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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby UlanBatori » 31 Oct 2019 18:24

we are also thinking to drop everything in the textbooks about him

The info can be out there outside textbooks. If you cram textbooks full of the atrocities committed by genocidal petty thieves there would be no pages left and students would get hernia from carrying their bookbags.

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Postby UlanBatori » 31 Oct 2019 19:39

Don't know where else to post this but it is important.
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Postby KJo » 31 Oct 2019 21:14

UlanBatori wrote:
we are also thinking to drop everything in the textbooks about him

The info can be out there outside textbooks. If you cram textbooks full of the atrocities committed by genocidal petty thieves there would be no pages left and students would get hernia from carrying their bookbags.


I am from Tippu land, and in social studies we had a chapter called "The Tiger of Mysore". It was a pretty dry read about Tippu's wars with the British. The fact is Tippu Sultan did exist and one cannot just wish him away. The only real problem was a very "secular" treatment given to Islamic rulers. We had 1 chapter each for each of the "great" Mughals. The entire Wodeyar dynasty which is the local kingdom just got 1 chapter in 9th Std. Incidentally the grandson of the last Maharaja was my classmate that year.

This needs to be fixed. Not removing Tippu completely. Now it will be a delicate balancing act about what to say about him.
Overall, I think we need to focus more on the local dynasties like Mauryas, Gangas, Cholas, Pandyas, Marathas, and include the Mughals, Tughlaks, Bahmanis etc without putting the latter on a pedestal.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby IndraD » 31 Oct 2019 21:16

MH inching towards minority govt ?
Sanjay Raut meets Pawar, speculations mount .

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 31 Oct 2019 21:29

IndraD wrote:MH inching towards minority govt ?
Sanjay Raut meets Pawar, speculations mount .


as per TV news, pawar says that no meeting took place.

the tv reporter said that this means that pawar is signalling that he is not yet ready to deal with the situation of the SS and is still in a wait and watch mode onlee.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 31 Oct 2019 21:35

KJo wrote:This needs to be fixed. Not removing Tippu completely. Now it will be a delicate balancing act about what to say about him.

History is quite okay, if the truth is put up in its entirety. In fact that would be pretty close to what the Horrible Histories of books does. History has been horrible and it is better to keep it that way. What is happening in "secular" India is the white-washing of certain gangs of kings and totally obliterating some part of history. In case of Tipu Sultan; fine put up a few pages on him. But clearly say that he was an Islamic bigot who showed religion sanctioned hatred to Kodavas, and the Hindus of what is today modern Northern Kerala. Add his excellent treatment of Christians from Mengaluru coast for better effect. Sooner or later the peacefools themselves will ask for the chapter to be dropped.

The history taught in our schools is so pathetic. I came to know about the true Tipu Sultan after reading a book Malabar Manual by a Scott; William Logan. Though I often wondered how many dogs in KL had the name of Tipu.

Meanwhile in MH.
Maharashtra Govt Formation Live: Shiv Sena's Sanjay Raut meets NCP Chief Sharad Pawar

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 31 Oct 2019 21:38

KJo wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:The info can be out there outside textbooks. If you cram textbooks full of the atrocities committed by genocidal petty thieves there would be no pages left and students would get hernia from carrying their bookbags.


I am from Tippu land, and in social studies we had a chapter called "The Tiger of Mysore". It was a pretty dry read about Tippu's wars with the British. The fact is Tippu Sultan did exist and one cannot just wish him away. The only real problem was a very "secular" treatment given to Islamic rulers. We had 1 chapter each for each of the "great" Mughals. The entire Wodeyar dynasty which is the local kingdom just got 1 chapter in 9th Std. Incidentally the grandson of the last Maharaja was my classmate that year.

