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Postby wig » 21 Oct 2019 09:32

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/muzaffar ... d-by-army/

TFTA Bak Jernail hands out a warning to the POK Muzaffarabad DC when he admits killings

Pakistan Army spokesperson Asif Ghafoor’s lie was today caught red handed as he was exposed by none other than Deputy Commissioner Muzaffarabad (Pakistan occupied Kashmir) Badar Munir.
Munir this morning tweeted confirming six killings of Pakistan army in Neelum Valley area of PoK.
Ghafoor countered him saying only three were killed.
Reports said Ghafoor then threatened the Deputy Commissioner Muzaffarabad not to release Pakistan army casualty numbers.

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Postby wig » 21 Oct 2019 09:36

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/arti ... ort/505772

Pakistan used satellite phones to communicate in Valley after Article 370 abrogation
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The intel report claims that there had been a massive spike in the usage of satellite phones between August 5-September 5, wherein several FM (frequency modulation) stations were active along the Line of Control.

The report said that during that period, several propaganda and fiery speeches were made between Pakistani terrorists and their Indian counterparts.

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Postby schinnas » 21 Oct 2019 13:23

It may be possible that PA is using unconventional methods such as telegram or Whatsapp to communicate amongst themselves rather than use radio which could be interpreted.

India would not have access to WhatsApp chat which is encrypted especially for Nationals outside her jurisdiction.

We need better ELINT and HUMINT in PoK to quickly assess damage there.

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Postby UlanBatori » 21 Oct 2019 18:18

WhatsApp & telegram need Mobile Internet or some Internet, hain?

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Postby Vips » 21 Oct 2019 18:23

Porkis will not use Whatsapp as the records of the chat can be produced under US pressure. They would use the Chinese messaging apps assured of Xi or other ding dong president's protection. Indian Service providers should provide records of all KM's who have downloaded such apps to the army/intelligence agencies. Maximum efforts should be on jamming the towers of paki service providers providing the range to communicate to people on our side of the border.
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Postby UlanBatori » 21 Oct 2019 18:25

OK. Silence is because they think the missiles homed in on their chatter. That is what happened to Chechen neta Gen. Dodayev (?) Was talking on mobile phone when a mijjile from a Russian helicopter reached out and touched his ear.
So it is not "artillery" as in ballistic shells. Great.

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Postby schinnas » 21 Oct 2019 20:53

UlanBatori wrote:WhatsApp & telegram need Mobile Internet or some Internet, hain?


I was referring to the news that said India learns of damage to the jihadis in PoK by listening to their radio chatter but the radios have gone silent. But it seems Internet may also have been turned off for general public in PoK. So you are right.

I wonder how they communicate. May be Jinns?

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Postby UlanBatori » 21 Oct 2019 21:13

They all have satphones courtesy of Uncle Sam. Helps NRO (National Recon Office) keep track of them too.

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Postby schinnas » 21 Oct 2019 21:18

Just noticed that Kartarpur corridor agreement is to be signed on Oct 23rd. The Pukis might have planned to conduct a nasty BAT attack or terror attack just before that making it difficult for India to sign the agreement. If India backs out, they would try to whip up Khalistani sentiments.

Whether this was really the case or not, very glad that they got a severe drubbing Sunday night.

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Postby pankajs » 21 Oct 2019 21:28

^^
Yup. That was what the latest dare from Bakis Quereshi was about.

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Postby schinnas » 21 Oct 2019 21:40

LOL. MSD (Modi,Shah,Doval) seems to have inverted that strategy. After getting arse whipped by India, they would have to swallow their pride and complete the Kartarpur agreement or set rest to any vestige of Khalistani dream they had.

Pukis and their hare brained schemes never ceases to amuse one.

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Postby Deans » 21 Oct 2019 22:49

Vips wrote:Porkis will not use Whatsapp as the records of the chat can be produced under US pressure. They would use the Chinese messaging apps assured of Xi or other ding dong president's protection. Indian Service providers should provide records of all KM's who have downloaded such apps to the army/intelligence agencies. Maximum efforts should be on jamming the towers of paki service providers providing the range to communicate to people on our side of the border.


