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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby wig » 20 Dec 2019 13:26

This is an article by a person who resided in the upper areas of Jammu Province and details the terror they had to face. The sacrifices made by the members of Village Defence Committees and the general population.
it needs to be read in full. excerpts do not do justice
https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/terror-t ... young-man/
the terror
As a young man born in early 90s in one of the most treacherous terrains of Jammu & Kashmir, I realize my first feeling wasn’t a feeling of love of my mother or affection from my father but of fear of terrorists emanating from the gunshots

the savagery of islam and its practitioners
When the people forced by the huge amount of cattle in their household were forced to send someone to higher terrains carved a strategy to send their women preferably older ones considering the fact that the terrorists used to call themselves jihadi and they were supposed not to attack the women. But while juxtaposing this stance came an instance when the terrorists killed an old Hindu lady in higher reaches of Doda; with another fatwa which sent shivers down the gut of every Hindu living in the terrains of Jammu; “Humkosirf Hindustani khoonchahiye; mard, aurat, budha, jawaan se kyamtlb”. Imagine the savagery!


and the caliber of the J & K administration and police
Imagine the tyranny, when almost 40 terrorists led by a local militant who was identified as well; kidnapped and murdered a young man named Bhabhishan Singh. A FIR was lodged and all the formalities took place and what police did finally? They filed a closure report in the matter; meaning thereby no one killed that young man, no one had cut his tongue, no one made a slitin his throat, no one mutilated his ears, in short the whole blame goes to no one. The things get awry when a son can easily identify the killer of his father but now the killer is uniformed and hence protected. This is Art. 370 for a 3-years old son who had to lit the pyre of his father brutally murdered by the terrorists and the state stood in silent privy to the aggressors. Leave aside justice not even a criminal trial took place against the killers for the merciless murder of his father. The villagers even knew the local aid of the terrorists who killed 22 persons in one night and in one single room, but police never bothered to investigate and subsequently prosecute him.


the fixing of the recuritment of govt employees
What I encountered was the fact that jihad wasn’t only with Klashinkovs but through recruitments as well; majority of names, almost 80% in every recruitment list belonged to Kashmir and whenever someone was caught, just the names were changed while the discrimination always grew stronger and stronger.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Gerard » 22 Dec 2019 02:08

The Indian Army on Saturday rejected social media rumours that it opened the fence at the Line of Control (LoC) and captured a village in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK). The Army said that such speculation were being spread on social media by vested interests to further the agenda of Pakistan. News agency ANI cited Army sources labelling the rumours as part of Pakistan’s misinformation campaign

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 22 Dec 2019 03:42

In the words of "Yes Minister", if it is Denied Officially it must be true. What's this about Neelum Valley Hwy being declared Open Paki-Hunting Zone? Where was that announced?

OTOH, this is a NEAT idea. Gandhian Terror. Get a few really loud concert speakers, put them on jeeps, play helicopter and jet aircraft and shell sounds and run them along the Yellow Sea. Fix a few posts that are leaning, using earthmover equipment. Put out a Denial next day saying
Indian Army strongly denies social media rumors that we conducted a combined land-air raid on a Brigade HQ inside POrK, killed 15 Pak troops and 27 terrorists, and captured 1 No.s Brigadiers and 2 Colonels who have been Handed Over to RAA for interrogation. Such Social Media rumors have no credence. All our troops returned safely to base and are laughing about the Brigadier's polka dot briefs.


Show a video of that revered Sardar the 15Corps Jarnail guffawing. :eek:

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 22 Dec 2019 09:24

It's real: Daily Excelsior shows photos

Army targets LeT, JeM terror launch pad in Neelum Valley; many dead
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Daily Excelsior -
22/12/2019

