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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby wig » 06 Oct 2019 09:45

Ulan Batori Ji
Land is locally measured in Kanal. 1 Kanal = 5400 square feet. In the city of Srinagar that is a big plot and should be rather expensive to purchase.

The railway line is upto Katra which is about 45 kms from Jammu by road. The rail link from Katra to Banihal is under construction
Jammu to Srinagar is about 300 kms by road. the road after the Chenani Tunnel which is near Udhampur is in very bad shape.
Udhampur is on the train route to Katra.
people prefer to travel by air from Jammu to Srinagar due to the bad condition of the road. It takes a minimum of 7 to 9 hours driving from Jammu to Srinagar. That is if you are rather lucky not to get stuck in traffic jams. during the rains and when it snows heavily, many a times the road is closed for a few days. sometimes due to the road condition or traffic load vehicular traffic is permitted on one way. What it implies is that one day traffic will be permitted from Srinagar to Jammu and then on the next day from Jammu to Sringar. Local traffic is permitted however.
the road from Jammu to Srinagar is being upgraded. Another tunnel adjacent to the railway tunnel is coming up in Banihal to Qazigund. The road distance once the highway is completed with the tunnel is expected to be 220kms
Incidentally the railway line from Banihal to Srinagar and thence to Baramulla (130 Kms) has been commissioned.A local train for commuters is functional in the Kashmir valley since 2009-10 or thereabouts
the flying time on commercial flight is about 30 to 50 minutes.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vayutuvan » 06 Oct 2019 10:13

vimal wrote:Warren should first bring a resolution in UN to bring justice to the native american's who she claims to be a member of.

sorry to disagree. NDTV should first shut their TV station(s). if not justice will visit their and their promoters' premises. :mrgreen:

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby kit » 06 Oct 2019 18:24

*deleted., question answered in a previous post
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby kit » 06 Oct 2019 18:30

UlanBatori wrote:Spot the RAA Agints


I seriously think the "kashmiri freedom fighters" in POK should start their stone throwing business against the pakistani army

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 06 Oct 2019 20:43

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/k ... 2019-10-06
Kashmir: BSF foils Pakistani infiltration attempt at Nowgam sector
A group of men were caught crossing the Line of Control (LoC) in Nowgam sector early Sunday morning. The BSF caught sight of these intruders and opened fire. As a result, the group retreated back to PoK area.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 06 Oct 2019 20:45

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/farooq-o ... rom-jammu/
Farooq, Omar allowed to meet 15 party leaders from Jammu
AMMU, Oct 5: Exactly two months since their detention, National Conference president Dr Farooq Abdullah and vice president Omar Abdullah, both former Chief Ministers, were allowed meeting with their 15 leaders from Jammu province tomorrow to discuss future course of action including participation in the Block Development Council (BDC) elections scheduled to be held on October 24 with October 9 being last date for filing of nomination papers.

The Nationalist Panthers Party (NPP) today also announced its participation in the election while the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) will take call on the BDC polls in next couple of days. The BJP, Congress and some smaller groups have already announced their participation in the polls.

While there was no official word, reports said, number of candidates have joined the fray for the BDC elections even as the Congress was yet to release list of candidates. The Election Authority has already set up 310 polling stations and designated an equal number of Returning Officers and Assistant Returning Officers to conduct the polls, the nominations for which were opened on October 1.

In first major political activity in the Kashmir valley during past two months since abrogation of special Constitutional provisions of Jammu and Kashmir and bifurcation of the State into two Union Territories of J&K and Ladakh, the Government today permitted a 15-member delegation of National Conference led by party provincial president and former MLA Devender Singh Rana to meet NC president Dr Farooq Abdullah and vice president Omar Abdullah in Srinagar tomorrow.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 06 Oct 2019 20:46

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/admn-may ... -ist-week/
Admn may release 6 leaders in Phase-I in Nov Ist week
SRINAGAR, Oct 5: Senior officers in the administration today discussed names of some political leaders who could be released in the first phase to pave way for resumption of political activities in the Valley which have been stalled since August 5 following abrogation of Articles 370 and 35-A and bifurcation of the State into two Union Territories of J&K and Ladakh.

