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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby yensoy » 17 Aug 2019 12:22

manjgu wrote:while i like Akbaruddins twinkling of eyes and mischievious smile i think he should have hammered the following points 1) how Paki army scuttled UN resolutions by not implementing point a and b of the resolutions due to which it is now defunct. b) how paki army inspired/funded/trained terrorists did ethnic cleansing of hindus from kashmir 3) how pakistan army has ethnically cleansed Pakistan of its minorities 4) how pakistan army gave up part of indian kashmir to chinese 5) how it altered the demographics of POK 5) gave safe havens to terrorists from all over the world including OBL . should have rubbed the bloody bastars into the ground.


Rule number 1 in diplomacy is you never bring in points extraneous to the question raised. Such rejoinders may have the effect of derailing the discussion, or worse, for follow-up questioning which can take a life of its own and conclusions which are not in your favour. Best to stick to the specific argument to refuse the question asked, and you have rehearsed.

Today's Paki papers (all of them) are full of spin. Even the whole Paki cricket team can't spin as much. Gist of discussion:

Pak: I am sick, I can't come in to work
India: You aren't sick, get your ass in to work today
Pak: I am sick, I will prove it with a doctor certificate
(makes an appointment with doctor)
Doctor: Paki, you aren't sick. Go to work, don't waste my time. No doctor certificate. Nothing wrong with you, I am not even going to note it in your report.
(Paki returns from doctor)
Paki: See, I am sick. I even went to the doctor. Doesn't it show that I am sick?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 17 Aug 2019 12:45

Down know how true this is.

https://twitter.com/5Forty3/status/1162321094105153536
Dr Praveen Patil @5Forty3

"Entire Kashmir valley has been broken down into small easily governable blocks, quarantined from each other... This is an unprecedented and highly sophisticated approach by New Delhi, very difficult to breach" - admits a "azaadi" sympathetic Kashmir strategist!

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 17 Aug 2019 12:49

Shah Faisal was on his way to ICJ per Jagran Hindi

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https://m.jagran.com/lite/jammu-and-kas ... 92464.html
Navroop Singh @NavroopSingh_

Though individuals can not file case against Countries at ICJ yet Faisal cud have rallied support and become a tool for Pakistan for its ill concieved petition against India by giving testimonials, collecting doctored witness accounts inside Valley. Another Useful Idiot !!!

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 17 Aug 2019 12:54

https://www.dawn.com/news/1499969/promi ... n-and-kept
Once a paki always a paki
Here is the phamous iscientist showing the pakiness
:((

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 17 Aug 2019 12:54

twitter

Seven decades back both India and Pakistan got independence

Indians have become CEOs of Google, Microsoft, HCL, Pepsico, Jaguar, Land Rover and many more, however

Pakistani have become heads of Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Jammat U Dawa, Hijbul Mujahideen
What a contrast......

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby yensoy » 17 Aug 2019 13:19

Rsatchi wrote:https://www.dawn.com/news/1499969/promises-broken-and-kept
Once a paki always a paki
Here is the phamous iscientist showing the pakiness
:((


Not really. His is a desperate plea to the Paki authorities to focus on Pakistan and give up on Kashmir. Please read the article with an open mind. There is sarcasm dripping there, e.g. instead of the annual Kashmir Day (Feb 5) make total national shutdowns biannual or perhaps even monthly; bring still more energetic speakers like Zaid Hamid on to TV screens; start morning school assemblies with pledges to liberate Kashmir; etc.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sanju » 17 Aug 2019 14:17

SocMed says that the situation on the border is warlike.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sandrokottos » 17 Aug 2019 14:47

^Sucks for pakis then, they will get hammed into the stone age along the border. I remember how they don't build bunkers for the civilians, unlike on this side of the border. This is the case even where most of the civilians are ex-army families. Pakis turn even their own soldiers into suckers.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 17 Aug 2019 14:49

The UN resolutions are no longer relevant. So why go over them again?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sanju » 17 Aug 2019 14:52

Sandrokottos wrote:^Sucks for pakis then, they will get hammed into the stone age along the border. I remember how they don't build bunkers for the civilians, unlike on this side of the border. This is the case even where most of the civilians are ex-army families. Pakis turn even their own soldiers into suckers.