Destroying the cell tower on the other side of the LoC is cheaper and more effective than jamming it.
And if they retaliate, well GOI has no restriction on mobile/whatsapp/internet, its only the Pakis who are denying Kashmiri civilians its use by blowing up cell towers.

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Postby Deans » 21 Oct 2019 23:25

A note about Kashmiri apples, which is useful to understand the real situation.

Apples are Kashmir's biggest export and most produced item (in any category). The movement of apples are therefore a good proxy for all goods
and the extent of free trade in apples is a proxy for normalcy in Kashmir.

The harvest is likely to be over 2 million tonnes this season. It will be the highest in history. (The State horti department keeps detailed stats).
This is 71% of India's apple production, so any shortfall makes prices shoot up.
In 2010 the harvest was 1.37 million tonnes, so it has steadily gone up these last few years. Farmers are harvesting apples despite threats. They have to since they would have taken loans against the crop.

Govt has offered to buy apples at market prices if traders don't pick up apples. So far a negligible quantity (1600 Tns) have been procured, because there is no stoppage of normal procurement by traders, so no need for govt intervention.

2 million tonnes have to be moved in approx 60 days. At 10 tns per truck, this translates to 3333 trucks per day or 4 lac truck journeys in all (2 lac * to & fro from Kashmir). 4 lac truck journeys on India roads result in an average 3200 accidents and 44 deaths. (Kashmir is similar to the national avg). If 200+ terrorists (estimate of those active in the valley) tasked with disrupting the apple trade, have killed 2 truck drivers out of 2 lac, its a terrible performance by the terrorists. (travel in orderly convoys with an escort will probably save some of the 44 who might be expected to die in road accidents in a less controlled environment).

There is already a glut of apples hitting wholesale markets like Azadpur in Delhi, to keep prices from falling (they should have shot up if there was even a 10% shortfall in supply - as it happened in the aftermath of Burhan Wani) Govt has increased the import duty on apples by 20% to maintain domestic prices. There would have been no need to defy US with a duty hike (US is our biggest source of imported apples) if it was felt that there would be any disruption in the supply of Kashmir apples.

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Postby UlanBatori » 21 Oct 2019 23:28

They should run some trains to send more apples down south. What about the :(( about starving Kashmiri students in Mumbai setting up Startups to bring apples directly, etc?

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Postby manjgu » 22 Oct 2019 07:14

There is lot of apple coming out of valley ...in jammu now ..the whole highway is choked with trucks ... there is glut of apples on the roadsides... i saw 2 trucks toppled over with apples strewn all over...Driver opened a shop on the roadside to sell the apples. Lot of apple comes from outside the valley as well ... doda..kishtwar etc. Going to visit hydro projets on chenab tomorrow ...pakaldul...dul hasti. ..

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Postby g.sarkar » 22 Oct 2019 07:58

Deans wrote:.....
2 million tonnes have to be moved in approx 60 days. At 10 tns per truck, this translates to 3333 trucks per day or 4 lac truck journeys in all (2 lac * to & fro from Kashmir). 4 lac truck journeys on India roads result in an average 3200 accidents and 44 deaths. (Kashmir is similar to the national avg). If 200+ terrorists (estimate of those active in the valley) tasked with disrupting the apple trade, have killed 2 truck drivers out of 2 lac, its a terrible performance by the terrorists. (travel in orderly convoys with an escort will probably save some of the 44 who might be expected to die in road accidents in a less controlled environment).
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I did not look at the problem in this way. Thanks for the information. Pak response to J&K changes has been underwhelming. I was expecting much more. Perhaps Pak propaganda has made them look bigger and meaner than what they are in reality. I am reminded of Major Gaurav Arya's contempt of the fighting prowess of the Pak army in some of his recent programs. There must be some truth in that.
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Postby Sachin » 22 Oct 2019 09:46

J&K shutdown: Flea markets emerge as an alternative
The "cry-a-baby on duty" for DH in Sri Nagar, Zulfikar Majid now says flea markets are being opened and doing brisk business in Sri Nagar. The brick & mortar establishments remain shut, but people have found new ways to buy things :). So people are themselves making alternatives and the Jehadis do not seem to have a control on the Flea markets. All said and done the market economics and the basic instinct in human beings to survive and find alternatives would get this Kashmir Valley problem sorted out.

