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India has asked China to stop changing the status quo in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir by building the China–Pakistan Economic Corridor after Bejing raked up Kashmir issue from the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA).
In a strongly worded statement, the Ministry of External Affairs said, "We expect that other countries will respect India's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and desist from efforts to change the status quo through the illegal so-called China Pakistan Economic Corridor in Pakistan occupied Kashmir."
Paki channels are claiming that Malaysian PM Mahathir Mohammed claimed that Kashmir was an independent country which was invaded and occupied and toed the Paki line on HR violations there.
I couldn't find it in Indian media. Did anyone keep tabs on this loud mouth? He is a closet jihadi and as his life comes to a close (he is 92 already) his religious passions are manipulated and whipped up by Dimran and terror motivator Zakir Naik under asylum in Malaysia.
India's leverage over Malaysia isn't discussed much. Of course we can support his more reasonable and more secular opposition. But there should be a price to pay for such brazen anti India stance.
schinnas wrote:Paki channels are claiming that Malaysian PM Mahathir Mohammed claimed that Kashmir was an independent country which was invaded and occupied and toed the Paki line on HR violations there.
I couldn't find it in Indian media. Did anyone keep tabs on this loud mouth? He is a closet jihadi and as his life comes to a close (he is 92 already) his religious passions are manipulated and whipped up by Dimran and terror motivator Zakir Naik under asylum in Malaysia.
India's leverage over Malaysia isn't discussed much. Of course we can support his more reasonable and more secular opposition. But there should be a price to pay for such brazen anti India stance.
high time that India took down mahathir mohammed and his abrasive brand of diplomacy a peg or two or three.
The route to that is India's considerable palm olein oil market which malaysia has monopolized for long.
they have nothing much of importance that we need.
mahathir mohammed is also a legend in his own mind type of a politician and he has Indian roots which he is careful to hide.
onw wonders what mahathir mohammed has to say about balochistan and the genocide there.
Wasn't balochistan an independent country before the pakis grabbed it
India's exports to Malaysia don't show any single dependence on us for Malaysia. However India seems to have a dependence on Malaysia for Palm oil. We always have the option of importing most of it from Indonesia to punish Malaysian exports to India but prudent strategy would be to buy from both to keep prices competitive. We can however reduce Malaysian share and we MUST do it.
Also India is in the process of entering into a trade agreement with ASEAN and also to join ASEAN which would need consensus decision from all ASEAN countries including Malaysia. That gives Malaysia some leverage over India.
In terms of domestic politics, the 7% Indian origin diaspora in Malaysia does provide us some influence but they vote for Mahathir Mohammed's opposition anyways.
So India's best bet would be a strong rebuke without downgrading relations followed by silent tweaks to reduce Malaysian imports (major Indian importers can be silently told that Malaysian consignments will be subject to prolonged narco checks at customs). Medium to long term, we should prop up the opposition in Malaysia and dig out scams and scandals of Mahathir.
" In the Star of Friday 2nd September, a report by AFP, date-lined New York has this to say:
“For some Americans, the deaths of nearly 3000 people was not the scariest thing about 9/11. It was realising who carried out the attack: yes, the American Government.”"
He is also a Holocaust denier but US took some actions though they also don't have much leverage over Malaysia. It is very very difficult for Malaysians to get visas to US now and they are subjected to numerous terror related checks.
schinnas wrote:He is also a Holocaust denier but US took some actions though they also don't have much leverage over Malaysia. It is very very difficult for Malaysians to get visas to US now and they are subjected to numerous terror related checks.
Not true. Malaysia can find itself out of the supply chain of lot of electronics and industrial products if Uncle Sam really wants.
Malaysia is going the Turkey way and both are governed by Jihadi strongman. Its time for the influential powers to engineer a revolt against these two dumb heads.
Mahatir openly lied when he said that India did not ask for Zakir Naik's extradition. Zakir Naik's choice to live in Malayisa and not the GCC was an early indication on how the GCC was incliningfrom anti-india to neutral and now even as pro india and the resultant desperate actions of wannabe Ummah leaders Erdogan and Dimran trying to forge an alternative Malsi block with Malaysia and are also trying to include Iran in the group.
Mahatir is 93 years old. I think no one will want to damage relations with Malaysia over what may be timebound. Key question is who might succeed him and what are their views and policies?