However, reliable sources told the Excelsior, that release of some political leaders in the first phase, discussed during today’s high-level meeting, might take place after bi-annual Durbar Move and formation of two Union Territories of J&K and Ladakh on October 31.

Six political leaders, whose names were discussed for release in the first phase, included Ali Mohammad Sagar, former Minister and Ishfaq Jabbar, former MLA from Ganderbal (both National Conference), Shah Faesal, bureaucrat-turned politician, who has floated his own Jammu and Kashmir’s People Movement, Naeem Akhter, former Minister (People’s Democratic Party), Junaid Mattoo (Mayor Srinagar Municipal Corporation) and Sheikh Imran (Deputy Mayor Srinagar Municipal Corporation).

Junaid Mattoo is under house arrest while five others have been arrested and lodged in temporary jails.

Sources said National Conference president and former Chief Minister Dr Farooq Abdullah could also be released in the first week of November after withdrawal of charges against him under the Public Safety Act (PSA).

However, no final decision has been taken so far, they added.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 06 Oct 2019 20:48

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/restore- ... hospitals/
Opinion
Restore internet facility in valley hospitals

With no significant review of communication clampdown in Kashmir valley, the hospitals there are experiencing hardships as works of different nature in administrative offices etc are stuck up due to snapping of internet services. Cases in hundreds under the flagship scheme of Ayushman Bharat Health Scheme, tendering work and the like are getting piled up and are pending. Restoring some communication system in hospitals at least for a few hours only during the working days could be mooted out and ways found to implement. Requests for ‘lease line’, from such hospitals, it is learnt, have not found favour with the administration.

Once the system is made fully dependent upon modern technology like the one under reference, withdrawing the same even for a very limited period meant total disruption of work as even if at one end manually it was done, at the other, because of various factors it would serve no purpose like response from other departments and agencies outside the State. Since Financial Commissioner, Health and Medical Education is reported to have understood the gravity of the matter, let us expect that at least hospitals shall be exempted from suspension of internet facilities from now onwards.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 06 Oct 2019 20:51

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/jk-polic ... r-justice/
J&K Police – Will UT status deliver justice?

Jammu and Kashmir Police is no doubt a force subjected to, really hostile and tormenting job profile. Thirty years and still counting is a time to face the never ending brunt of terrorism with thousands of sacrifices by JKP jawans and still fighting day and night to crush militancy. Police is not only facing terrorism but more pinching is the general public perception about police despite 24x7x365 days of tireless and thankless service to the society. Policing is no more a job of responsibility or to serve nation but has simply become a tool in the hands of politicians and higher officials. A visit to any police line will depict a sorry state of canteen, filthy unhygienic living conditions, 24X7 duty without any respite or concern, totally neglected families with no one there to help them out, neither society nor government. Ask any police martyr’s family who at present is taking care of them and how many times widow of the martyr has to visit various offices to get their dues as there is hustle bustle for ten to fifteen days after martyrdom under media glare and then everyone gets involved in their own lives just forgetting the social and moral responsibility of taking care of the distressed family.

Right from the recruitment to training a total outdated methodology is followed with no scientific training, no modern cyber crime training, no proper forensic analysis in curriculum making things totally unrealistic when the jawan gets on field duty with the result non registration of FIRs and shoddy investigation.
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On one hand no money to spend for welfare of jawans and on other hand crores being spent on higher officials’ accommodation by police as well as estate department, it seems Jammu and Kashmir Police has some other priorities on hand instead of focusing on the whole police force. Since no united forum for lower cadre all this goes without media glare and public attention and even government administration is just a silent spectator. Is this the way we treat the saviors of our society, answers are not hard to find but who will bell the cat in the end. With Jammu and Kashmir now going to be UT will it change the situation on ground for this belt force and whether timely corrective measures are taken to address all these glaring lapses remains to be seen. We cannot bring back our martyrs but our corrective actions will be a tribute to them.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 06 Oct 2019 21:06

