human rights in South Asia, the U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee (HFAC) said the communications shutdown is having a “devastating impact“ on Kashmiris and called for restrictions to be lifted.

“India’s communication blackout in Kashmir is having a devastating impact on the lives and welfare of everyday Kashmiris. It’s time for India to lift these restrictions and afford Kashmiris the same rights and privileges as any other Indian citizen,” the HFAC tweeted.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vimal » 09 Oct 2019 08:10

I was wondering did HFAC ever release statement on the genocide of Kashmiri Hindus?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 09 Oct 2019 08:39

ramana wrote:And they don't go bonkers.


Precisely saar.

Not criticizing because I know where kJo is coming from, but still, it's rather an unfortunate choice of words.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 09 Oct 2019 09:00

For folks who keep saying NYT, WaPo, NPR etc propaganda doesnt matter, each and every US senator so far who has made these comments on Kashmir has cited one of these rags. We have shown literally no guts in dealing with them.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 09 Oct 2019 11:41

SriKumar wrote:LBS does count as a great in my book. He took over after Nehru who died after the China war humiliation. India was in a bad shape due the war and the need to urgently raise new divisions to fight an aggressive CHina- who showed they could come into Assam at will. China threat loomed large at that time. The economy was under severe stress due to the need to build up new divisions facing China (I heard there was food shortages- Miss a meal on Monday' was a slogan). It is to LBS's credit Indian army was built to a point that in 1965 it was able to punch through upto Lahore, Pakistan, while keeping a credible defensive posture against CHina. LBS also took war to the settled Radcliff line after PAkistan crossed the LOC- showing Pakistan clearly that the LOC around Kashmir is an equivalent to our international border part of India. All this in 1.5 years is pretty good.


No PM as much a hawk he/she is can build army in 1 years especially when country was running on empty coffers.
Fortunately our army wasn't decimated in 1962, It was just bad leadership and lack of preparedness.
So to give credit to LBS for building Army is too much. We had some material help from USA which came in around 1962 war. About crossing IB in 1965, India considered Pakis crossing LAC as red line and had to respond back.
I think it is documented that Shastri Ji was reluctant to cross IB.
It wasn't that India had any other option post Ops Grand Slam. We were almost on the verge of losing Akhnoor.
It was the case of Use it or Lose it. Same India did not cross IB during Kargil as India still had few options.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 09 Oct 2019 12:36

truly sickular Hindu rashtra. :mrgreen:


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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 09 Oct 2019 12:38

More and more i read this religious objection BS, more i curse the fraud secularism that front loaded all the secular responsibilities on the majority faith and its offshoots, and let everyone else get a free pass in terms of bad behavior.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 09 Oct 2019 13:20

this is worth watching.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgXVMO5rdHg


Kashmir - The State & The Status by Srinath Raghavan, Manthan Samvaad 2019




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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sanjayc » 09 Oct 2019 13:38

A_Gupta wrote:https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kashmir-restrictions-devastating-us-house-committee/article29616145.ece
Kashmir restrictions ‘devastating’: U.S. House Committee

Weeks ahead of its Asia Subcommittee hearing on human rights in South Asia, the U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee (HFAC) said the communications shutdown is having a “devastating impact“ on Kashmiris and called for restrictions to be lifted.

“India’s communication blackout in Kashmir is having a devastating impact on the lives and welfare of everyday Kashmiris. It’s time for India to lift these restrictions and afford Kashmiris the same rights and privileges as any other Indian citizen,” the HFAC tweeted.


Says someone from a country which has put an entire race of Native Americans into fenced reservations and doesn't allow them to come out, or participate in any elections.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 09 Oct 2019 19:46

Secret of CONs electoral blunders and that is only increasing by the day ...

https://twitter.com/sadhavi/status/1181819438040895488
Sadhavi Khosla @sadhavi

Ajay Lallu contested Gorakhpur univ election as AISA candidate. Subsequently, he became AISA state secretary. Then congested 2007 assembly election in UP as CPI ML candidate. Then joined @INCIndia in 2011.

