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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby fanne » 02 Nov 2019 21:27

I am not a Kannadiga, and hence not afflicted by any bias, and can afford to do out of box analysis. The down side is, I would miss any subtlety that only a Kannadiga would know (though if you are the new IT kind of a person, disconnected from grass root, than good luck with that capability).
Around 2007 if you were following my analysis on Albatross in flight website (I had done the analysis of Karnataka election, seat by seat with over 95% accuracy) , you would know I have been a political animal (I was since age of 10 years...)
1.Yeddy is a mass leader and continues to be one
2.He may not know enough English, or may not be handsome, may be old, but unless you are planning to marry him (and he is a person of high moral standards) - Your dislike of him speaks about lack of self confidence in yourself than anyone else
3.He was the first legislator of BJP (when BJP had grand total of 1 seat in KA assembly), and from there has built the party so that it is in power. He has never been a turncoat, not imported from any other party, and has been in every turn and twist of BJP in KA. Yes he was the original leader, with other stalwarts and rivals (which is on Par in Politics) like Hegde ji etc.
4. He was initially a BJP/RSS leader (not a Lingayat leader, Lingayats being the biggest group in KA with say around 20% vote), appealing to all castes and class. He still does appeal to many. With Lingayats issue handled badly by Cong, this vote bank was looking for benefactors (Con had used and thrown them, as it did with many other communities through out India), it found one in BSY. BSY being one smart politician understood the importance and owned that constituency. The distinction I make is important. He was not a caste leader like Lalu Yadav, MSY with a narrow vision.
5.He is very much into farmer politics, having the same background. He really knows their issues and also knows the issues of small towns, traders etc. He is perhaps the very top politician that has covered his constituency multiple times through various yatras (in or out of power).So if a ITVITY crowd (born and raised - mentally or physically on MG road) and do not relate to his though process, that is understandable). 80%-90% of KA population still have concerns and issues where BSY is an expert. You may not also relate to him because of local caste politics (I will leave this at that without elaborating).
6.Let's address the issue of corruption. For the record the court have exonerated him. But in India (and elsewhere), you can get exonerated even if corrupt. So is BSY corrupt - NO he is not corrupt!! Just like Modi, the Con System went after him (he was the original Modi, that to in a southern state, which was the prime target of conversion and eventually a separate nation. You can see that almost succeeding in the other 4 south Indian states. He was meticulously targeted, trapped and implicated by a Congi/AAP stooges (without naming names lest it attracts legal scrutiny, in this day of google you can search). He is a beach head in south that the powers that be were going to great length to destroy, including taking help from people within BJP (by stoking false moral equivalence, rivalry and what not - something that Modi Ji faced and survived better).
7. His son is also not corrupt (though being a son of a powerful politician brings with it a bad of unsavory traits. He has been over all decent). As the grapevine would have it, the DIL of BSY is known to 'influence' and exert favor. This tendency has been resisted heavily by BSY and his son. The cases where he was trapped have origin from here. Let me repeat myself, these guys were not involved and would remain above board. This was gamed heavily by cong system and BSY jailed for that. Most of the more morale than Shri Ram Chandra himself crowd are stuck in this mechanization of the cong system.
8. Coming to present times, he is still the tallest leader of BJP in KA and the most vote getter. The problem is BJP has not yet grown fully and replaced the rivals (like it has done in Guj, Raj, MP, HP, uk), from assembly election point of view. It is still not in play in southern KA (Cong and JDU are rivals, and the dominant catse, the Vokkaligas are still with JDU, just like Yadavs are with MSY/LY). The amount of seats that it in play, it has to almost hit at 70%-80% strike rate to be in power, which is a tough call. Any disturbance in the delicate equation within BJP (and I am not counting anti-incumbency etc) makes it tougher for BJP. T
9. The challenges that BJP faces goes beyond BSY. The BJP foot print has to increase, and at the same time, in it's area of influence, JDU decimated (so that its vote shifts to either BJP and cong) and Cong weekend.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 02 Nov 2019 21:31