2 Pak jawans killed, bid to regain posts foiled
Situation remains tense on LoC
Sanjeev Pargal
JAMMU, Dec 21: Pakistan army last night made fresh attempt to regain its lost posts in Khour and Pallanwalla areas on the Line of Control (LoC) in Akhnoor sector of this district but their attempt was foiled by the Indian troops resulting into death of at least two Pakistani troopers while Army destroyed a terror launch pad of Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) outfits in forward area of Neelum Valley in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) opposite Kupwara sector, leaving many militants inside dead.
There has been spurt in ceasefire violations by Pakistan army on the LoC in Jammu and Kashmir during past few days, the latest one being witnessed on December 19 when Pakistan’s Brigade Headquarters and Special Services Group (SSG) Centres were hit in the Indian retaliation leading to several casualties, both fatal and non fatal, across the LoC.
Sources told the Excelsior that after a gap of about a fortnight, Pakistan army last night made yet another attempt, third in past one month, to regain four to five posts which they had lost in retaliatory action by the Indian troops earlier, by resorting to very heavy volume of firing and shelling on forward posts and civilian locations along LoC in Khour and Pallanwalla sectors of Akhnoor tehsil.
The Indian Army which was anticipating such an attempt by Pakistani troops retaliated Pakistani shelling and firing very effectively, leading to heavy exchanges that lasted for about two hours. Thereafter, small arms firing also continued for next three hours. However, Pakistan army failed in its plot to regain the last posts.
“At least two Pakistan army personnel were killed in retaliation action by the Indian troops. Their bodies were lying on the LoC but till this afternoon, Pakistan army made no attempt to retrieve the bodies even as there was no firing from the Indian side during the day,’’ sources said, adding that Pakistan was desperate to regain the lost posts to use them for facilitating infiltration attempts into the Indian territory.
Subsequent intercepts confirmed the killing of two Pakistan army personnel in Indian retaliatory firing and extensive damage to one Pakistani bunker. However, there were no casualties or damage on the Indian side in Pakistani firing.
A physical verification, however, could not be carried out because of the tense situation along the Line of Control, sources said.
“There was heavy exchange of fire between India and Pakistan armies after the later violated the ceasefire in Akhnoor sector during the intervening night of December 20 and 21,” Jammu-based Army PRO Lt Col Devender Anand said, adding further details are awaited.
He said the Pakistan army also initiated unprovoked ceasefire violation by firing of small arms and shelling with mortars and artillery in Keri Battal area of Sunderbani sector in Rajouri district around 11.30 am.
“Indian Army retaliated befittingly,” he said adding the heavy exchange of fire between the two sides was going on when last reports were received.
A police official said a number of forward villages were hit by the Pakistani shells but there was no immediate report of any casualty.
“People have been advised to stay inside underground bunkers and take precautionary measures to avoid any casualty during Pakistan shelling and firing,” he added. Meanwhile, a terror launch pad has been destroyed by the Army in Neelum Valley of Pakistan occupied Kashmir opposite Kupwara sector on the LoC. Sources said the terror launch pad was targeted by the Indian Army in forward area of Neelum Valley after developing specific inputs that the Pakistan army personnel had kept militants of LeT and JeM outfits there to push them into the Kashmir valley.
“The terror camp was accurately hit,’’ sources said but couldn’t confirm number of casualties of the militants as the camp caught fire and was destroyed. The camp was being protected by Pakistan army’s Special Services Group from four adjacent buildings. However, many militants hiding inside the camp were believed to have been killed.
Sources said the camp had been located in the village but Pakistan army had already shifted civilian population from there and structures had been occupied by the Pakistan SSG personnel. Ambulances were seen moving in the area.
However, the LoC in twin border districts of Poonch and Rajouri remained peaceful since yesterday. LoC in these two districts has been very active for the past several months with Pakistan army regularly resorting to shelling and firing on the Indian forward posts as well as civilian locations.
Ceasefire violations by Pakistan army which started after February 14 Pulwama attack in which 44 CRPF personnel were martyred, had intensified since August 5 when the Centre scrapped special Constitutional provisions of Jammu and Kashmir and bifurcated the State into two Union Territories of J&K and Ladakh. Pakistan army has suffered heavy casualties and infrastructural losses in retaliation by the Indian troops but it continued to aid and abet infiltration by the militants on the LoC under the covering fire. However, majority of infiltration attempts have been foiled by the troops.
Meanwhile, India and Pakistan troops exchanged heavy shelling along the LoC in North Kashmir today.
An official said that Pakistani troops violated ceasefire along the LoC in Keran sector of Kupwara this evening.
He said that firing started at around 4:15 p.m. and continued till 7:30 p.m. “Both the sides used mortars and heavy machine guns to target each other’s posts”, he said.


