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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 29 Dec 2019 02:15

I am upset too. the Sheikh's birthday, death day, marriage day, birth of his children's days, all should be declared national holidays.
https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/nc-angui ... ks-review/
NC anguished over deletion of Sheikh Abdullah’s birth anniversary from calendar, seeks review
By Daily Excelsior -29/12/2019

Excelsior Correspondent
JAMMU, Dec 28: Expressing anguish over deletion of birth anniversary of Sheikh Mohammed Abdullah from the official Jammu and Kashmir Holiday Calendar 2020, National Conference today sought review in the decision, saying the contribution of Sher-e-Kashmir in democratic awakening of his people cannot be undermined, as it stands acclaimed nationally and internationally.
“Sheikh Abdullah was a visionary mass leader and statesman who rejected two-nation theory of Mohammed Ali Jinnah over secularism of the Father of Nation Mahatma Gandhi”, Provincial President Devender Singh Rana said while addressing a press conference at Sher-e-Kashmir Bhavan here this evening. He was flanked by senior party leaders including former ministers Ajay Kumar Sadhotra and Surjeet Singh Slathia besides Rattan Lal Gupta, Th Rachpal Singh, Babu Ram Pal and Trilochan Singh Wazir.
Rana said the towering personality of Sher-e-Kashmir cannot be confined in the myopic prism of regional politics, as he fought for democracy when the entire nation was struggling to break the shackles of British under Mahatma Gandhi. Being contemporary of Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru, Frontier Gandhi Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan, Maualana Abul Kalam Azad and many other national leaders, Sheikh Sahib fought for the marginalized people of Jammu and Kashmir, irrespective of region, religion, caste or creed. His exemplary role during the horrendous days of partition was acknowledged by the suffering masses of the entire sub-continent which got reflection in the sentiments of the Mahatma, who had observed ‘light of ray emanated from the soil of Kashmir’, he added.
Enumerating the observations of luminaries like former President Neelam Sanjiva Reddy about inspiring leadership of Sher-e-Kashmir, describing him as Sher-e-Bharat, the Provincial President said similar sentiments echoed again in the December 1990 Monograph of Lok Sabha Secretariat with eminent parliamentarians of the era sharing their sentiments about political philosophy of Sheikh Abdullah in voluminous compendium. He quoted Pt Jawaharlal Nehru saying, Sheikh Abdullah is Jammu and Kashmir and Jammu and Kashmir is Sheikh Abdullah. Similarly, Atal Behari Vajpayee described Sher-e-Kashmir as identity of J&K while L K Advani said, “For decades, Kashmir’s politics has come to be identified with the personality of the Sheikh”.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Gerard » 29 Dec 2019 07:03

What a silly pretentious title. Sher-e-Kashmir. If these clowns so admire him, let them name their children after him. In fact they can all change their names to Mohammed Abdullah.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 29 Dec 2019 08:02

Imagine! RaGa will one day be remembered as Gaand-e-Amethi!

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Postby Vikas » 30 Dec 2019 16:40

“Sheikh Abdullah was a visionary mass leader and statesman who rejected two-nation theory of Mohammed Ali Jinnah over secularism of the Father of Nation Mahatma Gandhi”, Provincial President Devender Singh Rana said while addressing a press conference at Sher-e-Kashmir Bhavan here this evening. He was flanked by senior party leaders including former ministers Ajay Kumar Sadhotra and Surjeet Singh Slathia besides Rattan Lal Gupta, Th Rachpal Singh, Babu Ram Pal and Trilochan Singh Wazir.


Devender Singh Rana is brother of Dr. Jitendra Singh (MoS in PMO) while rest of the luminaries are from Jammu (mostly Dogras), A region which Abdullah crushed with heavy hand and total religious discrimination.
Talk about Dhimmis and Chameleons.

