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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby SriKumar » 23 Nov 2019 09:29

Ah thought Amit bro would chill for a year and then do the boogie on da koalishun govt.

Looks like he did not want to wait. After Uddhav, it will be Soniaji with a long face. Both got taken for a ride. Modi...I tell ya. Dont cross (or double-cross) the man. :twisted:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 23 Nov 2019 09:29

Dr Sachin Reddy
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There were two super political brains in this game

Amit Shah and Sharad Pawar

Both can look far into the political future and make tough decisions

And then there were jokers like Uddhav, Raut etc who were playing to lose eitherways

This is pure master strategy!

This

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karthik S » 23 Nov 2019 09:30

SriKumar wrote:Ah thought Amit bro would chill for a year and then do the boogie on da koalishun govt.

Looks like he did not want to wait. After Uddhav, it will be Soniaji with a long face. Both got taken for a ride. Modi...I tell ya. Dont cross (or double-cross) the man. :twisted:


MH is too large and important state to let power go from your hands.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sanju » 23 Nov 2019 09:32

There are messages on my WA that NCP has been split. Don't know the validity of the information. Ajit Pawar has broken away from NCP.

Either way..congrats to Shri. Fadnavis and take a bow Pankaj ji & Dubey ji.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby dipak » 23 Nov 2019 09:32

There was a coffe-spilling moment when I switched on the TV. Couldn't believe my eyes ...Fadanvis and Ajit Pawar taking oath!

Now we can reflect and think. Few of us started to read the Namaz-e-Janaza for AS chanakyanship. While this could happen, as he is also a mere mortal, but something was not feeling right to the above assessment of him. The person (or the team) who scrapped 370 in such an efficient and unpredictable manner, failed to read the MAH situation and couldnt come up with some solution, was not just possible ...there must be something somewhere. Plus, BJP was unusually calm and collected. No hurling back of silly haikus of Sanjay Raut.

When SP met Modi two days back, it occured something cooking but no way to confirm then. Reason for meeting given was farmer's issue. Today, after swearing in and Deputy CM, Ajit Pawar mentioned farmer's issue as the main reason behind NCP came along with BJP to form the govt. That means, SP was fully involved and few channels making rounds of the news that Ajit Pawar revolted and could break NCP is wrong. It was proverbial wily Maratha at his best.

Now, lets thank PK again. He is once again instrumental in giving a seious blow to the credibility of UT and SS.

How is Sanjay Raut must be feeling now ...where is his sher-o-shayari? And what is Samana editorial today? :)

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sanju » 23 Nov 2019 09:36

dipak wrote:There was a coffe-spilling moment when I switched on the TV. Couldn't believe my eyes ...Fadanvis and Ajit Pawar taking oath!

<snip>

How is Sanjay Raut must be feeling now ...where is his sher-o-shayari? And what is Samana editorial today? :)


It will be about the effectiveness of various antacids available in the market.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 23 Nov 2019 09:37

Not to mention that pawarful peoples junior will bring in all the juicy details of what exactly transpired in the "negotiations" between the NCP, mafia queen and the whitewashed tiger cub.

It should be enough to give fresh ammo to the already insightful duo of AS + NM.

Apart from being a totally unexpected coup, it's also a surgical strike deep into the enemy's heartland.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby dipak » 23 Nov 2019 09:43

Now it appears that a month long negotiation of all the three parties was to provide moral justification for BJP aligning with NCP.

If SS can break pre-poll alliance and ready to form govt with NCP and INC, then BJP can do the same with NCP too. Now, SS or the libtards cant complain.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 23 Nov 2019 09:45

dipak wrote:There was a coffe-spilling moment when I switched on the TV. Couldn't believe my eyes ...Fadanvis and Ajit Pawar taking oath!

Now we can reflect and think. Few of us started to read the Namaz-e-Janaza for AS chanakyanship. While this could happen, as he is also a mere mortal, but something was not feeling right to the above assessment of him. The person (or the team) who scrapped 370 in such an efficient and unpredictable manner, failed to read the MAH situation and couldnt come up with some solution, was not just possible ...there must be something somewhere. Plus, BJP was unusually calm and collected. No hurling back of silly haikus of Sanjay Raut.