Rsatchi wrote:
pankajs wrote:
I am not suggesting to sack him but to gently goad him to pick a successor thereby he wont feel side-lined or neglected
And also pass the baton ever so smoothly
Otherwise sir BJP will be stuck in the ever increasing grind of 'Lingayat-Vokkaliga mill'
Unfortunately there is no 'Ramkrishna Hedge' type to carry on 'Sabka saath-Sab ka vikas' in the state :roll:


In politics, There is a time and space for everything. 'Lingayat-Vokkaliga' is a reality in KA and a political party can not overcome it unless a leader appears who can bridge this gap.
Till then Yeddi is the best bet BJP has got. He is a good leader though obsessed with being CM but still a good leader. He was thrown under the bus last time by Advani and Co.

Picking a successor in politics is the best way to commit political suicide. Here even Sons and Nephews aren't loyal, what to talk about successor.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 02 Nov 2019 22:23

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Ujjaval Shah@UJJAVALSHAH2·12h
As CM Gujarat @narendramodi went to court agnst minority scholarship granted to minority students citing it un-constitutional. N as PM he endorses it n increases the Central Govt’s contribution to full 100%. Modiji’s ‘ taqiya ‘ on his vote bank or his ‘ Chankyaniti ‘ cc
@RSSorg

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 02 Nov 2019 22:42

Abhishek Bagchi @abishekbagchi
Majuli, Assam CM Sonowal's Constituency

Head Priest of Xatra ( Vaishnavite Inst.) was arrested by Assam Govt for trying to stop spread of Christianity

Now, Missionary Organizations are openly calling him a Terr0rist . Nobody Arrested. Secularism

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 02 Nov 2019 23:34

#ModiHaiToMumkinHai .. The outrage that is.

This is now the official map of UT J&K and Ladhak and some people have found a reason to outrage on this too! :rotfl:

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1190585392556195840
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The new maps of the Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir & Union Territory of Ladakh. The two Union Territories formally came into existence on 31st October, 2019.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 02 Nov 2019 23:48

Vikas wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:


In politics, There is a time and space for everything. 'Lingayat-Vokkaliga' is a reality in KA and a political party can not overcome it unless a leader appears who can bridge this gap.
Till then Yeddi is the best bet BJP has got. He is a good leader though obsessed with being CM but still a good leader. He was thrown under the bus last time by Advani and Co.

Picking a successor in politics is the best way to commit political suicide. Here even Sons and Nephews aren't loyal, what to talk about successor.


he is being treated badly and is being humiliated by all concerned in his own party, not to talk of outsiders.

He doesn't want to go.

His prison tenure has scarred him deeply and he doesn't want that stain on his reputation to remain.

He needs a good tenure as CM to overcome that episode in his life. He was set up and slaughtered by his own people who used his political enemies from the JDS to get at him. Anant kumar, who had no mass base and was salivating for a very long time to become the CM was complicit in all of this and he was part of that poisonous dilli gang who were foolishly helping him without any understanding the caste dynamics in KAR.

That was also the reason why that the gang was broken up, some sent out to pasture, some sidelined and some kicked upstairs.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 03 Nov 2019 00:54

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 03 Nov 2019 01:07

next elections, whenever, sena will be forced to fight on its own or in a non BJP alliance.

they have poisoned the well.

If it goes against the BJP this time, pawar will be the CM and not AT.

the jod thod govt will last six months, give or take. :mrgreen:




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Sanjay Raut roars on Sena s behalf - “ Take it from me in writing the next CM will be from Sena. “ as i said yday Mr. Thackeray and entire Shiv Sena knows - Abhi nahi toh kabhi nahi!

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KJo » 03 Nov 2019 01:21

pankajs wrote:#ModiHaiToMumkinHai .. The outrage that is.

This is now the official map of UT J&K and Ladhak and some people have found a reason to outrage on this too! :rotfl:


It looks like the big bad Yindoos and Boodists of Ladakh are towering over the poor innocent Mooslims of Kashmir. :((
It's an outrage!