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Postby pankajs » 22 Oct 2019 10:00

g.sarkar wrote:
Deans wrote:.....
2 million tonnes have to be moved in approx 60 days. At 10 tns per truck, this translates to 3333 trucks per day or 4 lac truck journeys in all (2 lac * to & fro from Kashmir). 4 lac truck journeys on India roads result in an average 3200 accidents and 44 deaths. (Kashmir is similar to the national avg). If 200+ terrorists (estimate of those active in the valley) tasked with disrupting the apple trade, have killed 2 truck drivers out of 2 lac, its a terrible performance by the terrorists. (travel in orderly convoys with an escort will probably save some of the 44 who might be expected to die in road accidents in a less controlled environment).
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I did not look at the problem in this way. Thanks for the information. Pak response to J&K changes has been underwhelming. I was expecting much more. Perhaps Pak propaganda has made them look bigger and meaner than what they are in reality. I am reminded of Major Gaurav Arya's contempt of the fighting prowess of the Pak army in some of his recent programs. There must be some truth in that.
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The next 2 months are going to be very crucial. Bakis haven't given up yet.

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Postby chetak » 22 Oct 2019 10:30

schinnas wrote:Just noticed that Kartarpur corridor agreement is to be signed on Oct 23rd. The Pukis might have planned to conduct a nasty BAT attack or terror attack just before that making it difficult for India to sign the agreement. If India backs out, they would try to whip up Khalistani sentiments.

Whether this was really the case or not, very glad that they got a severe drubbing Sunday night.



one wonders about idiots like gautam ghambir and his puerile antics with regards to visas for pakis.

how is this in his mandate.

what's with the Hindus that they want to kiss that very muslim hand that is ever readily extended to slit their throats.

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Postby Rsatchi » 22 Oct 2019 12:01

chetak wrote:
schinnas wrote:Just noticed that Kartarpur corridor agreement is to be signed on Oct 23rd. The Pukis might have planned to conduct a nasty BAT attack or terror attack just before that making it difficult for India to sign the agreement. If India backs out, they would try to whip up Khalistani sentiments.

Whether this was really the case or not, very glad that they got a severe drubbing Sunday night.



one wonders about idiots like gautam ghambir and his puerile antics with regards to visas for pakis.

how is this in his mandate.

what's with the Hindus that they want to kiss that very muslim hand that is ever readily extended to slit their throats
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Sirji
Who knows??
Maybe now that the original 'Patkadhari' New-Jhoota has been discarded and has gone under the radar he wants to go and face the 'new ball bowler' as he is also an opening bat!! :D

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Postby UlanBatori » 22 Oct 2019 17:33

GG is an excellent thinker and postor, don't diss him pls. I think he is a doc by training as well. His scheme of a very public vija offering to the kid led to an Ophishial Lettar with the Poojya Mantri Himself signing under the 3 gold-embossed lions (and the 4th showing his musharraf). Posted worldwide. How is that not good propaganda?
If PA Jarnails demand to come to Bengaluru hospital for PITA that is a different situation. JMT.

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Postby schinnas » 22 Oct 2019 18:17

@Deans, great analysis to drive home the point of normalcy in Kashmir atleast as far as apple harvesting and trading goes. Thanks.

