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Postby shravanp » 17 Jan 2020 22:36

My ideal vision for future -
1. Pandits resettled in Kashmir. For those who have already moved on and not feasible to return, their rights over the lands/properties they lost, must be recognized. They must get a fixed share of land, for which the Pandits can use it as vacation homes, make business out of it (if they so desire) like air bnb, or simply live there in case they want to move back.

2. All broken temples be reconstructed. Especially Martand Sun temple.

3. Any political aspirants should be subject to background check for their past affiliations prior to entering politics. On a side node, it is quite shocking that India provides easy access on public stage for any random guy on street to mouth of morality. To influence public at large, should be treated as privilege and that should be given only after thorough background check. Should prevent Mulayams, Laloos, Pawars, or Abdullahs type political leaches to come up.

4. Annex additional 10 miles of LoC on PoK side, to make it buffer zone

What else?

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Postby chetak » 17 Jan 2020 22:37

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Hilal Ahmed Rather, son of 3 time National conference MLA & ex Finance MINISTER Abdul Rahim Rather, diverted ₹177 crore in business loans from J&K Bank to build personal assets abroad, including an eight Bedroom villa on a Dubai Island.
Reason why they want special status back




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Postby UlanBatori » 17 Jan 2020 22:45

Russia's proposed constitution has some interesting provisions on who can be elected. Maybe worth a scan.

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Postby Peregrine » 17 Jan 2020 23:05

Lukewarm response to Kashmir issue from international community, admits Imran Khan – ANI

BONN (GERMANY): Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on Friday admitted that there are no takers of the Kashmir issue from the international community.

In an interview with DW, a German state owned public international broadcaster, Khan said that there has been a "lukewarm response" to the Kashmir issue and said that "commercial interests are more important for the Western countries".

"Unfortunately, commercial interests are more important for Western countries. India is a big market and that is the reason behind the lukewarm response to what is happening to some 8 million people in Kashmir, as well as to minorities in India," he said.

"Sadly, yes. Consider the sort of media attention the Hong Kong protests are getting. The tragedy of Kashmir is much greater," Khan told DW's Ines Pohl when asked whether the world is paying little attention to the Kashmir issue. Khan once again devoted a major part of his interview by raking up anti-India rhetorics and said that New Delhi did not respond to Pakistan's peace overtures because of what he called "RSS ideology"

Asked about the rise in tension between India and Pakistan after New Delhi revoked Article 370 for Jammu and Kashmir, Khan said: "I was the first leader to warn the world about what is happening in India. India has been taken over by an extremist ideology known as 'Hindutva.' It is the ideology of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS)."

"The RSS, a political organisation founded in 1925, was inspired by the German Nazis, and its founding fathers believed in racial supremacy. Just as the Nazi ideology was built on hatred for minorities, the RSS ideology is also based on hatred for Muslims and other minorities, including Christians," he continued.

"After I became prime minister, I made an effort to talk to the Indian government and Prime Minister Modi. In my first speech as prime minister, I said that if India moved one step forward, we would take two steps toward to resolve our differences. But I soon came to know that India did not respond well to my offer because of the RSS ideology," he stated.

Khan made the comments days after China and Pakistan held an informal closed door consultation on Kashmir in the UN Security Council in New York, more than five months after India abrogated the special status of Jammu and Kashmir granted under Article 370 of the Indian Constitution in August.

India's ministry of external affairs spokesperson Raveesh Kumar on Thursday said that the overwhelming majority of the UNSC believed that the world body was not the right forum to discuss the Kashmir issue.

"An effort was made by Pakistan through a member of UNSC to once again misuse the platform of UNSC. The overwhelming majority of UNSC was of the view that the UNSC was not the right forum for such issues and it should be discussed bilaterally between India and Pakistan," Kumar had said during the weekly press briefing in New Delhi.

"The formal closed-door meeting, therefore, ended without any outcome. In our view, it was once again highlighted Pakistan desperate measures to peddle baseless allegations and present an alarming scenario it lacks any credibility," the spokesperson said.