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 03 Nov 2019 03:40

chetak wrote:next elections, whenever, sena will be forced to fight on its own or in a non BJP alliance.

they have poisoned the well.

If it goes against the BJP this time, pawar will be the CM and not AT.

the jod thod govt will last six months, give or take. :mrgreen:




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Sanjay Raut roars on Sena s behalf - “ Take it from me in writing the next CM will be from Sena. “ as i said yday Mr. Thackeray and entire Shiv Sena knows - Abhi nahi toh kabhi nahi!

Everything will settle down after 5th November and BJP will regain control. Till then let the SS make noise.

Btw, the "Abhi nahi toh kabhi nahi" is right.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 03 Nov 2019 12:09

Vikas wrote:Rajni has missed the bus for good and his political game is over(Assuming he wanted to be a political player like MGR)

From all what I could understand; Rajni's gimmicks only works in the special type of movies made for him. He does not have the courage, the acumen and the wherewithal to get into politics. He is just not made for that work. It would be futile for anyone to hope that he would jump into politics and Hindutwa would just rise up in TN.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 03 Nov 2019 15:16

chetak wrote:next elections, whenever, sena will be forced to fight on its own or in a non BJP alliance.

they have poisoned the well.

Sanjay Raut roars on Sena s behalf - “ Take it from me in writing the next CM will be from Sena. “ as i said yday Mr. Thackeray and entire Shiv Sena knows - Abhi nahi toh kabhi nahi!


SS is not a party that BJP can trust after all the shenanigans they are performing.
I have no doubt that they will go with NCP and Congress if they are sure of the support for next 1-2 years. SS politics is without any ideology. They started with opposing commies, then turned ire towards South Indians and Post-RJB, latched onto Hindutva while undercurrent of Mumbai-is-mine was always there.
They would jump the ship in a heartbeat becoming another Nitish or CBN but they are facing the willy Kaka sahib who is playing his own game. How do you get into bed with Kaka without harming your future prospects ?
There is no juice to be squeezed if SS opposes BJP in next elections. Sanjay Raut is turning out to be another Gafoora or Rashid with his boasts and brags.
SS without BJP and any wave is about 45-50 seats max.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 03 Nov 2019 15:19

Sachin wrote:
Vikas wrote:Rajni has missed the bus for good and his political game is over(Assuming he wanted to be a political player like MGR)

From all what I could understand; Rajni's gimmicks only works in the special type of movies made for him. He does not have the courage, the acumen and the wherewithal to get into politics. He is just not made for that work. It would be futile for anyone to hope that he would jump into politics and Hindutwa would just rise up in TN.


I think Poor Rajini was being forced into Politics when his heart clearly lies somewhere else. I think lot of people reflected their own aspiration onto Rajini's onscreen persona and then felt disappointed that he did not jump into shark infested waters of Marina beach.
There is a rumor that Stalin is dying due to some cancer and may not be around when the next election cycle in 24-25 hits TN. Both TN and KA will be hit with a big political vacuum in few years time.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Manish_Sharma » 03 Nov 2019 15:37

PIYUSH GOEL SERIES OF TWEETS:

Smt. Sonia Gandhi ji has suddenly woken up to RCEP and FTAs.
So where was she
- When trade deficit with RCEP nations increased from $7 Billion in 2004 to $78 Billion in 2014?
- When her Govt forced India to join RCEP negotiations with China in 2011-12. 1/5

Smt. Sonia Gandhi ji has suddenly woken up to RCEP and FTAs. So where was she
- When FTA with ASEAN was signed in 2010?
- When FTA with South Korea was signed in 2010?
- When FTA with Malaysia was signed in 2011?
- When FTA with Japan was signed in 2011?
2/5

Smt. Sonia Gandhi ji has suddenly woken up to RCEP and FTAs. So where was she
When her Govt. opened 74% of its market to ASEAN countries but richer countries like Indonesia opened only 50% for India? Why did she not speak against giving larger concessions to richer countries
3/5

Where was Sonia ji when her Govt agreed to explore an India-China FTA in 2007? I hope ex PM Dr Manmohan Singh will speak up against this insult to him
4/5

PM @narendramodi ji has highlighted that RCEP must be a win-win “We too would like a win-win outcome. We believe that for this, addressing our concerns over unsustainable trade deficits is important.” https://t.co/3kDKx1taXh
5/5


https://twitter.com/PiyushGoyal/status/ ... 36897?s=19

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 03 Nov 2019 15:43

Vikas wrote:I think Poor Rajini was being forced into Politics when his heart clearly lies somewhere else.