J&K English language media:
"Frozen news sites" - front page of website stuck on August 5, 2019
Rising Kashmir: http://www.risingkashmir.com
Greater Kashmir: https://www.greaterkashmir.com
Kashmir Images: https://thekashmirimages.com

Not frozen:
Kashmir Times: http://www.kashmirtimes.com
Daily Excelsior: https://www.dailyexcelsior.com
Kashmir Reader: http://epaper.kashmirreader.net
State Times: http://news.statetimes.in

August 9th story on the press in Kashmir:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indi ... SKCN1UZ1M7

Kashmir has nearly 180 English and Urdu daily newspapers, but only five are publishing these days due to restrictions imposed by Indian authorities to prevent unrest after New Delhi revoked the state’s autonomy.


J&K Urdu language media (need to expand this list):
"Frozen news sites" - front page of website stuck on August 5, 2019
Daily Chattan: https://www.chattanonline.com
Not frozen:
Daily Roshni: http://www.dailyroshni.net

PS: IMO, we really need BRFers who can read Urdu to report on what the Kashmiri Urdu press is saying.

Who owns the IP address - nslookup the domain, and IP whois lookup -- check who has been assigned the IP address.
dailyroshni.net -- Limestone Networks, Inc., Dallas, Texas, USA
chattanonline.com -- Cloudflare Inc., San Francisco, California, USA
news.statetimes.in -- TransIP B.V., Leiden, The Netherlands
kashmirreader.net -- GoDaddy, Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
dailyexcelsior.com -- Software Technology Parks of India, Bangalore
kashmirtimes.com -- Limestone Networks, Inc., Dallas, Texas, USA
thekashmirimages.com -- Iliad Enterprises, Paris, France
greaterkashmir.com -- Sucuri, Menifee, California, USA
risingkashmir.com -- Contabo GmbH, München, Germany

I see neither rhyme nor reason about why some newspapers are updated and others are not (unless it is a form of protest?)
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 06 Oct 2019 21:33

kit wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:Spot the RAA Agints


I seriously think the "kashmiri freedom fighters" in POK should start their stone throwing business against the pakistani army

India could provide Foreign Aid as well as Advisors & Training by sending quite a few.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 06 Oct 2019 23:26

A_Gupta wrote:J&K English language media:
"Frozen news sites" - front page of website stuck on August 5, 2019
Rising Kashmir: http://www.risingkashmir.com
Greater Kashmir: https://www.greaterkashmir.com
Kashmir Images: https://thekashmirimages.com
Not frozen:
Kashmir Times: http://www.kashmirtimes.com
Daily Excelsior: https://www.dailyexcelsior.com
Kashmir Reader: http://epaper.kashmirreader.net
State Times: http://news.statetimes.in
I see neither rhyme nor reason about why some newspapers are updated and others are not (unless it is a form of protest?)

Guptaji,
The workers of the frozen newspapers may now be Sarkari mehmans and enjoying chicken biryani (not to speak of mirch ka saalan) at taxpayers expense. Hence no updates.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 06 Oct 2019 23:47

Video at link:

https://twitter.com/iamkash_kr/status/1 ... 1981166592
Kashyap Kadagattur
@iamkash_kr
Today's video update from Jehangir Chowk, Lal Chowk and Maisuma Srinagar. Almost all shops open at 0830 AM. Men, women and kids moving around freely. No curbs whatsoever. People thronged Srinagar flea market. Traffic jams at several places. Don't believe fake news. #Kashmir

PS: print copy of Greater Kashmir is visible in the video above; but it is one of the "frozen" websites.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby A_Gupta » 07 Oct 2019 00:40

IMO, it is entirely logical that given some leaders were under house arrest since August 5, even the most nationalistic of Kashmiri leaders needed to be in house arrest, in order to avoid current and future issues.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 07 Oct 2019 01:57

If u r a Cashmore neta and u r not arrested u r immediately identified as a raa agint. So they HAVE to be arrested. For them to have any hope of living.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 07 Oct 2019 02:04

Classic Misplaced Baggage ploy. Babucrats are in their element. :shock:

To an RTI query, Union Home Ministry says it has no information and directs applicant to the J&K administration.

