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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Santosh » 30 Oct 2019 10:02

There is no need to do any of that. Shiv Sena is digging itself into a hole. The Sena MPs don't want to risk another election and will prefer to stay in govt for 5 years. But UT sees this as an opportunity to impose AT on Maha. I am sure lot of core Sena voters either don't like it or are ambivalent. Raut finally said today that Sena doesn't want to do the paap of forming govt with non-ideological partners. ALso it will be against the mandate. Their options are narrowing and their MLAs may be getting restless. UT will have to cave in eventually and Shah will offer him a olive branch to save face.

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Postby Vayutuvan » 30 Oct 2019 10:47

UlanBatori wrote:^+

"SS is PITA" - my chaiwaalla's cushtamar who is a "who is who".

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Postby chetak » 30 Oct 2019 11:21

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hanumadu wrote:I don't get this 50/50 partnership. Wasn't it always the party with the highest seats gets the CM ship? If they were so keen on 50/50, why did SS agree to contest of far fewer seats than BJP? Right there they admitted they are the junior partner. They are just bargaining for some meaty ministries and will probably settle for one or two key ministries.



If I were advising Amit Shah, which I am in no position to advice, I would suggest breaking up Shiv Sena and carry out multiple raids for the criminal offenses and for intimidating Bihari migrant workers.
Bihar elections will be coming up soon.


UT already knows that one of the more probable outcomes of his brinkmanship is an SS split and the defection of large numbers of his cadres to the BJP which is why he is unable to precipitate any crisis.


UT is now bargaining hard for the deputy CM's post and also for more than his share of heavyweight ministries at the state and center.

AT is the mukhota. It is actually UT who wants control. BMC already provides the ready cash for the SS. He now wants control over other parts of the state and also to head off the many more coming debilitating strikes that fadnavis will quickly carry out as follow through to his earlier surgical strikes. Fadnavis has already denuded the pawarful people and the congi goonda gangs of almost all their pawar in the APMC syndicates, sugar mill syndicates as well as the coop banks that form the triumvirate of the rural pawar structure.

UT is looking to replace or duplicate the management style, structure and objectives of the pawarful people. He is eyeing the vacuum created by fadnavis's first term quiet and sustained cleanup of the traditional and entrenched rural politico-economic infrastructure and environment and UT covets the huge benefits potential for disbursing patronage as well as largesse in the hinterland and the consequent opportunities for the SS to grow organically.

There is plenty money in them thar boondocks.

Hobnobbing with the pawarful people, as UT has done of late, may also mean that he has been seriously sounded out about blunting Fadnavis's earlier surgical strikes as well as the yet to materialize follow throughs that will surely come.

Again, some quarters are saying that with the numbers of rebel marathas who jumped ship to the BJP and contested on BJP tickets during the recent elections, the BJP has polled more than 50% of the maratha vote and is no longer seen as an anti maratha party but as a party with a wide pan maharashtra appeal.

Most of the rebel maratha candidates may not have won but the tag of anti maratha has been removed from the BJP.

So, would "little brother" UT be willing to tangle with the BJP for the same vote bank and risk another election. One would think not.

The huge north Indian + non MH state vote bank in urban MH is anyway not with the SS.

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Postby Vikas » 30 Oct 2019 11:40

SS is no push over and then there is that some fragmented voter base from NCP+Cong which may align with SS once these 2 parties end up 6 feet under in Maha.
So why not start acting like a true opposition party and occupy the space. Who knows we will end up with Saffron V/s deep shade of saffron in Maha.
The only problem is that Political parties in India tend to take of green while chasing that 'Never-to-be-found' Votebank.

I don't think SS can go with NCP+Cong simply because that may excite Congoon voters (they don't care who the party aligns with), but would push core SS voters away for good.
Unlike the casteist parties in UP/Bihar or dominant ones in TN/WB/J&K whose sole purpose is to get into power by hook or crook, Ideology still plays part for SS.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 30 Oct 2019 12:11

Vikas wrote:SS is no push over and then there is that some fragmented voter base from NCP+Cong which may align with SS once these 2 parties end up 6 feet under in Maha.
So why not start acting like a true opposition party and occupy the space. Who knows we will end up with Saffron V/s deep shade of saffron in Maha.
The only problem is that Political parties in India tend to take of green while chasing that 'Never-to-be-found' Votebank.

