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Postby Peregrine » 18 Sep 2019 00:31

Dormant routes used by Pakistani army to infiltrate terrorists into J&K: Officials – PTI

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- This assessment comes amid intelligence inputs that there has been a surge in infiltration from across the border through higher reaches north Kashmir and Poonch and Rajouri of Jammu region.

The higher reaches of Gulmarg was used in early 1990s for infiltration into central Kashmir.


SRINAGAR: Dormant routes have been used by the Pakistani army to infiltrate nearly 60 terrorists since the abrogation of Jammu and Kashmir's special status, officials said on Tuesday.

This assessment comes amid intelligence inputs that there has been a surge in infiltration from across the border through higher reaches of north Kashmir and Poonch and Rajouri of Jammu region, they said.

There was, however, no official word from the Army on the crossing of terrorists from across the border.

During a recent meeting to ascertain the number of successful and unsuccessful infiltration bids along the Line of Control, the Army representative was presented with host of evidence collected by various agencies about infiltration by terrorists from higher reaches of Gurez, Machil and Gulmarg sectors of Kashmir region and Poonch and Rajouri areas in Jammu region, the officials said.

Director General of Jammu and Kashmir Police Dilbagh Singh had earlier said that several infiltration bids have taken place at the Line of Control and majority of them have been foiled.

He had not ruled out the possibility that some may have crossed over and said the matter was being looked into.

The higher reaches of Gulmarg, a portion of which is under the command of Srinagar-based XV corps and another under Nagrota (Jammu)-based XVI corps, was used in early 1990s for infiltration into central Kashmir.

In 2014, the Army was caught by surprise when a terrorist, Naveed, arrested after a suicide bid on a BSF vehicle at Udhampur, told interrogators that they had crossed over from 'Ustad Post' in higher reaches of Gulmarg and reached Kashmir valley.

However, now it seems that the same route has been used to enter the valley, the officials said, adding some of these members had been sighted in various parts of Budgam and Pulwama in South Kashmir.

The officials said a group of terrorists shifted to Baba Reshi area before moving via Pakherpora to highly-volatile Pulwama district, where they have set up their permanent base.

Another group has moved into the central district of Budgam, the officials said.

They also said a group infiltrated from Gurez, Machil, Tangdhar sectors under the cover of heavy artillery firing.

This infiltration could be realised by the security agencies when new faces started emerging in Ganderbal area, an adjoining district of Srinagar.

Another cause of worry for security agencies is an axis along the Poonch area in Jammu region where small groups managed to sneak in and reach Shopian in South Kashmir.

They could have possibly used Hill Kaka route to enter into Shopian, the officials said. This route was famous during early 2000 but was not used after 2003 when the Army carried out a botched-up operation 'Sarp Vinash', they said.

Majority of terrorists even at that time had managed to sneak in to various parts of South Kashmir. However, after gaining the control of the mountain, the army had fortified its presence in the area.

The security agencies have been passing on regular instructions for carrying out search operations for these new terrorists and ensuring proper barricading of roads.

The terrorists have also used Lama area in Rajouri to enter the state and use mountainous terrains to gain access into the Kashmir valley's militancy- hit area of South Kashmir, the officials said.

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Postby g.sarkar » 18 Sep 2019 01:02

Anything to stay relevant:
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/h ... 2019-09-17
High drama enfolds at Srinagar airport as Yashwant Sinha refuses to leave
Yashwant Sinha, who had travelled to Kashmir as a part of an NGO group called Concerned Citizens Group, was not allowed to venture out of the airport.

