J&K Union Territory-2019

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vikas » 21 Feb 2020 12:38

Manish_Sharma wrote:
Land Jihad: NGO says Abdullahs, Ghulam Nabi Azad and PDP helped in Islamisation of Jammu region with encroachments, state-sponsored settlements

|OpIndia Staff On February 17, 2020|

Advocate Sharma also said that in 1994, there were 3 Mosques in Jammu in 1994 and twenty-six years later, the number stands at 100. Some areas of Jammu which were discovered to be symbolic of the demographic shift underway are Bhatindi, Narwal, Sunjwan, Kaluchak, Peer Baba Mohalla, Poonchi Mohalla, Channi Rama, Channi Himmat, Raika, Sidhra, Rangoora, Khanpur, Nagrota, Gujjar Mohalla, Qasim Nagar on both sides of newly built NH 44 Bypass. It was also said that the state-sponsored demographic shift in Jammu was pursued with the objective of turning the region into another Kashmir.


Almost none of them even existed or were known during my days in Jammu except maybe Channi. Rest all have come up in last 2 decades. I am not even aware of more than half the names in the list.
Places like Kaluchak (Famous for Paki terror attack on IA families), Nagrota, Sidhra, Narwal were mere blips on govt papers outside the Jammu city limits.
Like Churches in South India, There were hardly any mosque ( & a single church) in Jammu city till terrorism was mainstreamed & justified by Muslims of Kashmir and their lovers in Delhi.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby RKumar » 21 Feb 2020 14:09

shravanp wrote:
@IkkJutt_Jammu
Big Breaking from J&K High Court:


#DemographicInvasionOfJammu PROVED

25000 cases of State Land transfer to encroachers in Jammu

Only 4500 cases in Kashmir

This is about 20 Lakh Kanals of State Land
Notices for retrieving the land back issued to Roshni beneficiaries

https://twitter.com/IkkJutt_Jammu/status/1230530325828100096


Very big news if this is true, I can't even believe - this is possible in India. And why no one from the main media picked it up so far this Anti majority (Peaceful n Victims) MAD action :P

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby wig » 21 Feb 2020 16:26

DB expresses shock over Govt report on beneficiaries of Roshni Scheme

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/db-expre ... ni-scheme/

THE ROSHNI act of J&k was used to illegally occupy land and settle muslims in areas around Jammu. a PIL filed by Sh ANkur Sharma in the J &K High Court


“It is very shocking state of affairs which had prevailed and the manner in which the land encroachers in Jammu and Kashmir have become owners of large trenches of public land by the operation of the Roshni Scheme”, the DB observed and directed the respondents to file an affidavit of an officer not below the rank of Secretary, Revenue Department affirming that the list furnished before the court is correct and complete in all respects.
The DB further directed the respondents to effect a calculation of the value of the public land which has been vested in the encroachers and furnish the list before the court. “We would also like to be informed of the division of the land in terms of its classification as urban, rural, forest land or of any other nature”, DB added.
Pointing towards the news report dated 16th February 2020 mentioning that illegal entries on 659 acres of forest and State land detected in Jammu, the DB said, “perusal of the report shows that the Deputy Commissioner, Jammu has unearthed the illegal entries on the forest and the State land on 659 acres and two places in Jammu. The matter regarding examination of illegal entries is still going on”.

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In another petition filed by Advocate Ankur Sharma seeking registration of FIR against Ex-BJP Cabinet Minister Abdul Gani Kohli and others for encroaching 10 kanals forest land at Nowabad Sunjwan, Division Bench directed that a copy of entire paper book including the writ petition and all the status reports on record be made available to the Divisional Commissioner, Jammu as well as the Principal Chief Conservator of Forests.
“They shall scrutinize the entire records and a report be submitted to us after careful and complete scrutiny, not only the court record and status reports but also the relevant records and documents”, the DB said, adding “these officers shall cause a physical inspection of the land to be undertaken and, if necessary, fresh demarcation be conducted by an officer not below the rank of Deputy Commissioner”.
Pointing towards the reports dated 1st June, 2016 and 27th March, 2017, the DB observed, “even if the report of the Senior Superintendent of Police that the land in question was a state land was to be accepted, it is shocking that concerned authorities have not only permitted continuation of the encroachment but enable buildings to come up on State land without having taken any action for the same”.
“Another important aspect is as to how no objections stand granted to run educational institutions and banking facilities in the property constructed on the land which has been encroached”, the DB said, adding “the fact that forest land has been registered in the name of private parties is also illegal and a serious matter”.
DB directed that report regarding the land in question shall be filed within four weeks from today. The DB also issued notice to the Secretary, Board of School Education, Jammu returnable on 12th March 2020 to explain as to how the ETT institution has been permitted to be run on public/forest land. Even notice has been issued to Secretary, Revenue Department as to how the forest land has been registered in the name of private persons.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby wig » 21 Feb 2020 16:31