Pakistan most certainly will not give Kashmir up in the face of Indian threats. To many Pakistani officers it seems probable that the war in Kashmir is at present essential to the existence of the Indian Union. They see it as the one common factor uniting all the different forces, which, if left to themselves, would pull the State to pieces. Without a "popular war" the Nehru Administration would have to settle the conflicting claims of its own members, satisfy the Sikhs, reconcile labour and capital, deal with the Communists and take drastic and unpopular measures to stop the drift of the national economy towards complete chaos. Hyderabad was a card which was good as long as it was held; now that it has been played there remains only Kashmir and the stakes on that card have been made so heavy in both men, money and prestige, that it cannot remain unplayed much longer. Recent speeches by Union Ministers do tend the suggest the obtrusion [sic? intrusion] of the U.N.O. into the relations between India and her State of Kashmir has been a tedious restraint on the Union's ability to manage her own affairs efficiently. Patel going so far as to remark on October 1st, that "if the Security Council releases us from that embarrassment we shall perform that operation also (i.e., Kashmir) with the least amount of danger." A singularly vacuous remark if ever there was one! Either Mr. Patel was using Hyderabad as a yard-stick to measure the Indian Army's martial prowess, or else he was completely ignorant of the military implications and the political consequences of a Union advance upto the Pakistan border.
This is from Adrian Reed (Junior Staff Member, Lahore Deputy High Commission posted to Rawalpindi) to Olver (?Stephen Olver, Pakistan Foreign Service in Karachi).
(# 70 in "Towards a Ceasefire in Kashmir, British Official Reports from South Asia, 18 September - 31 December 1948", Editor: Lionel Carter).
I was initially unhappy with the celebrations following the return of Modi. I mean we have been able to blunt the baki game but that by itself cannot be a reason for celebration. The game is still on and we can breath easy only after about another 4 months.
Then I got to know that Dimran had received a "Grand Welcome" in Slumbad and it came to me that Modi had tried to preempt that just so the bakis don't get another line to spin Modi had failed and hence no grand welcome for him back in Delhi. Bakis are as cheap as they get.
Bakis are still hurting from the differential welcome accorded to the leaders and would have tried to pull a fast one for psyops and Modi did realize that it seems.
1. How did the Kashmiris in Srinagar get to hear or watch Dimran's UN speech? Is land line internet still in use?
2. Is it possible that Pakis broadcasted it over long range AM frequencies.
It is very important that a Naya Srinagar is created and pandits are resettled there. Also all ex-servicemen should be provided residency and land in Jammu & Kashmir UT and provided loans to build tourism businesses such as travel agency or homestays or restaurants.
We need to reduce radicalization with more immigration into the state. Make it a pluralistic, diverse and vibrant state once again.
It (standing by Kashmiris) is jihad. We are doing it because we want Allah to be happy with us, he said. It is a struggle and do not lose heart when the time is not good. Do not be disappointed as the Kashmiris are looking towards you, he said.
He said "Kashmiris would win if the Pakistani people stood by their side".
Sep. 29. Aug. 5. 55 days over by madarssa arithmetic. Situation naaarmal. Even a few paki terrorists are back, and dead. Imran fa*ting. Straight from Da Man (AmithShahji):
No restrictions in Jammu & Kashmir; entire world supports India on Article 370: Amit Shah
" In the Star of Friday 2nd September, a report by AFP, date-lined New York has this to say:
“For some Americans, the deaths of nearly 3000 people was not the scariest thing about 9/11. It was realising who carried out the attack: yes, the American Government.”"
pankajs wrote:It (standing by Kashmiris) is jihad. We are doing it because we want Allah to be happy with us, he said. It is a struggle and do not lose heart when the time is not good. Do not be disappointed as the Kashmiris are looking towards you, he said.
How much more transparent an admission it can get about the reception and feedback Dimmy Niazi got for his ranting and raving.
Saying "Do not lose heart" and "Allah [is] happy with us" is a give-away. Reminds one of Baki army claiming that they "enjoy a morally superior position at Siachen"
This article in Coupta's print is getting circulated widely by Pukis.
No trade deal, no Kashmir win, no investment but BJP celebrating Modi return from US
Nothing on trade, no American company wants to invest and to top it all off, Modi was told he would ‘get along well’ with Imran Khan while in US.
