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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 17 Nov 2019 10:46

SriKumar wrote:1. As much as I expect senseless brutality from terrorists (e.g. ISIS) Sunanda V.'s recounting of what she saw/heard takes the horror to a new, inhuman level, and this was in the early 90s!!
What Pakistan let loose on India were not humans. I've never heard of woman being sawed into 2 (though I've heard of terrorists using drills in Iraq and Egypt in one case on a woman journalist). Forcing women to eat blood-soaked rice...unbelievable; even animals are not like this.

Sawing humans is nothing new. Mughals did it and these are the descendants of the same people. The idea is to spread fear:
"Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji was tortured for five days, he was made to sit on hot iron plates, and thrown into a cauldron of boiling water. Right in front of Guru Ji, his companion Bhai Mati Dass was sawed in two and Bhai Sati Dass was wrapped in cotton, and hot oil was poured on his body and set on fire."
From realsikhism.com
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Cain Marko » 17 Nov 2019 12:57

SriKumar wrote:
sudarshan wrote:
Looks like they take lessons from each other on how to humiliate and demoralize. I've read on this very forum before, that if Hindu men (anywhere) became aware of an approaching mob, they would grab whatever weapons they could, and *liberate* their women folk before harm came to them. Can you imagine that! As far as being betrayed by neighbors goes, I read a chilling account (again on this forum) by a member (don't want to name, if he wishes, he can retell his story) of three of his aunts (so it was a personal account, not a second- or third-hand one), and what happened when they were trying to escape from Lahore (IIRC) during the partition times. A trusted neighbor apparently offered to take care of putting them on the train (or whatever) to India, only, they were never heard from again.

It's all part of a formula. And that formula has been handed down from the beginning.
I've read about the cutting of breasts of raped victims in a news story that had nothing to do with terrorism (incident happened in Bihar or UP ages ago). Seems like a procedure that some people like to adopt. To try and understand this mind set is to contemplate a level of depravity beyond what I can do. For the same reason, I did not read link posted. And yes, I do recall reading a story by a poster about his aunts (told by his uncle)- not from Lahore IIRC. More eastern geography. If neghbours cannot be trusted, the implications are scary.... For sure, if the mosques blared out messages asking Hindus to leave, the mosques and mullahs are complicit. Dont know how Modi is going to solve this.

I think that we also need to remember that not all neighbors are the same. There have been incidents the other way around as well. My grandma used to narrate to us situations where neighbors helped each other on both sides during the razakar frenzy in Hyderabad state. The situation was terrifying including ghastly tales of babies being impaled on spears.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby sudarshan » 17 Nov 2019 19:41

Cain Marko wrote:I think that we also need to remember that not all neighbors are the same. There have been incidents the other way around as well. My grandma used to narrate to us situations where neighbors helped each other on both sides during the razakar frenzy in Hyderabad state. The situation was terrifying including ghastly tales of babies being impaled on spears.


If, God forbid, it comes to crunch time, on what basis is one to make that split-second decision as to whether or not to trust a neighbor? Especially when some folks have a distinct conflict between their humanity and their religion?

Sunanda ma'am's speech was completely ignored by the western media, so far as I could see. There was some reportage in Indian media, even TOI and Economic Times were reporting it in a positive way.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby SriKumar » 17 Nov 2019 20:50

Cain Marko wrote: I think that we also need to remember that not all neighbors are the same. There have been incidents the other way around as well. My grandma used to narrate to us situations where neighbors helped each other on both sides during the razakar frenzy in Hyderabad state.
I dont like to give rhetorical responses, but in this case, I think the rhetorical response is better than addressing facts. My response to your comment above is: Tell that to Sunanda Vashisht. (I fully agree that all cannot not be brushed with the same broad stoke and stereotyped, but any new facts should also be considered).
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 17 Nov 2019 21:25

You read the above and you see why the netaship of Cash More is in the Centaur-e-Rodentstan (apologies to the tiny critters). They were looking after the real estate INSIDE INDIA!!!!! of terrorists sitting in POrK!!!!!!!!!! Just let that soak into you. They were selling the Valley to the POrKis. Wonder how much more of the real estate inside J&K is "owned" by Pakis? How about Mumbai? Dilli? (I mean other than JNU)? Ayodhya?