Communist takeover of congress is a work in very fast paced progress.

Communist hijacking started becoming visible with UPA-I with the formation of NAC. No wonder CON stand of the last 10-15 years but more after 2014 on all national issues toes the Communist, NGO, Tudke tudke & activist line.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vijayk » 09 Oct 2019 20:31

pankajs wrote:Secret of CONs electoral blunders and that is only increasing by the day ...

https://twitter.com/sadhavi/status/1181819438040895488
Sadhavi Khosla @sadhavi

Ajay Lallu contested Gorakhpur univ election as AISA candidate. Subsequently, he became AISA state secretary. Then congested 2007 assembly election in UP as CPI ML candidate. Then joined @INCIndia in 2011.

Communist takeover of congress is a work in very fast paced progress.

Communist hijacking started becoming visible with UPA-I with the formation of NAC. No wonder CON stand of the last 10-15 years but more after 2014 on all national issues toes the Communist, NGO, Tudke tudke & activist line.


Same thing is going on globally …

US/UK/Canada - Islamists,Militant Gay/Women/Minority groups infiltrating appeasement parties to take over them from inside. I see khalistanis, Hindu/Jew hate groups, anti-white groups all itching for fights, provoking people on identity basis, playing victims 24x7.


These hate groups have also infiltrated academic institutions, media big time. We need to clean up JNU and other media orgaizations from this garbage.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ArjunPandit » 09 Oct 2019 20:38

shehla bibi has quit politics, she's AAA again..would be good for her to go into some IT company and learn some manners about living life respectfully

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 09 Oct 2019 20:51

ArjunPandit wrote:shehla bibi has quit politics, she's AAA again..would be good for her to go into some IT company and learn some manners about living life respectfully


a sedition charge will do that for you.

her previous "collection" of money stunt for the rape victim which she simply latched on to and pocketed must have come back to bite her in the cashmeri butt.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ArjunPandit » 09 Oct 2019 20:54

cash-meri..oops kashmiri politics redefined..with the rot in judiciary, and the presence of useful idiots..she can live happily for next 10 years easily..i find the shah faesal more dangerous...his role as previous IAS and his nefarious activities to travel to turkey harvard gave enough indications of what he's upto...

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby SriKumar » 09 Oct 2019 20:59

Vikas wrote:
SriKumar wrote:LBS does count as a great in my book. He took over after Nehru who died after the China war humiliation. India was in a bad shape due the war and the need to urgently raise new divisions to fight an aggressive CHina- who showed they could come into Assam at will. China threat loomed large at that time. The economy was under severe stress due to the need to build up new divisions facing China (I heard there was food shortages- Miss a meal on Monday' was a slogan). It is to LBS's credit Indian army was built to a point that in 1965 it was able to punch through upto Lahore, Pakistan, while keeping a credible defensive posture against CHina. LBS also took war to the settled Radcliff line after PAkistan crossed the LOC- showing Pakistan clearly that the LOC around Kashmir is an equivalent to our international border part of India. All this in 1.5 years is pretty good.


No PM as much a hawk he/she is can build army in 1 years especially when country was running on empty coffers.
Fortunately our army wasn't decimated in 1962, It was just bad leadership and lack of preparedness.
So to give credit to LBS for building Army is too much. We had some material help from USA which came in around 1962 war. About crossing IB in 1965, India considered Pakis crossing LAC as red line and had to respond back.
I think it is documented that Shastri Ji was reluctant to cross IB.
It wasn't that India had any other option post Ops Grand Slam. We were almost on the verge of losing Akhnoor.
It was the case of Use it or Lose it. Same India did not cross IB during Kargil as India still had few options.
Well, when resources are low, priorities have to be made, and this is what happened And while nothing happens in 1 year, his record speaks for itself. After 1965, Pakistan did not do a military offensive thrust into India. (At Kargil, they held fixed positions and not an offensive thrust).

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby dinesh_kimar » 09 Oct 2019 21:22

^ LBS was a very good choice for India.

- He had to work in Congress with Nehru's men and produce results.
- He did.