I don't think SS can go with NCP+Cong simply because that may excite Congoon voters (they don't care who the party aligns with), but would push core SS voters away for good.
Unlike the casteist parties in UP/Bihar or dominant ones in TN/WB/J&K whose sole purpose is to get into power by hook or crook, Ideology still plays part for SS.


The limited options of the pawarful people are open for all to see.

The once stealthily whispered about cross border linkages have now spilled out into the open with the documentary proof.

This is sedition and plain treason by top management. Modi himself has spoken about it in the run up to the recent MH elections.

the padma award was an olive branch that was proferred by the BJP.

It doesn't seem to have worked so the BJP has moved to option two : the sword strike.

We don't know yet as to which of the 3 swords of Shivaji Maharaj has been unsheathed now, the Bhawani, the Tulja or the Jagdamba.

The SS maybe only a bit player in this drama.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshhan » 30 Oct 2019 12:28

This is a classic negotiating tactic used by Shiv Sena. CM post will never be given to them. However using CMship as pretext they want heavy ministries. Now BJP should never give them ministries such as Water resources and Irrigation, PWD etc. These are the ministries that create a direct impact on people and also give the perception of development happening(or not happening). Home ministry will anyways be under the BJP CM himself. Maybe BJP can give Finance ministry in addition deputy CM post to Shiv sena.

One thing is pretty clear. Development is the priority for BJP and not Shiv Sena. Their priority is corruption and making money as far as participating in this govt is concerned. BMC itself is a stellar example of Shiv Sena's corruption and incompetence.

In some cases Shiv Sena is worse than even NCP. NCP atleast worked for their strongholds like Baramati and satara. Their work is visible there. Shiv Sena couldn't do anything for Mumbai also. Whatever work is happening in Mumbai is now due to efforts of Fadnavis and earlier Gadkari.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 30 Oct 2019 12:31

KJo wrote:
syam wrote:In next 5 years, things might change drastically. Shivsena might survive it and also thakarey III will get 5 years cm experience. Really want to see how that will turn out.


I think it was a mistake to go into an alliance without working out who gets what if you win. Now it's back to fighting and UT making taunts about the economy. I now feel maybe BJP should have gone into the elections alone like last time and then looked for partners based on the result. In hindsight tying up with SS seems like a bad idea.

Yes things will change drastically for the Shivsena when it ties up with NCP+CON. Does anyone believe that the NCP+CON will not force some sort of pro-muslim policies on such a government?

If my thinking serves me right, SS main calling card was being right of the "right wing" BJP. Where will these "right of the BJP" carder and voter take shelter hainji? Simple arithmetic and logic simply does not work when it comes to people else the economist would be the richest people in the world as a group! And their not being the richest should tell us something.

Hindsight is 20:20 and BJP top brass know more about the ground situation than we do. There is a churn happening in Maharashtra and BJP decided to pool resources with SS to take on the combined might of NCP and CON. Let us not forget, last election everyone fought independently. BJP may not have wanted to risk taking on NCP+CON alone. These little facts make a lot of difference in strategy.

SS nuisance value was in full flow all through the last term too. Nothing new in that except a more aggressive posturing now.

BTW, Dy CM is not constitutional role and has no power except what is delegated to it by the CM/Cabinet. The real fight is for what is perceived to the the juicy departments.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 30 Oct 2019 14:24

Bottom line, NCP/Cong should not even be seen breathing anywhere near Mantralya.
That SS will remain a pesky partner is given, especially now that T-clan member is a MLA, so scoring brownie points is given.
Sivaji did not build his kingdom with couple of victories. It took monumental effort to get Malech out of ruling south of Narmada.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 30 Oct 2019 14:25

pankajs wrote:
KJo wrote:
I think it was a mistake to go into an alliance without working out who gets what if you win. Now it's back to fighting and UT making taunts about the economy. I now feel maybe BJP should have gone into the elections alone like last time and then looked for partners based on the result. In hindsight tying up with SS seems like a bad idea.

Yes things will change drastically for the Shivsena when it ties up with NCP+CON. Does anyone believe that the NCP+CON will not force some sort of pro-muslim policies on such a government?

If my thinking serves me right, SS main calling card was being right of the "right wing" BJP. Where will these "right of the BJP" carder and voter take shelter hainji? Simple arithmetic and logic simply does not work when it comes to people else the economist would be the richest people in the world as a group! And their not being the richest should tell us something.

