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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Kashi » 05 Dec 2019 11:52

Karan M wrote:Basically ba$tards like this Dexter chap won't be happy, till every Hindu is 6 feet under and no sign of the faith or culture remains. There is no poing in engaging with them. Modi & Shah by ignoring Ayyub's lurid propaganda have done themselves and India itself a disservice. They have allowed her to brainwash all these gullible bigots and clearly its an exercise being led by both her and local Indian political parties.


That sounds contradictory. If there's no reasoning with such types then there's no brainwashing isn't it? I means it's coming together of minds that share each other's derision and hatred of the heathen and hence united in a common cause.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 05 Dec 2019 12:51

https://twitter.com/IamIconoclast/statu ... 5937477635
Chintamani @IamIconoclast

#JharkhandElections 13 western constituencies went to polls in the 1st round. Likely split - BJP 5, JMM+ 5, Others 3.

https://twitter.com/savvyasaachi/status ... 1578378240
सव्यसाची -SAVYASACHI @savvyasaachi

BJP will retain power in Karnataka as per the assessment of our team
We expect BJP to get 8-11
6 is ok. 7 is safe
It seems BJP will scrape through in Karnataka.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 05 Dec 2019 13:21

Kashi wrote:
Karan M wrote:Basically ba$tards like this Dexter chap won't be happy, till every Hindu is 6 feet under and no sign of the faith or culture remains. There is no poing in engaging with them. Modi & Shah by ignoring Ayyub's lurid propaganda have done themselves and India itself a disservice. They have allowed her to brainwash all these gullible bigots and clearly its an exercise being led by both her and local Indian political parties.


That sounds contradictory. If there's no reasoning with such types then there's no brainwashing isn't it? I means it's coming together of minds that share each other's derision and hatred of the heathen and hence united in a common cause.


Bigots who had a predilection for being brainwashed and who are now spreading that lurid propaganda to the rest of their crowd. There is a good chance they wouldn't be if the likes of Ayub etc were in jail for slander. However, the fact she, the entire ecosystem is walking around free allows these bigots validation that "look, all these guys are going around saying whatever crap they want, surely I must be right". Even a bigot would have some amount of introspection/caution, but in this case, he threw it to the winds - the entire article is one long polemic wherein he freely interacted with a bunch of folks who think they are teflon and its rubbed off on him.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 05 Dec 2019 13:22

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#SPGBill Between 2004 and 2012, the UPA spent Rs 1,800 crore on protecting members of the Gandhi family,




A burden of Rs 1,800 crore: Do the Gandhis miss feeling like the PM with SPG cover withdrawn?



The timing of the breach:

On Tuesday, the Congress pointed out that there was a security breach at the residence of Priyanka Gandhi Vadra. A breach is a breach and would need to be probed. Shah said that owing to strange coincidence, a breach had taken place. He said that Priyanka’s security personnel were apparently informed that Rahul would be visiting her in a black safari, but instead of him some Congress workers from Meerut came in a similar vehicle and were allowed inside.

Shah however made it clear that three personnel were suspended pending a high-level inquiry. However, media reports later said that these persons belonged to one family and the group posed no threat. They were fans of the Congress leader and one of them had even spoken to Priyanka’s PA. One of them even spoke to her, but she had to leave.

As pointed earlier, a probe is required, but one also has to take into account the timing. First and foremost, the Congress raised this issue six days after the incident. It was raised in the Parliament when the government was tabling the amendment bill.

The BJP’s national IT cell chief, Amit Malviya said that the Congress has lied again, this time on Priyanka Vadra’s security breach, just so that they could target the government for changing Gandhi’s security cover to Z Plus, which is in line with the cover provided to top ministers in the Government of India- Shame.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby kvraghav » 05 Dec 2019 13:30

Karnataka:
BJP will win 7 for sure.

