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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Bart S » 24 Sep 2019 20:26

Deans wrote:
Atmavik wrote:
the last line is very true.


I wrote a nasty letter, though I doubt they will publish.
The jist of it was on basis a kid, who has done nothing apart from being the daughter of a corrupt politician (who received approx 2% of the votes of the electorate in her home town) gets invited as a speaker to a conclave which is supposed to be about the finest minds in the world giving gyan to us lesser people.


She is also now operating Mehbooba's twitter account and doing the usual anti-national propaganda.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby kit » 24 Sep 2019 20:40

vimal wrote:https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/earthquake-in-delhi-ncr-kashmir-richter-scale-1602691-2019-09-24

Earthquake hits PoK: Death toll rises to 19, over 300 injured

An earthquake measuring 5.8 on the Richter scale hit Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir on Tuesday. The tremors were felt in parts of Pakistan and North India. At least 19 people have been killed near the epicentre.

According to co-ordinates released by the US agency, the epicentre of the earthquake was located near the New Mirpur city in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.


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Isn't Mirpur the center of pukiness in POK.
Anyway, I can clearly see that Amreekha is responsible for this and they used HAARP like weapons for this.


I bet they ll blame Modi , Haarp or no Harp . Bet India has one near its southern landmass ( one specific rumour long back Nilgiris/western ghats being a possible location ) ( also i bet idrw will caryy this off as newj :mrgreen: )

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby saip » 24 Sep 2019 20:45

Deans wrote:
manjgu wrote:modi ne POK ko hila diya ! modi hai to mumkin hai


Pity it was just 5.8 A bit more and it could have destroyed the Mirpur dam (biggest one in Pak).

I read it is 6.3 and then the greatest scientist of all (waiting for a Nobel) Fawad Chowdary said it is 7.1.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vimal » 24 Sep 2019 21:42

Why is it 7.1? Why not 7.2 or 7.86?

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J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Peregrine » 25 Sep 2019 01:14

X Posted on the Terroristan Thread

Watch: British experts support PM Modi’s move on Kashmir

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 25 Sep 2019 01:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuqr5cdpbvw&t=581
India: Minister of External Affairs Subrahmanyam Jaishankar

https://twitter.com/seemasirohi/status/ ... 9752530945
Seema Sirohi @seemasirohi

.@DrSJaishankar: We don’t have a problem talking to Pakistan. We have a problem talking to terroristan @AsiaSociety conversation with Kevin Rudd.
Now that is as official as it can get
on Kashmir: First point people shd appreciate is that the (Article 370) provision was temporary. You rarely read that in international press. The word is out there – 'temporary.' Google it. temprorary – 70 years is a decent definition of temporary.
on Kashmir: Social and economic progress passed Kashmir by. When we came back to power, took long, hard look and said we would do something different. We are reformatting within our borders. #Kashmir
.@DrSJaishankar Pakistan created an entire industry of terrorism for Kashmir, actually for all of India. They are reacting with anger and frustration because they built an industry. They should accept that the model they built doesn't work. We should all encourage them.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Sep 2019 02:27

SEEMA SIROHI said that? Sure changed a bit since the Global Yindooo Meet times, hain? :eek: :shock:
O I c... she is just reporting. First I have seen from her since the above event and educational consequences thereof.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Sep 2019 02:31

5.8, but pretty deep cracks. looks like ground is moving eastwards. :)

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 25 Sep 2019 07:45

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/healing-t ... estoration
Healing Touch: 50,000 Temples Closed, Vandalised During Islamist Assault On Kashmir To Be Surveyed For Restoration
by Swarajya Staff - Sep 23 2019.
Union Minister G Kishan Reddy in Bengaluru announced today that the government has set up committee to survey number of closed schools in Kashmir valley and will reopen them. He also added that around 50,000 temples were closed over the years, of which some were destroyed, and idols were defaced. “We have ordered survey of such temples,” he was quoted as saying by ABP Live.
The step comes a month after the abrogation of the special status of the state of Jammu and Kashmir and bifurcation of the state into two union territories.
The terrorism-ridden state had seen mass exodus of the Kashmiri Pundit community with rise of Islamist Jihadism in the 1990s. Several acts of violence, including eye-gouging, gang-rapes were committed against the Hindus in the valley. According to the figures released by J&K government in 2012, around half of the temples in the state in the Valley were damaged in two decades. “Of the 438 temples in the Valley, 208 had been damaged over the years,” the state government said in a written reply to the state assembly in response to the question by a BJP MLA.
Srinagar witnessed the highest number of acts of vandalism with 57 temples being damaged. Anantnag district came a close second with 56 temples having suffered the damage.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Aditya_V » 25 Sep 2019 07:47