The Home Ministry does not have information on any orders passed to block telecommunications and Internet, suspend radio and satellite television services, evacuate tourists and detain political leaders and activists in Jammu and Kashmir in August. The Ministry says it has no information on the names and locations of the detainees, and directed any queries to the State administration.

In response to a recent Right to Information request to share copies of such orders, directions or advisories, two Central public information officers of the Ministry’s J&K division said the information was not available with them.

The Ministry said, “The information might be available with the State government of J&K.”

However, the RTI application could not be forwarded to the J&K government as the RTI Act, 2005 is not applicable in the State, said the response. :P
According to it, a separate application could be filed under the State’s RTI law. This option is only available to the State’s residents.
A senior official in the J&K government said Central laws, including the RTI Act, 2005, would come into effect in J&K only when it became a Union Territory on October 31.
Venkatesh Nayak, the activist who filed the RTI request {Not exactly a CashMore-e inquiring about his relatives, hain?}, noted that the State of J&K had been under President’s Rule since December 19, 2018 and how was it possible that the Home Ministry did not have information on orders imposing travel and telecom restrictions.
“All powers of the Governor and the State Legislature stand transferred to the President of India. The work of the State Government is being carried out under the guidance of the Central Government through the State’s Governor who has only babus to run the administration,” he said on October 6.
“Any order imposing curbs on travel and telecommunications will at least be copied to the Union Home Ministry in which the J&K Division is housed, if not actually directed by the MHA. So the CPIOs’ replies that they have no information about the curbs imposed and the arrests and detention of residents of J&K are not based on truth and reality,” he said on October 6.
Mr. Nayak filed his RTI application on August 30, almost a month after the shutdown of the State in preparation for the government’s announcement regarding the amendment of Article 370. Apart from copies of the relevant orders, he asked for the names of the political leaders and activists under detention or custody, the addresses where they are being held, and the law under which they were detained.
Pass the question
The first CPIO, T. Sreekanth, said no information was available with them, and passed on the query to the second CPIO. She responded that the “information sought by you is not available with the undersigned CPIO.”
Instead, she directed the RTI applicant to the J&K State government for further queries.
An earlier request by RTI activist Nutan Thakur for a copy of the Ministry’s file on the decision to amend Article 370 had been denied, citing exemptions allowed under the RTI Act without specifying the specific reason for exemption being claimed.


Must have been part of the Indo-US Bureaucratic Techniques Exchange Summit. This is pretty-much what the FreeBiscuits do too, with FOIA requests. :P

What "state of J&K"? It don't exist no more.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 07 Oct 2019 02:08

Wow! The GOI is unleashing 72 years of suppressed "astras".

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Postby CRamS » 07 Oct 2019 02:44

Guys, don't know if this has been posted, but here a decent discussion on J&K by the Hudson Institute.

One of our own SDRE, Aparna Pandey moderated and she did a good job. I like this guy Jeff Smith from Heritage Foundation who gave it like it about TSP and whole hypocrisy.

But what shocked me was how much more Paki the supposed "Indian" guy, Salman Soz was than Shuja Nawaz the Paki on the show.

Please watch and see this traitor Soz's position. He repeatedly uses the phrase, India, TSP, and "us Kashmiris", meaning Kashmir is not part if India. This scum bag has taken oath under the Indian constitution?