Rajanikanth @ Shivaji Rao Gaekwad was a bus conductor in Bengaluru. His father was a police HC/PC. He has not been in any political party, group or done any political activity in his life. He has no clue on politics, especially the grass root level of politics (which many BJP politicians in KA actually have). His popularity is purely based on the kind of movies (and the gimmicks in there) which he acted. MGR etc. got popular when people could not differentiate between reel life and real life. Rajanikanth also gained popularity when the situation is the same. Today times have changed. Movies etc can still influence people in TN, but not with a very "on your face" kind of stuff. And that is where strategies of folks like Joseph Vijay gains importance.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 03 Nov 2019 15:45

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Punjab CM @capt_amarinder launches broadside on Pakistan. Terms Kartarpur corridor opening to be an "ISI operation". Says it is being done for wooing Sikhs for the separatist 'Referendum 2020' campaign. @IndianExpress

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vips » 03 Nov 2019 19:00

Thankfully the former army men has not his allegiance to the Italian mafia party overwhelm his thinking. His heart is still in the right place. He should be in BJP not in the terrorist loving and national interest compromising (con) gress.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 04 Nov 2019 03:16

To me he is ambivalent blows hot and cold.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 04 Nov 2019 11:00

ramana wrote:To me he is ambivalent blows hot and cold.


He has power only as long as he is the CM. Going hammer and tongs against or for any position can cost him his chair in congress ecosystem. Remember RaGa happily was clicking pics with Sherry while Sherry was trying to sabotage Punjab govt.

Captain is playing the game knowing that this is his last innings.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 04 Nov 2019 11:03

Vips wrote:Thankfully the former army men has not his allegiance to the Italian mafia party overwhelm his thinking. His heart is still in the right place. He should be in BJP not in the terrorist loving and national interest compromising (con) gress.


He can't be in BJP and play second fiddle to Badal clan and BJP will never ditch Akali Dal. So it is a Mexican standoff for him.
He is still a better bet than Narcotics selling Majitha clan and 'Pak Army of Business in Punjab' i.e. Badal Clan.

He is better off in Congress running his own fiefdom in Punjab and keeping things normal while giving AD+BJP, a run for their money.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Deans » 04 Nov 2019 11:12

Vips wrote:Thankfully the former army men has not his allegiance to the Italian mafia party overwhelm his thinking. His heart is still in the right place. He should be in BJP not in the terrorist loving and national interest compromising (con) gress.


He was my father's coursemate at the NDA. I believe his heart is in the right place and since this is last innings, he would like to have a legacy he is remembered by - which includes no compromise on national security, or selling out to the Italians.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 04 Nov 2019 13:15

ramana wrote:To me he is ambivalent blows hot and cold.



something about his last interview to vir sanghvi just did not sit right.

He wants the center to pay the panjab farmers not to burn the stubble.

Burning stubble is a nation wide issue and renowned two faced ideological organizations like the NGT have willfully turned a blind eye while maintaining complete silence on the matter.

the captain very duplicitously forgets that agriculture is a jealously guarded state subject, especially in states like punjab and the ball is very squarely in his court.

The size of a politician's testimonials is often revealed in the handling of such issues. He does not care about the hundreds of thousands of crores in losses to the national exchequer due to the polluting smog caused by his farmers.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Mollick.R » 04 Nov 2019 15:02

Vips wrote:Thankfully the former army men has not his allegiance to the Italian mafia party overwhelm his thinking. His heart is still in the right place. He should be in BJP not in the terrorist loving and national interest compromising (con) gress.


Can Mota bhai (AS) do a "Himanta Biswa Sarma" with him ????