I don't think it is acceptable to have Pakis shell Indian villages. LOC needs to be moved sufficiently inside POK to put Indian villages out of reach of Paki shells. Like to the Indus or the Durand Line

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Dec 2019 05:39

Meanwhile.. buried in the news somewhere...

And confirming that: 7000 troops return to their usual quarters.
Govt eases out troops deployment in Kashmir with ‘immediate effect’
The ministry of home affairs on Monday ordered the withdrawal of 72 companies or approximately 7000 personnel of the Central Armed Police Forces (CAPFs) with “immediate effect” and deploy them to their respective posts.


They included troops from the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF), Border Security Force (BSF), Central Industrial Security Force (CISF), Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) and Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB).

Earlier, around 20 companies were withdrawn from Kashmir and deployed in Assam in the second week of December.


Bhy 72, hain? :eek:
And.. Situation NAAAAAAAAAARMAAAAAAL

Apart from the regular 61 battalions or nearly 62,000 personnel of CRPF, the Centre had rushed 70 more battalions—around 75,000 personnel—to J&K in August and September for the law and order duties and counter-insurgency operations.
“The situation is very much under control in J&K and things are back to normal. The operations against terror groups will continue and law and order situation will be monitored on a regular basis,” an official with the home ministry said.
According to the government, not even a single death has happened due to police firing in law and order related incidents in J&K during this period.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vimal » 25 Dec 2019 06:34

UlanBatori wrote:It's real: Daily Excelsior shows photos

Army targets LeT, JeM terror launch pad in Neelum Valley; many dead
By
Daily Excelsior -
22/12/2019

2 Pak jawans killed, bid to regain posts foiled
Situation remains tense on LoC
Sanjeev Pargal
JAMMU, Dec 21:
Sources told the Excelsior that after a gap of about a fortnight, Pakistan army last night made yet another attempt, third in past one month, to regain four to five posts which they had lost in retaliatory action by the Indian troops earlier, by resorting to very heavy volume of firing and shelling on forward posts and civilian locations along LoC in Khour and Pallanwalla sectors of Akhnoor tehsil.


It seems like these posts were really important from paki pov to facilitate infiltration making pukes desperate to take these back. I also wonder how much of LOC has actually changed on the ground in the past 5 years.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Dec 2019 07:14

YAWN of course quotes the ever-believable ISPR claiming that IA suffered heavy casualties...

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sachin » 25 Dec 2019 13:32

What should also be noted is that Kashmiri contribution to the anti-CAA riots are pretty much 0%. No sense of entitlement, no Jehad calls, no Islamic rage boy in action etc. etc.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Dec 2019 19:10

All the Pro-Constitution Cash-More Freedom Fighters are lolling by the heated pools in the Srinagar Centaur RatMotel, or breaking rocks in Arunachal. OR.... the Lesson has seeped in. Like it might in Madhya Pradesh with curfew and 144 in most districts.

Real reason is lack of funding. I bet the risk-payoff ratio is just waaaaay too high for any smart riot-investor or ISI handler to send cash to CashMore these days for minor things like stone-throwing.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 29 Dec 2019 02:15

I am upset too. the Sheikh's birthday, death day, marriage day, birth of his children's days, all should be declared national holidays.
https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/nc-angui ... ks-review/
NC anguished over deletion of Sheikh Abdullah’s birth anniversary from calendar, seeks review
By Daily Excelsior -29/12/2019