Shuja-ul-Haq, Srinagar
September 17, 2019
HIGHLIGHTS
Former Union minister Yashwnat was sent back to Delhi from Srinagar airport on Tuesday
Sinha claims that the authorities sent him back as he was threat to peace in the Valley
Ex-BJP leader said that he was visiting Kashmir to celebrate normalcy in J&K
High drama unfolded at Srinagar airport on Tuesday as former BJP leader Yashwant Sinha was not allowed to leave the facility and was forced to return to New Delhi. The veteran politician had flown to Srinagar earlier in the morning, however, he was not allowed to leave the airport.
Speaking to India Today TV, Yashwant Sinha said that he was asked not to leave the Srinagar airport by the authorities there as he was a "threat to peace". "When I landed, I was told that I could not leave Srinagar airport and venture in the Kashmir. The authorities told me I cannot leave the Srinagar airport as I am a threat to peace," Yashwant Sinha said. The former BJP leader claimed that he had decided to visit Kashmir as the government said that the situation was normal. "I wanted to say hello to my friends and burst crackers on the streets to celebrate," he said.
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Postby Peregrine » 18 Sep 2019 01:24

India has a unique challenge from one neighbour who needs to become normal: EAM Jaishankar PTI

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- We have a unique challenge from one neighbour and that would remain a challenge until thatneighbour becomes a normal neighbour, Jaishankar said, in an obvious reference to Pakistan

- The EAM added that the neighbour must act against cross-border terrorism


NEW DELHI: Attacking Pakistan, external affairs minister S Jaishankar on Tuesday said India faces a "unique challenge" from one neighbour who needs to act normal and take measures against cross-border terrorism.

Addressing his first press conference after assuming office in the Modi 2.0 government in May, Jaishankar, while presenting the ministry's work in the first 100 days, said that one of the key achievements of the government in this period has been a strong connection between national security and foreign policy goals.

He said the Indian voice is now heard much more on the global stage, be it at G20 summit or at climate conferences.

The minister said India's narrative on issues like cross-border terrorism and abrogation Of Article 370 has been articulated to global audience.

In an obvious reference to Pakistan, Jaishankar said, "We have a unique challenge from one neighbour and that would remain a challenge until that neighbour becomes a normal neighbour and acts against cross-border terrorism."

Jaishankar also expressed happiness at Donald Trump's decision to attend the 'Howdy, Modi' event in Houston, saying that it is a matter of great honour that the US President has accepted the Indian community’s invitation.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Sep 2019 01:44

Indian External affairs minister ... pushing buttons. First it was Ninda turtle now this. Modi seems hellbent on forcing Dimram to react.

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1173925135142838273
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

We expect one day, we will have physical jurisdiction over it: India on PoK

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Postby Rohit_K » 18 Sep 2019 03:36

Tarun Vijay தருண் விஜய்‏ @Tarunvijay
https://twitter.com/Tarunvijay/status/1 ... 6412470273
'PoK part of India,one day we will have physical jurisdiction over it:' EAM @DrSJaishankar.Thanks for assertive words.Glad we held an exh,first post '47 showing #POK monuments in our National Monuments Exh. #NAM They belong to us.Inaugurated by @prahladspatel @DrJitendraSingh

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Postby SBajwa » 18 Sep 2019 04:35

Deans wrote:I think the problem with continuing the 1948 war, beyond the Jan 49 ceasefire, had more to do with economics and logistics than the Military situation - where the momentum was in our favour. (`Slender was the thread' is a good account of the fighting).

None of our generals in 1947 had enough exposure to logistics - Both brigade commanders (later Div commanders) Thimmaya and Sen, were Colonels in WW-2. Our logistic situation was poor. The train system had broken down due to the influx of refugees and riots in the Punjab. The airlift (using every available civil aircraft) was unsustainable. Gen. Carippa had apparently asked for 2 divisions for a summer offensive to retake all of Kashmir, but that would meant effectively doubling our strength in Kashmir, without the assured ability to supply them. If Pakistan had also raised more forces (India did not enjoy any significant numerical superiority) it was uncertain if we would win. Moreover, JLN (and possibly others in Govt) were unclear if we wanted to retake POK, since places like Mirpur and Poonch were considered very hostile to India, in the process defying the UN and impoverishing our already bankrupt country.



Most of the non muslim punjabi youth wanted to join army for revenge only purposes. In 1947 many had lost their relatives. JLN was a non military leader and was afraid of a coup.