The UNSC's closed-door meeting was called to discuss an issue relating to an African country. China made a request to deliberate on the Kashmir issue under the agenda of "Any Other Business Points." No other UNSC member, barring China, commented on the meeting after it ended given that it was an informal consultation.

India has time and again made it clear that the Kashmir issue is a bilateral matter between India and Pakistan and there is no scope for third-party mediation.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Jan 2020 13:39

https://twitter.com/ahmedalifayyaz/stat ... 2047475713
Ahmed Ali Fayyaz @ahmedalifayyaz

● Killings/injuries
● Militant attacks
● Stone pelting
● Recruitment of militants
● Infiltration of militants
● Threats/abuses on social media
● Complaints of human rights abuse

Lowest of the last 6 years in #Kashmir in the period 05-08-2019 to 05-01-2020. REASON?

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Postby pankajs » 19 Jan 2020 13:25

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1218544964029702145
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Syed Altaf Bukhari, Former J&K Finance Minister and PDP leader: No one died after the abrogation of Article 370 in J&K, for this the credit goes to the government as well as to the people of Jammu and Kashmir. I want to congratulate both of them.
A change of heart?

Just as Ahmed Ali Fayyaz, the Kashmir jurno had predicted "I firmly believe that all these mainstream Kashmiri politicians in NC, PDP, PC etc will gradually reconcile to the fait accompli, delete 370 from their memory & seek role in the politics of 'competitive nationalism' of Modi-Shah"

Seems like it!

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Postby Yagnasri » 20 Jan 2020 16:49

From the statements they are making they want a similar status as that of the other hill states. Statehood with no outsider can buy land & no jobs to outsiders etc drama. 370 by another name. That drama will be the next one.

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Postby manjgu » 20 Jan 2020 18:32

How the he'll is jk a hill state ..90% of population is on flat ground !!

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Postby Vikas » 20 Jan 2020 20:24

Can any state govt on its own stop outsiders from buying land or applying for Govt job ?
If yes, then denizens of the said state must not be allowed to own property anywhere in India or apply for any jobs outside their own state.

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Postby Yagnasri » 20 Jan 2020 20:43

That is not the way. It will only increase the division. We shall be allowed to buy there and they should be allowed to buy here. As far as jobs are concerned. Better transfer people from other UTs there and transfer the locals to other UTs. There is serious anti-Hindu bias in job recruitment in J&K for decades. Now that has to be addressed asap.

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Postby KJo » 20 Jan 2020 21:05

I am not in favor of treating Kashmiris as a whole any different. They are Indians just like everyone else. If they don't like it, then they can move to Pakistan or Arabia. The KPs need to be rehabilitated and special schemes be put in place to get them on their feet again for a set period of time after which those crutches are removed. Everyone should be able to buy land in JK as they want. Let the KMs do a honest day's work just like everyone else and no mooch off Hindus while claiming Islamic superiority.

I think a special Cabinet level mantri needs to be appointed to oversee troubled states like JK, Nagaland etc.

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Postby Rishirishi » 21 Jan 2020 04:20

Kashmir should be made a showcase state of multicultural India, where all communities live and thrive together. It must make sure hundreds of thousands of jobs are created. Also give good schemes to builders for good quality housing development. Perhaps consider Chinease builders for a few hudred thousand units :D (they have good experiance with building large intigrated cities, within record time)

Once the state starts to reflect the rest of the Indian population all problems with Kashmir will be gone.

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Postby Rony » 21 Jan 2020 18:13

Disintegration of Hizbul Mujahideen and why it’s on the verge of extinction

Read more at: https://www.mynation.com/views/disinteg ... ion-q4g5mw

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Postby Varoon Shekhar » 21 Jan 2020 20:13

Damn! Two security personnel lose their lives. They should take out 20 or more terrorists and their supporters to avenge this.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/army- ... wama-29570

Srinagar, January 21

An Army jawan, a special police officer (SPO) were killed and two militants were gunned down on Tuesday in an encounter in Jammu and Kashmir’s Pulwama district, police said.

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Postby nam » 21 Jan 2020 20:46

It is fascinating that "world's biggest nuke flashpoint" got resolved by putting couple of hundred jokers in prison. And the local leaders in 5 star hotel.