One of the few remaining Khangressi whom i still have respect left.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 04 Nov 2019 15:39

^^ Captain has no future in BJP. On Top, Age is not on his side which means BJP will not have much interest in him.
Rather they would like to get a young one like Scindia or Pilot.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 04 Nov 2019 15:51

Vikas wrote:^^ Captain has no future in BJP. On Top, Age is not on his side which means BJP will not have much interest in him.
Rather they would like to get a young one like Scindia or Pilot.


pilot is completely deracinated and beyond recovery.

the scindias are duplicitous and have their fingers in every political party and conveniently subscribe to every ideology that benefits them.

Power is what drives all these guys, not ideology or even the thought of public service or even the idea of India.

why root around in political garbage cans when fresh and motivated recruits are available

the captain has lots of hereditary property in lahore and is extremely paki pasand. he also seems to have a paki mistress of long standing.

her name is aroosa alam, tharoor has shady connections with meher tarar. It would be unwise to assume that these ladies have no ISI connections.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 04 Nov 2019 15:53

https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status ... 0548890626
Times of India @timesofindia

Government to provide 100% funding to develop schools, hospitals on Waqf properties: Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi

Modi being Modi is being Modi again :rotfl:
Difficult for ordinary folks to understand Modi .. and the outrage has started on SM. Read the replies.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 04 Nov 2019 16:03

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/1138830820548890626
Times of India @timesofindia

Government to provide 100% funding to develop schools, hospitals on Waqf properties: Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi

Modi being Modi is being Modi again :rotfl:
Difficult for ordinary folks to understand Modi .. and the outrage has started on SM. Read the replies.


this may be part of the RJB deal. :mrgreen:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 04 Nov 2019 16:07

chetak wrote:
pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/1138830820548890626

Modi being Modi is being Modi again :rotfl:
Difficult for ordinary folks to understand Modi .. and the outrage has started on SM. Read the replies.


this may be part of the RJB deal. :mrgreen:

No saar ... this is pure chanakyan if I am reading it right. Try a different angle.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby fanne » 04 Nov 2019 16:15

Rjb it is

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 04 Nov 2019 16:21

Hindus don't BUT suppose they had full veto on how Temple land all across India is used.

Lets play a little game to understand what is happening here ... Lets do this step by step.

Will Hindus\You allow a 100% GOI funded "Vedic school" to be built on a Temple land? While this is just the 1st such question in a series, can anyone visualize the endgame from this very simple question?
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ArjunPandit » 04 Nov 2019 16:27

^^^I think this is for the long term reform and an entry into the source of all insects, try to find munafiqs and use them to weaken the venomous snakes and betterment of the nation

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 04 Nov 2019 17:05

twitter

Priyanka Gandhi is not lying! Her whatsapp was really hacked.
Here is the proof



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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rony » 04 Nov 2019 17:53

Centre to fully fund minority scholarships

The Supreme Court has recently disposed of an appeal filed by the Gujarat government, challenging the constitutional validity of the pre-matric scholarship scheme for students from religious minority communities. This was in the wake of the Centre agreeing to fully fund the scheme, instead of 75% as proposed in the scheme.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 04 Nov 2019 21:44

some countries are merely putting a tempered glass cover on the chinese made cell phone display and are re exporting the fully chinese made cell phone to India as a "value added" product "originating" from their countries thus incurring zero duty.

This is merely one example.

This is how the hans are screwing with us.



India will not join Asian trade deal RCEP: Narendra Modi says agreement doesn't reflect original intent, can't compromise on core interests

Nov 04, 2019

India has decided not to join the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) agreement as its key concerns have not been addressed

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, attending the ASEAN summit in Bangkok, stood firm on India's concerns in the trade deal not being addressed and decided there cannot be any compromise on core interests

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 04 Nov 2019 22:00

chetak wrote:
ramana wrote:To me he is ambivalent blows hot and cold.



something about his last interview to vir sanghvi just did not sit right.

He wants the center to pay the panjab farmers not to burn the stubble.