Move on Mangla dam is fine

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Postby UlanBatori » 25 Sep 2019 07:58

Day 48 over. Situation Naarmal.
Dimran: Pakistan PM says Indian crackdown on Kashmir will spur global Muslim extremism

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby suryag » 25 Sep 2019 08:56

^^^ kuch bhi hun??? Tomorrow he might say abrogation of 370 has caused increase in incidence of Cholera in paki land

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby wig » 25 Sep 2019 09:58

Article 370 was used as shield to secretly enable ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Valley - Satellite pics

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/arti ... ics/493884

excerpts from the above article. it displays the truth of islamo fascism
A satellite image, dating back to 2001 of North Handwara in Kashmir, shows systematic razing of all Kashmiri Hindu dwellings.

A second satellite image, which dates back to 2017 of the same area in Handwara, shows encroachment of Hindu lands by locals. The satellite images totally expose the lies uttered by the Kashmiri politicians, who claim that they are ready to welcome the Kashmiri Hindus back to their homes.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Deans » 25 Sep 2019 10:20

UlanBatori wrote:5.8, but pretty deep cracks. looks like ground is moving eastwards. :)


Deep cracks are just Pak construction quality.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 25 Sep 2019 10:29

suryag wrote:^^^ kuch bhi hun??? Tomorrow he might say abrogation of 370 has caused increase in incidence of Cholera in paki land


didn't zulfikar bhutto behave similarly just before the paki army gently put the silken noose around his neck.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 25 Sep 2019 17:44

“Still, by Kashmiri standards, bloodshed has been limited,” Cohen wrote, rubbishing the Pakistani allegations of genocide in the region


Why does Cohen have to invoke Kashmiri standards?

Citation:
Thomas A. Marks (2004) India: State Response to Insurgency in Jammu & Kashmir – The Jammu Case, Low Intensity Conflict & Law Enforcement, 12:3, 122-143, DOI: 10.1080/09662840500072615

Indeed, the internal war in J{ammu}&K{Kashmir}, when scaled, does not begin to approach the levels of criminal violence present in those U.S. metropolitan areas best known for their murder rates. The ‘death count’ in Jammu & Kashmir for 2003 stood at 836 civilians, 1447 militants and 380 security personnel. If this violence is aggregated (2,663), which is unorthodox but certainly presents the worst possible statistical picture, it scales out at 24.5:100,000 population. This would place J&K between Memphis (24.7:100,000) and Chicago (22.2:100,000), in the 2002 murder rankings when examining American cities with populations greater than 500,000, well off the pace established by the likes of Washington, DC (45.8:100,000) or Detroit (42.0:100,000).

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rudradev » 25 Sep 2019 20:21

Which Cohen is this? Roger Cohen or Uneven Cohen?

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Postby UlanBatori » 25 Sep 2019 20:54

^^ First thing I checked. Roger. Seema Sirohi writing a relatively sane tweet - and Uneven "I advised GOTUS to prop up Musharraf" Cohen writing that - would be like Ishant Sharma scoring consecutive double-centuries against Australia. Not very usual.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby krithivas » 25 Sep 2019 23:06

Just a 5 min "research" from publicly available data/statistics - The ratio of Civilian deaths in US by Police action vs. Total Terrorist/Civilian/Army deaths in Kashmir was 3:1 in 2017/18, In other words, For every 3 civilian deaths in the US by Police action there is 1 death of a terrorist/civilian/Army in Kashmir, India.

A_Gupta wrote:
“Still, by Kashmiri standards, bloodshed has been limited,” Cohen wrote, rubbishing the Pakistani allegations of genocide in the region


Why does Cohen have to invoke Kashmiri standards?