This needs to be fixed. Not removing Tippu completely. Now it will be a delicate balancing act about what to say about him.
Overall, I think we need to focus more on the local dynasties like Mauryas, Gangas, Cholas, Pandyas, Marathas, and include the Mughals, Tughlaks, Bahmanis etc without putting the latter on a pedestal.


the pakis had three warships named PNS Tippu Sultan.

the pakis name their ships and missiles after ghazis, meaning that the name tipu sultan has no legitimate place in independent India.

How can an anti Hindu jehadi icon in paki land become an icon in independent India simultaneously.

per wiki

PNS Tippu Sultan may refer to one of the following ships of the Pakistan Navy:

PNS Tippu Sultan (D49), the former British O-class destroyer HMS Onslow (G17); acquired by the Pakistan Navy in 1949; served until 1979

PNS Tippu Sultan (D168), the former American Gearing-class destroyer USS Damato (DD-871) launched in 1945; acquired by the Pakistan Navy in 1980; scrapped in 1994

PNS Tippu Sultan (1994), the former British Type 21 frigate HMS Avenger (F185); acquired by the Pakistan Navy in 1994; active in Pakistan Navy as of 2009

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 31 Oct 2019 23:21

Sachin wrote:
KJo wrote:This needs to be fixed. Not removing Tippu completely. Now it will be a delicate balancing act about what to say about him.

History is quite okay, if the truth is put up in its entirety. In fact that would be pretty close to what the Horrible Histories of books does. History has been horrible and it is better to keep it that way. What is happening in "secular" India is the white-washing of certain gangs of kings and totally obliterating some part of history. In case of Tipu Sultan; fine put up a few pages on him. But clearly say that he was an Islamic bigot who showed religion sanctioned hatred to Kodavas, and the Hindus of what is today modern Northern Kerala. Add his excellent treatment of Christians from Mengaluru coast for better effect. Sooner or later the peacefools themselves will ask for the chapter to be dropped.

The history taught in our schools is so pathetic. I came to know about the true Tipu Sultan after reading a book Malabar Manual by a Scott; William Logan. Though I often wondered how many dogs in KL had the name of Tipu.

Meanwhile in MH.
[b]Maharashtra Govt Formation Live: Shiv Sena's Sanjay Raut meets NCP Chief Sharad Pawar

Is this deliberate ploy from Namo-Shahmo to ignore the SS shenanigans and let them dig a bigger hole so as to bury them once and for all. :wink:
Otherwise why this wait to stake claim, if SS want to form government with NCP/Cong probably will be the last nail in the 'Marathi Manus' coffin

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 31 Oct 2019 23:22

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1189443854400815104
ANI @ANI

Karnataka Chief Minister, BS Yediyurappa: About Tipu Jayanti, we are going to drop everything and we are also thinking to drop everything in the textbooks about him.

Something is very wrong about this statement. BJP still does not get it or at least Yediyurappa doesn't. Guess what is wrong. Leaving it open. Will put down my thoughts later.

My thoughts but much better articulation than I could ..
https://twitter.com/vikramsampath/statu ... 4023404544
Vikram Sampath @vikramsampath

The ideal thing wouldn't be to drop #TipuSultan from textbooks (you can't wish away your history, can you?), But presenting his true picture including his bigotry that's always been whitewashed. This lopsided view of history no better than Congress style glorification of TS.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 31 Oct 2019 23:26

Rsatchi wrote:Meanwhile in MH.
[b]Maharashtra Govt Formation Live: Shiv Sena's Sanjay Raut meets NCP Chief Sharad Pawar
Is this deliberate ploy from Namo-Shahmo to ignore the SS shenanigans and let them dig a bigger hole so as to bury them once and for all. :wink:
Otherwise why this wait to stake claim, if SS want to form government with NCP/Cong probably will be the last nail in the 'Marathi Manus' coffin

No matter what the outcome, SS with this latest antic, has given Modi/Shah duo the incentive to untangle BJP from SS for the future.