- Its well known that he strengthened and carried fwd defence production (Vijayant Tank, L1A1 SLR Rifle, 105 mm gun, 51mm mortar, local ammo, Gnat fighter, etc.)

- He won the 1965 war by showing strong leadership, crossed the border in multiple areas, even faced down China saying that "india wont be deterred by nuclear weapons, will fight for its self respect and rights."

- He started the White revolution, green revolution , CSIR lab expansion, etc.

- He was strong and incorruptible, returning his salary to govt. every month, and spending time in the dark to save electricity , inspiring entire nation. He died in penury, with unpaid loans.

- The hindi language row was not started by him, but apparently inherited from Nehru. He solved the problem by suggesting English as a middle path, which was accepted by the South.

- Very revolutionary leader, had he not died in 1966, would have carried India forward admirably.

Added later

- Though a socialist, wanted unshackled economy and "prosperity for all".

- Started the development of nuclear explosive devices, which trigger a nuclear bomb.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vijayk » 09 Oct 2019 21:34

Karan M wrote:For folks who keep saying NYT, WaPo, NPR etc propaganda doesnt matter, each and every US senator so far who has made these comments on Kashmir has cited one of these rags. We have shown literally no guts in dealing with them.


What can you do about it?

White racist trash masquerading as progressives identified how to sidestep their rabid racism and murderous zeal where they mask half a million deaths due to the wars initiated by them.


For them selling Jews/Hindus is easy to make money and usurp their moral superiority while killing millions in stealth.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nandakumar » 09 Oct 2019 21:51

dinesh_kimar wrote:^ LBS was a very good choice for India.

- He had to work in Congress with Nehru's men and produce results.
- He did.

- Its well known that he strengthened and carried fwd defence production (Vijayant Tank, L1A1 SLR Rifle, 105 mm gun, 51mm mortar, local ammo, Gnat fighter, etc.)

- He won the 1965 war by showing strong leadership, crossed the border in multiple areas, even faced down China saying that "india wont be deterred by nuclear weapons, will fight for its self respect and rights."

- He started the White revolution, green revolution , CSIR lab expansion, etc.

- He was strong and incorruptible, returning his salary to govt. every month, and spending time in the dark to save electricity , inspiring entire nation. He died in penury, with unpaid loans.

- The hindi language row was not started by him, but apparently inherited from Nehru. He solved the problem by suggesting English as a middle path, which was accepted by the South.

- Very revolutionary leader, had he not died in 1966, would have carried India forward admirably.


The hindi language row was not started by him, but apparently inherited from Nehru. He solved the problem by suggesting English as a middle path, which was accepted by the South.
It was there in the Constitution itself. Hindi will be the official language and English will be joint official language for 15 years or words to that effect. LBS had no choice but do what he did in 1965. The rest is history.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 10 Oct 2019 12:25

ArjunPandit wrote:cash-meri..oops kashmiri politics redefined..with the rot in judiciary, and the presence of useful idiots..she can live happily for next 10 years easily..i find the shah faesal more dangerous...his role as previous IAS and his nefarious activities to travel to turkey harvard gave enough indications of what he's upto...


Don't be surprised if shah faesal turns out to be a plant by Intelligence agencies. Cashmere is a game of smoke and mirrors.
There was no reason for him to quit IAS and end up being nobody. He doesn't even has any political background or base to be a force. Kashmir politics has been all about Money and family name. There is hardly anyone in last 40 years who has been a outsider yet successful in Kashmir.
From personal knowledge, I know that agencies do groom interesting profiles and He probably is one of them but ended up with bad timing. Without Govt support, He is another Yogendra Yadav kind of character.
IB is managing Kashmir situation very competently since the days of Gen Sinha. They have everyone in their pocket.
Don't forget everyone and anyone in Kashmir is/was on govt payroll, right from politician like Sheikh Abdullah & Bakshi Ghulam Mohd. to terrorists like Yasin Malik to Bitta Karate. Geelani is the best example of govt paid semi-terrorist.