Furthermore, Soz never, even once, even when Jeff Smith forcefully said so, accepted that the real core issue is Paki terrorism. Instead whining about the separateness of "us Kashmiris", India and TSP should talk and give "us" a voice. No wonder with mofo traitors like him who no doubt collude with Paki ISI, Indian govt have locked up these so called 'mainstream politicians' post 370

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAji2zvXf0Y

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vijayk » 07 Oct 2019 03:43

Does any one watch TAG TV?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP3zJU ... VGiRd9pqgg

Their narrative is anti Paki though they are canadian Pakis

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 07 Oct 2019 05:55

UlanBatori wrote:If u r a Cashmore neta and u r not arrested u r immediately identified as a raa agint. So they HAVE to be arrested. For them to have any hope of living.

Any well known or even lesser known Kash neta takes money from both sides and work for both sides at the same time. When they talk of retaining Kash-miriyat, they mean that the system of retaining money from both sides must not be taken away.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Primus » 07 Oct 2019 06:43

vijayk wrote:Does any one watch TAG TV?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP3zJU ... VGiRd9pqgg

Their narrative is anti Paki though they are canadian Pakis




TAG (Tahir Aslam Gora) is a well balanced person, worth listening to, along with Mohammed Rizwan. I quite enjoy their discussions. Rizwan in one of his interviews said he had visited Ajmal Kasab's house and talked to his neighbors, very revealing stuff that nobody else has ever spoken about.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Bart S » 07 Oct 2019 09:34

CRamS wrote:
Please watch and see this traitor Soz's position. He repeatedly uses the phrase, India, TSP, and "us Kashmiris", meaning Kashmir is not part if India. This scum bag has taken oath under the Indian constitution?




He is a card carrying INC member and son of INC-Kashmir stalwart Saifuddin Soz so what do you expect, especially given the recent display of Ghulam Nabi Azad going full Paki?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 07 Oct 2019 10:56

Bart S wrote:
CRamS wrote:
Please watch and see this traitor Soz's position. He repeatedly uses the phrase, India, TSP, and "us Kashmiris", meaning Kashmir is not part if India. This scum bag has taken oath under the Indian constitution?




He is a card carrying INC member and son of INC-Kashmir stalwart Saifuddin Soz so what do you expect, especially given the recent display of Ghulam Nabi Azad going full Paki?

Had a trainee colleague from Cash more (surname kaul) who on usual indian style intro stressed 'I am from Cash more' :roll:
Had done UG/PG in AIIMS.
So its not just peacefuls but own kind act the same.
Have ever heard Nidhi R from 'Mandi''TV in full flow!!! :)

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 07 Oct 2019 15:57

Cross Posting from Turkey thread
Rony wrote:
US to let Turkish forces move into Syria, abandoning Kurdish allies



Kurdish forces have spearheaded the campaign against Isis in the region, but the policy swerve, following a phone conversation between Donald Trump and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Sunday, means Turkey would take custody of captured Isis fighters, the White House said.




The statement suggested that in return for US acquiescence in a Turkish offensive, Erdoğan had assured Trump that Turkey would take over the detention of Isis militants captured by the SDF, on the battlefield. The custody of Europeans and other foreign fighters has long been one of Trump’s preoccupations, and he has lambasted European governments for not taking responsibility for their own nationals in Isis ranks.[/quote]




Ronyji
The worry here is:
Where will these guys go ultimately. :roll:
Remember the recent Dimran's announcement of 'Trioka'
SMQ waiting in the wings to occupy the 'Electric Chair'
'Cash more' not going up conflagration.
Jarnails not happy with Dimmy.
Recent FATF report not conducive to TSP.
Fazalur threating to start the peacefuls version of the 'Long March'
My worry is these guys will ultimately given a choice 'Cash more' and 72 or bullet in the head.
And a large percentage would accept 'Cash more' as they already have a experience of subjugating Yazidis, Iraqis etc., so the 'Cash mooris' will be the gullible 'Low Hanging Fruit' to be plucked!!! :eek:

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby wig » 07 Oct 2019 20:30

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/natio ... 43714.html

Plan in works for better deal for tribes in J&K
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Sources in the security establishment say besides structural and administrative changes, which will set in once the two UTs come into existence, work is in progress to look for possible ways of “re-densification” of the population.