It has been 5 months now. No nuke has landed, not infitada nothing, no tv meltdown..nothing.

The solution was always simple. Keep them off the tv... the peace returns. When GoI really applies danda... everyone falls in line.

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Postby Vikas » 21 Jan 2020 23:00

J&K would have been like any other state of the union only if successive govts would have treated it like any other state and not pampered it with money, Kashmiriyat and benign indifference.
Each one of the central interlocuter thought that path to peace runs thru Abdullah family first and Kashmiri Muslims second. Rest all were treated like Jews in Poland.

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Postby ramana » 21 Jan 2020 23:58

Rony wrote:Disintegration of Hizbul Mujahideen and why it’s on the verge of extinction

Read more at: https://www.mynation.com/views/disinteg ... ion-q4g5mw



Just four years late and in different way then Gen. Paddy envisioned in his book!

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Postby ramana » 21 Jan 2020 23:59

KJo wrote:I am not in favor of treating Kashmiris as a whole any different. They are Indians just like everyone else. If they don't like it, then they can move to Pakistan or Arabia. The KPs need to be rehabilitated and special schemes be put in place to get them on their feet again for a set period of time after which those crutches are removed. Everyone should be able to buy land in JK as they want. Let the KMs do a honest day's work just like everyone else and no mooch off Hindus while claiming Islamic superiority.

I think a special Cabinet level mantri needs to be appointed to oversee troubled states like JK, Nagaland etc.



Exactly what Congress was thinking since 1988.

NO.

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Postby Peregrine » 22 Jan 2020 17:30

Pakistan has 'limited options' to respond to India's decision on J & K: US Congress think tank

WASHINGTON: Pakistan's leadership has "limited options" to respond to India's decision on Jammu and Kashmir as many analysts view that Islamabad has "little credibility" on the issue given its long history of covertly supporting militant
groups there, according to a US Congressional report.

The Congressional Research Service(CRS) in its second report on Kashmir in less than six months also said that Pakistan's ability to alter the status quo through military action has been reduced in recent years, meaning that Islamabad likely must rely primarily on diplomacy.

CRS is the independent research wing of the US Congress which prepares periodic reports on issues of interest for US lawmakers so that they can take informed decisions inside the Congress. Currently, two resolutions are pending in the House of Representatives, one of which is being sponsored by Indian-American Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal.

In its report dated January 13, CRS said that post August 5, Pakistan “appeared diplomatically isolated”, with Turkey being the only country to offer solid and explicit support for Islamabad's position.

Ties between India and Pakistan came under severe strain after New Delhi revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status and bifurcated it into two Union Territories on August 5, evoking strong reactions from Islamabad.

Pakistan has been trying to rally international support against India on the issue. However, India has maintained that the move was "entirely an internal matter".

The 25-page report said that Pakistan called for a UNSC session and, with China's support, the Council met on August 16 to discuss Kashmir for the first time in more than five decades, albeit in a closed-door session that produced no formal
statement.

“Many analysts view Islamabad as having little credibility on Kashmir, given its long history of covertly supporting militant groups there. Pakistan's leadership has limited options to respond to India's actions, and renewed Pakistani support for Kashmiri militancy likely would be costly internationally,” it said.

“Pakistan's ability to alter the status quo through military action has been reduced in recent years, meaning that Islamabad likely must rely primarily on diplomacy,” the CRS said.

“Given also that Pakistan and its primary ally, China, enjoy limited international credibility on human rights issues, Islamabad may stand by and hope that self-inflicted damage caused by New Delhi's own policies in Kashmir and, more recently, on citizenship laws, will harm India's reputation and perhaps undercut its recent diplomatic gains with Arab states such as Saudi Arabia and the UAE,” it said.

According to CRS, the long-standing US position on Kashmir is that the issue should be settled through negotiations between India and Pakistan while taking into consideration the wishes of the Kashmiri people.

“The Trump Administration has called for peace and respect for human rights in the region, but its criticisms have been relatively muted,” it noted.

With key US diplomatic posts vacant, some observers worry that the US government's capacity to address South Asian instability is thin, and the US President's July offer to “mediate” on Kashmir may have contributed to the timing
of New Delhi's moves, it said.