While it might be amusing for the Media and the SS workers I am sure that the duo is not amused. Theek hai.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 31 Oct 2019 23:46

this is starting to ignite on news channels

seems to have happened some time in may, or around the time of the elections.

no explanation as to why these kooky human rights "activists" and other naxals, otherwise so very abusive and vocal about the govt, just chose to keep quiet till now even after they were informed in may itself by some canadian group who were alerted by WhatsApp management at the time of the alleged phone hacking using some israeli spyware named Pegasus for surveillance.


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WhatsApp in a startling revelation says journalists and human rights activists in India have been targets of surveillance by operators using Israeli spyware Pegasus

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 01 Nov 2019 01:14

Some realization happening in KyaNada on immigration ... lets see how far it goes.

https://twitter.com/miss9afi/status/1189604536337473537
Ensaf Haidar @miss9afi

Immigrants who want to settle in Quebec will soon be required to pass a values test, they will have to prove they’ve learned "democratic values & Quebec values!

When Canada wakes up and follows Quebec!

Bravo Quebec premier @francoislegault

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby UlanBatori » 01 Nov 2019 02:56

While Pappustan have attacked the GOI for failure to protect them from Israeli snooping, the other possibility seems to have evaded their einsteinian brains.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nachiket » 01 Nov 2019 03:18

chetak wrote:
IndraD wrote:MH inching towards minority govt ?
Sanjay Raut meets Pawar, speculations mount .


as per TV news, pawar says that no meeting took place.

the tv reporter said that this means that pawar is signalling that he is not yet ready to deal with the situation of the SS and is still in a wait and watch mode onlee.

Whenever Pawar denies anything. It is a safe bet to assume it happened. :P

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 01 Nov 2019 11:54

https://www.news18.com/news/world/no-fe ... 69607.html
And this now
so something definitely been cooked up in that meeting
I wonder what is holding BJP back now!!
NCP-D gang connection needs to be highlighted but I suppose the media will start calling sore loser especially liberandus

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 01 Nov 2019 12:15

History texts in India will never call someone out for his/her bigotry and religious persecution.
FWIW, GOI and state govts don't want to get into this swamp of horror that was inflicted on mostly Hindus by Jehadis and Crusaders.
Forever we read about battle between Akbar-the-Great and some random Guy called Hemu. No one would ever know about full name, background or religion or prowess of Hemu.

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Vikas wrote:History texts in India will never call someone out for his/her bigotry and religious persecution.
FWIW, GOI and state govts don't want to get into this swamp of horror that was inflicted on mostly Hindus by Jehadis and Crusaders.
Forever we read about battle between Akbar-the-Great and some random Guy called Hemu. No one would ever know about full name, background or religion or prowess of Hemu.


It is just the congi/naxal/commie/offshore BIF gangs that do not want the Hindus to know about the horrors perpetrated by the jehadis and crusaders.

The nationalist folks all want the truth to be taught in the schools and not whitewashed like the congi/naxal/commie/offshore BIF gangs have slyly done since independence under the guise of secularism.

Ever wonder why the first education minister of independent India was a muslim and who helped put him there and what he did when he was cunningly allowed a free hand by cha cha che che nehru.

conversion and subversion needs the jehadi and xtian atrocities to be whitewashed and swept under the carpet by using predigested anti Hindu propaganda and psyops delivered to kids when they are most vulnerable during their formative years.

The complacent and trusting Hindu's have taken an axe to their own feet by foolishly letting their culture be trampled upon by some alien concept of secularism that has been wantonly shoved down their throats by the very same congi/naxal/commie/offshore BIF gangs.