A senior Intelligence Bureau (IB) official said the idea was presently being worked out at the security agencies’ level and “once the plan is finalised, a report will be shared with the higher-ups in the government”. Sources say the agencies are presently weighing two models — Pakistani and Chinese. Pakistani authorities undertook measures like settling Punjabis in PoK with active support from the country’s army, whereas Chinese did the same in Tibet’s Xinjiang by incentivising new settlers,
they say. They, however, contend despite J&K being fully integrated with mainland India, directly copying and implementing either of the two models will not work in the prevailing situation at least for a few initial years. “Therefore, we are working on evolving a model of our own for re-densification of population in the state,” said a senior official.
The plan, as being worked out, is to first “instil confidence” among the local tribes, who are currently living on the margins, the sources say, adding the aim will be to mainstream them.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 07 Oct 2019 21:07

Bart S wrote:
CRamS wrote:
Please watch and see this traitor Soz's position. He repeatedly uses the phrase, India, TSP, and "us Kashmiris", meaning Kashmir is not part if India. This scum bag has taken oath under the Indian constitution?



He is a card carrying INC member and son of INC-Kashmir stalwart Saifuddin Soz so what do you expect, especially given the recent display of Ghulam Nabi Azad going full Paki?



not sure but he may also be a full fledged ameriki citizen.

many second generation cashmeri jihadis have claimed persecution and obtained ameriki/EU passports

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Postby CRamS » 07 Oct 2019 21:24

^^ Definetly, because he has a shudh US accent. So he must have grown up in US.

Furthermore, exactly like TSP RAPE, Salman Soz has that TFTA arrogance when talking about BJP, RSS, ModiJi. I mean as the "Indian" on the panel, one would have thought he would forcefully advocate India's position, take TSP to task both for terror and in their bold-faced lies and hypocrisy in the manner in which Jeff Smith articulated or that guy in the audience from Gilgit-Baltistan doid; and he could have done so even while expressing polite disagreement over the 370 decision.

But no, he showed his 'separateness' as a badge of honor around his neck. Not once did he even lament TSP terror except to say Pakis haven't done "us Kashmiris" no favor, not a single, I mean not a single word about the ethnic cleansing of Hindus from the valley.

With "Indians" like, we don't need Pakis. In fact, going forward, given FATF and worlds lens on TSP's use of pigLeTs, I see Pakis using the Salmozn soz type traitors to undermine India in international fora. This may have some effect, because the dominate opinion in India, both left and right, cater to what the 'international community' thinks.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vijayk » 07 Oct 2019 23:02

We need a very articulate Muslim Indian politicians abusing/debukingImran/Pakis/Turkey and Malaysia and call them as Islamic nuts destroying Muslim people's prospects all over the world

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Postby Vikas » 07 Oct 2019 23:12

CRamS wrote:^^ Definetly, because he has a shudh US accent. So he must have grown up in US.

Furthermore, exactly like TSP RAPE, Salman Soz has that TFTA arrogance when talking about BJP, RSS, ModiJi. I mean as the "Indian" on the panel, one would have thought he would forcefully advocate India's position, take TSP to task both for terror and in their bold-faced lies and hypocrisy in the manner in which Jeff Smith articulated or that guy in the audience from Gilgit-Baltistan doid; and he could have done so even while expressing polite disagreement over the 370 decision.

But no, he showed his 'separateness' as a badge of honor around his neck. Not once did he even lament TSP terror except to say Pakis haven't done "us Kashmiris" no favor, not a single, I mean not a single word about the ethnic cleansing of Hindus from the valley.

With "Indians" like, we don't need Pakis. In fact, going forward, given FATF and worlds lens on TSP's use of pigLeTs, I see Pakis using the Salmozn soz type traitors to undermine India in international fora. This may have some effect, because the dominate opinion in India, both left and right, cater to what the 'international community' thinks.