Burning stubble is a nation wide issue and renowned two faced ideological organizations like the NGT have willfully turned a blind eye while maintaining complete silence on the matter.

the captain very duplicitously forgets that agriculture is a jealously guarded state subject, especially in states like punjab and the ball is very squarely in his court.

The size of a politician's testimonials is often revealed in the handling of such issues. He does not care about the hundreds of thousands of crores in losses to the national exchequer due to the polluting smog caused by his farmers.

Sirji
https://youtu.be/OAnSS6rdJCA
Is this really the problem!!
meaning farmers are now taking the government(regardless of who is power) for a ride.
meaning they know they have them(government) by the 'cojones' and continue squeezing!!
Because as Coupta seems to be alluding the 'Dilli ki smog' is for the last decade and half (correct me if I am wrong)
Should we not have a comprehensive 'water' and 'agrarian' policy a la 'Green revolution'
But because the agriculture is in state subject!! we have stupid laws passed by jingoistic state governments and after a decade we have a social problem!!!
No wonder DKS (as per investigation bureau) reaping 'Gold' from even worthless lands!!!

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 04 Nov 2019 22:12

Rsatchi wrote:
chetak wrote:

something about his last interview to vir sanghvi just did not sit right.

He wants the center to pay the panjab farmers not to burn the stubble.

Burning stubble is a nation wide issue and renowned two faced ideological organizations like the NGT have willfully turned a blind eye while maintaining complete silence on the matter.

the captain very duplicitously forgets that agriculture is a jealously guarded state subject, especially in states like punjab and the ball is very squarely in his court.

The size of a politician's testimonials is often revealed in the handling of such issues. He does not care about the hundreds of thousands of crores in losses to the national exchequer due to the polluting smog caused by his farmers.

Sirji
https://youtu.be/OAnSS6rdJCA
Is this really the problem!!
meaning farmers are now taking the government(regardless of who is power) for a ride.
meaning they know they have them(government) by the 'cojones' and continue squeezing!!
Because as Coupta seems to be alluding the 'Dilli ki smog' is for the last decade and half (correct me if I am wrong)
Should we not have a comprehensive 'water' and 'agrarian' policy a la 'Green revolution'
But because the agriculture is in state subject!! we have stupid laws passed by jingoistic state governments and after a decade we have a social problem!!!
No wonder DKS (as per investigation bureau) reaping 'Gold' from even worthless lands!!!


a daughter of a shady politico in MAH has declared over a hundred crores of agricultural income from just 10 odd acres "farm land".

Either she has really hard working bulls plowing her fields day and night or the BS produced by said pair of bulls is the source of her "income".

either way, the scam stinks but she is laughing all the way to the bank.

If anyone else tried the same con, they would be arrested without bail and the key would be thrown away.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ShyamSP » 04 Nov 2019 22:24

Rsatchi wrote:
chetak wrote:

something about his last interview to vir sanghvi just did not sit right.

He wants the center to pay the panjab farmers not to burn the stubble.

Burning stubble is a nation wide issue and renowned two faced ideological organizations like the NGT have willfully turned a blind eye while maintaining complete silence on the matter.

the captain very duplicitously forgets that agriculture is a jealously guarded state subject, especially in states like punjab and the ball is very squarely in his court.

The size of a politician's testimonials is often revealed in the handling of such issues. He does not care about the hundreds of thousands of crores in losses to the national exchequer due to the polluting smog caused by his farmers.

Sirji
https://youtu.be/OAnSS6rdJCA
Is this really the problem!!
meaning farmers are now taking the government(regardless of who is power) for a ride.
meaning they know they have them(government) by the 'cojones' and continue squeezing!!
Because as Coupta seems to be alluding the 'Dilli ki smog' is for the last decade and half (correct me if I am wrong)
Should we not have a comprehensive 'water' and 'agrarian' policy a la 'Green revolution'
But because the agriculture is in state subject!! we have stupid laws passed by jingoistic state governments and after a decade we have a social problem!!!
No wonder DKS (as per investigation bureau) reaping 'Gold' from even worthless lands!!!