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Postby Vikas » 01 Nov 2019 14:48

Chetak Ji,
The same 'nationalist folks' when in power hardly move their little finger to correct the bias in textbook.
We now have had 6 years of ABV and 5+ years of NM rule at the center. How many textbooks have been fixed where all are you seeing bigot rulers of the past being shown in true colors.
Blaming Congress ecosystem is futile in this case. Those who are peddling this fake narrative too are Hindus.
Would historians like Romila Thapar have not known the horror inflicted in Hindus during partition. I think blaming BIF/Naxal/Cong/commie gang is futile when it is us who is selling our own country and Hindus down the river for few pieces of silver.
All this congi/naxal/commie/BIF did not appear from west of Bharat, They are our own brown sahib's.

I repeat Govt's will never ever bring forth the horrors of Islamic/Christian rule atleast in school syllabus.

PS: Kalam was given education ministry because in an illiterate India, this was considered to be the most harmless ministry. Imagine him being Raksha Mantri or Finance Minister.
It was a open secret that Kalam and ChaCha were not fond of each other. Read Kalam's letters which were in bank lockers.
Education ministry became important once commies got added to the picture during IG's reign.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 01 Nov 2019 14:54

Sardar Patel's statue is at the back of the Camera

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Vikas wrote:Chetak Ji,
The same 'nationalist folks' when in power hardly move their little finger to correct the bias in textbook.
We now have had 6 years of ABV and 5+ years of NM rule at the center. How many textbooks have been fixed where all are you seeing bigot rulers of the past being shown in true colors.
Blaming Congress ecosystem is futile in this case. Those who are peddling this fake narrative too are Hindus.
Would historians like Romila Thapar have not known the horror inflicted in Hindus during partition. I think blaming BIF/Naxal/Cong/commie gang is futile when it is us who is selling our own country and Hindus down the river for few pieces of silver.
All this congi/naxal/commie/BIF did not appear from west of Bharat, They are our own brown sahib's.

I repeat Govt's will never ever bring forth the horrors of Islamic/Christian rule atleast in school syllabus.

PS: Kalam was given education ministry because in an illiterate India, this was considered to be the most harmless ministry. Imagine him being Raksha Mantri or Finance Minister.
It was a open secret that Kalam and ChaCha were not fond of each other. Read Kalam's letters which were in bank lockers.
Education ministry became important once commies got added to the picture during IG's reign.


I have a strong suspicion that this textbook project may involve international ramifications and a huge outcry from the BIF players detracting from the essential jobs at hand, especially given the fact that the BIF/muslim/commie/vatican gangs have invested decades of efforts and various deep state institutions are deeply invested in this long standing project.

Until Modi completes the minimal housekeeping tasks at hand like UCC, RJB etc, they may not want to generate additional headwinds to jeopardize their own agenda.

But please notice that topics considered taboo earlier are being discussed very openly by all political parties these days and there is a futile feeling among almost all of them that some important changes just cannot wait any further and the time has come to speak the truth that was wantonly hidden all these decades by nefarious people for their own nefarious purposes.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 01 Nov 2019 15:59

chetak wrote:
Vikas wrote:Chetak Ji,

I repeat Govt's will never ever bring forth the horrors of Islamic/Christian rule atleast in school syllabus.
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Until Modi completes the minimal housekeeping tasks at hand like UCC, RJB etc, they may not want to generate additional headwinds to jeopardize their own agenda.



I personally have full faith in Modi Ji. There is time and space for every move and time for textbooks too will come. It is just that BJP govt hasn't yet placed any half competent Minister as HRD minister.

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Vikas wrote:
chetak wrote:
Until Modi completes the minimal housekeeping tasks at hand like UCC, RJB etc, they may not want to generate additional headwinds to jeopardize their own agenda.



I personally have full faith in Modi Ji. There is time and space for every move and time for textbooks too will come. It is just that BJP govt hasn't yet placed any half competent Minister as HRD minister.


Saar,

The only guy I know (and also have full faith in) who can ram this through, even in the face of widespread objections is murali manohar joshi.