Who cares what Pkis circulate. Let them.live in their make believe world. It will accelerate their impending collapse.
Even before the article was printed, and Dimran step foot on a bathroom mat at the tarmac in Jeddah, Saudi birdars have announced an intent to invest 100 Billion. US CEOs are happy and already money is flowing through FII route to stock market.
Malaysian PM claims Kashmir has been ‘invaded and occupied’, slams India, Israel, USA, Myanmar and bats for Rohingyas
However, the Malaysian PM admitted that Malaysia cannot dare to confront China on issues of aggression in the South China Sea or the treatment of Uighur Muslims because they don't have the capacity to take on China
OPINDIA STAFF
SEPTEMBER 29, 2019
Mahathir Mohammad says Kashmir has been 'invaded and occupied' urges India to find peaceful solution as per UN resolution
Malaysian PM Mahathir Mohammad, in his speech at the UNGA, has stated that Jammu and Kashmir has been invaded and occupied. He has added that India should work with Pakistan to ‘resolve the problem by peaceful means’. His statement has also hinted that India is ignoring the UN and the ‘rule of law’.
He added that there may be reasons for India’s actions but it is still wrong.
The helplessness of the world in stopping atrocities inflicted on the Rohingyas in Myanmar had reduced the regard for the resolution of the UN. Now, despite UN resolution on Jammu and Kashmir, the country has been invaded and occupied.
— Dr Mahathir Mohamad (@chedetofficial) September 28, 2019
There may be reasons for this action but it is still wrong. The problem must be solved by peaceful means. India should work with Pakistan to resolve this problem. Ignoring the UN would lead to other forms of disregard for the UN and the Rule of Law. pic.twitter.com/QOQtIkPTC1
— Dr Mahathir Mohamad (@chedetofficial) September 28, 2019
Mahathir Mohammad, at an event at the Columbia University earlier, had slammed Israel and had defended his antisemitic statements and Holocaust denial. He had stated that though Malaysia accepts the state of Israel as a ‘fait accompli’ but it cannot accept the ‘blatant seizure’ of Palestine land by Israel for their settlements as well as the occupation of Jerusalem by Israel. Mohammad added that the Palestinians cannot even enter the settlements built on their land.
Mahathir Mohammad also condemned Myanmar for the alleged atrocities on the Rohingya Muslims. He accused Myanmar of carrying out genocide in the Rakhine province. He accused that many nations in the world are supporting ‘unfriendly countries’ despite UN resolutions and rule of law.
Earlier this month, when PM Modi and Mahathir Mohammad had met in Vladivostok, Russia during the EEF event organised by Russia, Mahathir’s foreign minister had informed Malaysian media that most of their discussion had centred around the issue of Jammu and Kashmir. He had also stated that Mahathir Mohammad had even insisted on bringing third parties in if India and Pakistan are unable to arrive at a peaceful resolution.
Mahathir Mohammad also slammed the US for imposing unilateral sanctions on Iran and stated that it has impacted Malaysia’s business with Iran. He also slammed Trump for pulling out of the 11-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership.
However, the Malaysian PM admitted that he and his country cannot take a confrontational stand with China, whether it is over China’s aggression in the South China sea, or its treatment of the Uighur Muslims. He stated that Malaysia is too small to take on China and in the past, they used to send gold and silver to China to pledge their subservience. He acknowledged that Malaysia cannot exist in conflict with China if it wants to survive.
It’s no longer going to be hide and seek, if we have to go across LoC, we will: General Bipin Rawat
The JeM facility in Balakot has been reactivated. Intelligence assessments say there are 250, 300 or 500 terrorists waiting to infiltrate into India. If so, what did the Balakot air strikes in February, or the surgical strikes in September 2016 achieve? The strikes have delivered the message that the Line of Control (LoC) will remain sacrosanct as long as the other side remains quiet and does not vitiate the atmosphere. Pakistan controls the terrorists, who act as its proxies. It’s no longer going to be hide and seek. If we have to go across, we will, through the air or the ground route or both. The red line has been very clearly drawn as to what will be the future course of action.
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vimal wrote:This article in Coupta's print is getting circulated widely by Pukis.