They created some civilian bunkers and guess what happens in there? Pa^is being Pa^is, they rape womenfolk and young children/girls in the darkness of the bunker. Everyone is aware of what is happening but, no one wants to lose face and not be able to get married.

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Postby UlanBatori » 17 Aug 2019 15:18

chetak wrote:
IndraD wrote:https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/un-security-council-meeting-on-kashmir-stop-terror-to-start-talks-india-tells-pakistan/article29113302.ece
it appears except China no one came against India


china basically came out for itself.

their self interest is much more evident than any genuine concern for the paki.


There are 3 main reasons for China seeking to keep the UNSC tamasha more secret than the Internet ban in J&K:
1. Xinjiang-Gobi (many Uighurs are now Lifelong Residents of Gobi Le-Education Centel)
2. Hong Kong : they are busy screaming that "Intervention in Hong Kong Will **NOT** BE LIKE TIANAN MEN SQUARE" :rotfl:
3. Tibet.

Had they demanded an Open UNSC tamasha, UQ-UQ might have grabbed the chance to hammer Cheen on all 3.
So the whole thing was :rotfl: for 4 of the 5, plus the other 10, and :(( :oops: for cheen. Net Egg Foo Yong On Face. And of course they will extract the price from Terroristan. :evil:

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Postby UlanBatori » 17 Aug 2019 15:20

chetak wrote:
IndraD wrote:https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/un-security-council-meeting-on-kashmir-stop-terror-to-start-talks-india-tells-pakistan/article29113302.ece
it appears except China no one came against India


china basically came out for itself.

their self interest is much more evident than any genuine concern for the paki.


There are 3 main reasons for China seeking to keep the UNSC tamasha more secret than the Internet ban in J&K:
1. Xinjiang-Gobi (many Uighurs are now Lifelong Residents of Gobi Le-Education Centel)
2. Hong Kong-Gobi : they are busy screaming that "Intervention in Hong Kong Will **NOT** BE LIKE TIANAN MEN SQUARE" :rotfl:
3. Tibet-Gobi.

I think MAD gamed the Internet Ban etc (plus the shift to the UP Reflection & Rest Centers) with due thought.

Had they demanded an Open UNSC tamasha, UQ-UQ might have grabbed the chance to hammer Cheen on all 3.
So the whole thing was :rotfl: for 4 of the 5, plus the other 10, and :(( :oops: for cheen. Net Egg Foo Yong On Face. And of course they will extract the price from Terroristan. :evil:

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sandrokottos » 17 Aug 2019 15:22

Sanju wrote:They created some civilian bunkers and guess what happens in there? Pa^is being Pa^is, they rape womenfolk and young children/girls in the darkness of the bunker. Everyone is aware of what is happening but, no one wants to lose face and not be able to get married.


For real!!! :shock: I know I shouldn't be surprised, but pakis can always surprise one with their pakiness. Any links to news or something? Just out of morbid curiosity.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 17 Aug 2019 15:45

Sandrokottos wrote:
Sanju wrote:They created some civilian bunkers and guess what happens in there? Pa^is being Pa^is, they rape womenfolk and young children/girls in the darkness of the bunker. Everyone is aware of what is happening but, no one wants to lose face and not be able to get married.


For real!!! :shock: I know I shouldn't be surprised, but pakis can always surprise one with their pakiness. Any links to news or something? Just out of morbid curiosity.

There is a YouTube video of women complaining about these activities and young men bragging
They use a specific phrase for such liaisons
Will search for video :shock: :shock:

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Postby abhijitm » 17 Aug 2019 15:57

So british supported pak and china in UNSC!?

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Postby pankajs » 17 Aug 2019 15:59

I have always maintained that the Britshit are more dangerous (Plotting and scheming) than the Americans. They still consider themselves as the key player in the sub-continent.