Citation:
Thomas A. Marks (2004) India: State Response to Insurgency in Jammu & Kashmir – The Jammu Case, Low Intensity Conflict & Law Enforcement, 12:3, 122-143, DOI: 10.1080/09662840500072615

Indeed, the internal war in J{ammu}&K{Kashmir}, when scaled, does not begin to approach the levels of criminal violence present in those U.S. metropolitan areas best known for their murder rates. The ‘death count’ in Jammu & Kashmir for 2003 stood at 836 civilians, 1447 militants and 380 security personnel. If this violence is aggregated (2,663), which is unorthodox but certainly presents the worst possible statistical picture, it scales out at 24.5:100,000 population. This would place J&K between Memphis (24.7:100,000) and Chicago (22.2:100,000), in the 2002 murder rankings when examining American cities with populations greater than 500,000, well off the pace established by the likes of Washington, DC (45.8:100,000) or Detroit (42.0:100,000).


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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vimal » 26 Sep 2019 02:45



As usual the commie scums lying through their teeth. This comrade Annie Raja is the wife of CPI stalwart D. Raja's wife
She is the General Secretary of National Federation of Indian Women (what the heck is that?).

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby ramana » 26 Sep 2019 03:16

Deans wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:5.8, but pretty deep cracks. looks like ground is moving eastwards. :)


Deep cracks are just Pak construction quality.


Deep cracks run Pakistan.
Not just in Pakistan.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 26 Sep 2019 06:54

vimal wrote:


As usual the commie scums lying through their teeth. This comrade Annie Raja is the wife of CPI stalwart D. Raja's wife
She is the General Secretary of National Federation of Indian Women (what the heck is that?).


Hope to hear of them changing name to irrational federation of anti-Indian chappati-makers.
The theme of the commie article is that 16-year-old stonethrowers should be patted on the head and congratulated on their aim in killing innocent truckdrivers with one stone. The good news is that they are getting their musharrafs turned blue. 13,000 terrorists in jail? Long overdue. In a few years they won't be "teens" any more, just terrorists in jail.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Karthik S » 26 Sep 2019 07:48

Are we ignoring erdogand's tantrums against India? he has been more than willing to be the new adopted father of pakis. To be seen like a caliph, IMO erdo gand is bite off more than he can chew. Whoever thought it's a good idea to give naval orders to turkey must be kicked in the rear.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Deans » 26 Sep 2019 10:19

Erdo's economy is in free fall. He has simultaneously antagonized the US, EU & Saudi. Only nuisance value at best. I'm not sure the Navy deal was significant (see my previous post), but we should certainly send a signal to Turkey that they will not be considered for any govt tenders as they are not considered a friendly country.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby wig » 26 Sep 2019 10:26

either the recuritment system in J&K is deeply compromised by Pakis or this is carelessness

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/35-a-gon ... -jkp-jobs/

35-A gone but West Pakistan refugees still can’t apply for Jammu Kashmir Police jobs
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Notwithstanding the abrogation of Article 35 -A from the State and claims of Union Government that West Pak refugees and Valmiki Samaj who over the 70 years were deprived of citizenship rights will be entitled to State Government jobs under the new arrangement, the worries and pain of these hapless people have not still ended as J&K Police in its recent recruitment notification has kept the State Subject as main criteria thereby debarring them from applying for the posts of constables and SPOs.
The decision of the Police Department has generated a lot of resentment among the West Pak refugees and Valmiki Samaj who termed it a “great injustice” with them. The people belonging to these communities said this shows that nothing has changed for them with the abrogation of Article 35 -A as the authorities at the helm of affairs have closed the doors for the recruitment of their wards in police in which the Government has decided recruitment of 8500 posts of different ranks which included SIs, lady constables, constables and SPOs.

now that Art 35 A does not exist since Aug 5, 2019 this is decidedly strange
and
Sources in Police Department said the recruitment for two women battalions, one each from Jammu and Kashmir regions will entertain only ‘permanent residents’ of the State and any candidate furnishing wrong information will attract legal action.
On the directions of Director General Police, Dilbag Singh, the dates for submitting of forms have been extended to October 23, in the wake of non availability of the Internet services in the State, sources said. The forms for the posts have been made available at the district level from September 23 and the candidates can now file forms physically at the police’s district headquarters. Earlier, the forms were only available online, sources added.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 26 Sep 2019 10:34