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Postby chetak » 18 Sep 2019 05:02

SBajwa wrote:
Deans wrote:I think the problem with continuing the 1948 war, beyond the Jan 49 ceasefire, had more to do with economics and logistics than the Military situation - where the momentum was in our favour. (`Slender was the thread' is a good account of the fighting).

None of our generals in 1947 had enough exposure to logistics - Both brigade commanders (later Div commanders) Thimmaya and Sen, were Colonels in WW-2. Our logistic situation was poor. The train system had broken down due to the influx of refugees and riots in the Punjab. The airlift (using every available civil aircraft) was unsustainable. Gen. Carippa had apparently asked for 2 divisions for a summer offensive to retake all of Kashmir, but that would meant effectively doubling our strength in Kashmir, without the assured ability to supply them. If Pakistan had also raised more forces (India did not enjoy any significant numerical superiority) it was uncertain if we would win. Moreover, JLN (and possibly others in Govt) were unclear if we wanted to retake POK, since places like Mirpur and Poonch were considered very hostile to India, in the process defying the UN and impoverishing our already bankrupt country.



Most of the non muslim punjabi youth wanted to join army for revenge only purposes. In 1947 many had lost their relatives. JLN was a non military leader and was afraid of a coup.


as indeed, the mafia family, the congi courtiers and the lootyens cabal especially the hardcore commies are afraid today.

that's why the IAS hangers on were spooked and they panicked on the coup reports by tihar resident waisty and coupta, his paid assassin.

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Postby Rsatchi » 18 Sep 2019 11:18

https://thewire.in/media/jammu-and-kashmir-journalist
More rhona dhona
Yesterday part 2 of Irish Trouble of 1970-80s on PeePeeSee
Deja vu of what’s happening in Kashmir .
But a huge difference in the policing/shooting/killing
Next time the Brits talk of Cash more we should hold up the mirror and remind world how P5 deal their secessionist movement and how they advise others to deal with it

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Postby Rsatchi » 18 Sep 2019 17:34

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 182998.cms
Italian MEP says terrorist did not land from Moon :rotfl:
Bellissimo Paisano!! :D

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Postby pankajs » 18 Sep 2019 18:10

pankajs wrote:Indian External affairs minister ... pushing buttons. First it was Ninda turtle now this. Modi seems hellbent on forcing Dimram to react.

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1173925135142838273
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

We expect one day, we will have physical jurisdiction over it: India on PoK

BTW, someone on twitter pointed out that this is also a message about CPEC and a message to China. Appears logically sound to me.

Taking it a step further, might also be a message to China on Akshi Chin. We will be wait and at the opportune moment take back what is ours.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Sep 2019 18:13

https://twitter.com/SengeHSering/status ... 1439936512
#SengeSering @SengeHSering

#FATF Alert:
Locals in #Pakistan occupied Kashmir (POJK) claim that 100s of tribal Pashtuns have been transported into POJK by PAK secret agency ISI to strengthen Jihadi/terrorist groups who have ambitions to attack #India.

Such attacks lead to deaths of locals on both sides.

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Postby mmasand » 18 Sep 2019 18:23

Worth a read for those who aren't overtly optimistic of the picture being painted by our media that all is hunky dory.

Kashmir: The situation is abnormally ‘normal’

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Postby pankajs » 18 Sep 2019 18:31

oops .. wrong thread. Moved.
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Postby CRamS » 18 Sep 2019 18:54

mmasand wrote:Worth a read for those who aren't overtly optimistic of the picture being painted by our media that all is hunky dory.

Kashmir: The situation is abnormally ‘normal’


Nothing very new in this, but yes, I think he does paint a somewhat realistic picture.

The Kashmir conundrum centers on one and only entity and that is Islamic extremism and separatism and sense of superiority with its nerve center at the GHQ Rawilpindi.

So I agree, I don't buy the BS put out by Indian govt PR machine that most Kashmiri Muslims welcome abrogation of 370.

And the reason for that is that 370 cemented this feeling of separateness and sense of entitlement and delusion that "azaadi" is a heart beat away.

So naturally, when this entitlement taken away, they will feel mighty p!ssed. In the past that anger would take the form of terror in collusion with TSP. And the tragic loss of life we have seen in the past. (Of course, this cycle may well return. The jury is still out).