When SP met Modi two days back, it occured something cooking but no way to confirm then. Reason for meeting given was farmer's issue. Today, after swearing in and Deputy CM, Ajit Pawar mentioned farmer's issue as the main reason behind NCP came along with BJP to form the govt. That means, SP was fully involved and few channels making rounds of the news that Ajit Pawar revolted and could break NCP is wrong. It was proverbial wily Maratha at his best.

Now, lets thank PK again. He is once again instrumental in giving a seious blow to the credibility of UT and SS.

How is Sanjay Raut must be feeling now ...where is his sher-o-shayari? And what is Samana editorial today? :)


TV news saying that during the last 10-15 minutes of the SP NM meeting, they were joined by AS and Nirmala Seetharaman.

These guys run a totally leakproof ship.

One wonders how nitishwa is feeling this fine morning along with his freelancing political assassin henchman prashant kishor who wilfully "consults" with all the BJP's enemies.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby naruto » 23 Nov 2019 09:49

^^^ What is amusing in all this is that the media folks know zilch. That media are reduced to mere jokers than brokers is what is satisfying after 2014.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Aditya_V » 23 Nov 2019 09:51

After Congress said it is willing to go in bed with SS, there is no way the leftists can complain

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 23 Nov 2019 09:52

Whew. Maharashtras tijori is out of INCs hands. This is a very big deal and a big win. SS getting cut to size is icing on the cake. I wont be surprised if the party splits and a new SS emerges with some other guy taking the helm.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 09:54

I have always maintained from the start that this is a BJP/NCP plan to destroy Sena/CON.

BJP was the anvil and Pawar was the hammer.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby abhijitm » 23 Nov 2019 09:54

media is running news based on tweets.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 09:56

Ok. Another twist. Or is this parody account ?


Sharad Pawar
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Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 09:57

abhijitm wrote:media is running news based on tweets.

Shah, along with Sena and CON credibility has also destroyed Piddi Media credibility.

This was chanakyian!

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby abhijitm » 23 Nov 2019 09:58

Raut was pawar's handler all along

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby kvraghav » 23 Nov 2019 09:58

This is all a big game played by BJP, congress and NCP. The bjp did not want to give up the cm chair and did not go to SS. The congress did not want to go with SS but also feared revolt from the local unit. Hence they played along till NCP made the moves. Ahmed Patel meeting gadkari was an indication. The NCP wanted to go with bjp but did not want to look bad by breaking alliance. Hence party was broken under a younger leader. This is the same technique Kumaraswamy used to support bjp.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 09:59

Rony wrote:Ok. Another twist. Or is this parody account ?


Sharad Pawar
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Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.



The account is real. So it looks like

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1. NCP says Sharad Pawar didn’t know.

2. Sharad Pawar says he didn’t know.

3. If this is true, the only possibility is that Amit Shah has broken the NCP from under Sharad Pawar’s nose, convincing nephew to dump uncle. :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 09:59

Rony wrote:Ok. Another twist. Or is this parody account ?


Sharad Pawar
@PawarSpeaks
Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.

Yes .. Devegauda too said something similar when Kumaraswamy joined hands with BJP long back.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby naruto » 23 Nov 2019 10:00

Rony wrote:Ok. Another twist. Or is this parody account ?
Sharad Pawar
@PawarSpeaks

Not a parody account at all. It is certified pawaarful account .

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby SriKumar » 23 Nov 2019 10:05

Talking about clueless media, here's NDTV's article not even 15 hours ago:

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/maharas ... ight-meet-

Maharashtra Government Formation: Uddhav Thackeray and his son Aaditya Thackeray met NCP chief Sharad Pawar late Thursday night.
All India | Reported by Saurabh Gupta, Sunil Prabhu, Edited by Deepshikha Ghosh | Updated: November 22, 2019 18:42 IST

Sources say the Sena chief is under pressure from the NCP and the Congress to take the top post, but he has suggested other names. At a midnight meeting with Uddhav Thackeray and his son Aaditya Thackeray, NCP chief Sharad Pawar had said that there would be consensus in the alliance only if the Sena chief agreed to be chief minister.
...under pressure to be the CM.....bwaahahaaaa

This is the best movie of 2019.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby abhijitm » 23 Nov 2019 10:06

Raut is giving clean chit to SP! this guys is playing his own game with UT.