CRamS ji, If the CV says, Muslim from Kashmir then their is almost 99% certainty that the guy would be sympathetic Paki position and would run down India and spew crap about Kashmiriyat. Ethenic cleansing of Hindus from Kashmir is something that never happened in their universe.
There are hardly any Pro-India voice among Muslims of Srinagar as much as GoI tries to spin a contrary picture for rest of the India.

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Postby KJo » 07 Oct 2019 23:19

vijayk wrote:We need a very articulate Muslim Indian politicians abusing/debukingImran/Pakis/Turkey and Malaysia and call them as Islamic nuts destroying Muslim people's prospects all over the world


Owaisi is pretty articulate and aggressive. Too bad he is a jihadi nutjob as well who secretly wants to make India an Islamic state.

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Postby Narad » 07 Oct 2019 23:44

J&K governor directs for lifting of security advisory to tourists
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/jk-gov ... 483020.cms

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Postby chetak » 07 Oct 2019 23:48

KJo wrote:
vijayk wrote:We need a very articulate Muslim Indian politicians abusing/debukingImran/Pakis/Turkey and Malaysia and call them as Islamic nuts destroying Muslim people's prospects all over the world


Owaisi is pretty articulate and aggressive. Too bad he is a jihadi nutjob as well who secretly wants to make India an Islamic state.


the guy is a UK educated lawyer.

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Postby Rsatchi » 08 Oct 2019 00:09

chetak wrote:
KJo wrote:
Owaisi is pretty articulate and aggressive. Too bad he is a jihadi nutjob as well who secretly wants to make India an Islamic state.


the guy is a UK educated lawyer.

Chetakji
He is a barrister I don't think he ever practiced law in India. :shock:
Doesn't much care for Indian laws?? probably still a healthy dollop of 'Razakar' persisting you reckon!!
Just like the peacefuls to use big words like secular, democracy, etc a la 'Dar Ul Harrab' type. :roll:
Probably waiting for Hyderabad to join the Hyderabad in the west to start law practice. :D

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Postby Kakkaji » 08 Oct 2019 00:22

Has the Governor approved starting delimitation of constituencies in J&K yet? That needs to be done quick, so that Jammu gets better representation in the next election vis-a-vis KV.

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Postby UlanBatori » 08 Oct 2019 00:37

Tourist gates to reopen? Isn't that like Fridin call to brayer for the terrorists? Tough job for the Army.

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Postby g.sarkar » 08 Oct 2019 01:01

I agree. Tourists will bring cash to Cashmore again. A good percentage of that money will go straight to the freedom fighters such as nannah stone throwers and other beasts. They are, as we say in a Bengali proverb, like starving bedbugs at this point of time. No mun no fun. Any jihadi movement takes a lot of money to run.
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Postby KJo » 08 Oct 2019 01:14

chetak wrote:
KJo wrote:
Owaisi is pretty articulate and aggressive. Too bad he is a jihadi nutjob as well who secretly wants to make India an Islamic state.


the guy is a UK educated lawyer.


Maybe Mohammed Kaif, the ex cricketer should join paaltiks. His heart is definitely in the right place.

https://twitter.com/MohammadKaif/status ... 1454077952
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Postby chetak » 08 Oct 2019 01:15

Rsatchi wrote:
chetak wrote:
the guy is a UK educated lawyer.

Chetakji
He is a barrister I don't think he ever practiced law in India. :shock:
Doesn't much care for Indian laws?? probably still a healthy dollop of 'Razakar' persisting you reckon!!
Just like the peacefuls to use big words like secular, democracy, etc a la 'Dar Ul Harrab' type. :roll:
Probably waiting for Hyderabad to join the Hyderabad in the west to start law practice. :D



Sirji,

he is a razakar with national ambitions. He wants to lead the Indian ummah but the jehadis in UP, bihar and other states will not let him rise.

BTW, isn't he a shia.

for the moment his support and funding come from telangana Hindu politicos with whom he had struck a deal during the 2014 elections.


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