Now with restrictions in place, and TSP laying a wait and watch game, KMs executing terror attacks is difficult.

What does this mean? If you take TSP out of the equation, this anger of KMs will in due course, with inducements, with democracy will dissipate.

The past 45 days have clearly showed, except to those colonial/racist toadies in the editorial boards of NYT/WP/BBC/Economist and uncle Tom NRIs and RNIs that unless TSP provides the oxygen for terror, there will be no terror, and left to Indian govt and KMs, there will be no so called Kashmir issue or "dispute" or "nuke flash-point" in due course.

And most important that low IQ dim-wits in India don't understand, and aforementioned colonial scoundrels pretend not to understand is that you take TSP terror out of the equation, there will be no so called "human rights" violations. Us Hindus are not blood thirsty monsters, but when confronted with the machinations of violent Islamic extremism masquerading as a "freedom struggle" excesses are bound to happen.

Its TSP stupid. Its Islamic extremism stupid.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Sep 2019 20:09

Modi trolling bakis but especially Im the Dim

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1174234503532949505
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

India has formally requested Islamabad to give permission for PM Modi's plane to use Pakistani airspace during his upcoming US Visit

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Postby williams » 18 Sep 2019 20:22

pankajs wrote:Modi trolling bakis but especially Im the Dim

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1174234503532949505
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

India has formally requested Islamabad to give permission for PM Modi's plane to use Pakistani airspace during his upcoming US Visit


Looks like they denied permission this time :) I am sure Modi has a method to this madness. We will know when this will backfire on the Pakis.

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https://twitter.com/PashtunDefence/stat ... 2806421504
Pashtun Defence @PashtunDefence

Civil society of Kashmir rejected the interference of Tribal people in Kashmir issue ! Pakistani military were forcefully brought the tribals to muzafarabad to march them toward #LOC ! #Kashmir

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Postby sudeepj » 18 Sep 2019 21:50

mmasand wrote:Worth a read for those who aren't overtly optimistic of the picture being painted by our media that all is hunky dory.

Kashmir: The situation is abnormally ‘normal’


Khaled is a fairly reasonable chap, but even here, there is a tinge of psy-ops in that '..these people are really angry, they must be appeased somehow..'. The state must ofcourse protect them from external influence, but if Kashmiris are in this soup today, its of their own doing. India and Indians dont owe Kashmiris anything over and above what they do to any other Indian. If they are fuming at how their opinions dont matter, its their own damn problem. They do matter, but they matter to the extent of 6 million / 1250 million.

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Postby krithivas » 18 Sep 2019 22:16

There is a method, It looks like Terroristan is also being casted as Abnormalistan

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/m ... 2019-09-18
"India regretted Pakistan's decision to deny overflight clearance for the VVIP special flight and said, We regret the decision of the government of Pakistan to deny overflight clearance for the VVIP special flight which is otherwise granted routinely by any normal country. We call upon Pakistan to recognise the futility of such unilateral actions," he had said

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pankajs wrote:Modi trolling bakis but especially Im the Dim

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1174234503532949505


Looks like they denied permission this time :) I am sure Modi has a method to this madness. We will know when this will backfire on the Pakis.

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Postby manjgu » 18 Sep 2019 22:31

1) IA was on roll when JLN stopped IA from crossing the Domel bridge otw Muzaffarabad. The kargil/Ladhak bit was a sideshow but necessary part of the ops. The IA commanders could never fathom why they were stopped at Domel. IA was in a better shape than PA and IAF was certainly stronger than PAF in 1947/48. 2) IAF had a role to play in the Shaletang episode but role of IA was also v significant. the pathans were caught in a pincer from 3 sides... the armoured cars from 1 side, sikhs from one side and Kumaon from one side. ofc IAF would like to highlight its role as would IA.