Zojila tunnel to undergo design changes

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/zojila-t ... n-changes/
from above
to improve the connectivty of Srinagar to Leh will undergo design changing of the strategic Zojila tunnel at an altitude of nearly 12000 feet aiming at ensuring round the year connectivity between Leh and Srinagar if it aimed at slicing of cost and providing technical and expertise modifications for better utility. It is hoped that within the timeframe, this tunnel involving a cost of Rs.6800 crore was going to be completed and made operational.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 22 Feb 2020 05:37

Video embedded ...
https://twitter.com/bababanaras/status/ ... 0559947776
अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras

Few points to be note -

Preemptive strikes against terrorists launch pads will continue.
◆ Now there will be no limit of use of type of arms and ammunitions.
◆ There will be no geographical limit to strike against enemy of our nation.
◆ Now time to play offensive.

@adgpi

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 22 Feb 2020 19:03

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 24 Feb 2020 21:20

https://twitter.com/News18Jammu/status/ ... 9752607745
News18 Jammu @News18Jammu

All the SHOs and Chowki officers of Jammu Division asked not to leave the station for 4 days / sources / the direction comes in view of a possible militant attack / say sources.

Someone is really desperate to create mayhem in India during/around Trump's visit so that it gets a larger than usual play in foreign media.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 24 Feb 2020 23:48

Each POTUS visit has been accompanied by a terrorist strike leading to deaths of Indian citizens. It is a standard operating procedure.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vikas » 25 Feb 2020 10:32

This time they got some Muslims Indians doing the job for them in Delhi. See the news of rioting and people getting killed right under the nose of central govt.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vips » 25 Feb 2020 19:00

It is because Delhi Police is under Fekriwal. Had Amit Shah been in charge these anti national ass h*les would have met their 72 sex starved mullahs by now.

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Postby Bart S » 25 Feb 2020 20:34

Vips wrote:It is because Delhi Police is under Fekriwal. Had Amit Shah been in charge these anti national ass h*les would have met their 72 sex starved mullahs by now.


How is Delhi Police under Kejriwal? It very much is under Amit Shah, something that makes the inaction all the more galling.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 25 Feb 2020 20:48

Bart S wrote:
Vips wrote:It is because Delhi Police is under Fekriwal. Had Amit Shah been in charge these anti national ass h*les would have met their 72 sex starved mullahs by now.


How is Delhi Police under Kejriwal? It very much is under Amit Shah, something that makes the inaction all the more galling.

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Could it be a deliberate move!!
and also let the Hiz Honours to take the decisions so that no blame on the party??
Now that there is violence we have to:
1.Flag Marches
2.Wait for SC to give police to take appropriate action
3.Liberandus to run to SC again
The tamasha will go on but the sad part is :somebody lost their father/brother/uncle
And the family lost the person earning livelihood and children their parent
!!
Idiots like Turdadeep talk of other things but not on the highlighted bit!!

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Mort Walker » 25 Feb 2020 22:37

Bart S wrote:
Vips wrote:It is because Delhi Police is under Fekriwal. Had Amit Shah been in charge these anti national ass h*les would have met their 72 sex starved mullahs by now.


How is Delhi Police under Kejriwal? It very much is under Amit Shah, something that makes the inaction all the more galling.


But Delhi administration has to request anything more than simple police. They did not, so Krazywall is directly responsible. Today he did meet with AS and they will be using drones to watch disruptive activity.

Death toll is now 13, Delhi Ghaziabad border closed, CBSE exams in Delhi postponed.