Yeshwantpur
Mahalakshmi Layout
Gokak
Athani
Yellapura
Hirekerur
Vijayanagar(Hospet)

Below 6 are 50:50
Kagawada
Chikkaballapur
KR Puram
Shivajinagar
Hunsur
Hoskote

Certain loss for BJP are 2:
Ranibennur
KR Pet

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 05 Dec 2019 13:39

asked and answered :mrgreen:

CAB causing a lot of itching in many malsi chaddies.


twitter


Ahmadis were in the vanguard of the demand for Pakistan...for them to now make a claim on India after partitioning it & participating in massacres of Sikhs and Hindus is just desserts. And sufis? You mean khadim Husain Rizvi, Sunni tehreek, or that affected gaddi nasheen Qureshi?



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Do you really know nothing of the persecution of the Shias, Ahmadis and Sufis in Pakistan or are you just feigning ignorance?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 05 Dec 2019 13:47

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Muslims persecuting muslims is the latest taqqiyya designed to infiltration of muslims in other areas.. we are seeing this happening all over Europe. even if not, why should India suffer for it, we have already given land to muslims. It is for their society to deal with it.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 05 Dec 2019 14:29

I love the Muslim strategy. First get yourself nice two countries, clean them up of Hindus and then come back and demand room in the parent country.
As every Muslim claims, No Muslim can persecute any other Muslim as Islam is the most loving and the greatest cult in the world. So it is local criminalization of the society, then why should Muslims get any extra sympathy from India. They can do inner Jihad to bring local society at peace. Easy peesy no !

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 05 Dec 2019 18:12

https://twitter.com/horror06/status/1202400191602495488
Indrani Bagchi @horror06

CAB not necessary. If someone applies for asylum/citizenship, state has sovereign right to grant it, or not. We're tying our hands for the future. NRC equally useless, when we already have Aadhaar and Nat Pop Register.

https://twitter.com/KanchanGupta/status ... 2558385153
Kanchan Gupta @KanchanGupta

1. #CAB shortens waiting period and removes anxieties. Please check details.
2. Aadhaar is not a citizenship card. It is for public services. Please check @UIDAI details.
3. NPR would by definition include all populations in #India including short and long term residents.
#NRC

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 05 Dec 2019 18:50

Odd if true. The greasy scholar is conspicuously quiet now

our slipperiest teflon coated PM yet.



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Do you know who demanded change in the citizenship act and said it was our moral obligation to grant citizenship to the minorities in Bangladesh who face persecution there? The demand was raised in Rajya Sabha in December 2003 by the then leader of the opposition Dr Manmohan Singh

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby A_Gupta » 05 Dec 2019 19:09

chetak wrote:
Do you know who demanded change in the citizenship act and said it was our moral obligation to grant citizenship to the minorities in Bangladesh who face persecution there? The demand was raised in Rajya Sabha in December 2003 by the then leader of the opposition Dr Manmohan Singh


Rajya Sabha, 2003-12-18, Manmohan Singh, http://164.100.47.5/newdebate/deb_ndx/2 ... 3/6to7.htm

SHRI SURESH PACHOURI: Madam, Dr. Manmohan Singh wants to say something about the Citizenship (Amendment) Bill.
THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Let Advaniji move the motion, then, I will allow him.
THE CITIZENSHIP (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2003.
THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI L.K. ADVANI): I move:

{snip}

THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN :Dr. Manmohan Singh, do you want to say something?
THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (DR. MANMOHAN SINGH): Madam, I join the hon. Deputy Prime Minister in paying our tribute to the great sense of creativity of Indian diaspora. They have proved, if any proof was needed, that given suitable opportunities, we Indians are second to none. Their knowledge, their wealth, their experience and expertise is a great national reservoir which can be tapped for the benefit of our country. Therefore, we are fully in support of measures to strengthen the emotional link between our country and members of the Indian diaspora.

Indeed, the first steps in this context were taken when our Government was in office in 1995. If I remember correctly, Dr. Singhvi was then the Indian High Commissioner, and I am very happy that those initial efforts have fructified in the form of a Bill, which confers the right of overseas citizenship on people of Indian origin in specified countries. We are fully in support of this measure.