Hindsight is 20:20 and BJP top brass know more about the ground situation than we do. There is a churn happening in Maharashtra and BJP decided to pool resources with SS to take on the combined might of NCP and CON. Let us not forget, last election everyone fought independently. BJP may not have wanted to risk taking on NCP+CON alone. These little facts make a lot of difference in strategy.

SS nuisance value was in full flow all through the last term too. Nothing new in that except a more aggressive posturing now.

BTW, Dy CM is not constitutional role and has no power except what is delegated to it by the CM/Cabinet. The real fight is for what is perceived to the the juicy departments.


this is footpath politics of the SS being played out in the open.

Whatever demands for power sharing were raised by the SS would have been dismissed out of hand by the BJP and not having the testicular fortitude to go it alone, the SS backed off.

Now, they see an opportunity to insult, embarrass, humiliate and demean the BJP and its leadership and they are going for it.

Neither fadnavis nor AS is given to lying, unlike the SS leadership, so the SS tried to portray both of them as liars and after keeping quiet for many days, fadnavis spoke out yesterday in unmistakable terms.

SS has already seriously damaged itself in this entire sorry episode by its unscrupulous and unprincipled naked play for dominant political power, without the numbers or the mandate, using some unverifiable and mythical promise made by someone to his father is seen as exploitative of the hard work, effective delivery and the dedicated efforts made by the BJP and its dedicated cadres under fadnavis.

If such a promise had indeed been made to the father, it ought to have been articulated in the full glare of the light from the funeral pyre and that would have carried not only tremendous weight with the cadres and voters but also rock solid credibility with the emotional marathas and quite possibly, they would have already got their SS CM a long time ago.

I hope that the SS does not obtain power by aligning with some predatory parties in the same way as jinnah did and got his "moth eaten pakiland" and 70 odd years later, the unmistakable results of that ill advised power grab are there for the entire world to see.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 30 Oct 2019 15:59

https://theprint.in/politics/shiv-sena- ... vt/313019/
Shiv Sena could ‘split and 24 MLAs join BJP’ if Uddhav Thackeray decides not to join govt
The Shiv Sena MLAs are angry as they are well aware that their chief will have to back down from his stand and support the BJP to form the government. The key to power lies in the hands of Thackeray, a fact he is well aware of.

“Why take such a grandiose stand when Uddhavji himself knows that ultimately we have to go with the BJP,” a senior Shiv Sena leader who was a minister in the previous government told ThePrint. “If Uddhavji decides to stay out of power, at least 24 MLAs will join the BJP. We are not in the mood to sit in Opposition.”

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The Shiv Sena will not accept anything less than the 50:50 formula,” Raote told the media after his meeting with the Governor. “We want it in writing from the BJP that they will give the Shiv Sena the CM’s post after two-and-a-half years.”

Speaking to ThePrint, writer and political commentator Prakash Akolkar said, “This is payback time for Uddhav. He has realised that the BJP cannot form a government without his party. He is paying the BJP back for all the humiliation they have heaped on him in the last five years.”

The Shiv Sena MLAs want power. So Uddhav will have to choose power. If he does not, the Shiv Sena will split,” added Akolkar, whose book Jai Maharashtra is a biography on the Shiv Sena.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby abhijitm » 30 Oct 2019 16:07

Vikas wrote:Bottom line, NCP/Cong should not even be seen breathing anywhere near Mantralya.
That SS will remain a pesky partner is given, especially now that T-clan member is a MLA, so scoring brownie points is given.
Sivaji did not build his kingdom with couple of victories. It took monumental effort to get Malech out of ruling south of Narmada.

Entire good work of DF and Nitin Gadkari will be undone if NCP/Cong gets backdoor entry to power through SS. Doomsday scenario for common man.

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Postby Kashi » 30 Oct 2019 16:17

abhijitm wrote:Entire good work of DF and Nitin Gadkari will be undone if NCP/Cong gets backdoor entry to power through SS. Doomsday scenario for common man.


Clearly the common man did not seem to be concerned when voting.

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Postby chetak » 30 Oct 2019 18:29

looks like white vaisty poked the wrong bear when he was the MHA boss.


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Postby abhijitm » 30 Oct 2019 18:53

Kashi wrote:
abhijitm wrote:Entire good work of DF and Nitin Gadkari will be undone if NCP/Cong gets backdoor entry to power through SS. Doomsday scenario for common man.