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India Today
Published on Aug 16, 2019
The phone lines and internet services have been resumed in Jammu and Kashmir after the curb lasted almost two weeks.
KV residents can watch born again.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 17 Aug 2019 16:08

pankajs wrote:I have always maintained that the Britshit are more dangerous (Plotting and scheming) than the Americans. They still consider themselves as the key player in the sub-continent.


they have their decades' old conversion racket NGO tentacles insidiously spread out in India, they are heavily represented in the lootyens mafia via the oxfam and presstitute gang and they have their claws dug well into the paki equivalent of lootyens too.


we need to cut this destructive and decaying umbilical cord that has existed only to harm us

these guys were also in the mafia queen's NAC and over the years have slyly got some toxic legislation passed in the Indian parliament like the RTE for example.

The words socialist and secular were thrust into the Indian constitution via a much weakened IG by these very guys using the commies as a catspaw.

much of their colonial political and admin networks as well as their colonial police and judicial institutions specifically set up to suppress and overpower the natives are active even today.

some of the shahibs are brownskinned now but almost all are still very much macaulayized even today, kowtowing to the oxbridge inspired culture.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sanju » 17 Aug 2019 16:16

Sandrokottos wrote:
Sanju wrote:They created some civilian bunkers and guess what happens in there? Pa^is being Pa^is, they rape womenfolk and young children/girls in the darkness of the bunker. Everyone is aware of what is happening but, no one wants to lose face and not be able to get married.


For real!!! :shock: I know I shouldn't be surprised, but pakis can always surprise one with their pakiness. Any links to news or something? Just out of morbid curiosity.


Business Standard

Quoting a Dawn report as a syndicated feed.

The term used by the naMard is setting.

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Postby Bart S » 17 Aug 2019 16:18

Rsatchi wrote:
Sandrokottos wrote:
For real!!! :shock: I know I shouldn't be surprised, but pakis can always surprise one with their pakiness. Any links to news or something? Just out of morbid curiosity.

There is a YouTube video of women complaining about these activities and young men bragging
They use a specific phrase for such liaisons
Will search for video :shock: :shock:


https://www.asianage.com/india/all-indi ... nkers.html

https://www.dawn.com/news/1472015

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Postby Sonugn » 17 Aug 2019 16:27

chetak wrote:
pankajs wrote:I have always maintained that the Britshit are more dangerous (Plotting and scheming) than the Americans. They still consider themselves as the key player in the sub-continent.


they have their decades' old conversion racket NGO tentacles insidiously spread out in India, they are heavily represented in the lootyens mafia via the oxfam and presstitute gang and they have their claws dug well into the paki equivalent of lootyens too.


we need to cut this destructive and decaying umbilical cord that has existed only to harm us

these guys were also in the mafia queen's NAC and over the years have slyly got some toxic legislation passed in the Indian parliament like the RTE for example.

The words socialist and secular were thrust into the Indian constitution via a much weakened IG by these very guys using the commies as a catspaw.

much of their colonial political and admin networks as well as their colonial police and judicial institutions specifically set up to suppress and overpower the natives are active even today.

some of the shahibs are brownskinned now but almost all are still very much macaulayized even today, kowtowing to the oxbridge inspired culture.

Deplorable ‘journalists’ further Pakistan propaganda and undermine India: Why should their patriotism not be questioned
Some recent examples of the darbari jhollachap type articles....

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Postby g.sarkar » 17 Aug 2019 16:31