The wise ones have put him out to pasture. Go figure.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 01 Nov 2019 18:40

twitter


If real story of '93 Mumbai blasts came out, Congress (NCP was part of Congress then) will lose everything - Prakash Ambedkar




TV9 Marathi Verified account @TV9Marathi

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#PrakashAmbedkar #VBA

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Postby abhijitm » 01 Nov 2019 20:06

chetak wrote:twitter


If real story of '93 Mumbai blasts came out, Congress (NCP was part of Congress then) will lose everything - Prakash Ambedkar




TV9 Marathi Verified account @TV9Marathi

मुंबईच्या स्फोटाची खरी माहिती निघाली, तर काँग्रेसवरील उरला सुरला विश्वास‍ संपेल : प्रकाश आंबेडकर
https://www.tv9marathi.com/maharashtra/ ... 35771.html
#PrakashAmbedkar #VBA

We are in general a society with lack of self esteem and respect. Congress has done monumental betrayals of the nation which are widely known but yet people have not made them pay. Any self respecting society would have made the party banned permanently. So, I doubt even if it comes out that cong abetted 93 blast or even helped terrorists escaped, still there are people who will vote the party.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 01 Nov 2019 23:41

Makes sense ...

Behind India’s winter smog: not stubble-burning, but free water, power & mostly STUPIDITY

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Postby shravanp » 02 Nov 2019 01:47

abhijitm wrote:
chetak wrote:twitter







We are in general a society with lack of self esteem and respect. Congress has done monumental betrayals of the nation which are widely known but yet people have not made them pay. Any self respecting society would have made the party banned permanently. So, I doubt even if it comes out that cong abetted 93 blast or even helped terrorists escaped, still there are people who will vote the party.


At-times I think we put "people" too high on pedastal. Agreed with janta janardan and all that, but even if there's a scumiest scum of party that tries to participate in election, there will aways be some who would vote for them. The choice should not be given them. The joke is on our institutions and lack of enforcement with solid support from judiciary.

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Postby ramana » 02 Nov 2019 02:20

Couptaji sees the writing on the wall and has suddenly become balanced!!!

Punjab is the biggest source of stubble burning. And to reduce that NDA had setup an ethanol plantin 2017 in Punjab.
But the site has yet to see the plant being built as Captain is sitting on his political pajamas

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Postby chetak » 02 Nov 2019 12:11

“Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English).

how the shady global commies/naxals/BIF are continuing to target Modi and smear him at every opportunity, and not in the least concerned with the truth.



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Govt Sources: #WhatsApp had given information to CERT-IN (Govt agency) in May. Communication in pure technical jargon without mention of Pegasus or extent of breach. Info shared was about technical vulnerability, nothing on the fact that privacy of Indian users was compromised.

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watch video


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Kerala, Cochin based ISIS converts Hindu girls & sells them online.
See its rate cards.



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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyWYPNrZWEc


These are facts about Pakistan which they hide from people



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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 02 Nov 2019 17:39

https://www.news18.com/news/politics/vi ... 71051.html
Here we go!!
The elderly Gent has what you would call 'Verbal Diarrhoea' and this is a chronic affliction and incurable in him.
I wonder why Namo-Shamo picked him again
What with SS dramas in MH all we need is another one to start in my state.
Why cant we get him a 'gubernatorial post' and shunt him to Uttarakhand or Meghalaya where there is no controversies or secession trouble

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Postby pankajs » 02 Nov 2019 18:08

Rsatchi wrote:https://www.news18.com/news/politics/video-shows-yediyurappa-admitting-to-bjp-president-role-in-bringing-down-hdk-govt-cong-to-approach-sc-2371051.html
Here we go!!
The elderly Gent has what you would call 'Verbal Diarrhoea' and this is a chronic affliction and incurable in him.
I wonder why Namo-Shamo picked him again
What with SS dramas in MH all we need is another one to start in my state.
Why cant we get him a 'gubernatorial post' and shunt him to Uttarakhand or Meghalaya where there is no controversies or secession trouble

If you are from the state, as you claim, then you should know better than most that Yedi is the tallest Lingyat leader in the state but especially for the BJP and BJP's base in the core Lingyat vote.