While I am on this subject, Madam, I would like to point out that with regard to the treatment of refugees after the Partition of our country, the minorities in countries like Bangladesh, have faced persecution, and it is our moral obligation that if circumstances force people, these unfortunate people, to seek refuge in our country, our approach to granting citizenship to these unfortunate persons should be more liberal. I sincerely hope that the hon. Deputy Prime Minister will bear this in mind in charting out the future course of action with regard to the Citizenship Act. (Ends)

THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN : Mr. Advani, the minorities in Pakistan are also suffering. They have to be taken care of too.

SHRI L. K. ADVANI : Madam, I fully endorse that view.

SHRI SHANKAR ROY CHOWDHURY (WEST BENGAL) : Madam, I wish to speak on this.

THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN : Nobody is speaking on this. Even Dr. L. M. Singhvi, who was heading this committee, has withdrawn his name.

AN HON. MEMBER : Madam, since he has done so much for the country, he should be allowed to speak.

SHRI SHANKAR ROY CHOWDHURY : Madam, with your indulgence, I would like to convey further what Dr. Manmohan Singh has spoken about refugees. And it is an issue I had taken up with the hon. Deputy Prime Minister. From Bangladesh, we are getting a wide variety of people who are entering into our country illegally, all of them. Some are economic migrants whom you see all over the country, be it Mumbai, Delhi or Calcutta. Some are infiltrators, terrorists. But a large number of them are religious minorities facing persecution, Chakmas, Hindus, Buddhists, many of them. I urge the Government again, through you, Madam -- I earnestly urge the Government -- minorities fleeing Bangladesh for the fear of persecution should be given citizenship and should be treated in a supportive and kind manner. Thank you very much.


continues:

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: Madam, I have taken note of what the Leader of the Opposition and Shri Shankar Roy Chowdhury have said, and I am fully in agreement with the views that they have expressed. Very often, in the past, we have faced this kind of situation when we have adopted an approach of that kind. There were various kinds of allegations made that 'you are making discrimination between this and that' which we do not propose to do. We always say that a person who has to flee because of religious persecution is a refugee, bona fide refugee, and he cannot be regarded on par with the illegal immigrant who may have come for any reason, even for economic reasons. If he is an illegal immigrant, he is an illegal immigrant. So, I take note of what has been said and endorse it....{few sentences, likely in Hindi, for which the font isn't installing correctly on my laptop}

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby CRamS » 05 Dec 2019 20:00

Guys, my take on Dexter Filkin's diatribe against Hindus in the NYorker, with help from his concubine Rana Ayyub:

1. I did not find anything particularly new. Most of the crap he doled out was regurgitated stuff, straight from the colonized Lutyen elite in India. Can anybody point anything new? Even the glossing over of the fundamental issue in Kashmir: Islamic extremism with its nerve center in Rawalpindi is the standard leitmotif of every libtard's worldview.

2. Leaving aside the Hindu hatred, as with all these white 'liberal' honchos, his entire narrative smacked of a colonial attitude: westerners said this, so its got to be true. And in this, he is well aided by colnized slaves in India like Hartosh Singh, Pratap Bhanu etc. Ayybu type chutiyas are downright traitors. She is so well propped up by the Lutyen eco-system that Indian govt can't touch her with a little finger as may here suggest.

3. I was very disappointed that the erudite Sudhanshu Trivedi would sit and eat dinner with that scum bag. This is an issue I have with many RW folks. They really think they have allies in the west who will understand them. No they don't.

4. And a man of Trivedi's erudition ought to have challenged Filkins on the 'love' white west has showered on Muslims. Maybe he should have started with the casual sacrifice of 1000s of Muslim Iraqi men, women, and children to bring democracy through ISIS there. And the orchestraters of that monstrosity: Bush Jr, Blair, Cheney etc are living kushy retired lives sipping scotch whisky in their villas, flying around in the luxurious jets and giving useless moralistic speeches. Instead Trivedi seemed to want to impress Filkins on the glories of RSS. He would had better luck talking to a dead bison.