Clearly the common man did not seem to be concerned when voting.

Common man has given a clear verdict to both to run the government together.

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Postby Kashi » 30 Oct 2019 19:05

abhijitm wrote:Common man has given a clear verdict to both to run the government together.


Not as emphatically as they did in GE2019. Albeit SS fared far worse than they anticipated. Common folks chose to vote for BJP rebels instead of SS in many places.

I would say that the common folk are not to enamoured with the idea of SS being a player in the government.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby abhijitm » 30 Oct 2019 19:19

ramana wrote:
hanumadu wrote:I don't get this 50/50 partnership. Wasn't it always the party with the highest seats gets the CM ship? If they were so keen on 50/50, why did SS agree to contest of far fewer seats than BJP? Right there they admitted they are the junior partner. They are just bargaining for some meaty ministries and will probably settle for one or two key ministries.



If I were advising Amit Shah, which I am in no position to advice, I would suggest breaking up Shiv Sena and carry out multiple raids for the criminal offenses and for intimidating Bihari migrant workers.
Bihar elections will be coming up soon.

BJP did try to go separate way in 2014 assembly election and then again tried in 2017 BMC election. Both time SS retained its vote base. As assumed earlier that majority hindu votes will get automatically transferred to BJP if forced to choose, that did not happen. Both time with or without alliance SS kept their tally almost the same. Hence I said earlier the division of voters between BJP and SS is already done over last decade. There will not be major switch in votes between all four parties now. And that's why BJP needs to grow inorganically by poaching leaders who can bring votes and local businesses with them. They tried before the election but without much success. But as of now I don't see other way of BJP growth in MH, unless they produce a very tall leader lik NM who can command the respect pan MH.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 30 Oct 2019 19:35

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 30 Oct 2019 20:58

This "iyer/brahmin sambar powder" nonsense was first started recently by another rabid naxal, nandini sundar, (siddarth vardarajan's wife), a Delhi School of Economics "professor" whose salary is paid from the Indian tax payer's money.

this is what the south Indian mami, nandini had to say, and to rage about sambar powder, of all things.

N S @nandinisundar

This product should be banned for promoting casteism. If there was a will there are laws. But this country is now openly casteist and communal


BTW, this is an unstoppable knee jerk and anti Hindu reflex by this pissful naxal saba naqvi whose hatred of the Hindu community is her defining and only feature.

Incidentally, Eastern also makes and sells this beef curry masala mix.

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Should we now boycott eastern because of this :mrgreen:

their overarching Hindu hatred always shines through, no matter how sickular they claim to be.




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2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Peregrine » 30 Oct 2019 21:45

Necessary for Shiv Sena to stay in BJP-led alliance: Sanjay Raut – PTI

HIGHLIGHTS

- The Uddhav Thackeray-led party has been aggressively pushing for rotational chief ministership and 50:50 powersharing formula, demands rejected by the BJP

- "Individuals are not important but state's interest is important. Decisions need to be taken in a calm manner and keeping in mind the state's interest," the Rajya Sabha MP said


MUMBAI: In an apparent softening of stand, Shiv Sena leader Sanjay Raut on Wednesday said it is necessary for the party to stay in the BJP-led alliance in the larger interest of Maharashtra, but without compromising on "respect".

He said there was no hurry to form the next government and rejected speculation that the Shiv Sena may split if there was a delay in formation of the new Council of
Ministers.

Talking to reporters, Raut said it is necessary for the Sena to remain in the saffron alliance in the interest of the state, but added that "respect" is also important.

"Individuals are not important but state's interest is important. Decisions need to be taken in a calm manner and keeping in mind the state's interest," the Rajya Sabha MP said.

The Uddhav Thackeray-led party has been aggressively pushing for rotational chief ministership and 50:50 power- sharing formula, demands rejected by the BJP.

Raut said his party only wants implementation of what was decided between the two allies before the October 21 assembly polls.

To a question on whether the Shiv Sena was adamant on implementing the 50:50 formula (equal share in power), Raut said, "You (the media) are saying this. We only want things to be done according to what has been decided earlier."

He said there was no question of any newly-elected Sena MLA leaving the party due to delay in government formation.

"No newly-elected MLA from any party will split. There was no question of this happening with Shiv Sena MLAs," Raut asserted.

About re-election of Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis as leader of the BJP legislature party, Raut said, "Those who have support of 145 MLAs (in a house of 288) will be the chief minister and it is duty to welcome him."