You would also recall what happened when last time BJP sidelined him. BJP will have no shot at power without the full backing of the Lingyat votes.

First, We should wait for more data before forming such hard opinions. CON is not averse to faking videos. In the past, they have put out many audio/video, some of which have turned out to be fakes.

Second, This is another example of Perfect being the enemy of good enough. Yeddi has his drawback and those are well know but that doe not take away the fact that he is the best bet for BJP at present.

He might have made a faux paus here but that does not mean we start dumping on him.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 02 Nov 2019 18:22

this thread on Sardar Patel needs to be read by all Indians.


https://twitter.com/aranganathan72/status/1013370407565611008?lang=en

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 02 Nov 2019 18:33

pankajs wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:https://www.news18.com/news/politics/video-shows-yediyurappa-admitting-to-bjp-president-role-in-bringing-down-hdk-govt-cong-to-approach-sc-2371051.html
Here we go!!
The elderly Gent has what you would call 'Verbal Diarrhoea' and this is a chronic affliction and incurable in him.
I wonder why Namo-Shamo picked him again
What with SS dramas in MH all we need is another one to start in my state.
Why cant we get him a 'gubernatorial post' and shunt him to Uttarakhand or Meghalaya where there is no controversies or secession trouble

If you are from the state, as you claim, then you should know better than most that Yedi is the tallest Lingyat leader in the state but especially for the BJP and BJP's base in the core Lingyat vote.

You would also recall what happened when last time BJP sidelined him. BJP will have no shot at power without the full backing of the Lingyat votes.


First, We should wait for more data before forming such hard opinions. CON is not averse to faking videos. In the past, they have put out many audio/video, some of which have turned out to be fakes.

Second, This is another example of Perfect being the enemy of good enough. Yeddi has his drawback and those are well know but that doe not take away the fact that he is the best bet for BJP at present.

He might have made a faux paus here but that does not mean we start dumping on him.

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The 'Tallest' leader yes that was sometime in the past ( Advanji boosted the party strength from 2 to present day).
As in every thing (as Rahul Dravid once famously said on quitting capataincy) there is a shelf-life and things cant be left on for ever and we have move on and get the second string to play!!

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 02 Nov 2019 19:28

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For the 2nd time in 3 months India has abstained from a UN vote on China’s rights violations in Xinjiang. Yesterday 23 countries slammed China, India abstained. Why? Beijing targets Delhi,calls a UN closed-door meet, says Kashmir move “void” & India abstains. What’s the strategy?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 02 Nov 2019 19:52

chetak wrote:twitter
For the 2nd time in 3 months India has abstained from a UN vote on China’s rights violations in Xinjiang. Yesterday 23 countries slammed China, India abstained. Why? Beijing targets Delhi,calls a UN closed-door meet, says Kashmir move “void” & India abstains. What’s the strategy?

I too saw this on twitter.

India has already started to indicate that it is unhappy with China and 4 such recent data points immediately comes to mind.

1. Allowed the US ambassador to travel to Arunachal.
2. Allowed US Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom Sam Brownback to meet the Dalai Lama in Dharmshala after which he made a strong statement on China.
3. The consultative process on the Quad has picked up pace in recent days
4. The last statement out of MEA on China's take on J&K was aggressive.

All of these happened after Mallapuram meet between Xi and Modi. The strategy is clear. People have selective memories and are more interested in outraging.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 02 Nov 2019 20:00

Rsatchi wrote:
pankajs wrote:If you are from the state, as you claim, then you should know better than most that Yedi is the tallest Lingyat leader in the state but especially for the BJP and BJP's base in the core Lingyat vote.

You would also recall what happened when last time BJP sidelined him. BJP will have no shot at power without the full backing of the Lingyat votes.