The United States seeks to balance pursuit of a broad US-India partnership while upholding human rights protections, as well as maintaining cooperative relations with Pakistan, the report said.

CRS said that following India's August 2019 actions, numerous Members of the US Congress went on record in support of Kashmiri human rights. H.Res. 745, introduced in December and currently with 40 co-sponsors, urges the Indian government to end the restrictions on communications in Jammu and Kashmir, it said.

An October hearing on human rights in South Asia held by the House Subcommittee on Asia, the Pacific, and Nonproliferation included extensive discussion of developments in Jammu and Kashmir. In November, the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission held an event titled “Jammu and Kashmir in Context.”

US policy, it said, seeks to prevent conflict between India and Pakistan from escalating, and the US Congress supports a US-India strategic partnership that has been underway since 2005, while also maintaining attention on issues of human
rights and religious freedom.

CRS in its report told lawmakers that over the past decade, Washington appears to have grown closer to India while relations with Pakistan appear to continue to be viewed as clouded by mistrust.

The Trump Administration “suspended” security assistance to Pakistan in 2018 and has significantly reduced non-military aid while simultaneously deepening ties with New Delhi. It views India as a key “anchor” of its “free and open Indo-Pacific” strategy, which some argue is aimed at China, it said.

“Yet any US impulse to “tilt” toward India is to some extent offset by Islamabad's current, and by most accounts vital, role in facilitating Afghan reconciliation negotiations. President Trump's apparent bonhomie with Pakistan's prime minister and offer to mediate on Kashmir in July was taken by some as a new and potentially unwise strategic shift,” it said

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Postby wig » 22 Jan 2020 17:38

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/man-want ... -arrested/
Man wanted in fake state subject case arrested
JAMMU, Jan 21:
Janipur police arrested a man, who was wanted in a fake state subject case.
As per police sources, on the basis of a complaint, investigation was conducted and it was found that a man identified as Ajay Kumar, son of Surinder Kumar Khanna, a resident of JDA Colony Roop Nagar was having a fake state subject.
On the basis of the investigation, a case under FIR Number 3/2020 under section 420, 467, 468 and 471 IPC was registered at Janipur Police Station and hunt was launched to nab the accused.
On specific information, a team from Janipur Police Station led by SHO Inspector Naresh Sharma conducted raid and arrested the accused.
Further investigation into the case is going on to ascertain the other persons involved helping the accused to make state subject.


if Art 370 and Art 35 A has been deleted; how come the J&K police is still arresting persons, conducting investigations into fake state subject cases. the person named appears to be a Hindu who is settled in Jammu. isn't the state subject law history since Aug 5, 2019 or am I missing something

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Postby Lisa » 22 Jan 2020 19:21

Possibly, the offence was committed before abrogation of 370 ie law does not act retroactively, therefore no immunity.

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Postby wig » 23 Jan 2020 11:39

this is in continuance to the news yesterday of a fake state subject

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Bail denied in fake state subject case
JAMMU, Jan 22: City Judge Jammu Prem Sagar has rejected the bail application of one Ajay Kumar, who was arrested by the Janipur Police under Sections 420, 467, 468 and 471 IPC.

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the court observed, adding "the argument of counsel regarding registration of FIR under the provisions of Indian Penal Code viz a viz special provisions for grant of PRC is not tenable as after the coming into force of Reorganisation Act , there is no special legislation exist as on date governing to enquire about the fake PRC".

"Admittedly, the investigation of the case is at initial stage as such the application of the applicant is premature at this stage and cannot be considered", the court said

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/bail-den ... ject-case/

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Postby g.sarkar » 26 Jan 2020 03:01