Asked about reports that the BJP has offered deputy chief minister's post and 13 portfolios to the Sena, Raut evaded a direct reply and said "We are not sitting with account books."

Raut, the executive editor of Sena mouthpiece 'Saamana', has been vociferously articulating the party's demands for equal share in power and the chief minister's post on a rotational basis.

On Tuesday, Raut had even talked of his party looking at "alternatives" if its key demands were not accepted by the BJP.

"We believe in the alliance (with BJP) as we contested the polls jointly. But the BJP should not compel us to commit the sin of looking for an alternative for government formation," Raut had said.

The BJP has been insisting that Fadnavis will remain the chief minister for thenext five years.

The BJP won 105 assembly seats, while the Sena bagged 56 in the 288-member house.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby SBajwa » 30 Oct 2019 23:01

kit wrote:
Gyan wrote:
Chinese Industry is all State protected, gets free capital, cheap electricity & subsidised logistics plus back stop from domestic market. No one can beat them without imposing minimum customs duty of 40% to 80%


Nothing can be free for long. Its not a viable long term economic model. , is it?

By extension how long can China subsidize an economic growth on the back of supported enterprises and how can they be a part of FTAs if they continue to do so?

Western capitalism had benefitted from exporting their entire manufacturing to China., and "capitalism" itself is on the way to oblivion the way it was. Markets are not free any more there must be a cost to access it and here is where India should play it right. Does being a part of FTA beneficial or not, some hard checks need to be done., and done right.



nope! sir ji!! Western Countries only exported the machinery for consumer goods and not capital goods. Consumer goods like shirts, shoes, furniture, toys, glassware, etc. The reason is that robots are still expensive than dirt cheap labor in many countries. Sooner or later all of these consumer goods will be back to their original place with robots manufacturing them. So!!! days of the human labor are going away fast and people who evolve to learn new technology will survive while labor unions,commies, etc will die! the sooner it happens the better it will be. Already the jobs of cashier, tellers, customer services are going extinct as more and more people are doing the work electronically.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 31 Oct 2019 00:12

Sena better be careful and not wait long.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 31 Oct 2019 00:22

Had a long time in the making ... Had advised family and friends who would listen around the time Aadhar case was in the SC. My guess then was about 10 years for all India coverage.

https://twitter.com/monikahalan/status/ ... 3850385408
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If the government has the courage to link @UIDAI with real estate ownership, expect prices to stay tepid. This is good news for real buyers and investors as it deals a hard blow to black money in real estate deals. My column in @livemint

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby la.khan » 31 Oct 2019 08:54

pankajs wrote:Had a long time in the making ... Had advised family and friends who would listen around the time Aadhar case was in the SC. My guess then was about 10 years for all India coverage.

https://twitter.com/monikahalan/status/ ... 3850385408
Monika Halan @monikahalan

If the government has the courage to link @UIDAI with real estate ownership, expect prices to stay tepid. This is good news for real buyers and investors as it deals a hard blow to black money in real estate deals. My column in @livemint

:-? I thought Aadhar was already mandatory for real estate transactions. This is from personal experience. I was involved in some real estate transactions a few years back, in the newly minted Telangana state. For registrations, buyer(s) & seller(s) must have mobile no., PAN, and Aadhar card. No exceptions. The sale deed listed the buyer(s) info & seller(s)info (address, mobile no., PAN, and Aadhar card). No exceptions.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Kaivalya » 31 Oct 2019 09:31

la.khan wrote:
pankajs wrote:Had a long time in the making ... Had advised family and friends who would listen around the time Aadhar case was in the SC. My guess then was about 10 years for all India coverage.

https://twitter.com/monikahalan/status/ ... 3850385408

:-? I thought Aadhar was already mandatory for real estate transactions. This is from personal experience. I was involved in some real estate transactions a few years back, in the newly minted Telangana state. For registrations, buyer(s) & seller(s) must have mobile no., PAN, and Aadhar card. No exceptions. The sale deed listed the buyer(s) info & seller(s)info (address, mobile no., PAN, and Aadhar card). No exceptions.


True - everything is provided in triplicate. But I am not sure the data gets converted and used somehow to weed out or flag Benami transactions. I heard about some big data setup to figure out people who had high deposits, that could not be correlated to their income etc. suddenly after demo Never heard about that capability or updates on it again.