It may sound contrarian but Terrorism has been a great boon for a complete ecosystem in J&K that feeds on Central govt money, contracts and power.

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Postby chetak » 10 Oct 2019 15:42

ArjunPandit wrote:cash-meri..oops kashmiri politics redefined..with the rot in judiciary, and the presence of useful idiots..she can live happily for next 10 years easily..i find the shah faesal more dangerous...his role as previous IAS and his nefarious activities to travel to turkey harvard gave enough indications of what he's upto...


she has mysteriously found a house in the poshest locality of srinagar, flies everywhere and has no visible means of support or income.

she was given security by the govt and as to what may be the exact threat to her, it is not discernable as she is as kattarpanthi as the most rabid jehadi.

maybe some sporting videos of aunty and shah faesal have surfaced. :mrgreen:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby IndraD » 10 Oct 2019 16:28

how valid are arguments that Shehla & Shah Faesal were Modi govt plants, but either plan C (370 gone) initiated or they went rogue?
a report appeared in alternative media regarding this https://medium.com/@ismailhaniyahgaza/t ... 1e12da27a4

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby kit » 10 Oct 2019 16:48

vijayk wrote:
Karan M wrote:For folks who keep saying NYT, WaPo, NPR etc propaganda doesnt matter, each and every US senator so far who has made these comments on Kashmir has cited one of these rags. We have shown literally no guts in dealing with them.


What can you do about it?

White racist trash masquerading as progressives identified how to sidestep their rabid racism and murderous zeal where they mask half a million deaths due to the wars initiated by them.


For them selling Jews/Hindus is easy to make money and usurp their moral superiority while killing millions in stealth.


Its all about " alternate journalism" ., what do you think Im the dim, the edgy of turkey and the geriatric politician of malaysia are upto.. starting a new front for " Islamic journalism"... taking a leaf out of Russias news "front" on Ukraine and the US

Nowadays there is no news only views of interested parties in newspapers and that becomes the view on TV! ( by EXperts and ANALysts)

Probably India will need to wake up and have its own "views" on newspapers and TV ..and not worry too much about such views., always ready with its facts and figures, and pre empt any ASSumptions by senators ityadi uninformed folk to go and read up on.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Mollick.R » 10 Oct 2019 17:36

What to call it ???
An upcoming full meltdown under pressure ???

or CBM before 11 pin ping visit................

Government clears demo by Huawei for 5G tech

NEW DELHI: Ahead of Chinese president Xi Jinping's visit to India, the government has allowed controversial Chinese telecom equipment maker Huawei to participate in the 5G use case demos during the India Mobile Congress (IMC) that begins in the capital next week (October 14 and October 16). However, the government has not yet taken any final decision on participation of the company in the upcoming wider and broad-based 5G trials that give an opportunity to companies to showcase their technological prowess more effectively.

It is understood that Huawei will present the use cases in partnership with Airtel and Vodafone-Idea, the two telecom operators with which it enjoys very deep relationships. "The company has received permission, and we are hopeful to see demos thatshow us benefits of migrating to a 5G regime," an official source told TOI.

Participation of Huawei in 5G demos is being seen with suspicion, since the government has not yet given any go-ahead to
participation of the company in 5G trails. "It will be incorrect to link this permission to trials. That is a different matter and is being considered separately. No decision has been made on the trials so far," the source said.


When contacted, Huawei expressed happiness at being given a go-ahead for IMC. "We are thankful to the Indian government for its continued trust and support towards Huawei. We believe it is the expectation of the industry that all vendors and 10/10/2019 Government clears demo by Huawei for 5G tech participants should come to this premier show with their latest solutions showcase. This is also the format on which IMC has been designed. We will continue to collectively showcase our leading solutions along with all other participants to make IMC a success," Jay Chen, CEO of Huawei India, said. It is believed that the government has said that all telecom equipment vendors, including Nokia and Ericsson, should share the 5G spectrum with each other. "Industry body COAI will coordinate this sharing, and this should be done without any any discrimination."