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/self ... 200125.htm
Self-styled Kashmir JeM chief among 3 terrorists killed
Edited By: Utkarsh MishraJanuary 25, 2020.
In a major success on the eve of Republic Day, security forces on Saturday killed three terrorists including the self-styled Kashmir chief of Jaish-e-Mohammad Qari Yasir, who was involved in last year's Pulwama attack in which 40 Central Reserve Police Force personnel died, police and army officers said.
Addressing a joint press conference, General-Officer-Commanding of the Srinagar-based Chinar Corps, Lieutenant General K J S Dhillon and Inspector General of Police, Kashmir, Vijay Kumar said the terrorist group was planning a major attack on the Republic Day, which has now been averted.
"We have neutralised three militants in the Tral encounter and one of them is Qari Yasir who was a self-styled Kashmir chief of JeM. He was involved in last year's February (IED) blast and also Lethpora (IED) blast. "He was an IED expert and was involved in recruitment as well as relocation of militants coming in from Pakistan," Kumar said. Three army personnel were injured in the initial firing and have been hospitalised.
The IGP said the police had been getting regular inputs about an IED attack in Srinagar or its surroundings. "We were getting the names of Burhan and Yasir. Moosa, a buddy and a second-in-command of Yasir was also with him and we are sure once we identify the bodies, one of them will be Yasir as we had inputs about his presence there," he said, adding Yasir and Moosa belong to Pakistan, while Burhan was a local.
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Postby KJo » 26 Jan 2020 04:56

:(( :(( :((

:mrgreen:

Omar Abdullah ban gaya David Letterman.
Typical peaceful Taqqiyya. If dada-giri fails, play the victim and tug at the heart strings of the gullible Kafir.

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Postby Vikas » 27 Jan 2020 10:13

^^ Is it me or does he look more like Baghdadi now ?

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Are these Indians fcuking stupid? It’s india’s fault this dude grew a beard. What the **** is the intelligence level in India that someone would think this remark constitutes serious political discourse?

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Postby Vikas » 27 Jan 2020 11:40

^^Anything which helps paint Modi Ji as villain is kosher for our politicians.

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Postby tandav » 27 Jan 2020 16:40

OR! Abdullah inspired by Sadguru has become a Sanatana Dharmi !

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Postby nandakumar » 27 Jan 2020 17:07

sanjaykumar wrote:Are these Indians fcuking stupid? It’s india’s fault this dude grew a beard. What the **** is the intelligence level in India that someone would think this remark constitutes serious political discourse?

Look at it this way. What God failed to give him on the pate, he compensated by granting a luxuriant facial growth.

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Postby ramana » 28 Jan 2020 05:49

Thats Omar Abdullah?
Looks like same visage holds for RaGa.

BTW in small arms thread looks like 0.303 SMLE rifles are being retired from Police forces and will be refurbished as anti riot rifles.

I guess will be re-purposed with rubber bullets.

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Postby Yagnasri » 28 Jan 2020 08:09

It is not Aubulla I think. Some photo doing rounds everywhere.

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Postby UlanBatori » 29 Jan 2020 07:29

ramana wrote:BTW in small arms thread looks like 0.303 SMLE rifles are being retired from Police forces and will be refurbished as anti riot rifles.
I guess will be re-purposed with rubber bullets.

Makes a fine thing to swing at a crowd.

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Postby g.sarkar » 31 Jan 2020 10:20

https://news.rediff.com/commentary/2020 ... 548bbffb7e
3 terrorists killed in encounter in Jammu
January 31, 2020.
A group of 3-4 terrorists, travelling in a truck, opened fire at a police team at a toll plaza on the Jammu-Srinagar national highway in Jammu on Friday, injuring a policeman, officials said.
Three terrorists were killed in the ensuing gunfight, Jammu and Kashmir Director General of Police Dilbagh Singh said.
The firing took place around 5 am when the police team stopped a Srinagar-bound truck for checking near the toll plaza in the Ban area of Nagrota, the officials said.
The group of 3-4 terrorists was on their way to Srinagar when they were intercepted by the police team at the toll plaza, the DGP said.
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Postby g.sarkar » 02 Feb 2020 17:16

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/pix- ... 200202.htm
2 CRPF jawans, 7 civilians injured in grenade attack in Kashmir
Source: PTI February 02, 2020.
Two security force jawans and seven civilians were injured in a grenade attack by terrorists on Central Reserve Police Force personnel in Lal Chowk area of Srinagar on Sunday, police said.
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Postby Aditya_V » 14 Feb 2020 10:58

While many are satisfied with Balakot, I feel we should take out the ISI head even if he retires for carrying out Pulwama
Soil from homes of all 40 slain at Pulwama, in 1 urn

We should remember the jawans and thier families sacrifice and take good care of thier families.