There is no need to underestimate Paki propensity for creating trouble. They were waiting quietly till Oct 18 for FATF and now that it's over, they tried to get jihadis inside J&K and got royally spanked few days back. They will try to do some other mischief shortly. Next 1 year (until next winter commences) is going to be critical. We cannot loosen our guard.

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Postby KJo » 22 Oct 2019 19:25

I hope we don't continue our bious practices of handing over the bodies of dead terrorists to relatives or burying them Islamically. Just dump them into an incinerator and vaporize them. Gone forever. Like the US did with OBL when they dumped him in the ocean weighed by a heavy rock.

Muslim outrage is drastically overrated. You show spine, they back off.

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Postby KLNMurthy » 22 Oct 2019 21:06

chetak wrote:
schinnas wrote:Just noticed that Kartarpur corridor agreement is to be signed on Oct 23rd. The Pukis might have planned to conduct a nasty BAT attack or terror attack just before that making it difficult for India to sign the agreement. If India backs out, they would try to whip up Khalistani sentiments.

Whether this was really the case or not, very glad that they got a severe drubbing Sunday night.



one wonders about idiots like gautam ghambir and his puerile antics with regards to visas for pakis.

how is this in his mandate.

what's with the Hindus that they want to kiss that very muslim hand that is ever readily extended to slit their throats.


Let me try giving you a serious answer.

When the baseline state is the threat of having one's throat slit, any signal of normal humanity--kindness, display of vulnerability (such as having a child with heart condition) registers as a powerful positive, releasing "happy" endorphins for a time. This can be quite addictive over time. Shorthand for this is "stockholm syndrome."

It makes no sense to blame the addict in this situation, he/shd is only human, and by definition, addiction is something over which one has no control.

Kidnappers, pimps, sadists and paxis understand this well, and use this routinely to exercise control. There may be frustration about being controlled, but the memory of the endorphin high drives the victim to seek the next fix, keeping the paxis in control.

There is an alternative scenario: what if the addict has a powerful big brother with an effective military and economic machine to match, who starts bashing the pimp-paxi each time the cruelty signal is sent by them? Keep in mind that the cruelty signal is a key to generating the happy endorphin at the level needed to keep up little brother's addiction. Without the baseline cruelty as contrast, the "humane & compassionate response" endorphins won't disappear but will return to a normal level. No more addiction. Gambhir may, in time, focus on little sub-saharan girls needing heart surgery, as much as on little paxi girls.

Just kidding. Gambhir probably won't change. Neither will Jaishankar who granted the visa. But in time, if brother Modi keeps bringing the hurt to paxis whenever they play their cruelty card, the Indian nation as a whole will get out of the grip of their addiction and learn to direct their compassion more proportionately where it is needed.


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Postby Rony » 23 Oct 2019 03:29

Aarti Tikoo at Princeton University's campus


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Postby g.sarkar » 23 Oct 2019 04:20

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/k ... 019-10-223 terrorists killed in encounter with security forces in Pulwama in Kashmir
Three Jaish-e-Mohammed terrorists have been killed in an encounter at Tral in South Kashmir's Pulwama region.
Shuja-ul-Haq, Srinagar, October 22, 2019
HIGHLIGHTS
An encounter broke out in a civillian area in Rajpura in J&K's Pulwama district
Three terrorists were shot down by the security forces during encounter
This comes hours after Pakistan violated the ceasefire in Balakote and Mendhar sectors
The security forces on Tuesday killed three terrorists in an encounter at Tral in South Kashmir's Pulwama region.
According to DGP Dilbagh Singh, the terrorists belonged to Pakistan-based terror outfit Jaish-e-Mohammed.
This comes hours after Pakistan violated the ceasefire in Balakote and Mendhar sectors in Poonch district and resorted to unprovoked firing and shelling.
At least two civilians were injured as Pakistan Army resorted to heavy shelling along the LOC in Poonch district of Jammu and Kashmir. The shelling stopped at around 2 pm.
Read | Pakistan requests Indian Army to not violate ceasefire, starts firing at Poonch civilian areas
Read | Army defuses three mortar shells along LoC in Poonch
Watch | J&K: 2 terrorist trapped as encounter breaks out in Pulwama
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Postby Rishirishi » 23 Oct 2019 05:15