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Postby Picklu » 19 Sep 2019 01:30

krithivas wrote:There is a method, It looks like Terroristan is also being casted as Abnormalistan

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/m ... 2019-09-18
"India regretted Pakistan's decision to deny overflight clearance for the VVIP special flight and said, We regret the decision of the government of Pakistan to deny overflight clearance for the VVIP special flight which is otherwise granted routinely by any normal country. We call upon Pakistan to recognise the futility of such unilateral actions," he had said

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Looks like they denied permission this time :) I am sure Modi has a method to this madness. We will know when this will backfire on the Pakis.


It was well known to be denied but still permissions were asked. In the last couple of days, more than once, action of Pakistan has been mentioned as NOT NORMAL. Keep the wordings in mind.

I think ground is being prepared to declare Indus Water Treaty null and void as situation is not normal.

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Postby KJo » 19 Sep 2019 02:04

pankajs wrote:Modi trolling bakis but especially Im the Dim

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1174234503532949505
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

India has formally requested Islamabad to give permission for PM Modi's plane to use Pakistani airspace during his upcoming US Visit


Modi being very Chankyan here.
I think he is giving pakis a chance to punch him and show him the middle finger and claim victory and thus protect their H&D. That is all that matters to the pakis as we know from decades of paki-watching.

So what just happened is cunning bania Modi made himself look vulnerable (to the paki eyes) and made a request for something that is trivial. pakis jumped on the chance to show him up, said NO! with an angry look and scary expression. Paki awaam is happy. Islam has been saved, Kafir has been put in his place. Life is good again.

Takes the pressure off 370 and more serious issues. You think Modi/India care about an extra 45 minutes when he is flying all the way from India to the US?

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X Posted on the Terroristan Thread



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Postby yensoy » 19 Sep 2019 05:18

Picklu wrote:It was well known to be denied but still permissions were asked. In the last couple of days, more than once, action of Pakistan has been mentioned as NOT NORMAL. Keep the wordings in mind.

I think ground is being prepared to declare Indus Water Treaty null and void as situation is not normal.


Repeating for the nth time here... IWT abrogation is toothless unless you have a way to diver the water away from Pak, which currently we don't, not to any credible degree.

OTOH, "not normal" is a tool to not be pressured into any talks with Pakis. We don't even need to meet them at UN, because they didn't uphold the sanctity of UNO, by denying overflight. After all, like the legendary water holes of Africa, all animals - predator and prey - come together to share a drink at the UNGA.

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Postby banrjeer » 19 Sep 2019 07:23

mmasand wrote:Worth a read for those who aren't overtly optimistic of the picture being painted by our media that all is hunky dory.

Kashmir: The situation is abnormally ‘normal’


Yes there should not be any illusions about the valley population . But it’s a necessary evil. They need to vent and indulge in violence and evaluate where they stand over many decades it’s their karma.. does not mean others will blandly accept their tyranny.

Their vision does not go beyond the valley Maybe the valley can secede or win back aksai chin t and become a buffer state

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Postby UlanBatori » 19 Sep 2019 09:10

FartyTwo days, Situation Naaaaaaaaarmal.

Oiropean Parliament stands with India :((

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Postby Sachin » 19 Sep 2019 09:30

A big whine from a "secular" news paper. I am sure the editor would have cried so much so to fill few buckets!
On Kashmir, SC has disappointed so far

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Postby SBajwa » 19 Sep 2019 10:02

NRao wrote:



Traitors work only for money

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Postby mmasand » 19 Sep 2019 10:37

sudeepj wrote:
mmasand wrote:Worth a read for those who aren't overtly optimistic of the picture being painted by our media that all is hunky dory.

Kashmir: The situation is abnormally ‘normal’


Khaled is a fairly reasonable chap, but even here, there is a tinge of psy-ops in that '..these people are really angry, they must be appeased somehow..'. The state must ofcourse protect them from external influence, but if Kashmiris are in this soup today, its of their own doing. India and Indians dont owe Kashmiris anything over and above what they do to any other Indian. If they are fuming at how their opinions dont matter, its their own damn problem. They do matter, but they matter to the extent of 6 million / 1250 million.