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Postby SaraLax » 31 Oct 2019 10:31

pankajs wrote:Had a long time in the making ... Had advised family and friends who would listen around the time Aadhar case was in the SC. My guess then was about 10 years for all India coverage.

https://twitter.com/monikahalan/status/ ... 3850385408
Monika Halan @monikahalan

If the government has the courage to link @UIDAI with real estate ownership, expect prices to stay tepid. This is good news for real buyers and investors as it deals a hard blow to black money in real estate deals. My column in @livemint


A person in my locality recently sold his land and is using the proceeds to build a new home at a different place using a small construction company. I think tying up Aadhar to Real Estate ownership cannot root out black money in 2 crore or less type purchase transactions. I still see that bundles of 2K notes (black money - i.e portion of the purchase transaction which constitutes the amount greater than the guideline value) are passing from buyer of a land to its seller. This happens even when a loan is being taken in a bank by the buyer to fund the purchase. They disburse the amount to multiple other bank accounts & then take out 1.5 Lakhs every day for a week or so from each of those accounts. This indicated person then moved the amount to the construction company in same fashion. People surrounding him know that the black money transaction is indeed happening ... in fact the bank manager also knows about it - but the person (with no known contacts at govt or bureaucracy levels) is confident that he won't get caught. Maybe a demonetization of 2K notes will help to reduce these type of black money transactions a bit more. Maybe reducing land registration costs will reduce these black money transactions.

Out-Of-Topic. In TN I was suprised to see that even in the electric crematoriums - a family needs to provide the Aadhar card of the deceased & a doctor's certificate indicating the reason for death before the body can be cremated. I asked for the reason ... but the person monitoring the crematorium was clueless ... maybe the government will disable the usage of that Aadhar number across the entire Aadhar based eco-system.

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How does one survive in todays Bharat without a mobile phone ?

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pankajs wrote:Had a long time in the making ... Had advised family and friends who would listen around the time Aadhar case was in the SC. My guess then was about 10 years for all India coverage.

https://twitter.com/monikahalan/status/ ... 3850385408


A person in my locality recently sold his land and is using the proceeds to build a new home at a different place using a small construction company. I think tying up Aadhar to Real Estate ownership cannot root out black money in 2 crore or less type purchase transactions. I still see that bundles of 2K notes (black money - i.e portion of the purchase transaction which constitutes the amount greater than the guideline value) are passing from buyer of a land to its seller. This happens even when a loan is being taken in a bank by the buyer to fund the purchase. They disburse the amount to multiple other bank accounts & then take out 1.5 Lakhs every day for a week or so from each of those accounts. This indicated person then moved the amount to the construction company in same fashion. People surrounding him know that the black money transaction is indeed happening ... in fact the bank manager also knows about it - but the person (with no known contacts at govt or bureaucracy levels) is confident that he won't get caught. Maybe a demonetization of 2K notes will help to reduce these type of black money transactions a bit more. Maybe reducing land registration costs will reduce these black money transactions.

Out-Of-Topic. In TN I was suprised to see that even in the electric crematoriums - a family needs to provide the Aadhar card of the deceased & a doctor's certificate indicating the reason for death before the body can be cremated. I asked for the reason ... but the person monitoring the crematorium was clueless ... maybe the government will disable the usage of that Aadhar number across the entire Aadhar based eco-system.


the deceased person's aadhar card may be deactivated to prevent identity theft and misuse by unscrupulous people to draw benefits on the deceased persons' name.

to successfully break any law in India, two colluding people are needed and have to be involved simultaneously.

The person breaking the law and the person involved in enforcing the law.

Haven't all bank scams that have happened in India so far followed this very methodology.

ditto for ration scams and a whole lot of other scams, MNREGA included.

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Vikas wrote:How does one survive in todays Bharat without a mobile phone ?


By becoming a Naga sadhu.


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A_Gupta saar,

Darshan ji may have meant Nanga sadhu onlee.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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this is the exact problem with the SS.

long on rhetoric and short on delivery

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Sanjay Raut, Shiv Sena: Maharashtra ki kundali to hum hi banayenge. Kundali mein kaunsa greh kahan rakhna hai aur kaunse taare zameen pe utaarne hain, kis taare ko chamak dena hai, itni taakat aaj bhi Shiv Sena ke paas hai.