Excelsior Correspondent
JAMMU, Dec 28: Expressing anguish over deletion of birth anniversary of Sheikh Mohammed Abdullah from the official Jammu and Kashmir Holiday Calendar 2020, National Conference today sought review in the decision, saying the contribution of Sher-e-Kashmir in democratic awakening of his people cannot be undermined, as it stands acclaimed nationally and internationally.
“Sheikh Abdullah was a visionary mass leader and statesman who rejected two-nation theory of Mohammed Ali Jinnah over secularism of the Father of Nation Mahatma Gandhi”, Provincial President Devender Singh Rana said while addressing a press conference at Sher-e-Kashmir Bhavan here this evening. He was flanked by senior party leaders including former ministers Ajay Kumar Sadhotra and Surjeet Singh Slathia besides Rattan Lal Gupta, Th Rachpal Singh, Babu Ram Pal and Trilochan Singh Wazir.
Rana said the towering personality of Sher-e-Kashmir cannot be confined in the myopic prism of regional politics, as he fought for democracy when the entire nation was struggling to break the shackles of British under Mahatma Gandhi. Being contemporary of Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru, Frontier Gandhi Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan, Maualana Abul Kalam Azad and many other national leaders, Sheikh Sahib fought for the marginalized people of Jammu and Kashmir, irrespective of region, religion, caste or creed. His exemplary role during the horrendous days of partition was acknowledged by the suffering masses of the entire sub-continent which got reflection in the sentiments of the Mahatma, who had observed ‘light of ray emanated from the soil of Kashmir’, he added.
Enumerating the observations of luminaries like former President Neelam Sanjiva Reddy about inspiring leadership of Sher-e-Kashmir, describing him as Sher-e-Bharat, the Provincial President said similar sentiments echoed again in the December 1990 Monograph of Lok Sabha Secretariat with eminent parliamentarians of the era sharing their sentiments about political philosophy of Sheikh Abdullah in voluminous compendium. He quoted Pt Jawaharlal Nehru saying, Sheikh Abdullah is Jammu and Kashmir and Jammu and Kashmir is Sheikh Abdullah. Similarly, Atal Behari Vajpayee described Sher-e-Kashmir as identity of J&K while L K Advani said, “For decades, Kashmir’s politics has come to be identified with the personality of the Sheikh”.
......
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Gerard » 29 Dec 2019 07:03

What a silly pretentious title. Sher-e-Kashmir. If these clowns so admire him, let them name their children after him. In fact they can all change their names to Mohammed Abdullah.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 29 Dec 2019 08:02

Imagine! RaGa will one day be remembered as Gaand-e-Amethi!

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Postby Vikas » 30 Dec 2019 16:40

“Sheikh Abdullah was a visionary mass leader and statesman who rejected two-nation theory of Mohammed Ali Jinnah over secularism of the Father of Nation Mahatma Gandhi”, Provincial President Devender Singh Rana said while addressing a press conference at Sher-e-Kashmir Bhavan here this evening. He was flanked by senior party leaders including former ministers Ajay Kumar Sadhotra and Surjeet Singh Slathia besides Rattan Lal Gupta, Th Rachpal Singh, Babu Ram Pal and Trilochan Singh Wazir.


Devender Singh Rana is brother of Dr. Jitendra Singh (MoS in PMO) while rest of the luminaries are from Jammu (mostly Dogras), A region which Abdullah crushed with heavy hand and total religious discrimination.
Talk about Dhimmis and Chameleons.

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Postby pankajs » 30 Dec 2019 19:33

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... d-6191684/
Five Kashmiri political leaders, detained since August 5, released
The political leaders were released from MLA hostel, located on the banks of Dal Lake, where thirty-four political detainees were shifted. Two other detainees-Dilawar Mir of the PDP and Ghulam Hassan Mir of the Democratic Party Nationalist- were released last month.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 30 Dec 2019 22:05

https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/ ... 4453227520
Raghav Ohri @raghavohri0

CBI conducting searches 13 locations in Srinagar, Jammu, Gurgaon and Noida at the premises of then DC/DM Kupwara, Barmula, Udhampur, Kishtwar, Sopian, Rajouri, Doda, Pulwama, in a probe of 2 cases releated to allegations of issuance of around 2 lakh Arms Licences by DC/DMs

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Postby Vikas » 31 Dec 2019 11:01

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/1211537414453227520
Raghav Ohri @raghavohri0

CBI conducting searches 13 locations in Srinagar, Jammu, Gurgaon and Noida at the premises of then DC/DM Kupwara, Barmula, Udhampur, Kishtwar, Sopian, Rajouri, Doda, Pulwama, in a probe of 2 cases releated to allegations of issuance of around 2 lakh Arms Licences by DC/DMs


2 Lakh arms licenses ? What were they doing ? Trying to create an Army ?
The number looks suspiciously high especially knowing how hard it is to get an Arms license anywhere in India.