While the original owners were languishing in refugee camps!!! :twisted: :evil:

Remember that Pakis cannot be OCIs. So HOW are resident Pakis enabled to own land inside India? Were the JK State Govt and Polis unaware of this? Are POrKi terrorists given Indian passports too? Aadhar cards? Driving licenses? They get Govt baksheesh deposited into their terrorist accounts under MMSji's Right to (not)Work?

I think this situation MUST be spread far and wide via Teetar.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 17 Nov 2019 21:43

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2101042/1- ... -galloway/
These shits obviously not heard Sunanda Vashist's statement at hearing in USA
This Galloway guys is supporting armed rebellion in J&K
Shouldn't the Government take note of this and issue a Demarche to the UK high commissioner??

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 17 Nov 2019 21:49

Phew! I thought I was going to have to waste time inventing some kind greetings to someone in UQ. But no concerns:
Speaking at an international seminar on ‘Human Rights in Indian Occupied Kashmir’ in Karachi, organised by the Centre for Peace, Security and Developmental Studies (CPSD)

See-Bissed must be a subsidiary of the Pakistan Institute of Strategic Studies (BISS)
:rotfl:
But list the British terrorists nevertheless:
George Galloway
Lord Duncan McNair
David Ward
Marcus C Thomlinson

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 17 Nov 2019 22:38

Take THAT, America and the Dunia!
Bakistan will not fight other beebal's wars in future!! No More Mr. Nice Guy!

(Terroristan) suffered a lot due to its policy of becoming a part of foreign conflicts in the past, vowing that the country “from now onwards will only play a con-silly-tory role between rival nations”.

“One main lesson we have learned in the last four decades is that we must not al-Lie ourselves with any country where we have to GUBO and flight someone else’s war,” said the premier while addressing an international conference ‘Margalla Dialogue ’19’ – organised by Islamabad Policy Research Institute (IPRI) in the federal capital on Thursday.

“Initially [in the past] our governments thought that they would gain by becoming a front-lying state and condom for some powerful country… we gained something in the shape of foreign aid but in the end, if we analyse, we lost far far more than what we had gained and were debriefed continuously,” he said, adding, “Many of the problems [our] country have been facing today is the results of the flawed decisions made during 1980s and 1990s.”


Blah-blah :(( Cash-More Bwah- Bwah! :(( deleted

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

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Postby UlanBatori » 18 Nov 2019 01:43

Relief At Last! Pakistan to supply Rooh Afza!
As per the report, RoohAfza, the sherbet made by Hamdard Laboratories, has been off the market for four to five months now.


Would u have seen this precious noose item if u only read AP or WaPO or watched NDTV hain?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Nov 2019 02:03

And watch what u tweet.. 10-day pre-arrest notice to Shehla Rashid
if the need arises to arrest her in the sedition case. The Delhi Police Special Cell had on September 10, 2019, filed an FIR against Rashid for levelling false allegations against the Indian Army on the micro-blogging platform, Twitter. On Friday, the Patiala House Court disposed off Rashid’s anticipatory bail application with these directions after it was told that the investigation is at the preliminary stage. Earlier in September 2019, Rashid was booked for sedition on a criminal complaint by Supreme Court lawyer Alok Srivastav who had sought the arrest of Rashid. The Special Cell of the Delhi Police lodged the FIR under sections 124-A, 153A,153, 504, 505 of the Indian Penal Code (IPC).