2 million tonnes have to be moved in approx 60 days. At 10 tns per truck, this translates to 3333 trucks per day or 4 lac truck journeys in all (2 lac * to & fro from Kashmir). 4 lac truck journeys on India roads result in an average 3200 accidents and 44 deaths. (Kashmir is similar to the national avg). If 200+ terrorists (estimate of those active in the valley) tasked with disrupting the apple trade, have killed 2 truck drivers out of 2 lac, its a terrible performance by the terrorists. (travel in orderly convoys with an escort will probably save some of the 44 who might be expected to die in road accidents in a less controlled environment).


The above sounds dicy . Wikipedia
464,674 collisions which caused 148,707 traffic-related deaths in India
By that ratio there should have been over 1000 deaths.

Any way, the logic is correct the 2 assassinated truckers should not be a material problem. The problems lie in the way media blows the news up. Terrorism and media are like soil and plant. Both thrive with each other.

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Postby CRamS » 23 Oct 2019 09:01

Rony, didn't watch the whole thing, but looks like it was a hostile audience. And from the accents of some of the brainwashed jokers asking questions, they are mostly SDRE India and not Pakis (although I can't be sure).

AartiJi, at times can get into a bit defensive. In response to all this human rights BS, I would like her, as a Hindu to have said that no secular democratic country can allow Islamo fascists to determine the fate a region, and India will never allow secession. Rest is all gas.

Used to live in Princeton several till about 10 years ago, and if I were there, I would have gone and provided some balance :-). That said, anybody know AartiJi's travel schedule?0 Any chance she will be in the Dallas area? A while back Sushil Pandit spoke at our local Hanuman temple.

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Postby Sachin » 23 Oct 2019 09:47

Mean while, whines from Deccan Herald (all intended to create a story that Kashmir Valley is still in turmoil).
J&K mulls to provide security to non-local workers
My question is why are'nt local Kashmiris employed? Or being the standard freeloaders have they become so rich that they don't do any job which involves physical labour?

Don't make Kashmir a graveyard: CPM leader Tarigami
Q. Why there is no protests in Kashmiri streets?
A. How many times you have seen protests in Tihar jail? You should visit Kashmir and see the situation.

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Postby Pathik » 23 Oct 2019 10:54

chetak wrote:
schinnas wrote:Just noticed that Kartarpur corridor agreement is to be signed on Oct 23rd. The Pukis might have planned to conduct a nasty BAT attack or terror attack just before that making it difficult for India to sign the agreement. If India backs out, they would try to whip up Khalistani sentiments.

Whether this was really the case or not, very glad that they got a severe drubbing Sunday night.



one wonders about idiots like gautam ghambir and his puerile antics with regards to visas for pakis.

how is this in his mandate.

what's with the Hindus that they want to kiss that very muslim hand that is ever readily extended to slit their throats.


Am sure majority of visas would be getting rejected, but I believe such antics of compassionate grounds visa once in a while gives us more credibility as a peace loving nation who only 'd(#)ucks' pakistan when pushed to the corner. Just good cop bad cop diplomacy.

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Postby sanjaykumar » 23 Oct 2019 11:01

CRamS, there is no need to articulate anything regarding Islamofascists. The western world has been adequately inoculated for another 2-3 generations against islamoanything.

The twin towers attack was audacious, brilliant and of profound strategic intelligence. However there is no way the west will let islamofascists in peace. The only scenario where Muslims can be masters of even their own house is if they run out of oil. Only then will the US disengage from this war.

India and the US have something in common at last.