I strongly suspect as reported by me a year back that such a large amount of RDX with a Hi Grade timer, competently put together etc and could not could have been transported in Hand across the border, not also in multiple trips accross LOC, some of it would have been intercepted.

It had to come by Vehicle and such Vehicle access to the Valley was through Cross-LOC trade.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/davinder-singh-case-nia-arrests-loc-trade-body-chief-6267130/

Sources said as LoC trade association chief, Wani had allegedly provided funds to Hizb-ul-Mujahideen operative Naveed Mushtaq alias Babu. Mushtaq had been arrested along with Davinder, a Deputy Superintendent, by J&K Police in Kulgam while he was travelling in Davinder’s car to Jammu.


Admins: should we have a new thread to remember Pulwama victims?

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Postby Philip » 15 Feb 2020 08:45

I've repeatedly said that we should NOT invite foreign envoys to visit Kashmir on a carefully selected guided tour.The EU after some of their envoys visited the Valley now calls for a " swift end to all curbs in Kashmir". The EU spokesperson,Verginie Battu- Henriksson said this just ONE day after a delegation of 25 diplomats visited J&K.What does this mean? It means that they'd already made up their ( prejudiced) minds and didn't even take the fig leaf of a few days or longer to discuss their visit in detail! A true slap in the face to our MEA and bumbling FM.A trip which was a total disaster .

Our MEA is still afflicted with the colonial mentality of kissing the white man's backside, and most regrettably our FM a former MEA babu has not changed tack in mindset. He is an unmitigated disaster. We see India shamelessly genuflecting and prostrating itself before the white man.Trump is to visit shortly and apart from a stupendous welcome fit for an emperor,we're bending over backwards too gift him ultra- expensive arms deals so he won't scold us back home on Iran,Russia,Kashmir- where he wants to interfere,etc. Do the Chinese take anyone to see the Uighar concentration camps? The say "bugger off" when criticsed and go on the offensive listing out the innumerable human rights abuses of the west affecting millions.

But sadly.the MEA behaves like a servile lackey to the west,only barking at lesser " turd world" nations,afraid to show the steel fist inside the velvet glove.
We must stand tall and stand firm especially on Kashmir where it is Paki terrorism that is the problem and parasitical Kashmiri quislings who enjoyed a lifetime of luxury before the scrapping of Art. 370 threw them into the stinking Jhelum! Instead of taking these Euro busybodies to Kashmir,they should've been taken to the Pokharan firing range and given a demo of what we're going to send across the border to Pak the next time round. And when Trump visits,we must ask him publicly why he killed Gen.Suleimani whilst sparing the most notorious Paki generals ,the real hard core of global Islamic terror?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby yensoy » 15 Feb 2020 09:40

They will continue to play their game, and we will play ours. Expecting them to play our game is folly. It's got nothing to do with kissing anyone's backside.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Cain Marko » 15 Feb 2020 14:56

In the meanwhile Erdogan bubba continues to make anti Kashmir noises in bonhomie with TSP :roll: Rich coming from genocidal turks - from Armenians to Kurds. Imran and Erdo are peas in a pod. A rather rotten, festering one at that.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 15 Feb 2020 18:44

Cain Marko wrote:In the meanwhile Erdogan bubba continues to make anti Kashmir noises in bonhomie with TSP :roll: Rich coming from genocidal turks - from Armenians to Kurds. Imran and Erdo are peas in a pod. A rather rotten, festering one at that.

Cross Posting from Turkish thread:
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Sir we don't even recognise that event as an genocide!!! :roll: This needs to be done at the official level i.e, GOI
The we could issue Demarche to the Ambassador for interfering in internal matter
The we could have trade embargo or restrictions etc
We should start with the basics of recognizing the Armenian Genocide first!!
Please correct me if I am wrong in my assumption that we yet to recognise that event! :eek:
There we were in Pre-Independence given full support for the 'Khilafat Movement' :eek:


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