Why can't Governments find solutions to recycle agro residues such as these stubbles? I understand Punjab has way excessive stubbles to dispose without burning, which easy thing for farmers to do. In Andhra, it is less of problem and burning was not needed or minimal as it is consumed in multiple ways, at least in a few decades ago. May be nowadays it is problem as traditional ways of consumption are no longer done.

On a side note Anti-Hindus convert this pollution as Diwali pollution conveniently as time of festival coincide with stubble burning.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vijayk » 04 Nov 2019 22:30

I was reading over some material over this weekend that predicts BD will sink in sea and around 50 millions BDs will flock to India.

Have we even thought what havoc this will bring to India? Do we have institutions that can think long term solutions regardless of the party in power?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 04 Nov 2019 22:53

ShyamSP wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:Sirji
https://youtu.be/OAnSS6rdJCA
Is this really the problem!!
meaning farmers are now taking the government(regardless of who is power) for a ride.
meaning they know they have them(government) by the 'cojones' and continue squeezing!!
Because as Coupta seems to be alluding the 'Dilli ki smog' is for the last decade and half (correct me if I am wrong)
Should we not have a comprehensive 'water' and 'agrarian' policy a la 'Green revolution'
But because the agriculture is in state subject!! we have stupid laws passed by jingoistic state governments and after a decade we have a social problem!!!
No wonder DKS (as per investigation bureau) reaping 'Gold' from even worthless lands!!!


Why can't Governments find solutions to recycle agro residues such as these stubbles? I understand Punjab has way excessive stubbles to dispose without burning, which easy thing for farmers to do. In Andhra, it is less of problem and burning was not needed or minimal as it is consumed in multiple ways, at least in a few decades ago. May be nowadays it is problem as traditional ways of consumption are no longer done.

On a side note Anti-Hindus convert this pollution as Diwali pollution conveniently as time of festival coincide with stubble burning.

Shyamji,
As the Coupta video alludes to : late Kharif sowing and rush to sow the Rabi crop seems to be main issue.
Winter time there is hardly much tempest/hurricane/wind force in the gangetic plains until North east Monsoon kicks in and you will find cyclones in Peninsular part. :shock:
Also the old business of 'crop rotation' is out of the window and everybody is on 'cash crop' or easy disposal crop ( i.e., as along as government is in the business of buy whatever they grow why would they change or for that matter why should they care!!!)
And with the present day Liberandu/leftis/Jihadi press anything that dharmic is easy game!! :roll:
Much easier outside India to celebrate Indic festivals with almost no restrictions than in India don't U think!! :D

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 05 Nov 2019 01:43

ShyamSP wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:Sirji
https://youtu.be/OAnSS6rdJCA
Is this really the problem!!
meaning farmers are now taking the government(regardless of who is power) for a ride.
meaning they know they have them(government) by the 'cojones' and continue squeezing!!
Because as Coupta seems to be alluding the 'Dilli ki smog' is for the last decade and half (correct me if I am wrong)
Should we not have a comprehensive 'water' and 'agrarian' policy a la 'Green revolution'
But because the agriculture is in state subject!! we have stupid laws passed by jingoistic state governments and after a decade we have a social problem!!!
No wonder DKS (as per investigation bureau) reaping 'Gold' from even worthless lands!!!


Why can't Governments find solutions to recycle agro residues such as these stubbles? I understand Punjab has way excessive stubbles to dispose without burning, which easy thing for farmers to do. In Andhra, it is less of problem and burning was not needed or minimal as it is consumed in multiple ways, at least in a few decades ago. May be nowadays it is problem as traditional ways of consumption are no longer done.

On a side note Anti-Hindus convert this pollution as Diwali pollution conveniently as time of festival coincide with stubble burning.



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You know what is REALLY scary? That it is ONLY because Delhi is being affected by crop-burning that we are outraging.

98 million tonnes of stubble is burnt every year ALL OVER India ALL YEAR round.

UP burns the maximum - 22%, Punjab 21%, Haryana 9%, AP 5%, WB 5%, TN 3%, Guj 4%.


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