5. Having lived in US for 30 years now, I can without a shadow of doubt say that 95+% of westerners share Filkin's hatred towards Hindus. And I have relentlessly said this for as long as I have been on BR. The India TSP equal equal stems from this hatred. USA's entire post 9/11 policy was basically a constrained optimization problem: How to eliminate TSP-aided terror that threatens western interests subject to the constraint that TSP will NOT be weakened beyond a point where SDRE Hindus will dominate the region and beyond.


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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Dec 2019 20:13

^^+1 CramS
Also, the casteist narrative is extremely strong. Cong eco system has not helped our cause either..not that BJP is taking focussed actions towards it..but having people like Sjaishankar, Doval is a firm movement...

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KJo » 05 Dec 2019 21:05

To add to that, white people talk about "caste system" and "Manu" more than Hindus do. I had not heard of Manu when I lived in India till age 22. I first pakis talk about Manu Smriti (obviously researched and trained by their local mullah) and then some white people parrot the same lines tutored by their Christian priest.

The emergence of Modi scares the hell out of them because scared cowardly despicable Hindus are waking up, standing up for themselves and make a claim for what is theirs. They don't want a strong confident Hindu and will do anything to prevent that.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sanju » 05 Dec 2019 21:27

Cross Post from the J&K Thread

Twitter Ibn Sina
One of my dream got fulfilled. Thanks to @HMOIndia Shri @AmitShah.

JK Waqf Board abolished, Central Govt brings all #Mosques under its direct control.

Annual income of JKWB was Rs 26 Cr
.

It had under it control
970,071 kanal of land
.

'Time for Mullah's to pack up their bags.'


This is amazing!! Not a peep from the news dalals. This should go under the achievements thread.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nandakumar » 05 Dec 2019 21:29

CRamS wrote:Guys, my take on Dexter Filkin's diatribe against Hindus in the NYorker, with help from his concubine Rana Ayyub:

1. I did not find anything particularly new. Most of the crap he doled out was regurgitated stuff, straight from the colonized Lutyen elite in India. Can anybody point anything new? Even the glossing over of the fundamental issue in Kashmir: Islamic extremism with its nerve center in Rawalpindi is the standard leitmotif of every libtard's worldview.

2. Leaving aside the Hindu hatred, as with all these white 'liberal' honchos, his entire narrative smacked of a colonial attitude: westerners said this, so its got to be true. And in this, he is well aided by colnized slaves in India like Hartosh Singh, Pratap Bhanu etc. Ayybu type chutiyas are downright traitors. She is so well propped up by the Lutyen eco-system that Indian govt can't touch her with a little finger as may here suggest.

3. I was very disappointed that the erudite Sudhanshu Trivedi would sit and eat dinner with that scum bag. This is an issue I have with many RW folks. They really think they have allies in the west who will understand them. No they don't.

4. And a man of Trivedi's erudition ought to have challenged Filkins on the 'love' white west has showered on Muslims. Maybe he should have started with the casual sacrifice of 1000s of Muslim Iraqi men, women, and children to bring democracy through ISIS there. And the orchestraters of that monstrosity: Bush Jr, Blair, Cheney etc are living kushy retired lives sipping scotch whisky in their villas, flying around in the luxurious jets and giving useless moralistic speeches. Instead Trivedi seemed to want to impress Filkins on the glories of RSS. He would had better luck talking to a dead bison.



5. Having lived in US for 30 years now, I can without a shadow of doubt say that 95+% of westerners share Filkin's hatred towards Hindus. And I have relentlessly said this for as long as I have been on BR. The India TSP equal equal stems from this hatred. USA's entire post 9/11 policy was basically a constrained optimization problem: How to eliminate TSP-aided terror that threatens western interests subject to the constraint that TSP will NOT be weakened beyond a point where SDRE Hindus will dominate the region and beyond.


Trivedi with his erudition might have challenged Filkins assertion over dinner. We don't know. But the latter might well have chosen to ignore it for all we know.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 05 Dec 2019 21:37

Goes to prove that it's not about lack laws.