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Postby Yagnasri » 31 Dec 2019 13:10

56 police got hurt with bullet wounds in anti CAA riots in UP alone. Lot of illegal arms are already there. There is in fact big illegal arms industry in India also. The problem is only criminal and terrorist end up having weapons and not common people. The arms act only ensured common people are unarmed. That is all.

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Postby UlanBatori » 31 Dec 2019 14:48

Vikas wrote:
pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/1211537414453227520
2 Lakh arms licenses ? What were they doing ? Trying to create an Army ?
The number looks suspiciously high especially knowing how hard it is to get an Arms license anywhere in India.


IIRC, in the late 90s, Village Defence Councils(?) were formed as the only hope of countering the nocturnal vijits of the L-e-T. I assume that this was the rationale, but of course what happened in reality is as usual open to question. There were a few incidents where terrorists were at least scared off - or probably decided to go murder somewhere else. Were they scared off - or bought off with weapons/ammo - one wonders, but maybe it DID serve some of the functions of a "local Army" as in the western movies.

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Postby Vikas » 31 Dec 2019 16:11

UlanBatori wrote:
Vikas wrote:2 Lakh arms licenses ? What were they doing ? Trying to create an Army ?
The number looks suspiciously high especially knowing how hard it is to get an Arms license anywhere in India.


IIRC, in the late 90s, Village Defence Councils(?) were formed as the only hope of countering the nocturnal vijits of the L-e-T. I assume that this was the rationale, but of course what happened in reality is as usual open to question. There were a few incidents where terrorists were at least scared off - or probably decided to go murder somewhere else. Were they scared off - or bought off with weapons/ammo - one wonders, but maybe it DID serve some of the functions of a "local Army" as in the western movies.


Looks like everyone got licences including armed forces too (Do SF need gun licence for official duty ??).
Bit dated news but still gives good insight.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 318355.cms

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr

It was also alleged that the then public servants received illegal gratification in issuance of licences to non-residents of Jammu and Kashmir in violation of rules, they said.
The case was handed over to the CBI on the basis of a recommendation from Rajasthan Director General of Police OP Galhotra as the anti-terror squad (ATS) had busted a racket related to the matter.

TThe Rajasthan ATS had estimated that around 4.29 lakh arms licences were issued in the last decade from various districts of militancy-hit Jammu and Kashmir.

The CBI is searching the premises of Mudgil, a 2007-batch IAS officer, the then DC Baramulla, Rajiv Ranjan, a 2010-batch IAS officer, then DC Kupwara, Itrat Hussain, the then DM Kupwara, Salim Mohammed, the then DM Kishtwar, Mohammed Junaid Khan, the then DM Kishtwar, FC Bhagat, the then DM Rajouri, Farooq Ahmed Khan, the then DM Doda and Jenhagir Ahmed Mir, the then DM Pulwama, the officials said.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 31 Dec 2019 18:22

Why does naam Rajiv Ranjan sound familiar? Did he evolve into a Harsh Mander-2?

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Postby vishvak » 31 Dec 2019 20:43

Apparently there are few Rajiv Ranjan in mediia (first two names).

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sanju » 01 Jan 2020 00:03

Yagnasri wrote:56 police got hurt with bullet wounds in anti CAA riots in UP alone. Lot of illegal arms are already there. There is in fact big illegal arms industry in India also. The problem is only criminal and terrorist end up having weapons and not common people. The arms act only ensured common people are unarmed. That is all.


Yagnsari ji that number has been updated to 61. :(

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Postby Vikas » 02 Jan 2020 12:09

UlanBatori wrote:Why does naam Rajiv Ranjan sound familiar? Did he evolve into a Harsh Mander-2?


Looks like this was tip of the iceberg. The wires of this scandal seems to be connected far and wide.

https://www.firstpost.com/india/top-jam ... 47561.html

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Vikas wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:Why does naam Rajiv Ranjan sound familiar? Did he evolve into a Harsh Mander-2?