I remember vaguely many years ago raut took liberty and wrote editorial criticising some thackray's decision. He received lot of protest and forced to say sorry. Why I feel that he is taking his revenge on his earlier boss's son.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 23 Nov 2019 10:08

Sharad Pawar Verified account @PawarSpeaks

Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.

7:57 PM - 22 Nov 2019
:)

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Deans » 23 Nov 2019 10:12

Some implications:
1. SS is finished. They compromised on their core principles for power, which they did not get. They are now just a bunch of street thugs. The winnable candidates will probably defect. DV is probably waiting for street protests to turn violent, so he can arrest some of the SS thugs.
2. Cong is finished in Mah too. Also, SG chose to listen to the local leadership (which wanted the alliance with SS) rather than the coterie. Old guard will call the shots in future, weakening local leaders and RaGa's younger team.
3. Warning to Nitishwa to know his `Aukat' and not do a SS on BJP.
4. Independents will probably do a ghar wapsi, back to BJP.
5. The English media was clueless.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 23 Nov 2019 10:16

Karan M wrote:Whew. Maharashtras tijori is out of INCs hands. This is a very big deal and a big win. SS getting cut to size is icing on the cake. I wont be surprised if the party splits and a new SS emerges with some other guy taking the helm.



They struck at the very last minute, but only when all the credibility
of the congi, NCP and the SS was totally destroyed in the eyes of the voting public.

The SS may split and merge into the BJP because the BJP would not want junior pawarful peoples blackmailing them.

After BT's demise, different power centres have emerged in the SS and factionalism is rampant. UT's hold is at best slightly better than marginal.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 10:26

chetak wrote:
Sharad Pawar Verified account @PawarSpeaks

Ajit Pawar's decision to support the BJP to form the Maharashtra Government is his personal decision and not that of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP).
We place on record that we do not support or endorse this decision of his.

7:57 PM - 22 Nov 2019
:)



ANI
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Sources: NCP Chief Sharad Pawar was part of discussions for Devendra Fadnavis led Maharashtra Govt formation, he had given his assent to Ajit Pawar

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sooraj » 23 Nov 2019 10:32

Raut: At 9 pm Ajit Pawar disappeared from meeting :lol:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby dipak » 23 Nov 2019 10:45

Like DDLJ last scene of the train leaving platform, when SRK held the hand of Kajol - AS too, okayed the declaration this morning culminating the month-old drama, its only AS knows best what length and thickness of the rope to be given to the opponent so that he can hang himself very conveniently, all the while thinking that he is weaving a hammock to enjoy the sweet ride for the next 25 years (SR wanted SS CM for the next 25 years in Mah).

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 10:49

Indian Today Live

1. Yesterdin, NCP elected Ajit Pawar as the leader of NCP legislature.
2. They all signed on a letter of support on government formation where the name of the CM was left blank. :rotfl:
3. The blank was filled in today with with DF's name. :rotfl:

What was the game the?
1.The above was done to prevent any wiff of doubt on the game. Also to prevent dissent within the ranks.
2. BJP/NCP also dragged the whole affair to allow for public revulsion to build up so that when BJP/NCP would then become more palatable.
3. Also allow time for Sena and CON to disrobe publicly on their own.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 23 Nov 2019 10:51

Never trust snake oil salesmen. #Maharashtra lesson


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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 10:53

Rony wrote:That is why i waste my time on BRF. What a prediction, Pankajs, KL Dubey take a bow :rotfl:

Thank you saar!

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 10:58

What exquisite timing!

When all today's Papers carried BOLD headline with UT as the CM on the Front page. :rotfl:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sum » 23 Nov 2019 11:07

pankajs wrote:I have always maintained from the start that this is a BJP/NCP plan to destroy Sena/CON.

BJP was the anvil and Pawar was the hammer.

1000 pranam to you for having this insight from day 1

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rupesh » 23 Nov 2019 11:08

:(( :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:lol: :eek: :rotfl: :roll: :D

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 23 Nov 2019 11:09

sum wrote:
pankajs wrote:I have always maintained from the start that this is a BJP/NCP plan to destroy Sena/CON.

BJP was the anvil and Pawar was the hammer.

1000 pranam to you for having this insight from day 1

Thank you ... :D

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sumeet » 23 Nov 2019 11:09

Wow this is amazing I am so happy. Great work by BJP !!!

Now SS should be broken and good faction should be merged into BJP. This will also help them increase their count in this election. UT and AT have no where to go ... :)


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