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vayutuvan » 18 Nov 2019 02:36

UB ji,

Re. Lord Duncan McNair (from Wikipedia page)

Wikipedia wrote:*Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill[edit]*

In 2011 McNair acted for the successful third party interveners in A, B & C –v- Republic of Ireland, before the Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).[3] This was a landmark case in which the court dismissed a wide range of complaints by A, B and C, claiming lack of access to abortion facilities in Ireland. The court upheld only one complaint brought by the Claimants as to breach by Ireland of Article 8 ECHR (Right to Privacy). In light of the ABC case, the Irish Government introduced[4] the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill to detail the circumstances under which abortions in Ireland could be legally performed. This passed into law in July 2013.[5]


BRF readers would remember the case of an Indian woman dying due to denial of abortion by a hopsital in Ireland.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vayutuvan » 18 Nov 2019 03:03

Re. David Ward

Wikipedia wrote:David Ward (born 24 June 1953) is a British politician who was elected as the Liberal Democrat Member of Parliament (MP) for Bradford East at the 2010 general election.[1] He lost his seat in 2015 when the Labour Party candidate Imran Hussain defeated him by 7,000 votes.[2] Before his election to parliament, he was a councillor in Bradford for 26 years, and returned to local politics in 2016.[3]

In July 2013, he was suspended from the Liberal Democrats Parliamentary party until September 2013, after questioning the continuing existence of the state of Israel and refusing to apologise for his remarks.[4][5][6]

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby CRamS » 18 Nov 2019 03:13

Guys, anybody know the antecedents of Pramila Jaypal. Googling didn't help me establish whether she is a Christian and/or Dravidian. I don't know why the chutiys in India go ga ga over her, but she wears her honorary colonial virulence against India as badge of honor. Likewise, that Khalitsani like dude on the Panel, Sethi whatever. Good thing about him is that while he rants and raves against India, he does so against US as well. So I am sure no one in US takes that clown seriously. If at all India needs to watch out for without going ga ga are snakes who won't raise a little finger at US, but will pour mindless bile on India. They are useful idiots in US propaganda arsenal against India. I mean the Pramila Jaypal type India Americans or perverts like Rana Ayyub, and to a certain extent Burka Bibi and the likes of her in India.

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J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Peregrine » 18 Nov 2019 04:44

Rail services resume in Kashmir Valley, people throng Sunday flea market in Srinagar – PTI

HIGHLIGHTS

- Rail services in Kashmir resumed fully on Sunday, over three months after being suspended due to security reasons

- The train passes through Srinagar station and the stations in south Kashmir before reaching Banihal

- The Railways conducted two trial runs of the service on the Srinagar-Banihal stretch on Saturday


SRINAGAR: Rail services in the Kashmir Valley resumed fully on Sunday – over three months after being suspended due to security reasons- as the train chugged from Srinagar to Banihal through the restive south Kashmir, officials said.

The train passes through Srinagar station and the stations in south Kashmir before reaching Banihal. Srinagar station and the stations in south Kashmir before reaching Banihal.

A railway official told PTI that "rail service in the Valley fully resumed this morning as the train chugged from Baramulla towards Banihal".

The official said there was only one run scheduled for Sunday, while the train would make two runs on daily basis from Monday.

The Railways conducted two trial runs of the service on the Srinagar-Banihal stretch on Saturday and then another trial run on Sunday morning before the actual service started, he added.

Rail service in the valley had partially resumed on Tuesday as the train chugged between Baramulla and Srinagar stretch of the railway line.

The authorities have directed the Railways to ply the trains between 10 am and 3 pm only due to security reasons, the official said.

The train service in the Kashmir valley was suspended due to security reasons on August 3 ahead of the Centre's announcement of abrogation of Article 370 and the bifurcation of the erstwhile state into two Union territories.

The weekly flea market here, meanwhile, witnessed a huge rush of customers, official said.

They said markets remained open around noon[/b], after which shopkeepers downed their shutters to join the protest against abrogation of the special status of Jammu and Kashmir

Few mini-buses have started plying on some routes in the city and elsewhere in the valley, the officials said, adding, cabs and auto-rickshaws were also plying. They said private transport was plying unhindered in the city here and elsewhere in the valley.

Pre-paid mobile phones and all Internet services continued to remain suspended since 5 August.

Most of the top level and second rung separatist politicians have been taken into preventive custody while mainstream leaders including two former chief ministers – Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti -- have been either detained or placed under house arrest.