Uttar Pradesh: Rape survivor set on fire by her out-on-bail rapists in Unnao, victim suffers 90% burn
https://www.opindia.com/2019/12/unnao-u ... raebareli/

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 05 Dec 2019 22:04

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/k ... wer-113552
Karnataka byepolls: Exit polls predict BJP will continue in power
Four exit polls predict that the BJP will win at least nine seats or more.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 376257.cms
65.74% voter turnout recorded in 15 assembly seats.
Decent performance on a reasonable turnout.

https://www.firstpost.com/politics/karn ... 44731.html
Karnataka bypolls: Siddaramaiah claims BJP has no 'moral grounds' to stay in power, accuses it of destroying democracy

Seems aSidda jee has already accepted defeat.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 05 Dec 2019 22:13

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1202338282190729217
ANI @ANI

Ex-PM Manmohan Singh: When the sad event of '84 took place, IK Gujral ji went to the then HM PV Narasimha Rao&told him,situation is so grave that it's necessary for govt to call Army at the earliest. If that advice had been heeded perhaps '84 massacre could've been avoided.(4.12)

Munna mohan jee, in service of the queen, shifted the blame from the king to PVNR. This is how real history is whitewashed by a durbari and bogus narrative is created.

https://twitter.com/CNNnews18/status/12 ... 3553997825
News18 @CNNnews18

#BREAKING – Former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh refuses to clarify his statement on the 1984 massacre.

CNN-News18’s questions Manmohan Singh on his 1984 comment.
Madam has to be kept happy even at the cost of backstabbing his mentor.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sanjayc » 05 Dec 2019 22:32

KJo wrote:To add to that, white people talk about "caste system" and "Manu" more than Hindus do. I had not heard of Manu when I lived in India till age 22. I first pakis talk about Manu Smriti (obviously researched and trained by their local mullah) and then some white people parrot the same lines tutored by their Christian priest.


You will also notice that they never talk about Gita, Vedas, Upanishads or the six systems of Hindu philosophy. They restrict all talk about Hinduism to Manu and caste. It is just a debating trick which revolves around hurling accusations at the opponent while steering clear of his strong areas. This can be nullified by mirror response (start hurling accusations yourself). So when they start talking about caste, I start talking about slavery in the Bible and how monotheistic faiths treat non-believers as untouchables

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 05 Dec 2019 23:19

Coupta ji doing what he does best ... spreading FUD ..

https://twitter.com/ShekharGupta/status ... 0565004288
Shekhar Gupta @ShekharGupta

CAB-NRC story controversy is contrived to polarise. If somebody is already a citizen, she can’t be denied under Art 14. For a migrant, issue of cut-off year comes in. In Assam 1971 came from Rajiv-AASU/AAGSP accord. Any cut-off for rest of India is arbitrary & unsustainable.

1. Arbitrary? Kyun bhai .. Free population movement was allowed till 1965, IIRC. That could be a good date. It could be as early as the promulgation of the constitution i.e. Jan 26th, 1950. Problem kya hai? Both are logical dates.

2. "Unsustainable" ka kya matlab hai? He seems to be batting for the infiltrators as only they have to worry.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vera_k » 05 Dec 2019 23:38

IMO, not ideal to pursue NRC when Aadhar is being rolled out. All attention should be on economic issues.

Aadhar is starting to be a paper chase bar none in itself, so what is the point in introducing another hurdle that can be used to add friction.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vishvak » 06 Dec 2019 00:00

They restrict all talk about Hinduism to Manu and caste. It is just a debating trick which revolves around hurling accusations at the opponent while steering clear of his strong areas. This can be nullified by mirror response

People don't know much abt Manu etc and therefore it's simpler rather than actual debating anything. Hurling accusations will make it dumber while they will pick up pieces and present ideas as their own.