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/govt-clears-demo-by-huawei-for-5g-tech/articleshow/71513047.cms

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Mollick.R » 10 Oct 2019 17:43

& suddenly those type of creating relaxation case article has started coming up in media.....................
Yes the cost escalation points are very valid. But as i see the timing very suspicious.........


Indian telcos' capex on 5G will increase if govt bans Huawei: Fitch


If the Indian government does not allow Huawei to build a fifth-generation (5G) network in the country, then Indian telecom operators may have to spend more on 5G infrastructure, US Rating agency Fitch has said in a report.

"We are of the opinion that Indian telcos may need to invest more on 5G capex --especially on the equipment if Huawei were banned to supply 5G equipment in India. Chinese vendors on telecom are generally cheaper and have better technology on 5G than their European peers", Fitch Ratings Director (Asia Pacific) Nitin Soni told IANS in an interview.

The Chinese telecom equipment major got a huge endorsement in the world's hottest mobile market last week with Bharti Airtel promoter Sunil Mittal extending support to Huawei saying the company should be allowed to help build India's 5G networks."My view is they should be in play, I really feel they should be in play," Mittal said on Thursday at the World Economic Forum's India summit. Bharti Airtel is the second largest mobile network provider in India. Mittal went to the extent of saying Huawei products are superior to its European rivals -- Nokia and Ericsson. He said the Chinese firm's equipment is still much more advanced. Huawei has been a leader in developing the next-generation 5G technology, but its recent troubles have allowed rivals like Nokia and Ericsson to narrow the gap.

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Given the current weak financial conditions of Indian telcos owing to the fierce competition unleashed by the Mukesh Ambani-led Reliance Jio through cheap data tariffs and free voice calls, and the sector weighed down by the spectrum auction loans taken for previous biddings, high capital expenditure for 5G would only force Indian firms to pay through their nose and further leverage their balance sheets. Airtel's net profits have shrunk to minimum and Vodafone Idea's losses have been mounting following their merger. India is still planning the setting up of its 5G networks, which is expected to be rolled out by next year. The Department of Telecom is currently working out the spectrum auction timeline which will include 5G auctions for the first time. Before assigning 5G spectrum to telcom operators, a field trial will be conducted wherein service providers will pair up with their chosen network vendors like Samsung, Nokia or Ericsson.

This spectrum is yet to be assigned and there is a lot of speculation whether Huawei will be invited to participate in Indian trials. IT Minister Ravi Shankar Prasad told Parliament in June that Huawei was among six companies that had submitted proposals to participate in the country's 5G trials. He said that a special committee has been appointed to examine potential security concerns. "Huawei, over the last 10 or 12 years, has become extremely good with their product, to a point where I can safely say today their product is significantly superior to Ericsson and Nokia," he had said.

Airtel has been using equipment for its 3G and 4G networks from all three companies, Mittal said.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/indian-telcos-capex-on-5g-will-increase-if-govt-bans-huawei-fitch-119100800146_1.html

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Postby Vips » 10 Oct 2019 19:16

Just management of a trade/political challenge. GOI will use the babudom to indulge in its time killing chai-biskoot sessions.For geo-strategic reasons we will not openly ban the chinese from deploying their 5G technology in India. What will be ultimately done is what we did with Pakis during the second IPL auction. We did not ban the pakistani players but asked the team owners not to bid for any one of the players. Similarly the telecom companies in india will be told not to choose chinese 5G equipment.

Sunil Mittal will need to be given a dosage by GOI before that.

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Postby pankajs » 10 Oct 2019 21:20

Yup ... and Sunil Mittal shouldn't have a problem because all other players too will have to choose from the same truncated field and thus a level playing field in India.

In the other news
https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1182231286926069760
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The biggest twist in Ayodhya case. Muslim intellectuals offer to relinquish Babri claim.

More details by TIMES NOW’s Amir.

1. Can be a delaying tactics. Tempting the court to announce another round of mediation and thus kill the current flow of the case which is rapidly moving towards conclusion.