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chetak wrote:this is the exact problem with the SS.

long on rhetoric and short on delivery

twitter

Sanjay Raut, Shiv Sena: Maharashtra ki kundali to hum hi banayenge. Kundali mein kaunsa greh kahan rakhna hai aur kaunse taare zameen pe utaarne hain, kis taare ko chamak dena hai, itni taakat aaj bhi Shiv Sena ke paas hai.


SS is trying to stay relevant in the times of Modi and DF. What exactly does current SS stand for, no one knows.

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Vikas wrote:
chetak wrote:this is the exact problem with the SS.

long on rhetoric and short on delivery

twitter



SS is trying to stay relevant in the times of Modi and DF. What exactly does current SS stand for, no one knows.




just look at that deluded and faux grandiose statement.

they are legends in their own empty minds.

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Sanjay Raut's job is to talk big, a la Gafoora. They act and talk as if they would have swept Maha but for DF and BJP.
The third generation rule is going to strike SS too in next 5-10 years. Meanwhile space vacated by NCP will be slowly occupied by BJP (& SS). In the game of politics, One election cycle is too short a time.

Where is Raj T these days ? He hasn't spoken since elections.

Yeah!! They are household names in their own house only.

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la.khan wrote:
pankajs wrote:Had a long time in the making ... Had advised family and friends who would listen around the time Aadhar case was in the SC. My guess then was about 10 years for all India coverage.

https://twitter.com/monikahalan/status/ ... 3850385408

:-? I thought Aadhar was already mandatory for real estate transactions. This is from personal experience. I was involved in some real estate transactions a few years back, in the newly minted Telangana state. For registrations, buyer(s) & seller(s) must have mobile no., PAN, and Aadhar card. No exceptions. The sale deed listed the buyer(s) info & seller(s)info (address, mobile no., PAN, and Aadhar card). No exceptions.

Same end goal BUT two different paths, the difference implicit in the words "transaction" vs "ownership" AAdhar update.

AAdhar via transaction will take a while to update all land records and in some inter-generational transfers will only enter the records once in a generation or two.

The current proposal will force the updation within a specific period as determined by the government. When the notification is issued for a City/Town/Kasba/Village all land records have to be linked to the owners AAdhar pronto.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 31 Oct 2019 16:39

^^
Add to this is another project that is being rolled out. Both together will ensure a water tight land acquisition and disposal framework for public and private entities and safety of titles. Also deal with squatters and land scam artists like our Robber shri.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/10/ ... p-country/
India is using hundreds of drones to map the country in incredible detail
One of the first areas being surveyed is the Ganges river basin, which is being mapped with an accuracy of 10 cm, according to Professor Ashutosh Sharma of India’s Department of Science & Technology.

A fleet of 300 drones is being gathered to capture aerial footage, which will be combined with other data sources and then converted into highly detailed maps using artificial intelligence.

“Even today we don't have a digital map of India of sufficient accuracy,” Professor Sharma told the Times of India. “But this is [going to be] the basis for everything... whether we have to lay down train tracks, lay a road, put up a hospital ... or any kind of development and planning.”

The new maps will have a scale of 1:500, meaning 1 cm will represent 5 metres on the ground. Mapping remote towns and villages in this detail will give local authorities accurate data relating to land ownership. In some cases, it is believed this will enable citizens to have verified land-ownership claims leading to the issuance of property titles for the first time.

Between now and 2021, the Indian project – which also brings together data from multiple sources – will map 75% of the country. The initial focus areas will be those that are populated – regions that are mostly forest or desert, for example, may be excluded from the exercise.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 31 Oct 2019 16:50

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1189443854400815104
ANI @ANI

Karnataka Chief Minister, BS Yediyurappa: About Tipu Jayanti, we are going to drop everything and we are also thinking to drop everything in the textbooks about him.

Something is very wrong about this statement. BJP still does not get it or at least Yediyurappa doesn't. Guess what is wrong. Leaving it open. Will put down my thoughts later.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 31 Oct 2019 17:05

there are some of the ministeries capable of generating the max amount of scandals and corruption cases.

agriculture is another one.


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Maharashtra BJP and @Dev_Fadnavis has clarified that talks there will be no talks on CM CHAIR,HOME, FINANCE, REVENUE and URBAN DEVELOPMENT with Shiv Sena. Witnessing very aggressive BJP and not allow bully sena to dictate terms.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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Remember this?
The entire boggie of Maharashtra politicians against EVM have gone into hiding.



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