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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 00:44

https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1197854983502221317
iMac_too @iMac_too

Uddhav told his MLAs only Fadnavis tried to contact him after results. Modi-Shah didn't bother to trouble him. He shouldn't complain as his current tagline is महाराष्ट्राचे निर्णय महाराष्ट्रात होतील. BJP was doing exactly that.
From Marathi channels .... Modi/Shah were so concerned about UT that they decided not to disturb him on government formation. Wah!

Next two months are going to be tough but the outlook will start clearing about the end of Jan/Feb beginning of 2020.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby CRamS » 23 Nov 2019 01:19

Looking at SS's cocky confidence that they have sunk BJP and Congoon's new found respect for Ram, I am reminded of SuSwamy's political sagacity:

In general, to get people's imagination in India, you need:

1. Economy -> 33.333%
2. Hinduthva and emotional issues like 370 and Pak -> 33.333%
3. Clean corruption free governance -> 33.333%

No one issue alone dominates. And I think with #1 above on people's minds (if DDM obsession with it holds), #2 and #3 may not in themselves get people's imagination. SS's gambit is based on that thinking, and also why despite some media reports, there is no significant push back by the rank and file against UT's betrayal of Hinduthva cause.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 01:31

The dog that did not bark ... hmmm

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face ...

Meanwhile, the dama is unending even after Modi/Shah vacated the field ...
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1197882203792797697
ANI @ANI

Ahmed Patel, Congress in Mumbai: Today's meeting (Congress-Shiv Sena-NCP) was inconclusive. The discussions will continue tomorrow.

OR, perhaps that is why they are still squabbling i.e. because they have been given the complete field and full six months time .. No pressure. :rotfl:
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 01:35

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 01:38

^^
Watch out for when BT starts appearing White robed ... Thankfully he at least is still in saffron. :)

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nachiket » 23 Nov 2019 01:49

CRamS wrote:I see that traitor media like print, wire, Undy etc are relentless in their Jihad against ModiJi on the economy. I speak to some friends and colleagues in India, and yes, there is concern, but not at the level these traitors make it out to be. In any case, Indian economy, is always a case of glass only a small percentage full. One can always pick and choose the negative aspects and harp on it.

But reason I am bringing this up is because is there any truth to the libtard claim that issues like 370, Ayodhya have run its course, and its the economy that is on the minds of people, and hence SS sensed this and they may not be hurt much because the nationalist issues have run their course?

Even if the economy had been doing well the media orgs you mentioned would have still been against Modi. They would have found something else to harp about. Can't gauge public opinion based on their utterances. They were saying the economy is in the toilet even before LS elections. Made no difference as far as elections were concerned.

If the concern is the economy itself, then yes a downturn is definitely problematic and needs corrective measures. Even criticizing govt. policies for causing or worsening it is fine. But the people still remember the economic pain during UPA 2 which was felt more acutely perhaps due to high inflation. So even if the criticism of Modi govt. on economy is coming from aam aadmi it doesn't mean they want the Congress or someone else in power and will change their vote next time. The govt. still has time to fix things since this is just the start of their term. Hopefully they can assess the situation and fix it. That is after all why we wanted them in power, because they will at least try to do something instead of sitting on their musharrafs.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 01:55

Some BJP MP has introduced a bill to "Free" Temples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhYriyDFpsg
Bill tabled to 'Free' Temples; Who behind this 'Historic Wrong'? | India Upfront [Times Now]



What is the game here? Why has it been introduced by a BJP MP as a personal bill and not the GOI.

But, it is still good now that this is getting airtime.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vayutuvan » 23 Nov 2019 03:09

kittoo wrote:Yeah. Occam's razor/duck principal and all.


Occam's razor explanation may not always be correct. A_Gupta ji is taking a minimalist/maximalist position.

It is not "11 dimensional chess" or "string theory" but sacrificing a rook or a queen so that a checkmate can be gotten in a few moves after the sacrifice. If NCP plays the game better, then it is a stalemate till the Trio govt. can be pulled down.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vayutuvan » 23 Nov 2019 03:30

A_Gupta wrote:#SoniaSena seems apt.