Arabs remember Turkey's harsh rule very well. Remember Lawrence of Arabia? A lot of bachhebazi (and bacchibazi) went on over there. And they consider Pakis simply as Untermensch. Both are unacceptable as the leader of Ummah.
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Postby g.sarkar » 26 Sep 2019 11:19

https://www.news18.com/news/india/nsa-a ... 22519.html
NSA Ajit Doval Arrives in Kashmir on Second Visit Since Abrogation of J&K's Special Status
Doval will meet top security officials and take stock of security and development-related activities in the state, which will be converted into two union territories -- Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh.
PTI, September 25, 2019
Srinagar: National Security Advisor Ajit Doval arrived here on Wednesday to take stock of the situation in Kashmir Valley and decide the future course of action for the smooth implementation of government plans after the withdrawal of special status of Jammu and Kashmir, officials said.
Doval will meet top security officials and take stock of security and development-related activities in the state, which will be converted into two union territories -- Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh -- on October 31, the officials said.
It was not immediately known how long the NSA would stay in the valley.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Mollick.R » 26 Sep 2019 13:35

wig wrote:either the recuritment system in J&K is deeply compromised by Pakis or this is carelessness

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/35-a-gon ... -jkp-jobs/

35-A gone but West Pakistan refugees still can’t apply for Jammu Kashmir Police jobs
excerpts
Notwithstanding the abrogation of Article 35 -A from the State and claims of Union Government that West Pak refugees and Valmiki Samaj who over the 70 years were deprived of citizenship rights will be entitled to State Government jobs under the new arrangement, the worries and pain of these hapless people have not still ended as J&K Police in its recent recruitment notification has kept the State Subject as main criteria thereby debarring them from applying for the posts of constables and SPOs.
The decision of the Police Department has generated a lot of resentment among the West Pak refugees and Valmiki Samaj who termed it a “great injustice” with them. The people belonging to these communities said this shows that nothing has changed for them with the abrogation of Article 35 -A as the authorities at the helm of affairs have closed the doors for the recruitment of their wards in police in which the Government has decided recruitment of 8500 posts of different ranks which included SIs, lady constables, constables and SPOs.


now that Art 35 A does not exist since Aug 5, 2019 this is decidedly strange
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It's a clear ploy by old cronies to get recruited only their people in the system, before full fledged implementation of UT status.
As it's a big recruitment (8500 posts ) drive hope NSA takes notice of it and suspends it immediately.
Only after necessary correction in relevant statutes a fresh notification should be issued giving all communities equal opportunities.
By the way as NSA is visiting J&K, Is there any chance representatives of Valmiki Samaj meeting him and explaining him those problems ????
J&K Police will be under HM AS & NSA must very clearly understands implications of recruiting cent percent rotten tomatoes in system.
lets see.............

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vikas » 26 Sep 2019 13:43

^Hiring usually is a long drawn process. I am pretty sure this order will be overturned at some stage in future.

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Postby pankajs » 26 Sep 2019 13:54

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/no-pres ... ve-2106739\
"No Pressure On Modi": Imran Khan Admits Pak Has Failed Over Kashmir
Admitting that Pakistan has failed in its attempts to internationalise the Kashmir issue, Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday said that he is "disappointed with the international community" over the issue.

Pakistan has been repeatedly snubbed by the international community on several platforms after it cried foul over India's decision to abrogate Article 370 in Jammu and Kashmir, with many countries backing New Delhi on the matter.

"(I am) Disappointed by the international community...There's no pressure yet on Modi," Imran Khan said, adding, "We'll keep putting the pressure."

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Narad » 26 Sep 2019 14:21

wig wrote:https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/35-a-gone-but-wp-refugees-still-cant-apply-for-jkp-jobs/

35-A gone but West Pakistan refugees still can’t apply for Jammu Kashmir Police jobs
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This is because the Union territory of J&K and Laddakh will come in existence, after it stands notified on 31st October 2019.
Till that time all existing rules will be applicable as prevailing before 05 August.