First, We should wait for more data before forming such hard opinions. CON is not averse to faking videos. In the past, they have put out many audio/video, some of which have turned out to be fakes.

Second, This is another example of Perfect being the enemy of good enough. Yeddi has his drawback and those are well know but that doe not take away the fact that he is the best bet for BJP at present.

He might have made a faux paus here but that does not mean we start dumping on him.

Pankaji
No doubt in the fact that I am from Karunadu and a proper 'Malnad' boy
The 'Tallest' leader yes that was sometime in the past ( Advanji boosted the party strength from 2 to present day).
As in every thing (as Rahul Dravid once famously said on quitting capataincy) there is a shelf-life and things cant be left on for ever and we have move on and get the second string to play!!

1. Yeddi may not be Modi or Shah but he has the capacity to split the Lingyat vote that is the core around which BJP has built its support in Karnataka.
2. Everyone suspects that State elections will need to happen in the near future and no one wants a split in the core vote at this stage.
3. At this stage of the game, removing Yeddi will only promote factionalism as other leader and fractions vie for power and influence and try undercutting each other.

And at this crucial juncture you wanted the baton to be passed to someone else!

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 02 Nov 2019 20:49

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#WATCH Thailand: Prime Minister Narendra Modi recites a poem by Tamil poet Thiruvalluvar while he speaks about the Thai translation of Tamil classic 'Tirukkural' which he released at the #SawasdeePMModi event, in Bangkok.


It's obvious he wants to impress tamils. But IMO, he is better off seriously looking into jihadi, EJ, tolliwood, commie mafia. Movie after movie, speech after speech, BIF are drilling nonsense into dumb and gullible tamils with impunity. If blinders are removed, I believe there are still few dharmiks left in TN.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 02 Nov 2019 21:21

pankajs wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:Pankaji
No doubt in the fact that I am from Karunadu and a proper 'Malnad' boy
The 'Tallest' leader yes that was sometime in the past ( Advanji boosted the party strength from 2 to present day).
As in every thing (as Rahul Dravid once famously said on quitting capataincy) there is a shelf-life and things cant be left on for ever and we have move on and get the second string to play!!

1. Yeddi may not be Modi or Shah but he has the capacity to split the Lingyat vote that is the core around which BJP has built its support in Karnataka.
2. Everyone suspects that State elections will need to happen in the near future and no one wants a split in the core vote at this stage.
3. At this stage of the game, removing Yeddi will only promote factionalism as other leader and fractions vie for power and influence and try undercutting each other.

And at this crucial juncture you wanted the baton to be passed to someone else!

Sir
I am not suggesting to sack him but to gently goad him to pick a successor thereby he wont feel side-lined or neglected
And also pass the baton ever so smoothly
who kehathe hain Na: 'Ek teer Do nishaane'!!
Otherwise sir BJP will be stuck in the ever increasing grind of 'Lingayat-Vokkaliga mill'
Unfortunately there is no 'Ramkrishna Hedge' type to carry on 'Sabka saath-Sab ka vikas' in the state :roll:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 02 Nov 2019 21:26

Karthik, NM is doing what he can do best. Beyond a point, There has to be basic swelling of Hindu Pride among Tamil folks to force a govt which is at least neutral if not Hindu-Pasand.
AS per me, TN and AP have almost become Kerala in terms of religious demographics.

Was speaking with a Colleague of mine from Chennai.As per him,

Current govt is bumbling and running like headless chicken.
There is almost certainty that Stalin will be the next CM.
Surprise Surprise, He thinks that KamalHasan has a great chance of garnering some votes for himself. May end up winning 1-2 seats or more if aligns with DMK (Which most likely he would).
Rajni has missed the bus for good and his political game is over(Assuming he wanted to be a political player like MGR)

BJP of course is not in the play but they can help AIADMK with strategy, resources and favorable policies.

All in all, expect a DMK govt back in Fort Thomas.


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