Looks like this was tip of the iceberg. The wires of this scandal seems to be connected far and wide.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/top-jam ... 47561.html


ramana, this is one of many smoking guns (pun intended) about why 370 had to be scrapped and the state kleptocracy taken over by UT (kleptocracy?)
Impossible to bring rule of law without this.

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Vikas wrote:
pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/1211537414453227520


2 Lakh arms licenses ? What were they doing ? Trying to create an Army ?
The number looks suspiciously high especially knowing how hard it is to get an Arms license anywhere in India.


things become clearer when you understand that many of these licenses are valid on an all India basis.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

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Gerard wrote:What a silly pretentious title. Sher-e-Kashmir. If these clowns so admire him, let them name their children after him. In fact they can all change their names to Mohammed Abdullah.


He is Billi-e-Cashmere.
Looted lots of money from India and US too!!!

Those guys look like Dhimmi faction of NC allowed to sing praises for B-e-C.

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Postby Vikas » 03 Jan 2020 11:04

ramana wrote:
Gerard wrote:What a silly pretentious title. Sher-e-Kashmir. If these clowns so admire him, let them name their children after him. In fact they can all change their names to Mohammed Abdullah.


He is Billi-e-Cashmere.
Looted lots of money from India and US too!!!

Those guys look like Dhimmi faction of NC allowed to sing praises for B-e-C.


Ramana Ji, You are still keeping him in the cat family. He was Hyena-e-Kashmir. His family till now was collecting rent money from Delhi.
As much as I hate to admit this, Non-Muslims of J&K are full of Dhimmis still singing ayats in his honor including Dogra, Gujjar, KP and almost all the Sikhs.


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Postby Supratik » 04 Jan 2020 17:41

This is a bad idea. There can be some reservation in UT govt jobs and restrictions in construction in ecologically sensitive areas. Rest should be similar to all other states e.g. restricting education to domiciles only is regressive.

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The Centre is all set to provide protection to domiciles of Jammu and Kashmir in government jobs, educational institutions and land rights, a senior government official said on Friday.

The Centre is exploring the option of implementing the mandatory requirement of continuous stay in the region for a minimum of 15 years before applying for a job in government sector and admissions in schools and colleges in the Union Territory of J&K.


So they dont want others from Rest of India to come and settle ? Whats the point of removing Article 370 then if its not taken to its logical conclusion ?

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LeT millitant arrested in Srinagar
A Lashkar-e-Taiba millitant was arrested from a hospital here on Saturday, police said.

Nisar Ahmad Dar, a resident of the Hajin area of Bandipore district in north Kashmir, was arrested by the Special Operations Group of the Jammu and Kashmir Police from Shri Maharaja Hari Singh Hospital in the city, a police official said.


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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby ritesh » 05 Jan 2020 23:24

Supratik wrote:This is a bad idea. There can be some reservation in UT govt jobs and restrictions in construction in ecologically sensitive areas. Rest should be similar to all other states e.g. restricting education to domiciles only is regressive.

This concern was also raised earlier by Shri Sushil Pandit that it is akin to taking 1 step forward and 2 back. These kinds of flip flops only raise morale of the moslems which will or can have repercussions else where as well.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby RKumar » 06 Jan 2020 23:24



I think it is again a planted story, there shouldn’t be any such restriction in place.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 10 Jan 2020 12:11

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 183007.cms
How is internet fundamental right???
What of pre-STD and Mobile phone days??
I sometimes wonder what get into 'Hizzz Honours'
Now all that it take for Leftist/Jihadi/Paki combine to go to town with denial of basic rights!!

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sachin » 10 Jan 2020 12:34

^^ The Supreme Court verdict is just about asking GoI to "review" the restrictions in J&K in one week's time. GoI can do this "review" and still say after that they find merit to retain these restrictions. Supreme Court has NOT asked any order/circular to be withdrawn or anulled any laws/acts related to converting J&K from a state to UT. So by all practical means; Jammu and Kashmir state has become Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh Union Territories. Abdullahs, Muftis et. al will have to now seek alternate employement.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vikas » 10 Jan 2020 15:48

I believe With passage of time, access to telecom services will become basic human rights even if you are dying because of pollution and corruption.


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