https://www.rediff.com/news/column/chin ... 190817.htm
China's UNSC gamble is a setback to relations with India
August 17, 2019 14:22 IST
'China's bona fides in moving the UNSC are suspect and based on protecting its gobbled-up Kashmir territories.
'It is not clear whether China's current move will be extended to its logical conclusion -- that of moving a new UNSC resolution on Kashmir.
'India needs to closely monitor the discussions at the UNSC and make counter-measures as this touches its core interests', points out Srikanth Kondapalli.
In a significant escalation in relations with India, China had asked for "closed door consultations" at the United Nations Security Council on the Kashmir issue at the behest of its "all weather strategic partner" Pakistan even though the chair of the council, Polish ambassador Joanna Wronecka, rejected the move initially suggesting that this issue has to be resolved at the bilateral level.
This is despite the assurances of visiting foreign minister S Jaishankar's that the revocation of the temporary Article 370 and reorganisation of Jammu and Kashmir state does not involve any "extra territorial claims" nor a change in status quo on the Line of Control with Pakistan or the Line of Actual Control with China. Earlier, Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale briefed China's ambassador, along with the other P5 ambassadors, on the Indian Parliament's action in this regard. China clearly is following what it had stated when Pakistan foreign minister Qureshi visited Beijing on August 9. Wang stated: "The Kashmir issue is a dispute left from the colonial history. It should be properly and peacefully resolved based on the UN Charter, relevant UN Security Council resolutions and bilateral agreement".
While any discussion behind closed doors at the UNSC will be to first see whether the China-Pakistan query on Kashmir has any merit for further discussions, the Kashmir issue was discussed last time at the UN in 1998 when China, backed by the United States, passed the 1172 resolution criticising the nuclear tests. Earlier, it came up during the Bangladesh Liberation War in 1971 and in 1948 in resolution number 47.
In 1948, the People's Republic of China was not yet formed and the Republic of China (shifted to Taiwan in 1949) was a party to the resolution.
The April 21, 1948, UNSC resolution had put a caveat before any plebiscite in the valley -- "To secure the withdrawal from the state of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and Pakistani nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the state for the purposes of fighting, and to prevent any intrusion into the state of such elements and any furnishing of material aid to those fighting in the state". Pakistan never withdrew these intruders into Kashmir and on the top of it has been occupying major portions of Kashmir -- some of which (about 19,000 square kilometres) it transferred to China.
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Postby syam » 17 Aug 2019 16:34

So the whole thing came to logical conclusion.

us and french votes are hard earned in recent years. russia being neutral is more than what we can bargain for. It's no longer Soviet Union. We better put our expectations low with them. They have to do all monkey balancing.
Uk and china are most anti-indian. We all expected china to do something. But uk surprised most of us.

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Postby Aditya_V » 17 Aug 2019 16:49

syam wrote:So the whole thing came to logical conclusion.

us and french votes are hard earned in recent years. russia being neutral is more than what we can bargain for. It's no longer Soviet Union. We better put our expectations low with them. They have to do all monkey balancing.
Uk and china are most anti-indian. We all expected china to do something. But uk surprised most of us.


Pleasantly surprised by US behavior but disgusted with UK govt, perhaps US State Dept and officials during the cold war were looking at India through glasses put on by the UK, perhaps this can explain the Institutionalized Anti Indian ism in a country with which we share many values with.

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Postby yensoy » 17 Aug 2019 16:54

syam wrote:But uk surprised most of us.


We should never be surprised by UK. After all, this whole problem of Kashmir and Pakistan was their parting gift to us. Regardless of what has happened in the past 75 years, their attitude and approach towards us hasn't changed one bit. They may come to their senses when they start seeing shahria ghettos in their midst, and they face economic collapse, but it is still far from guaranteed.

France and US are victories worth celebrating. Russia is doing things to stay relevant only, let's not take it with any animosity; at the same time their loyalty will need to be purchased with more weapons orders. In that sense, they are honest - whoever pays the most will get their vote.

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Postby Aditya_V » 17 Aug 2019 16:58

I am sorry , I think we have supported the Russians enough in the last 28 years, Pakistan will be more than happy to rain Chechens, ISIS in CIS states etc. Pakistan is not a state which they should be supporting.

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Postby vijayk » 17 Aug 2019 17:24

http://vinodksharma.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... d.html?m=1
Written in 2011. What an insight?

Please share it around. Call Congress as ISI Congress and gandoo family as jihadi gandhis

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby syam » 17 Aug 2019 17:25

It's mostly pro-us posters who are claiming that russians supported pakis. We atleast observed how their mo works for some time. putin makes a pro-indian decision and their media goes entirely in different direction. It's very confusing to know who is doing what. Our best bet is going with what actions tell us.
they definitely didn't go against india. if they had gone, we would be seeing headlines all over the place. On the paper, they atleast put good words for us. They are not funding any anti-indian stuff at the moment. that's more than enough for me. We should be careful in future though. No one likes surprises.