So is #KhichdiAlliance

I would go with #UpmaAlliance over #khichidi. Maha is in the south after all.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Primus » 23 Nov 2019 03:57

A brilliant analysis on the BHU issue by Ajit Bharti of Op India. This guy is incredible in his choice of words, sarcasm and wit. You have to have a deep knowledge of Hindi to enjoy it fully. His videos on Ravish Kumar are hilarious.


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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby V_Raman » 23 Nov 2019 07:09

Ayodhya verdict will dull the Hindutva spear a lot. Central government - will be fine due to NaMo factor - he won mainly due to JAM. State governments - fair game for any party - hindutva or not.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sanjayc » 23 Nov 2019 08:30

BREAKING NEWS: BJP's Devendra Fadnavis takes oath as Maharashtra Chief Minister at Raj Bhavan, NCP's Ajit Pawar his deputy

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby a_bharat » 23 Nov 2019 08:35

Googly. Though there was speculation on this, this was unexpected at this time.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby CRamS » 23 Nov 2019 08:45

Guys, tell me its fake news or DDM website have been hacked. But I am seeing Fadnavis sworn in as CM. WTF is going?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby praksam » 23 Nov 2019 08:46

CRamS wrote:Guys, tell me its fake news or DDM website have been hacked. But I am seeing Fadnavis sworn in as CM. WTF is going?

Amit Bhai @ work :rotfl:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby SriKumar » 23 Nov 2019 08:48

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: NDTV has it in headlines !!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby hanumadu » 23 Nov 2019 08:49

CRamS wrote:Guys, tell me its fake news or DDM website have been hacked. But I am seeing Fadnavis sworn in as CM. WTF is going?


Modi tweeted congratulations.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ShyamSP » 23 Nov 2019 08:51

NCP :rotfl:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 23 Nov 2019 08:52

NM tweeted congratulations message.

Narendra Modi
@narendramodi
Congratulations to
@Dev_Fadnavis
Ji and
@AjitPawarSpeaks
Ji on taking oath as the CM and Deputy CM of Maharashtra respectively. I am confident they will work diligently for the bright future of Maharashtra.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby abhijitm » 23 Nov 2019 08:54

Holy karaaap!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 23 Nov 2019 08:56

Well, well, boyos.....here you go :D :D :rotfl:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/maharashtra-government-formation-live-updates/liveblog/72152417.cms

Remember, my good self tolded all the things correctly only:

KL Dubey wrote:Enjoying the show, everyone? Thingz seem to be going as my good self predicted...the dorks Uddhavan and Adityan are pretty much standing naked now....caught between the moves of Nana Farnavis Jr. and the wily old Maratha.

I still wager on 'Ram' rajya (prezzie rule)....or maybe a full circle maneuver of Farnavis back in the chair with NCP supporting from outside. This time no room for return of the SS...Shah should declare open season on these dorks. Uddhavan can go back to photography and Adityan should take a job somewhere.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 23 Nov 2019 08:57

Somehow not feeling good about this. I understand need to be in power to get things done, but NCP?? OK, let's hope MH sees continued development.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 23 Nov 2019 08:59

^^Don't you get it ? It was all planned. Totally pure fawking diabolical plan to lead the dorks Uddhav, Aditya, Sanjay Raut etc up the garden path with sweet music....followed by Ganpat Rai treatment. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby SriKumar » 23 Nov 2019 09:01

KL Dubey wrote:Well, well, boyos.....here you go :D :D :rotfl:
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Fo' shizzle ma nizzle, yoo da maan. It's paahty time. Praise da Lord. Hallelujah. :D

RIght now, Shiv Sena is looking mo' like Vaanar Sena ........ with no clue what hit them. :lol:
(Silver lining: INC is shut out).
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sudarshan » 23 Nov 2019 09:02

Pick a saying from the below:

* Left high and dry
* Dumped at the altar
* Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory
* Na ghar ka na ghat ka
* Hung out to dry (on the long rope that they were generously given)

They converted, ***ed naked, got baptized, pulled their MP from the union cabinet, endorsed secularism (dumped their professed age-old agenda), angered their voters, revealed their power-lust for all to see, and all for what?

Dorks is right!