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Postby pankajs » 30 Dec 2019 19:33

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... d-6191684/
Five Kashmiri political leaders, detained since August 5, released
The political leaders were released from MLA hostel, located on the banks of Dal Lake, where thirty-four political detainees were shifted. Two other detainees-Dilawar Mir of the PDP and Ghulam Hassan Mir of the Democratic Party Nationalist- were released last month.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 30 Dec 2019 22:05

https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/ ... 4453227520
Raghav Ohri @raghavohri0

CBI conducting searches 13 locations in Srinagar, Jammu, Gurgaon and Noida at the premises of then DC/DM Kupwara, Barmula, Udhampur, Kishtwar, Sopian, Rajouri, Doda, Pulwama, in a probe of 2 cases releated to allegations of issuance of around 2 lakh Arms Licences by DC/DMs

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Postby Vikas » 31 Dec 2019 11:01

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/1211537414453227520
Raghav Ohri @raghavohri0

CBI conducting searches 13 locations in Srinagar, Jammu, Gurgaon and Noida at the premises of then DC/DM Kupwara, Barmula, Udhampur, Kishtwar, Sopian, Rajouri, Doda, Pulwama, in a probe of 2 cases releated to allegations of issuance of around 2 lakh Arms Licences by DC/DMs


2 Lakh arms licenses ? What were they doing ? Trying to create an Army ?
The number looks suspiciously high especially knowing how hard it is to get an Arms license anywhere in India.

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Postby Yagnasri » 31 Dec 2019 13:10

56 police got hurt with bullet wounds in anti CAA riots in UP alone. Lot of illegal arms are already there. There is in fact big illegal arms industry in India also. The problem is only criminal and terrorist end up having weapons and not common people. The arms act only ensured common people are unarmed. That is all.

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Postby UlanBatori » 31 Dec 2019 14:48

Vikas wrote:
pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/1211537414453227520
2 Lakh arms licenses ? What were they doing ? Trying to create an Army ?
The number looks suspiciously high especially knowing how hard it is to get an Arms license anywhere in India.


IIRC, in the late 90s, Village Defence Councils(?) were formed as the only hope of countering the nocturnal vijits of the L-e-T. I assume that this was the rationale, but of course what happened in reality is as usual open to question. There were a few incidents where terrorists were at least scared off - or probably decided to go murder somewhere else. Were they scared off - or bought off with weapons/ammo - one wonders, but maybe it DID serve some of the functions of a "local Army" as in the western movies.

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Postby Vikas » 31 Dec 2019 16:11

UlanBatori wrote:
Vikas wrote:2 Lakh arms licenses ? What were they doing ? Trying to create an Army ?
The number looks suspiciously high especially knowing how hard it is to get an Arms license anywhere in India.


IIRC, in the late 90s, Village Defence Councils(?) were formed as the only hope of countering the nocturnal vijits of the L-e-T. I assume that this was the rationale, but of course what happened in reality is as usual open to question. There were a few incidents where terrorists were at least scared off - or probably decided to go murder somewhere else. Were they scared off - or bought off with weapons/ammo - one wonders, but maybe it DID serve some of the functions of a "local Army" as in the western movies.


Looks like everyone got licences including armed forces too (Do SF need gun licence for official duty ??).
Bit dated news but still gives good insight.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 318355.cms

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr

It was also alleged that the then public servants received illegal gratification in issuance of licences to non-residents of Jammu and Kashmir in violation of rules, they said.
The case was handed over to the CBI on the basis of a recommendation from Rajasthan Director General of Police OP Galhotra as the anti-terror squad (ATS) had busted a racket related to the matter.

TThe Rajasthan ATS had estimated that around 4.29 lakh arms licences were issued in the last decade from various districts of militancy-hit Jammu and Kashmir.

The CBI is searching the premises of Mudgil, a 2007-batch IAS officer, the then DC Baramulla, Rajiv Ranjan, a 2010-batch IAS officer, then DC Kupwara, Itrat Hussain, the then DM Kupwara, Salim Mohammed, the then DM Kishtwar, Mohammed Junaid Khan, the then DM Kishtwar, FC Bhagat, the then DM Rajouri, Farooq Ahmed Khan, the then DM Doda and Jenhagir Ahmed Mir, the then DM Pulwama, the officials said.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 31 Dec 2019 18:22

Why does naam Rajiv Ranjan sound familiar? Did he evolve into a Harsh Mander-2?

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Postby vishvak » 31 Dec 2019 20:43

Apparently there are few Rajiv Ranjan in mediia (first two names).