2. Someone pointed out a while back that a comprehensive victory in favor of the Yindus in this case will lay a strong foundation for all other such claims and open the floodgates. IF one case can be decided on archeological evidence then it will set a precedence for the rest and remove most of the theological, emotional and other arguments for all future cases as having been already adjudicated and dismissed.

Better to surrender now and keep those theological, emotional and other arguments alive to be used next time with the next case.

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Postby Vips » 10 Oct 2019 21:39

Nope the Muslims are indulging in taqqaiya. They want to relinquish Babri Masjid claim but want a commitment/agreement for status quo (as existing on 15th August 1947) of other disputed Proven sites where masjid's were built by destroying temples. Example is Kashi Vishwanath and Gyan Vyapi masjid.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 10 Oct 2019 21:39

vijayk wrote:
Karan M wrote:For folks who keep saying NYT, WaPo, NPR etc propaganda doesnt matter, each and every US senator so far who has made these comments on Kashmir has cited one of these rags. We have shown literally no guts in dealing with them.


What can you do about it?

White racist trash masquerading as progressives identified how to sidestep their rabid racism and murderous zeal where they mask half a million deaths due to the wars initiated by them.


For them selling Jews/Hindus is easy to make money and usurp their moral superiority while killing millions in stealth.


Kick out their journos, rags from India. Ban access, same as done for the ***** sites by issuing notification to ISP. Also, act against significant stakeholders and investors in these Rags, and their parent orgs.

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Postby chetak » 10 Oct 2019 21:52

Vips wrote:Just management of a trade/political challenge. GOI will use the babudom to indulge in its time killing chai-biskoot sessions.For geo-strategic reasons we will not openly ban the chinese from deploying their 5G technology in India. What will be ultimately done is what we did with Pakis during the second IPL auction. We did not ban the pakistani players but asked the team owners not to bid for any one of the players. Similarly the telecom companies in india will be told not to choose chinese 5G equipment.

Sunil Mittal will need to be given a dosage by GOI before that.


some guys would have been paid off.

Its how the hans operate worldwide, especially with a contract as vital as this.

mittal is from a congi family.

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Postby Vips » 10 Oct 2019 23:47

His business is not on a very strong footing right now. Enough dirt can be unearthed about its operations, so can he afford to risk his empire by not heeding to Modi/Shah?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Kaivalya » 11 Oct 2019 00:16

chetak wrote:this is worth watching.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgXVMO5rdHg


Kashmir - The State & The Status by Srinath Raghavan, Manthan Samvaad 2019





Thank you. I dont know about his credentials etc...but appears to just take historian view but innocuously passes judgement ignoring the violence or Kashmiri pandits or the whole notion of jammu ignored for the last 70 years.

He also uses the slippery slope argument of comparing tamilnadu and governorship decisions to pass laws using backdoor mechanisms. In the best case well meaning but not smart - worst case more insidious using partial history

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Lisa » 11 Oct 2019 00:36

Karan M wrote:
vijayk wrote:
What can you do about it?

White racist trash masquerading as progressives identified how to sidestep their rabid racism and murderous zeal where they mask half a million deaths due to the wars initiated by them.


For them selling Jews/Hindus is easy to make money and usurp their moral superiority while killing millions in stealth.


Kick out their journos, rags from India. Ban access, same as done for the ***** sites by issuing notification to ISP. Also, act against significant stakeholders and investors in these Rags, and their parent orgs.


For what its worth,

"India, where BBC News now operates in nine languages, has seen a rise of 20m to 50m to become the top overseas market for BBC News. The USA becomes the third largest market overall with 38m, up 5m. The audience in Kenya has increased from 6m to 15m in the last year reaching 50 percent of the population. In Afghanistan, the BBC reaches 59 percent of the population. BBC News websites (World Service and bbc.com) have increased their combined reach by 6m to 51m globally, bucking wider trends for news sites.

The top 10 countries by BBC News audience are:

India 50m
Nigeria 41m
USA 38m
Kenya 15m
Afghanistan 12m
Bangladesh 12m
Egypt 11m
Iran 11m
Tanzania 10m
Pakistan 9m"

Shut down their channel and consequently their income. They will quickly change their narrative.


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