No trade deal, no Kashmir win, no investment but BJP celebrating Modi return from US
Nothing on trade, no American company wants to invest and to top it all off, Modi was told he would ‘get along well’ with Imran Khan while in US.
Our society still carries colonial scars and seeks validation from goras or any firangis for that matter. It was necessary for Modi to paint a picture of a leader who made India fly high at US and in UN in the face of incessant social media and fake news campaign by enemies internal and external.
Otherwise, Pakis having a big celebration when Dimran landed with a silent reception to Modi would have sent a wrong message to unwashed abduls of the sub continent and the cash meres who are looking for any straw to clutch.
I don’t agree with this . We don’t need to mirror every Paki act of stupidity (there will be too many to keep up with anyway), and our people are mature enough to see through their propaganda. As it is they are turning into a nation of toothless Twitter trolls and our people already react by laughing them away with disdain.
Last month, just because Trump offered to mediate b/w India and Pakistan, Pakis claimed victory and whole of IK's cabinet lined up with garlands to welcome him at the airport. The bar is so low there. If we want the world to stop hyphenating us with Pakis, we should stop acting like Pakis. That's the least we can do.
btw Mr Arnab Goswami on Republic TV is screaming that "India now dictates global order". lolwut?
I had written this in another context but is valid here too. To rephrase, most of the time one must not wrestle with the pig for obvious reasons BUT there are times when one must enter the pigsty and do what is necessary.
Dimran has accepted defeat in his mission before his UNGA address. Therefore, Dimran's "islam" tinged fighting speech at UNGA followed by the grand welcome and jihadi speech @ isloo was squarely aimed at baki domestic audience but more importantly at the Kashmiris, from our pov.
Modi had to deflate the last 2 Dimran speechs in his own way. Delhi grand welcome should be seen in that context where he had to enter the pigsty and get a little dirty. His act at Delhi airport was primarily aimed at Kashmiris to portray absolute control of the narrative and not at Indians or the world in general.
partha wrote:btw Mr Arnab Goswami on Republic TV is screaming that "India now dictates global order". lolwut?
Saw a screenshot on twitter. Is pathetic to say the least. And this fellow wanted to establish a "global" rival to BBC and CNN.
Effective propaganda is always subtle where as this is not only wrong but also cringe worthy.
Just saw a troll.in headline by one usual suspect subtly calling Modi US trip a failure in its headline. Did not read the content. That is the way it is done. More than liar.in, it is troll.in that is a master of subtle propaganda.
“I especially thank Bushra Bibi because she prayed a lot for us,” Khan said ahead of speaking about Kashmir, the only issue he has been harping on since India stripped J&K of its special status on August 5. “Even if the world does not stand with Kashmir, Pakistan will always stand with them. We stand with them because we want to please Allah,” he said. {Dim accepting defeat.}
“I want to tell you not to lose hope. There are good times and bad times — ghabrana nahi hai (don’t worry). Because the people of Kashmir are looking towards you, and God willing, they will win, they will get independence,” Khan said. {Again, Dim accepting defeat .. Kashmiris were looking at Dimran for words of encouragement. Modi had to explicitly prick the balloon of the UNGA speech.}
“All Kashmiris, their women and children, are looking to Pakistan and its people. We will expose this fascist (Narendra) Modi government, this Muslim-hating government, on every platform,” he vowed.
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“When PM Imran Khan was talking about imprisonment of political workers and human rights violations in Jammu and Kashmir, his own countrymen were thinking about his double standards as he himself was responsible for such violations inside Pakistan,” Bilawal said.
“I wish the PM would have visited the whole world 50 days ago and raised the issue of Kashmir,” he added.
Amid a sustained diplomatic onslaught by Pakistan, the Modi government has received a shot in the arm with the main opposition party, Congress, saying it is in complete agreement with government’s position on Pakistan and terror threats emanating from that country. Pakistan has been fruitlessly attempting to highlight a purported slide in India’s respect for human rights and secularism in recent years.
This was the moment for India’s political class to unite and send a strong message that India stands together against Pakistan’s mischievous attempts to sow divides. Government can also respond positively to the Congress position by taking the party into confidence on its measures to restore normalcy in Kashmir, an issue on which Congress continues to differ with the government. At this point, only a successful post-Article 370 transition in Kashmir can permanently settle the dispute and end Pakistan’s attempts to stoke violence in the Valley and the rest of India.