The dumb and dumber kind of shythole is what makes other options 'apparently' attractive. We should just take a pause and observe vocally the mentality of colonizing, ignoring slavery, etc.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KJo » 06 Dec 2019 04:53

I am not sure where to put this but just wanted to pass on some ammo to the Yindoo nationalists here. With all the rape news, there may be pakis, goras etc taunting, so here is something to throw back at them.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countr ... y-country/

India is No 93 in the list in rapes per 100,000 of population. South Africa is No 1, but no one talks about them being Rapistan, easy to judge why, we are "heathens" they are not.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nachiket » 06 Dec 2019 05:01

^^Another thing to note in that report is the list of countries they don't seem to have any data for. UKstan is in that list, in the august company of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia and China.

Also, this part
Only 9% of rapists in the US get prosecuted and only 3% of rapists will spend a day in prison. 97% of rapists in the United States will walk free.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby IndraD » 06 Dec 2019 05:13

Ajit Pawar given clean chit in Irrigation scam. Today ACB filed affidavit in Bombay HC's Nagpur bench stating there won't be any criminal investigation into it https://maharashtratimes.indiatimes.com ... n=mtmobile

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby IndraD » 06 Dec 2019 05:14

Setback for Shiv Sena-Cong in Bhiwandi mayor polls, 18 Cong corporators vote for BJP
https://m.republicworld.com/india-news/ ... polls.html

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 06 Dec 2019 10:58

nachiket wrote:^^Another thing to note in that report is the list of countries they don't seem to have any data for. UKstan is in that list, in the august company of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia and China.

Also, this part
Only 9% of rapists in the US get prosecuted and only 3% of rapists will spend a day in prison. 97% of rapists in the United States will walk free.


Sometimes it's a little different in heathen India :mrgreen:


Hyderabad Vet Rape And Murder Case: All Four Accused Killed In Encounter By Telangana Police

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vayutuvan » 06 Dec 2019 11:06

sorry to say but I am not at all happy with this 'encounter' drama. all four accused were from desperately poor families. are they below the law/due process where as people like Rana Ayyub go scot free even when they have committed treason?!!!

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Postby Vikas » 06 Dec 2019 11:44

Vayutuvan wrote:sorry to say but I am not at all happy with this 'encounter' drama. all four accused were from desperately poor families. are they below the law/due process where as people like Rana Ayyub go scot free even when they have committed treason?!!!


Sometimes people are sacrificed to pacify the God called Public Indignation. Anyways no rich person ever was encountered after getting arrested. Meanwhile UP police has taken note of 'How to reconstruct crime scene at 2:00 am'.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 06 Dec 2019 12:26

Vayutuvan wrote:sorry to say but I am not at all happy with this 'encounter' drama. all four accused were from desperately poor families. are they below the law/due process where as people like Rana Ayyub go scot free even when they have committed treason?!!!


No offence, but this business of bringing up poverty when some criminal gets into trouble is what goes into this mess in the first place. The action should be considered troubling in that it was vigilante justice, not merely because the accused were from poor families, because that line of argumentation is what has been used for 70 years to allow rampant criminality to flourish. And everytime the axe starts falling, we intercede citing poverty as versus a breakdown in society's moral standards.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 06 Dec 2019 12:28

Vikas wrote:
Vayutuvan wrote:sorry to say but I am not at all happy with this 'encounter' drama. all four accused were from desperately poor families. are they below the law/due process where as people like Rana Ayyub go scot free even when they have committed treason?!!!


Sometimes people are sacrificed to pacify the God called Public Indignation. Anyways no rich person ever was encountered after getting arrested. Meanwhile UP police has taken note of 'How to reconstruct crime scene at 2:00 am'.


Rich people get sent to jail if the media gets involved and muddle class starts baying, they stay there for a few months, years, then disappear from public view once bail is granted. To make one truly teflon, you need to be from the powerful elite, richness can be secondary.


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Postby chetak » 06 Dec 2019 13:52

This is a political as well as a national security issue.

This cro magnon creature is clearly part of the BIF



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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 06 Dec 2019 13:59

Karan M wrote:
Vikas wrote:
Sometimes people are sacrificed to pacify the God called Public Indignation. Anyways no rich person ever was encountered after getting arrested. Meanwhile UP police has taken note of 'How to reconstruct crime scene at 2:00 am'.