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Postby wig » 26 Sep 2019 15:16

Narad wrote:
wig wrote:https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/35-a-gone-but-wp-refugees-still-cant-apply-for-jkp-jobs/

35-A gone but West Pakistan refugees still can’t apply for Jammu Kashmir Police jobs
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This is because the Union territory of J&K and Laddakh will come in existence, after it stands notified on 31st October 2019.
Till that time all existing rules will be applicable as prevailing before 05 August.



I beg to differ. Art 35A was notified by the incumbent President on 15 May 1954 and denotified by the incumbent President on 05 Aug 2019. Hence the recruitment of Police particularly with the requirement of State Subject is a mischief with the letter and spirit of law. This needs to be countered and the elements who notified it need to be identified. The reasons for overlooking the legal status need to be stated in a transparent manner to all

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Postby UlanBatori » 26 Sep 2019 17:30

Good rock-deconstruction jobs open in Arunachal for the momeen behind this. AmitShahji pls take note

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Deans » 26 Sep 2019 17:35

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/jobs/japanese-firms-offer-nursing-jobs-to-j-k-residents/articleshow/71311501.cms?from=mdr

A sign of things to come. Behave like a citizen of India and you get jobs. Continue to sulk - as KMs are doing and no one will give a damn.
Once UN week is over and SC rules on 370, woes of KMs will no longer be news.

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Postby KJo » 26 Sep 2019 18:17

Kashmiris realizing they have to work for a living. Like everyone else.


Broke Kashmiri students 'sell' apples in Maharashtra
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/ ... 38984.html

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Postby pankajs » 26 Sep 2019 19:10

https://twitter.com/iamkash_kr/status/1 ... 3149847552
Kashyap Kadagattur @iamkash_kr

100% landlines operational. People carrying on with their business as shops & markets are functional despite intimidation from Pakistan backed terrorists. No shortage of fuel, LPG, medicines, essential supplies, fruits vegetables & other daily needs. No lockdown/curfew. #Kashmir

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Postby UlanBatori » 26 Sep 2019 22:32

KJo wrote:Kashmiris realizing they have to work for a living. Like everyone else.
Broke Kashmiri students 'sell' apples in Maharashtra
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/ ... 38984.html


I haven't read the article (probably bring tears to mah eyes) but the headline is VERY interesting. BECAUSE, the primary obstacle to the apple crop in Kashmir reaching market is the terrorists.

So now the terrorists are hitting the tummies of Kashmiris. And these students can be the leaders of the move to say :P to the terrorists.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 26 Sep 2019 23:58

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/l ... 2019-09-26
UK's Labour Party passes controversial Kashmir resolution, India slams party for vote bank politics
Labour Party in a conference in Brighton passed a resolution that supported “international intervention in Kashmir and a call for UN-led referendum.’
Loveena Tandon, London, September 26, 2019.
On September 25, United Kingdom's Labour Party in a conference in Brighton passed a resolution that supported "international intervention in Kashmir and a call for UN led-referendum."
The motion was submitted by Blackburn, Dudley North, Keighley, Stockport and Wakefield constituency Labour parties. It condemns "the recent actions of the Government of India to revoke Article 370 and 35A of the Indian constitution and the special status" granted to Kashmir.
"Crucially, it calls on the Labour Party, the government in waiting, to clearly and vocally support the Kashmiri people’s right to self-determination and for international observers to be sent to the region immediately. The resolution also calls for an intervention of the party at the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC)," it further reads.
Reacting to the development, Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said, "Government has noted certain developments at the Labour Party Conference on September 25 pertaining to the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir. We regret the uninformed and unfounded positions taken at this event." He also turned down any engagement with the vote-bank driven politics of the Labour Party.
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PS the resolution was passed unanimously!

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J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Peregrine » 27 Sep 2019 00:24

Tribunal upholds ban imposed on JKLF-Malik – PTI
]NEW DELHI: A tribunal of the Delhi high court has upheld the banned imposed on Yasin Malik-led Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, the Home Ministry said
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