The government has detained former chief minister and sitting Lok Sabha MP from Srinagar Farooq Abdullah under the controversial Public Safety Act.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Nov 2019 05:57

[quote="Peregrine"] Rail services resume in Kashmir Valley, people throng Sunday flea market in Srinagar – PTI

PROOF that PeeTeeAi gets its neuj from BRF. Look at few posts above: They just inverted the sequence and stole from Daily Excelsior, via UBCN and BRF. HA!!!
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Cain Marko » 18 Nov 2019 06:13

SriKumar wrote:
Cain Marko wrote: I think that we also need to remember that not all neighbors are the same. There have been incidents the other way around as well. My grandma used to narrate to us situations where neighbors helped each other on both sides during the razakar frenzy in Hyderabad state.
I dont like to give rhetorical responses, but in this case, I think the rhetorical response is better than addressing facts. My response to your comment above is: Tell that to Sunanda Vashisht. (I fully agree that all cannot not be brushed with the same broad stoke and stereotyped, but any new facts should also be considered).


sudarshan wrote:
Cain Marko wrote:I think that we also need to remember that not all neighbors are the same. There have been incidents the other way around as well. My grandma used to narrate to us situations where neighbors helped each other on both sides during the razakar frenzy in Hyderabad state. The situation was terrifying including ghastly tales of babies being impaled on spears.


If, God forbid, it comes to crunch time, on what basis is one to make that split-second decision as to whether or not to trust a neighbor? Especially when some folks have a distinct conflict between their humanity and their religion?

Sunanda ma'am's speech was completely ignored by the western media, so far as I could see. There was some reportage in Indian media, even TOI and Economic Times were reporting it in a positive way.


My post seems to have touched a nerve with you two. Wasn't my intention to minimize the horror of SVs experience, in fact I was the first one to post her video. Hope nobody has to experience such things in the future. Just added an anecdote since it was relevant in the context.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vayutuvan » 18 Nov 2019 06:29

Pulikeshi wrote:1. Emotions don’t work, individuals can’t outshine this ‘agenda driven’ idiocy. What is needed is cold calculated documentation to be placed on record.
...


Great observations. While Ms. Vashisht had the required fire in her belly, the first one (from CSIRF?) was driving the agenda without even a single emotional outburst. Similarly, Rep. Jackson while pulling up Ms. Vashisht. We need documentation. Do they have a time limit on the opening statement and/or the deposition?

Where are the HAF folks?

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Postby Vayutuvan » 18 Nov 2019 06:30

CRamS wrote:Guys, anybody know the antecedents of Pramila Jaypal.


Did you check Wikipedia biopage of Rep. Jayapal? I thought there was quite a bit of info in thar hills.

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Postby CRamS » 18 Nov 2019 09:03

I did, but didn't see anything about her antecedents I was looking for. Judjng by her hate for India, the usual BS about "Daleeets" (she even has a fake US accent), the honorary white pedestal she stands on when she talks about or addresses us SDREs, it appears to me that she is either a Dravidian or Christian convert or both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pramila_Jayapal

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Postby Yagnasri » 18 Nov 2019 09:49

CRamS wrote:it appears to me that she is either a Dravidian or Christian convert or both.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pramila_Jayapal


Normally the name Jayapal will be there for EJs. EJs from TN state are normally Davidian periyarvadi fellows.

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Postby A_Gupta » 18 Nov 2019 10:02

CRamS wrote:I did, but didn't see anything about her antecedents I was looking for. Judjng by her hate for India, the usual BS about "Daleeets" (she even has a fake US accent), the honorary white pedestal she stands on when she talks about or addresses us SDREs, it appears to me that she is either a Dravidian or Christian convert or both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pramila_Jayapal


In April 2018, Huffman and three other members of Congress launched the Congressional Freethought Caucus, “to promote sound public policy based on reason, science, and moral values, protect the secular character of our government, and champion the value of freedom of thought worldwide.” The other founders, all House Democrats, include two Catholics (Jerry McNerney of California and Dan Kildee of Michigan) and one Jewish member (Jamie Raskin of Maryland). Several other members of Congress have since joined, including two from the “don’t know/refused” category (Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., and Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Wis.).