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Postby vijayk » 17 Aug 2019 18:22

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Ashokk » 17 Aug 2019 18:30

J&K: Indian Army hits Pak post opposite Rajouri sector
NEW DELHI: A Pakistani post opposite Rajouri sector in Jammu Kashmir was hit in action by Indian Army on Saturday.
Army sources said the exchange of fire between the two sides is still on after Pakistan violated ceasefire.
One Indian Army soldier was martyred this morning in Pakistani firing in Rajouri.
The deceased soldier was identified as Lance Naik Sandeep Thapa.
Indian Army during the intervening night of Thursday-Friday had foiled multiple infiltration attempts by terrorists backed by the Pakistani Army.
Army sources had told ANI on Friday that to push terrorists from multiple points inside Indian territory, Pakistan has activated a major communication hub in Kali Ghati area near Neelam Valley in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) to facilitate terrorists trying to infiltrate.

The communication hub with a range of 50-60 kilometres, allows terrorists to communicate with their guides even across the LoC.
Indian Army positions on the Line of Control have been alerted to prevent any misadventure by Pakistan Army.

On Thursday, Northern Army Commander Lt Gen Ranbir Singh had said that Pakistan was trying to push in infiltrators in last few days.
The developments come in the wake of Central government's decision to scrap Article 370 which gave special status to Jammu Kashmir.

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Postby IndraD » 17 Aug 2019 18:55

Reputed British medical journal The Lancet with HO in NY & Beijing has taken Kashmir issue to its editorial :shock:
https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/11 ... 96224?s=20
Editorial: "PM Narendra Modi vows that his decision to revoke autonomy will bring prosperity to #Kashmir. But first, the people of Kashmir need healing from the deep wounds of this decades-old conflict, not subjugation to further violence & alienation." https://hubs.ly/H0kj2f80

In the past they dared to comment on Palestine issue , but had to lick wound after US intervened. When a medicine seminar was held in Tel Aviv , editorial board profusely apologised to Israel

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Guddu » 17 Aug 2019 19:02

Mods: Do we need a new thread on the feasibility of taking back POK. Seems to me, now is a good time to start the thread...

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Postby khan » 17 Aug 2019 20:39

syam wrote:It's mostly pro-us posters who are claiming that russians supported pakis. We atleast observed how their mo works for some time. putin makes a pro-indian decision and their media goes entirely in different direction. It's very confusing to know who is doing what. Our best bet is going with what actions tell us.
they definitely didn't go against india. if they had gone, we would be seeing headlines all over the place. On the paper, they atleast put good words for us. They are not funding any anti-indian stuff at the moment. that's more than enough for me. We should be careful in future though. No one likes surprises.


This is how the wire is reporting how the Russians played both sides:
Russia’s position

While Pakistan had the strong diplomatic firepower of China in its corner, it was also reaching out to other countries, including an old Indian friend.

On August 14, Pakistan foreign minister S.M. Qureshi called up Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov. The press release from Moscow said that Lavrov advocated for a bilateral solution.

Sources told The Wire that the Russians had informed the Indian side that Lavrov told Qureshi that they were opposed to an open meeting. But, as China had requested, they didn’t oppose the closed-door informal consultations, Russians conveyed.

Behind the scenes, the Russians were under pressure from China. A diplomatic source from a UNSC member state claimed that despite public statements, Russia had also supported China’s open meeting at New York. However, multiple Indian officials were adamant that Moscow hadn’t gone against its words.

Nonetheless, Russia’s recent embrace of China had triggered a niggle of worry among Indian diplomatic practitioners.

On Friday morning in New York, Russia’s first deputy permanent representative to UN, Dmitry Polyanskiy posted a tweet and told reporters that the Kashmir question should be addressed bilaterally.