Rich people get sent to jail if the media gets involved and muddle class starts baying, they stay there for a few months, years, then disappear from public view once bail is granted. To make one truly teflon, you need to be from the powerful elite, richness can be secondary.


Very true. Elites everywhere get the same kids glove treatment while middle class makes noise.
As much as some of us (including me) feel dismayed by 'Encounter", even cops are humans and would have felt disgust for the perpetrators of rape and horrible murder.
Few more encounters like this would deter potential criminals more than all the apps, candle march , laws and sub sections in IPC.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 06 Dec 2019 14:00

You know why they're doing this?

Because despite all their heavy-handed, one-sided, blatantly biased censorship, the left is still losing the debate because we point out their hypocrisy.




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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 06 Dec 2019 14:42

Vikas wrote:
Vayutuvan wrote:sorry to say but I am not at all happy with this 'encounter' drama. all four accused were from desperately poor families. are they below the law/due process where as people like Rana Ayyub go scot free even when they have committed treason?!!!


Sometimes people are sacrificed to pacify the God called Public Indignation. Anyways no rich person ever was encountered after getting arrested. Meanwhile UP police has taken note of 'How to reconstruct crime scene at 2:00 am'.



general question :)

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Do you support handover of lift-man Tarun Tejpal to Hyderabad cops?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 06 Dec 2019 15:45

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first Setback for #MAHAVIKASAghadi Despite majority, Congress loses mayoral poll in Bhiwandi Municipality

KVA-BJP nominee Pratibha Vilas Patil was elected Mayor on due to cross-voting

In a house of 90

Congress 47
BJP 20
Shiv SENA 12
KVA 9
Samajwadi 2
KVA BJP got 49
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sumeet » 06 Dec 2019 16:03

sanjayc wrote:
KJo wrote:To add to that, white people talk about "caste system" and "Manu" more than Hindus do. I had not heard of Manu when I lived in India till age 22. I first pakis talk about Manu Smriti (obviously researched and trained by their local mullah) and then some white people parrot the same lines tutored by their Christian priest.


You will also notice that they never talk about Gita, Vedas, Upanishads or the six systems of Hindu philosophy. They restrict all talk about Hinduism to Manu and caste. It is just a debating trick which revolves around hurling accusations at the opponent while steering clear of his strong areas. This can be nullified by mirror response (start hurling accusations yourself). So when they start talking about caste, I start talking about slavery in the Bible and how monotheistic faiths treat non-believers as untouchables


That is good but the reason they don't talk much about Gita, Vedas, Upanisads, Mahabharata, 'Vedanta Sutra, Sad Darsana etc is because a lot of Indian folks don't have first hand knowledge of these scriptures. At the best most have heard it from their grandparents or (likely perverse) interpretation of some elite scholar.

One thing that keeps away folks from getting their kids involved in scriptural study is due to common (mis)understanding that moksha is achieved via Sannyasa and Tapsya. All the hindu serials would show men going to remote locations standing on one feet etc and trying to please some god of their choosing. That hardly sets a good example for common man.

I recall your twitter exchange with Fair didi (if i remember correctly) on how all religions talk about supremacy and truth of their God only (and as a consequence other Gods become false). When you pointed out that when does Hinduism does that she changed the topic.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 06 Dec 2019 17:59

darshan wrote:‘Nobody Visited Us’: Family, Neighbours Of Dalit Woman Gangraped And Killed In Telangana Appeal For Justice
https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/nobo ... or-justice
While three accused have been arrested in the case and reportedly confessed to their crime, the victim’s family says the police is refusing to give them her post-mortem report that could reveal disturbing details. The case has also seen little coverage in the media.
A report by news portal The News Minute says that as per the police, the accused - Shaik Babu (35), Shaik Shaboddin (30) and Shaik Makdum (40) - have confessed to the rape and murder. Police have booked them for murder and rape along with the SC/ST Prevention of Atrocities Act. The three have been remanded to judicial custody.

Will there be any early morning crime reconstruction for this case?


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