TIME HAS COME TO DISMISS DELHI GOVERNMENT FOR ALLOWING PROTESTS AND KILLINGS.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 26 Feb 2020 04:40

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jammu-a ... er-2184180
Domicile, Land Law For J&K Coming ''Very Soon'': Union Minister
He also announced that more than the promised jobs will be provided to the youth after the notification of the rules is worked out.
All IndiaPressTrust of India February 22, 2020
Jammu: In a bid to address the concerns of the local populace after the revoking of Jammu and Kashmir's special status last year, Union minister Jitendra Singh on Saturday assured the people of the Union Territory that the domicile law is coming "very soon" which would be followed by the Land Act.
He also announced that more than the promised jobs will be provided to the youth after the notification of the rules is worked out.
"The domicile act is coming very soon, which will be immediately followed by the Land Act," the minister of state in the Prime Minister's Office said.
Many parties have been demanding enactment of a domicile law for Jammu and Kashmir to protect the interests of landowners and the unemployed youth after the erstwhile state lost its special status following the nullification of Article 370 by the Centre.
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Does this mean that non Kashmiris can not buy land and settle there?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby ramana » 26 Feb 2020 06:16

Is domicile law a way to bring the old Kashmiryat rules of denying Indians there place in Kashmir?

Domicile law is pernicious law and should not be introduced.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vera_k » 26 Feb 2020 08:50

Mort Walker wrote:TIME HAS COME TO DISMISS DELHI GOVERNMENT FOR ALLOWING PROTESTS AND KILLINGS.


This is quite pointless given the mandate the Delhi government received just recently. Setting up an investigation into omission/commission by the government would be a better idea.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Yagnasri » 26 Feb 2020 09:41

ramana wrote:Is domicile law a way to bring the old Kashmiryat rules of denying Indians there place in Kashmir?

Domicile law is pernicious law and should not be introduced.


Normally Domicile works based on the period of stay. If a person stays a period of years in a place he or she becomes local. I think the same may come to the J&K UT ( I love that word UT :mrgreen: )

As far as land laws are concerned buying of land in Hill states like Sikkim etc is also prohibited for outsider as on today. Same with Tribal lands in various states (including AP) In fact I think opening of land to outsiders immediately will only help BIF which holds huge landed properties in the UT ( I can not help it :rotfl: ) It may be therefore some modified form which is applicable to Hill states may come there. I do not anyway see BJP bringing Art 370 back in another form.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 26 Feb 2020 09:47

ramana wrote:Is domicile law a way to bring the old Kashmiryat rules of denying Indians there place in Kashmir?
Domicile law is pernicious law and should not be introduced.

Why is it that after acquiring US citizenship, I can settle anywhere in the US, and the same right is not given to Indian citizens? Changing demographics does not apply to any other nation, such as Israel, China, or Pakistan, but it applies to India.
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Postby Yagnasri » 26 Feb 2020 10:02

It does not apply to most of the states. But India is not the US which killed most of the natives already. Even there you can not just walk in to a Indian reserves. Right?

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Postby g.sarkar » 26 Feb 2020 10:31

Yagnasri wrote:It does not apply to most of the states. But India is not the US which killed most of the natives already. Even there you can not just walk in to a Indian reserves. Right?

I get your point regarding reservations for American Indians, though the US has a history of kicking out American Indians from reservations, whenever it suited them. I am reminded about the book Catch 22, where the Indian Chief is kicked out and his land appropriated whenever oil was found in his land. These reservations today are fragmented due to sale of land to non-tribal populations. I can walk into any Indian reservation any time, though I may not be able to buy land there. But a powerful financial body can do just that. The policies of preventing Hindus from settling in lands that belonged to them for thousands of years has removed them entirely from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Kashmir. We can not do much about the first three, but Kashmir is still under Indian control. No one talks about not changing demographics in POK, where the Punjabi Muslim can settle with impunity. Laws that prevent Indians from settling in Indian lands should not apply in any state period. These laws are short sighted and contain seeds of fragmentation of India in future.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby wig » 26 Feb 2020 10:55

http://news.statetimes.in/delimitation- ... mmu-ankur/

Delimitation on basis of 2011 census a conspiracy to enslave Jammu: Ankur
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Terming 2011 census conducted in J&K as fudged and a big fraud perpetrated on the nation, Ankur Sharma described it as an expression of Administrative Jihad launched by leaders of Demographic Jihad and warned the Union Government to refrain itself from converting Jammu & Kashmir once again into a domain of Muslim Hegemony by conducting delimitation on basis of fudged 2011 census.
“Delimitation on basis of fudged 2011 census figures would resurrect Kashmir’s Hegemony over everything in the State as was the case after 1951, when Nehru regime and Sheikh Abdullah joined hands to rig the Constituent Assembly Elections to establish Muslim rule and enslave Jammu and Ladakh by giving preponderant, unfair and disproportionate share of representation to tiny Kashmir. Ever since, New Delhi and Kashmiri Muslim leadership have been crushing legitimate socio-cultural and politico-economic aspirations of Jammu people through Kashmir-dominated legislature,” said Ankur Sharma.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vikas » 26 Feb 2020 11:14

What is so special about a state that rest of Indians are not allowed to buy property there ?
IMO, Any state that gets benefit of "Domicile" should be barred from owning property by its residents anywhere in India.
Why should rest of India be discriminated against while Omar Abdullah or Karan Singh get to buy property anywhere in India.