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Postby g.sarkar » 23 Oct 2019 13:12

UlanBatori wrote:GG is an excellent thinker and postor, don't diss him pls. I think he is a doc by training as well. His scheme of a very public vija offering to the kid led to an Ophishial Lettar with the Poojya Mantri Himself signing under the 3 gold-embossed lions (and the 4th showing his musharraf). Posted worldwide. How is that not good propaganda?
If PA Jarnails demand to come to Bengaluru hospital for PITA that is a different situation. JMT.

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Postby vijayk » 23 Oct 2019 16:24

Looks like Ilhan Omar made sure her testimony is not heard in Congressional hearing

https://twitter.com/AartiTikoo/status/1 ... 7822653440

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Pakistani Islamists drove me & my community (Kashmiri Hindus) out of Kashmir in 1990, Hindu India denied me voice for 30 years & Islamist
@IlhanMN gagged me today under the chairmanship of Democrat Congressman @BradSherman
Is this democracy? No, it’s IslamoCapitalism talking.



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Every congressional rep from @TheDemocrats @RepJayapal @IlhanMN @tedlieu including their chairman @BradSherman were so afraid of hearing the truth about Kashmir & how Pakistani jihadists have destroyed Hindus & Muslims of #Kashmir, that they censored me from the world. #SHAME


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I dont know if its fair to say Hindu India denied me voice. Fairer to say fake secularism in India drowned your voice while quietly accepting minority communalism as a given.

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Absolutely, I meant that as sarcasm for those who call India a Hindu majoritarian country.

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Postby vanand » 23 Oct 2019 16:44

Vips wrote:NDTV: Owe India Apology...": Indian-American Lawyer Backs J&K Move In US Congress.

Posting full text


Washington:

Terror needs to be eradicated, so rights and freedoms mean something, a top Indian-American attorney has said as several US lawmakers underscored the importance of human rights in Jammu and Kashmir after the revocation of its special status.

Ravi Batra's remarks came while responding to a Congressional subcommittee on human rights in South Asia.

"When you have people afraid to come out of their house because they don't want to be blown up because cross-border terrorism exists as a daily event and homegrown terrorist being nurtured. The first thing somebody wants before they want human rights, they want to live," the attorney from New York told the Subcommittee on Asia, the Pacific, and Nonproliferation of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

"I owe India an apology, as when she suffered the Mumbai Terror attack on November 26, 2008, when Jews and Americans were singled out for death by Pakistan-based terrorists, I joined in arguing for 'restraint'. I was wrong. Terror needs to be eradicated, so our rights and freedoms mean something," Mr Batra said.

He said like former US President Abraham Lincoln, Prime Minister Narendra Modi also took extraordinary steps like legal amendments to have legal authority and then installing a massive force to prevent fatalities in Kashmir from motivated fire-fights by cross-border or home-grown terrorists.

Mr Batra, who was personally invited by Congressman Eliot Engel, Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee to testify on this important issue, referred to PM Modi's argument in abrogating Article 370 of the Constitution that gave special status to Jammu and Kashmir.

"He (PM Modi) said he did this to bring the promise of equal rights and freedoms to all Indians. His actions on August 5, 2019 were judicious, as they were careful. No war broke out. Terrorists were immobilized, as communications and internet were cut off," Mr Batra highlighted.

"India, it seems, learned from her Mumbai terror attack. Indeed, landing at JFK airport, when standing in line for immigration inspection, there is no phone service or internet connection. Safety matters," he said.

Mr Batra also drew a parallel between Jammu and Kashmir and the US states of Louisiana and Alaska. "A simple point worth making: Kashmir was attached to India by a legal decree duly signed by its then-Hindu ruler Maharaja Hari Singh, several months after the needlessly bloody Partition when tens of millions were killed," he said..


And nowadays I see many these kind of news in NDTV, is it mean a paradigm shift.

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Postby pankajs » 23 Oct 2019 17:40

Harish Salve: Why Supreme Court is Unlikely to Void Article 370 Move


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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Kaivalya » 23 Oct 2019 18:32

pankajs wrote:Harish Salve: Why Supreme Court is Unlikely to Void Article 370 Move



Thank you pankajsji - Now I understand why HM&PM say 370 deprives kashmiris of their rights as they are available to other states.