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sanju » 01 Jan 2020 00:03

Yagnasri wrote:56 police got hurt with bullet wounds in anti CAA riots in UP alone. Lot of illegal arms are already there. There is in fact big illegal arms industry in India also. The problem is only criminal and terrorist end up having weapons and not common people. The arms act only ensured common people are unarmed. That is all.


Yagnsari ji that number has been updated to 61. :(

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Postby Vikas » 02 Jan 2020 12:09

UlanBatori wrote:Why does naam Rajiv Ranjan sound familiar? Did he evolve into a Harsh Mander-2?


Looks like this was tip of the iceberg. The wires of this scandal seems to be connected far and wide.

https://www.firstpost.com/india/top-jam ... 47561.html

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Vikas wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:Why does naam Rajiv Ranjan sound familiar? Did he evolve into a Harsh Mander-2?

Looks like this was tip of the iceberg. The wires of this scandal seems to be connected far and wide.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/top-jam ... 47561.html


ramana, this is one of many smoking guns (pun intended) about why 370 had to be scrapped and the state kleptocracy taken over by UT (kleptocracy?)
Impossible to bring rule of law without this.

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Vikas wrote:
pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/1211537414453227520


2 Lakh arms licenses ? What were they doing ? Trying to create an Army ?
The number looks suspiciously high especially knowing how hard it is to get an Arms license anywhere in India.


things become clearer when you understand that many of these licenses are valid on an all India basis.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby ramana » 03 Jan 2020 05:06

Gerard wrote:What a silly pretentious title. Sher-e-Kashmir. If these clowns so admire him, let them name their children after him. In fact they can all change their names to Mohammed Abdullah.


He is Billi-e-Cashmere.
Looted lots of money from India and US too!!!

Those guys look like Dhimmi faction of NC allowed to sing praises for B-e-C.

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Postby Vikas » 03 Jan 2020 11:04

ramana wrote:
Gerard wrote:What a silly pretentious title. Sher-e-Kashmir. If these clowns so admire him, let them name their children after him. In fact they can all change their names to Mohammed Abdullah.


He is Billi-e-Cashmere.
Looted lots of money from India and US too!!!

Those guys look like Dhimmi faction of NC allowed to sing praises for B-e-C.


Ramana Ji, You are still keeping him in the cat family. He was Hyena-e-Kashmir. His family till now was collecting rent money from Delhi.
As much as I hate to admit this, Non-Muslims of J&K are full of Dhimmis still singing ayats in his honor including Dogra, Gujjar, KP and almost all the Sikhs.


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Postby Supratik » 04 Jan 2020 17:41

This is a bad idea. There can be some reservation in UT govt jobs and restrictions in construction in ecologically sensitive areas. Rest should be similar to all other states e.g. restricting education to domiciles only is regressive.

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The Centre is all set to provide protection to domiciles of Jammu and Kashmir in government jobs, educational institutions and land rights, a senior government official said on Friday.

The Centre is exploring the option of implementing the mandatory requirement of continuous stay in the region for a minimum of 15 years before applying for a job in government sector and admissions in schools and colleges in the Union Territory of J&K.


So they dont want others from Rest of India to come and settle ? Whats the point of removing Article 370 then if its not taken to its logical conclusion ?

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Postby Gerard » 05 Jan 2020 08:07

LeT millitant arrested in Srinagar
A Lashkar-e-Taiba millitant was arrested from a hospital here on Saturday, police said.

Nisar Ahmad Dar, a resident of the Hajin area of Bandipore district in north Kashmir, was arrested by the Special Operations Group of the Jammu and Kashmir Police from Shri Maharaja Hari Singh Hospital in the city, a police official said.


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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby ritesh » 05 Jan 2020 23:24

Supratik wrote:This is a bad idea. There can be some reservation in UT govt jobs and restrictions in construction in ecologically sensitive areas. Rest should be similar to all other states e.g. restricting education to domiciles only is regressive.

This concern was also raised earlier by Shri Sushil Pandit that it is akin to taking 1 step forward and 2 back. These kinds of flip flops only raise morale of the moslems which will or can have repercussions else where as well.

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I think it is again a planted story, there shouldn’t be any such restriction in place.