You've hit the nail on the head, a bit of stockholm syndrome as far as those who were sympathetic with the separatists. Sadly, the separatists were emboldened by several state agencies (read:governors) and previous govts as a buffer between pro-India and pro-Pak sentiments. I would even go onto say, the events between 2006-2016 were squarely a failure of intelligence, both local and IB (hello hello, we know what happened here), and the MHA was caught napping or in bed with separatists. I will slightly differ on what we owe, as a matter of principle we don't owe them a dime more than anyone else, but do we want to play the equality game at the risk of them flirting with terrorism? Some TLC and cajoling might just be the balm to woo the next generation into the union, even if it takes a decade or two.

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Postby Yagnasri » 19 Sep 2019 11:19

Sachin wrote:A big whine from a "secular" news paper. I am sure the editor would have cried so much so to fill few buckets!
On Kashmir, SC has disappointed so far


There are two things here. Removal of 370 provisions plus making J&K divided and converting both parts as UTs. As of the second is concerned there is settled law which SC upheld long long back staying that the Union of India has power. 370 provision is not going to change as no judge is going to pass judgement or stay easily.

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Postby Pratyush » 19 Sep 2019 13:20

SBajwa wrote:
NRao wrote:



Traitors work only for money


Naah, he is a dumbocrat.

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Postby nits » 19 Sep 2019 13:54

KJo wrote:
pankajs wrote:Modi trolling bakis but especially Im the Dim

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1174234503532949505


Modi being very Chankyan here.
I think he is giving pakis a chance to punch him and show him the middle finger and claim victory and thus protect their H&D. That is all that matters to the pakis as we know from decades of paki-watching.

So what just happened is cunning bania Modi made himself look vulnerable (to the paki eyes) and made a request for something that is trivial. pakis jumped on the chance to show him up, said NO! with an angry look and scary expression. Paki awaam is happy. Islam has been saved, Kafir has been put in his place. Life is good again.

Takes the pressure off 370 and more serious issues. You think Modi/India care about an extra 45 minutes when he is flying all the way from India to the US?


So agree on this; but abdul janta is ga ga abt it... let them live in there false paradise

I think we should send 1 request every week - keeping 220 Million people Happy is not a small task you see :)

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Postby pankajs » 19 Sep 2019 13:57

cross post
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Balkis get one more reality check ..

https://twitter.com/ConstantinoX/status ... 0002811904
Constantino Xavier @ConstantinoX

Strong European statement on China (Xinjiang, Hong Kong), but not a word about #Kashmir: silence speaks volumes about new trust in EU-India relations. Despite concerns, Brussels gives India the benefit of doubt and rebuffs NGO and Pakistani lobbies.

The EU statement is embedded in the original tweet for anyone interested.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby mmasand » 19 Sep 2019 15:01

Pratyush wrote:
SBajwa wrote:

Traitors work only for money


Naah, he is a dumbocrat.


Disservice to his own family, his maternal grandfather was a freedom fighter, INC worker and MP.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Aditya_V » 19 Sep 2019 15:46

mmasand wrote:
Pratyush wrote:
Naah, he is a dumbocrat.


Disservice to his own family, his maternal grandfather was a freedom fighter, INC worker and MP.


Many in the INC including leadership supported 370 and close to Pakistan, that might explain his behavior.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Pratyush » 19 Sep 2019 15:53

His current position is no different from the position of current INC.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Bart S » 19 Sep 2019 17:05

In Pakistan-Held Kashmir, Growing Calls for Independence


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/worl ... dence.html
Important data points for reference. Surprising that the NYT published it, but their usual pro-Paki reputation makes it all the more useful.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby manjgu » 19 Sep 2019 17:17

the articles in NYT and other newspapers are doing of the PR firm hired by Napakis.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Bart S » 19 Sep 2019 17:19

manjgu wrote:the articles in NYT and other newspapers are doing of the PR firm hired by Napakis.


Not sure if you read the article before commenting, but this is not the Paki POV. Unless it is some kind of sly strategy to boost the credibility of the NYT's anti-India articles.

However, there are some pro-Paki statements (quotes by Paki stooges mainly) within that article.


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