I wish we had more Harish Salves so these kind of subtle differences can be brought to our attention even though the interviewer is hell bent on using words like "trickery" etc. all the way to eliciting a personal opinion to support negative aspersion. I could see the interviewer quibbling for some moral or ethical ground all the way through with none given by Harish Salve.

I think we need a lot more legal experts like Harish Salve, Sai Deepak to answer leftists just like we need more academics and historians to set the record straight

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby ramana » 23 Oct 2019 20:34

Jaitley was the one who put all these arguments before his death.
We truly miss his legal acumen.

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J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Peregrine » 23 Oct 2019 22:17

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Violence and intimidation is wholly unacceptable: Boris Johnson on Kashmir protests on Diwali – PTI

LONDON: British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Wednesday said "violence and intimidation anywhere is wholly unacceptable", as pro-Pakistani demonstrators plan to stage Kashmir protests outside the Indian High Commission here on Diwali day.

During the weekly Prime Minister's Questions session in Parliament, Conservative Party MP Bob Blackman spoke of the violent protests by similar "pro-Pakistani" groups at theLondon mission during Independence Day celebrations on August 15 and sought action to prevent a repeat of the violence.

"This is a police operational matter and the home secretary [Priti Patel] will be raising it with the police," Johnson responded. "We must all be clear in this House that violence and intimidation anywhere is wholly unacceptable in this country," he said.

Blackman has been speaking out in favour of India since the decision to revoke Article 370 and withdrawing the special status of Jammu and Kashmir found echoes among Britain's MPs. The north London MP, who is also chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on British Hindus, has accused the Opposition Labour party of interfering in an internal matter of India.

On Wednesday in Parliament, he said: "In this House, we defence forever the right of peaceful protest. Yet on 15 August, pro-Pakistani organisations held violent protests outside the Indian High Commission.

"This Sunday, there is the threat of 10,000 people being brought to demonstrate outside the Indian High Commission on Diwali, the most holy day for Hindus, Sikhs and Jains. What action is the government going to take to prevent violent protests this Sunday?"

Blackman has also written to London Mayor Sadiq Khan urging him to take steps to ensure the so-called "Free Kashmir" march on Sunday does not proceed.

"I am receiving vast amounts of correspondence from multiple diasporas highlighting concerns which stem from community safety perspectives plus the obviously confrontational date selected: the holy festival of Diwali," he notes in his letter.

Last week, the London Mayor had issued a statement condemning the march and called on the groups to reconsider, while highlighting that the power to ban marches of this nature lies solely with the UK home secretary and not with the mayoral office.

"This march will only deepen divisions at a time when Londoners need to come together. That is why I am calling on those organising the march and all those considering taking part in it to think again and cancel their plans," he said, stressing that his City Hall office would be working with Scotland Yard to ensure a "robust" policing plan was in place for such a march.

According to Metropolitan Police details on the permissions sought for the proposed march, an estimated 5,000-10,000 protesters plan to commence their march from Richmond Terrace near Downing Street and converge outside the Indian High Commission in London.

"This march finishes at the diplomatic missionthe very building which saw prolonged bouts of violence and thuggery in the summer and sadly the building remains scarred from when windows were smashed, objects repeatedly thrown and other ugly scenes," notes Blackman in his letter to Khan, in reference to the violent clashes on August 15.

"After the horrific scenes in August the Hindu, Sikh, Jain and Buddhist diasporas are worried that authorities in the United Kingdom are not doing enough to protect them," he adds

The so-called "Free Kashmir" rally is being promoted across social media channels as an annual "Black Day" event to mark October 27, 1947, as the day when Indian troops allegedly entered the then princely kingdom of Kashmir.

The "President" of Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir, Sardar Masood Khan, and PoK "Prime Minister" Raja Muhammad Farooq Haider Khan are expected to participate in the march on Sunday.

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