This whole narrative of outsiders v/s locals has come in recently otherwise Hindus have been moving around in India across centuries since time immemorial. Folklore says that a branch my ancestors moved out of Kashmir and thru Punjab landed up in Goa and some of them marched ahead and became Malayalis.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Yagnasri » 26 Feb 2020 12:14

There is nothing special about J&K. Stop calling it a state first. It is just a UT.

First steps is the delimitation thing. Do it as properly as possible so that Momo domination ends or at least largely reduced.

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Postby Vikas » 26 Feb 2020 15:28

Yagnasri wrote:There is nothing special about J&K. Stop calling it a state first. It is just a UT.

First steps is the delimitation thing. Do it as properly as possible so that Momo domination ends or at least largely reduced.


My rhetorical was more generic in nature and wasn't specific to J&K.
As far delimitation, Yes there is no other way.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 28 Feb 2020 11:29

https://twitter.com/DostKhan_Jammu/stat ... 4448148481
Prof Hari Om @DostKhan_Jammu

Breaking
Last Nail In Nehru Khan-Sheikh Legacy

37 More Central Laws Applied To JK {Last batch to bring J&K fully in compliance with the Indian constitution}

With This, JK Comes Under The Ambit Of All The 800 Central Laws

Earlier, @narendramodi Government Withdrew 153 Nasty JK Laws,
Incl The One That Entitled Muslims Of Pakistan To Resettle In Jammu

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 02 Mar 2020 12:26

Sardar Patel famously called the Indian Administrative Service (IAS) the “steel frame" of India's government machinery and he was wrong. :mrgreen:

not much better in all other states.



the rusted steel framework in cashmere



The CBI has arrested IAS officers Itrit Hussain Rafiqui and Rajiv Ranjan on charges of illegally issuing bulk arms licenses during their posting as deputy commissioners in Kupawara, J&K between 2013-16.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 03 Mar 2020 20:44

https://twitter.com/Frontalfire/status/ ... 8776033281
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Breaking: Big breakthrough as Father-Daughter duo identified as Tariq Ahmad Shah & Insha Tariq arrested by NIA from Lethpora in connection to Pulwama Terrorist attack.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby shravanp » 03 Mar 2020 20:53

Yagnasri wrote:There is nothing special about J&K. Stop calling it a state first. It is just a UT.

First steps is the delimitation thing. Do it as properly as possible so that Momo domination ends or at least largely reduced.



Even before that, the impact from abuse of Roshni act needs to be accessed first. Was it a landgrab just by the affluent for their own usage or was it to displace / alter demographic equations of jammu? Delimitation might be ineffective if there has been previous regimes have dented these very plans if demographics have been altered.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby ramana » 03 Mar 2020 21:22

Illegals will be thrown out.
Delimitation is a must.
Abdullah-Mufti were running a Secular Jihad on Jammu by settling Rohingjyas and keeping out Indians under Kashmiriyat.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Yagnasri » 04 Mar 2020 09:52

Another thing we may not see normally is where the Roginayas are settled. From what I understand they were given kachha housing/Juggi Jhopadi thing near cantonment areas in Jammu.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 04 Mar 2020 10:19

I guess J&K as UT move is just to ensure that GOI got to clean the field of the debris left behind by 70+ years of Kashmiriyat.

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Postby pankajs » 07 Mar 2020 12:52

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/statu ... 9479493639
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JUST IN: Ministry of Law and Justice issues The Gazette if India notification setting up Delimitation Commission, headed by Justice (Retd.) Ranjana Prakash Desai for reconstitution of Assembly and Lok Sabha seats in Jammu & Kashmir, Assam, Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur and Nagaland.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby KL Dubey » 08 Mar 2020 23:09

Former PDP leader Altaf Bukhari launches 'Apni party'