Footnote in JANUARY 3, 2019
Faith on the Hill
The religious composition of the 116th Congress
https://www.pewforum.org/2019/01/03/fai ... ef-31062-3

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Postby A_Gupta » 18 Nov 2019 10:06

Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL) took his oath of office on the Bhagavad Gita as did Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), who used the US Constitution as well.


https://www.hafsite.org/hindu-americans ... p-congress

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Postby A_Gupta » 18 Nov 2019 10:10

https://www.firstpost.com/living/indian ... 12814.html

More on Jayapal’s family.

I’d say she’s in the Nehruvian fold nominally Hindu regarding religion, and the Leftist-virtually-Marxist fold regarding social justice; and is a human-rights-as-defined-by-the-West-absolutist.

Contrast-set on the last point:

“DER SPIEGEL: So why cut landlines? For a long time, people were completely unable to communicate with each other.

Jaishankar: Because that's how terrorists would have communicated as well.

DER SPIEGEL: But how were people supposed to call an ambulance if they needed one?

Jaishankar: I'm asking you: How were terrorists supposed to be stopped?

DER SPIEGEL: The fight against terrorism justifies all means?

Jaishankar: What kind of a question is that? Terrorists have killed apple traders in the past few weeks. Grenades have been thrown at markets. People have died. Why don't you focus on any of that?”

https://www.spiegel.de/international/wo ... 96790.html

The human-rights-as-defined-by-the-West-absolutist is incapable of understanding Sri Jaishankar’s point-of-view.
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Postby Aditya_V » 18 Nov 2019 10:13

She is Nehruvian in the sense like him, quote
By education I am an Englishman, by views an internationalist, by culture a Muslim and a Hindu only by accident of birth
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She acts as a Hindu to Bash India and Hindus, it is a fig leaf so show one is self critical.

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Postby A_Gupta » 18 Nov 2019 10:25

Aditya_V wrote:She is Nehruvian in the sense like him, quote
By education I am an Englishman, by views an internationalist, by culture a Muslim and a Hindu only by accident of birth
.

She acts as a Hindu to Bash India and Hindus, it is a fig leaf so show one is self critical.


Apparently that is a fake quote.
https://www.altnews.in/did-jawaharlal-n ... -accident/

More precisely, Nehru did not say that of himself. N.B. Khare said it of Nehru.

Also, Nehru:

“"What is the mysterious, I do not know. I do not call it God because God has come to mean much that I do not believe in. I find myself incapable of thinking of a deity or of any unknown supreme power in anthropomorphic terms, and the fact that many people think so is continually a source of surprise to me. Any idea of a personal God seems very odd to me. Intellectually, I can appreciate to some extent the conception of monism, and I have been attracted towards the advaita (non-dualist) philosophy of the Vedanta…I realise that merely an intellectual appreciation of such matters does not carry one far…The diversity and fullness of nature stir me and produce a harmony of the spirit, and I can imagine myself feeling at home in the old Indian or Greek pagan and pantheistic atmosphere, but minus the conception of God or Gods that was attached to it."”

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vimal » 18 Nov 2019 10:50

A_Gupta wrote:https://www.firstpost.com/living/indian-american-congresswoman-pramila-jayapals-parents-shes-interested-in-social-justice-3112814.html

More on Jayapal’s family.

I’d say she’s in the Nehruvian fold nominally Hindu regarding religion, and the Leftist-virtually-Marxist fold regarding social justice; and is a human-rights-as-defined-by-the-West-absolutist.



From that article this caught my eye:

About Pramila’s 19-year-old son, Janak, who was born in Mumbai, the proud grandmother says, "He was born at six months, weighed only 750 gm. It’s amazing that he has grown up to be this handsome man. He’s a musician, took up African American literature. :roll:

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Postby Vayutuvan » 18 Nov 2019 11:22

A_Gupta wrote:
Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL) took his oath of office on the Bhagavad Gita as did Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), who used the US Constitution as well.


https://www.hafsite.org/hindu-americans ... p-congress


I met raja k's dad in a very small upanayana ceremony celebrated at home. I, my 'uncle', and rk's dad sat at a small table and ate food with our hands. he is a totally dhArmic man - mechanical Engg professor at a reasonably well known Midwestern pvt. uni.