Now somebody please present Uddhav with a set of buck teeth, I think it goes well with his face in general, and especially with the gaping look of dismay that should be adorning it right about now.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby abhijitm » 23 Nov 2019 09:03

UT royally gamed

I am so surprised NCP broke the pre poll alliance with cong. But hey, anything can happen in politics.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby shaun » 23 Nov 2019 09:03

Really above the curve , people here rightly predicted that it's a Bjp Ncp game.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 23 Nov 2019 09:06

SriKumar wrote:For shizzle ma nizzle, yoo da maan. It's paahty time. :D


Damn right, dawg! Yearz of eatin' mama'z collard greenz made dem grey cellz fit as a panthah...

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 23 Nov 2019 09:07

abhijitm wrote:UT royally gamed

I am so surprised NCP broke the pre poll alliance with cong. But hey, anything can happen in politics.


And that is what Nitin Gadkari already said. Uddhav can't complain that he wasn't warned.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 09:10

That is why i waste my time on BRF. What a prediction, Pankajs, KL Dubey take a bow :rotfl:
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 23 Nov 2019 09:11

Rony wrote:That is why i waste my time on BRF. What a prediction, Pankajs, KL Dubey take a bow :rotfl:


Thank you sah, thank you....and gaw'bless you sah.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sudarshan » 23 Nov 2019 09:13

OK Dubey ji, please make your next prediction. How long is UT going to last in the hot seat, before the shell-shocked cadres come to their senses and start baying for his blood?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 23 Nov 2019 09:15

sanjayc wrote:BREAKING NEWS: BJP's Devendra Fadnavis takes oath as Maharashtra Chief Minister at Raj Bhavan, NCP's Ajit Pawar his deputy

a_bharat wrote:Googly. Though there was speculation on this, this was unexpected at this time.

CRamS wrote:Guys, tell me its fake news or DDM website have been hacked. But I am seeing Fadnavis sworn in as CM. WTF is going?

Got this on WhatsApp and I really thought that sender was pulling my leg. This was like 0745Hrs IST. I checked up a very "secular" news paper online and they with gloom & doom did report that it is true.

KL Dubey wrote:Totally pure fawking diabolical plan to lead the dorks Uddhav, Aditya, Sanjay Raut etc up the garden path with sweet music....followed by Ganpat Rai treatment.

Now who ditched who? BJP royally dumped Shiv Sena, and has NCP also asked Medamji to do a quick march to Italy? The Congress too seems to be taken for a ride? Shiv Sena has actually fired all that it had in its armoury, burnt lot of bridges and now regaining all their might is going to take ages. Bashing up Madrassis and Gujju Bhais may be some thing they can perhaps start early (i.e back to their old ways). I am eagerly waiting for Poojaneeya Sanjay Raut-ji to now grace the dais and give some of his gyaan :D.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 23 Nov 2019 09:18

@poster "Sudarshan"

...Or perhaps Uddhav should be worried that there won't be any MLAs and MPs left to bay for his blood at all...maybe a quiet exit from poltoogiri and return to photography ?
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 09:19

Do Uddhav officially joins Laloo, Mulayam, Nitish, Chandrababu naidu, Sonia and Rahul in underestimating Modi and Shah and overestimating themselves and losing everything in the process :)

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 09:25

I dont like NCP but teaching shiva sena (and potential trouble maker allies in future) a lesson is more important . Anyway, Pawar balls are in Modi/Shah hands and they will be tightly controlled. All this was unnecessary had Uddhav had a sense of brain and behaved properly.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 23 Nov 2019 09:26

Like I said back in 2014, Farnavis is being groomed very carefully. Modi and Shah are not going to make him look bad.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 23 Nov 2019 09:27

Anyways, was so dejected when I thought major infra projects such as Mumbai Ah'bad HSR, sea link etc will see massive corruption and delays or even outright cancellations etc. Now they'll be on track.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 23 Nov 2019 09:27

KL Dubey wrote:Like I said back in 2014, Farnavis is being groomed very carefully. Modi and Shah are not going to make him look bad.


Well, bhabi is getting groomed as a singer as well. :lol:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby CRamS » 23 Nov 2019 09:29

Wow, this is one heck of a back stabbing by NCP of Congoon SS thugs' gaands :-).

I hope there is no violence by those who were gaanded.


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