What do BRF members think might be the new electoral landscape in J&K ? BJP versus this new party ? Do you think PDP and NC will be allowed again ? Seems impossible unless the "families" and the separatist/special status agendas are removed. Congis seem to be in the picture too.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby KL Dubey » 08 Mar 2020 23:15

http://risingkashmir.com/news/mha-examining-all-options-to-frame-rules-to-protect-domicile-rights-in-jk-

Some sketchy info about what the coming J&K Domicile law may look like. It does not seem like a return to 370 days but more in line with other states.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 22:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQeuNucK1ec



'Abrogating Article 370 will need 1000 people killed': Ex-Guv J-K quotes Chief Secy

Mar 11, 2020





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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 15 Mar 2020 14:54

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... YPUPN.html
Four terrorists killed in encounter with security forces in Jammu and Kashmir’s Anantnag
Acting on a specific input, a team of security personnel from the Jammu and Kashmir Police, Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and the Army cordoned off the area in the night. As the security forces zeroed in on the house, where the terrorists were holed up, the terrorists opened fire triggering the encounter.
INDIA Updated: Mar 15, 2020.
Indo-Asian News Service, Srinagar
Four unidentified terrorists were killed in a shootout with security forces on Sunday morning in Jammu and Kashmir’s Anantnag district, a CRPF official said.
The encounter took place in the Dayalgam residential area around 10.40 a.m.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 24 Mar 2020 16:31

https://theprint.in/opinion/in-farooq-a ... cs/384208/
In Farooq Abdullah’s silence, lies his acceptance of new realities of Kashmir’s politics
Farooq Abdullah, who was released last week, has chosen to remain silent on Article 370, indicating an acceptance of the new political realities in J&K.
SESHADRI CHARI 20 March, 2020.

Going by the low key celebrations in Kashmir after Farooq Abdullah’s release from 8-month detention, the old war horse of J&K would have learned a thing or two about the changed ground realities. The Abdullah and the Mufti clans should learn to read the writing on the wall. Although, their parties, National Conference (NC) and the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), have limited options now, in it lies a great opportunity to revive their fortunes if they are able to integrate their views with the national mainstream. Farooq Abdullah understands the change, and has refused to comment on the political situation until all other detainees are released. He has also expressed his wish to attend the Parliament of which he is a member.
J&K has accepted new realities After the dilution of Article 370, much to the disappointment of the Abdullah family, the people of the Union territory decided to accept the changes, rather than prepare for a long-drawn battle. The change in the status was explained by the Narendra Modi government as a necessity to maintain law and order, and keep a close watch on the emerging situation so that external forces do not take advantage of it.
Politics in J&K cannot be and is no longer the exclusive preserve of the Abdullah clan. From the time Sheikh Abdullah became member of the Constituent Assembly in 1946 to when his grandson became the chief minister, the family has ruled over J&K for nearly four decades. It was the opinion of this family and that of the Muftis that guided the fortunes of the erstwhile state since Independence.
Despite the members of these two families getting plum posts in the state and the Union governments, their views on converting the temporary provision of Article 370 to a permanent feature or distancing themselves from the centre, especially when they are not in power are common knowledge. This is one reason why the family’s incarceration evoked very little or no protest. According to the Union Minister of State for Home G. Kishan Reddy, no major terror incident has taken place since the dilution of Article 370 and J&K has reported only 79 incidents, comparatively very low.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby RKumar » 24 Mar 2020 18:54

GoI must not give special rights to JK, all people in India should have the same rights to live, work, and earn. If people from JK can buy property, join colleges, and have job anywhere in India than why people from other states can’t buy property, secure admission in colleges and apply for private n government jobs?

If still GoI thinks to give special rights to JK than people from JK must not be able to enjoy these privileges outside their state. It must be give n take, not only take n take.

Don’t create a new monster just because you have killed an existing monster.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby sanjayc » 24 Mar 2020 22:19

Agree -- these privileges must always be reciprocal

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 24 Mar 2020 23:36

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/omar ... 200324.htm
Omar Abdullah freed after eight-month detention, PSA revoked
Source: PTI - Edited By: Roshneesh Kmaneck, March 24, 2020
Former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah was on Tuesday freed after eight months in detention after the administration revoked the stringent Public Safety Act against him.
The National Conference leader, who turned 50 on March 10, has been under detention since August 5, when the Centre announced the revocation of Jammu and Kashmir's special status under Article 370 and its bifurcation into the union territories of Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh.
The order revoking the PSA against him was issued by Home Secretary Shaleen Kabra. Abdullah was booked under the stringent act on February 5, hours before his six-month custody under preventive detention was to end.
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