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Postby Vayutuvan » 18 Nov 2019 11:24

Aditya_V wrote:She is Nehruvian in the sense like him, quote
By education I am an Englishman, by views an internationalist, by culture a Muslim and a Hindu only by accident of birth
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She acts as a Hindu to Bash India and Hindus, it is a fig leaf so show one is self critical.


or catholic guilt.

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Postby UlanBatori » 18 Nov 2019 19:36

I posted Sunandaji's video on fB. A total of 2 likes, of which one was from India. A young relative whom I have had some success in brainwashing.
Instead the rest Forward idiotic WhatsApp videos stating the Procedures that the Empiyah will follow when QE2 kicks the bucket.
A message saying "Long Bridge Hath Fallen" will go out.
etc. :roll:
(that's what we used to say as children when we dropped a nice long one into the pakistan..)
Supreme HQ made me go search Googleswara to see what the occasion was, but I c there is no such news...

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Postby sudarshan » 18 Nov 2019 19:38

Cain Marko wrote:My post seems to have touched a nerve with you two. Wasn't my intention to minimize the horror of SVs experience, in fact I was the first one to post her video. Hope nobody has to experience such things in the future. Just added an anecdote since it was relevant in the context.


No not at all. Was just asking - is there a practical way to tell which neighbor can be trusted, and which one cannot? Or just play safe and not trust any of them?

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Postby CRamS » 18 Nov 2019 20:40

Yesterday's (Sunday) DDM newspapers were all over screaming eye-eye-yo, the white west is criticizing "India's democratic credentials". And they cite first and foremost detention of traitors like Farooq Abdullah, Mufti etc in the valley. Hoping and praying that ModiJi continues this tough policy in the valley until the Muslims there turn around and shed their 'azaadi' fantasy and show genuine break away from colluding with Paki terror plots.

And ToILeT even said India's entire democratic set up is at stake because one bloody insignificant half Paki pipsqueak, Aaatish Taseer (whose mom is at the pyramid of Lutyen entitled elite), was caught lying on his form for PIO card and hence was barred.

It is true that Aaatish has the 'power' to nake a lot of anti-India, anti-BJP, anti-ModiJi noise: He is talented enough as a writer to be now part of the US elite as an honorary white, he is an elite homosexual (and I don't mean this in a derogatory sense), bunch of Nobel Laureates came to his aid, and is literally worshiped by India's Lutyen brigade. But I hope ModiJi does not buckle under all this pressure.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 18 Nov 2019 20:50

^
I second that. Good to see the Indian government taking some tough measures. I think as you yourself pointed out before, India's 'democratic credentials" or its being secular and plural, didn't bring about bouquets of approval from the NY Times( who have had strong anti-India positions on the Kashmir issue going back to the 1990s) and other news agencies. So where is the 'image' that has taken a beating in their eyes?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby mmasand » 18 Nov 2019 21:01

Vayutuvan wrote:UB ji,

BRF readers would remember the case of an Indian woman dying due to denial of abortion by a hopsital in Ireland.


Ireland went onto amend it's constitution soon after, however, Northern Ireland has only just begun the process of abolishing their archaic laws despite being largely Protestant.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vishvak » 18 Nov 2019 21:09

India's 'democratic credentials" or its being secular and plural, didn't bring about bouquets of approval ..

Guess it's all a given, not withstanding on back of Indians. That doesn't work however because Indians have learnt not to hand over loot and plunder to next rising looter (Chinese) while previous ones are standing in line too.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 19 Nov 2019 07:52

Daily updates from UBCN.
1. TOILet: Shops Open All Din in Cashmore Valley

complete normalcy was restored in Kashmir Valley on Monday with shops open all day and buses plying
For the first time in 105 days, unauthorised hawkers in busy areas like Lal Chowk - who used spaces outside closed shops.. could not set up their business..
Situation Naaarmal !

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 19 Nov 2019 07:54

Properties of Hizb terrorist leaders confiscated.
That's old news now.

Also 4 terrorists captured.
Meanwhile, four suspected militants, reportedly linked with the Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), were arrested during different raids. ”The accused were involved in an Improvised Explosive Device (IED) blast and also aided militants on several occasions,” sources stated. The accused were being questioned and more arrest could happen in the coming days, they added. (AGENCIES)



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