Governments will come and go but India’s success in defending its position on Kashmir and against Pakistan has primarily rested on political consensus on the issue, focus on economic development, its robust democracy and better track record on human rights than all its Asian neighbours. In comparison, Pakistan fares poorly in all these areas. Unfortunately, in recent times there has been an attempt by our parties to tar each other by claiming their respective positions help Pakistan’s cause. Avoid playing into the enemy’s hands for a few extra votes. National interest will be best served when there is healthy debate, consensus and unflinching commitment to peace, economic progress and communal harmony.
Amid a sustained diplomatic onslaught by Pakistan, the Modi government has received a shot in the arm with the main opposition party, Congress, saying it is in complete agreement with government’s position on Pakistan and terror threats emanating from that country. Pakistan has been fruitlessly attempting to highlight a purported slide in India’s respect for human rights and secularism in recent years.
This was the moment for India’s political class to unite and send a strong message that India stands together against Pakistan’s mischievous attempts to sow divides. Government can also respond positively to the Congress position by taking the party into confidence on its measures to restore normalcy in Kashmir, an issue on which Congress continues to differ with the government. At this point, only a successful post-Article 370 transition in Kashmir can permanently settle the dispute and end Pakistan’s attempts to stoke violence in the Valley and the rest of India.
Governments will come and go but India’s success in defending its position on Kashmir and against Pakistan has primarily rested on political consensus on the issue, focus on economic development, its robust democracy and better track record on human rights than all its Asian neighbours. In comparison, Pakistan fares poorly in all these areas. Unfortunately, in recent times there has been an attempt by our parties to tar each other by claiming their respective positions help Pakistan’s cause. Avoid playing into the enemy’s hands for a few extra votes. National interest will be best served when there is healthy debate, consensus and unflinching commitment to peace, economic progress and communal harmony.
vimal wrote:This article in Coupta's print is getting circulated widely by Pukis.
No trade deal, no Kashmir win, no investment but BJP celebrating Modi return from US
Nothing on trade, no American company wants to invest and to top it all off, Modi was told he would ‘get along well’ with Imran Khan while in US.
Muhammad Malik did a panel discussion and was quoting Cuopta. Shekar Gupta should walk tall now as he has been certified as "Brilliant" and "Sane" by the Puki anchor.
partha wrote:
btw Mr Arnab Goswami on Republic TV is screaming that "India now dictates global order". lolwut?
DDM in general, but dorkie is such a pathetic joke. I don't know what his current ratings are, but he will suffer a hard landing at some point and then will be history. Its just embarrassing the level of exaggeration and delusion. The other channel is NewsX. Do these anchors clowns think that the world consists o a bunch of buffoons like them who will believe their bombastic claims?
That said, the one anchor with a subtle mix of pro-India, pro-ModiJi psy-ops and propaganda, and yet sober to a large extent is Rahul Shivshankar of TimesNow. In fact, I've seen Pappu wallahs and ModiJi haters like Ajai Shookla come on his show and he gives them a chance to spew their hate. He presents all sides with a lot less shouting and over the top claims.
WION is the only channel with a semblance of professionalism, though it has a long way to go in order to become something along the lines of ‘India’s NHK World’.
partha wrote:
btw Mr Arnab Goswami on Republic TV is screaming that "India now dictates global order". lolwut?
DDM in general, but dorkie is such a pathetic joke. I don't know what his current ratings are, but he will suffer a hard landing at some point and then will be history. Its just embarrassing the level of exaggeration and delusion. The other channel is NewsX. Do these anchors clowns think that the world consists o a bunch of buffoons like them who will believe their bombastic claims?
That said, the one anchor with a subtle mix of pro-India, pro-ModiJi psy-ops and propaganda, and yet sober to a large extent is Rahul Shivshankar of TimesNow. In fact, I've seen Pappu wallahs and ModiJi haters like Ajai Shookla come on his show and he gives them a chance to spew their hate. He presents all sides with a lot less shouting and over the top claims.
The current data says Republic TV is in the top in English News category followed by Timesnow and DD. But remember there are 10 times more people who watch Hindi News channels and Aaj Tak is the leading channel in that category.