But it was his follow-up tweet that raised eyebrows. He said that the Kashmir dispute should be resolved as per the 1972 Shimla agreement and Lahore Declaration, but also referred to the UN Charter and “relevant UN resolutions”.

Russia has not mentioned about “relevant UN resolutions” when talking about Kashmir this week, or 16 years earlier. Rather, any allusion to UN resolutions in the same sentence as Kashmir is radioactive for India, since it believes that Shimla agreement supersedes previous legal pacts. Pakistan and China have always cited UN resolutions from the 1940s as the basis for solving Kashmir dispute.

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Inside the closed room at the UN headquarters, Russia did not spring any surprise but batted for India to oppose China’s proposal for a public statement. Informed observers speculated that Russia may have leaned towards China earlier, but changed its mind after seeing Beijing’s lack of support.

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Indian officials stated that three countries had actively blocked China’s plans during the one hour and 15 minutes of discussions on Friday – US, France and Russia.



The bottom-line is Russia is no longer India’s reliable partner in the UN, they are just allies of convenience. Indian diplomats will obviously try to downplay any rifts because they understandably don’t want to highlight this & show weakness, but this sudden hesitation by the Russians is a reality & needs to be factored in by strategic minds.

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J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Peregrine » 17 Aug 2019 20:45

A feeble reaction of Muslim Ummah on Kashmir situation – Sabir Shah
LAHORE: Though Pakistani Premier Imran Khan and a few of his cabinet colleagues are vying hectically to muster global support following the Indian move to abrogate Article 370 of its Constitution for Jammu & Kashmir, the responses and reactions received from the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and the Muslim nations individually are rather weak.
The nearly 50-year-old OIC, which had behaved like a mere spectator when Israel had annexed the Golan Heights in the closing stages of the 1967 Six-Day War to the sheer dismay of the Palestinians, has issued few statements studded with diplomatic jargon sans any conviction seemingly, not realising perhaps that India is taking a page straight out of the Israeli playbook!
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 17 Aug 2019 21:42

https://twitter.com/MakrandParanspe/sta ... 1880100865
Makarand R Paranjape @MakrandParanspe

'Narendra Modi has buried Nehru's India'! Never imagined it would come to this--Pak foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi laments the death of Nehru's India. If they {Bakis} miss it while we don't care it's obvious who it benefited the most.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sonugn » 17 Aug 2019 21:58

Do we know anything about the positions of Russia during FATF ICRG meetings? Was there any time they sided with China on Pak?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby banrjeer » 17 Aug 2019 22:11

Tangential to Kashmir but look at the legal aspects.

who is charged for the murder?
Not the man who shot the intruder but the accomplices of the intruder.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/us/illin ... index.html

Stability and security are built on a sound legal system

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 17 Aug 2019 22:14

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China wants democracy in Kashmir, but not in China. China sympathizes with 1 thousand pro-democracy protesters in Kashmir, but not with 1 million pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 17 Aug 2019 22:18

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/MakrandParanspe/status/1162693041880100865
Makarand R Paranjape @MakrandParanspe

'Narendra Modi has buried Nehru's India'! Never imagined it would come to this--Pak foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi laments the death of Nehru's India. If they {Bakis} miss it while we don't care it's obvious who it benefited the most.


saar, since even before independence, the congis and the pakis have played a prefixed match and in this faustian bargain only India has lost.


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Narendra Modi has buried Nehru's India, says Pak minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi - Didn’t you divide the country because you rejected Nehru’s India?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby ShyamSP » 17 Aug 2019 22:40

khan wrote:The bottom-line is Russia is no longer India’s reliable partner in the UN, they are just allies of convenience. Indian diplomats will obviously try to downplay any rifts because they understandably don’t want to highlight this & show weakness, but this sudden hesitation by the Russians is a reality & needs to be factored in by strategic minds.


India with limited vision both militarily and economically in regions from Russia to Delhi makes the other powers to look into their own needs. India should engage in at least economic activity such as gas/oil pipelines, high ways, etc from Russia and other *stans and play to reduce great game in that area by providing some military guarantees for economic activity. Congress flunked India but at least new India now expand with open vision in that region.


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