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Postby Rsatchi » 10 Jan 2020 12:11

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 183007.cms
How is internet fundamental right???
What of pre-STD and Mobile phone days??
I sometimes wonder what get into 'Hizzz Honours'
Now all that it take for Leftist/Jihadi/Paki combine to go to town with denial of basic rights!!

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Postby Sachin » 10 Jan 2020 12:34

^^ The Supreme Court verdict is just about asking GoI to "review" the restrictions in J&K in one week's time. GoI can do this "review" and still say after that they find merit to retain these restrictions. Supreme Court has NOT asked any order/circular to be withdrawn or anulled any laws/acts related to converting J&K from a state to UT. So by all practical means; Jammu and Kashmir state has become Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh Union Territories. Abdullahs, Muftis et. al will have to now seek alternate employement.

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Postby Vikas » 10 Jan 2020 15:48

I believe With passage of time, access to telecom services will become basic human rights even if you are dying because of pollution and corruption.

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Postby wig » 10 Jan 2020 16:18

Human Rights appears to be a self serving term to be used. Since 1954 the disgraceful and mischevious intent of Art 35A and Art 370 did not constitute a violation of Human Rights of women, Gurkhas, displaced persons from Pakistan, Dalits brought from Punjab as Safai Karamcharis and various other sections of society. And this very court had been adjourning cases time and again on one pretext or the other when Art 370 or Art 35A was brought up. A division bench of the J&K high court took an inordinately long period to examine the rights of women before it issued a judgement.

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Postby Vikas » 10 Jan 2020 16:58

^ In J&K, Who-Man rights mean rights for only one set of people, rest all can enjoy the vale of Kashmir and listen to sermons on Kashmiriyat.

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Postby Deans » 10 Jan 2020 22:30

While I am a huge supporter of the govt's initiative on article 370 (my posts would make that clear), I think the continued internet restrictions in
Kashmir are now becoming counter-productive and give a convenient issue for critics to beat us with. Development has to be pursued on a war footing. I have visited the valley last Feb and more recently in Oct and the general impression is that governance under Governor's rule has been no different from earlier. Relatively simple things like not enough vehicles to clear snow on roads, power outages due to a crumbling distribution system etc.

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Postby Vikas » 10 Jan 2020 23:30

Deans Ji, End of the day, it is the incompetent fat cats who have been raised on no work but loads of money that are the face of the govt. It will take atleast 4-5 years before you would see a competent administration.

Meanwhile internet restrictions are saving lives in Kashmir

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Postby UlanBatori » 11 Jan 2020 08:58

MAD may want to quickly bring in the carpet-bagger equivalents. ppl who know how to get things done, and are hungry enough. The promise of development needs to get moving fast, and that requires effective governance.

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Postby amitverma » 11 Jan 2020 09:57

If mobile services & the internet become fundamental human rights, then you can't deny them to prisoners.
You can't deny them to terrorists rotting in jails.

You can't put any limitations in schools & colleges on mobile phones.
You can't put any limitations on mobile phones in the workplace.

Many examples will come where this statement of "basic human right" will not be applicable.

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Postby Deans » 11 Jan 2020 11:17

Vikas wrote:Deans Ji, End of the day, it is the incompetent fat cats who have been raised on no work but loads of money that are the face of the govt. It will take atleast 4-5 years before you would see a competent administration.

Meanwhile internet restrictions are saving lives in Kashmir


Post Aug 19, would have been a good opportunity to replace the governor with say Lt Gen Hasanin, or the former northern army commander Lt Gen Anbu, instead of the current incumbent, who has had no experience outside of Gujarat. Similarly, get IAS officers of proven ability to replace some of the the current state service guys. My article in Swarajya touches on some of these points.
https://swarajyamag.com/blogs/naya-jammu-and-kashmir-the-way-forward

Violence and deaths are down in Kashmir. the problem is one cannot quantify if it was due to the internet restrictions. Reduced violence builds the case that if situation is returning to normal, why have internet restrictions.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 11 Jan 2020 16:51

https://t.co/8tib8sEsAn?amp=1
Is this true??
Or is this all Dimran/Mahathir bullshit

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Aditya_V » 11 Jan 2020 17:56

Obviously BS


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