J&K Union Territory-2019

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Yagnasri » 25 Mar 2020 10:20

First they have to do is to transfer the staff of the UT to other UTs immediately and transfer staff from other UTs to J&K. No special rights of any kinds shall be given. Not even the kind given to other Hill States. The people of other Hill states are very loyal to the nation and give special rights to protect their identity and culture. That is not the case with J&K.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vips » 25 Mar 2020 17:35

The entitled bunch have started demanding restoration of statehood to Kashmir. They want this to be done pronto as they want to gain control of the state finances to start the looting and also control the home ministry to enable the militants/separatists and havala operators which has been brought under control due to UT status.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Yagnasri » 25 Mar 2020 22:57

Statehood is not going to happen anytime soon. Just promose of doing it in future.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby g.sarkar » 28 Mar 2020 03:17

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While world battles coronavirus, Pakistan busy violating ceasefire in Jammu and Kashmir
Pakistan violated the ceasefire agreement yet again on Thursday while the rest of the world is busy battling the deadly coronavirus contagion. Indian troops said they retaliated to Pakistani firing at the Line of Control in north Kashmir’s Uri sector on Thursday afternoon.
Locals said the firing went on for a couple of hours in the afternoon and damaged a house which was hit by a shell fired by the Pakistani side, however, no loss of life was reported.
The Indian Army blamed Pakistan for the ceasefire violation and said the Indian forces manning the LoC retaliated to Pakistani firing.
The locals claimed that several mortar shells landed in the villages of Mothal, Silikote, Hatlthanga and Churunda, all located on the zero line.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Mollick.R » 01 Apr 2020 14:03

Amit Shah reworks Kashmir’s domicile law, includes residents for 15 yrs
INDIA Updated: Apr 01, 2020 13:27 IST

Home Minister Amit Shah had assured a delegation of Kashmiri leaders last month that the apprehensions about the union territory’s demographic changes were baseless

Nearly eight months after the Centre scrapped Jammu and Kashmir’s special status, the government has redefined domicile rules for the union territory and ordered that only people who fulfill this criteria are eligible to be appointed to junior posts in the bureaucracy and the constabulary.

The new domicile condition in the recruitment law is designed to address concerns that the union territory status for Jammu and Kashmir would lead to demographic changes since people from any part of the country could apply for jobs and settle in J&K.

Before Parliament scrapped Article 370, only people considered permanent residents of the erstwhile state could get jobs in the state government. When a delegation of Kashmiri politicians met Home Minister Amit Shah last month, he had assured them that the Centre did not intend to carry out demographic changes in the union territory.

Shah had also promised that the new domicile rule for J&K would be better than any other state.

The domicile rule would apply for recruitment to all posts that come with a basic salary of Rs 25,500.

According to Tuesday evening’s notification by the home ministry, any person who has stayed in J&K for 15 years or has studied for a period of seven years and appeared in Class 10th/12th examination will be deemed as domicile.

The government order said children of central government officials, All India Services, officials of Public Sector Undertakings and autonomous bodies of central government, public sector banks, officials of statutory bodies, officials of central universities and recognized research institutes of central government who have served in Jammu and Kashmir for a total period of 10 years will also be considered to be domiciled in the union territory.

Children of residents of Union territory of Jammu and Kashmir who reside outside the union territory in connection with their employment, business or other professional or vocational reasons will also be treated to be domiciled in the UT if their parents fulfil the eligibility criteria to get a domicile certificate.



https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/amit-shah-reworks-kashmir-s-domicile-law-includes-residents-for-15-yrs/story-HI3tqta82f2rbXDSGDYynL.html

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vips » 01 Apr 2020 17:35

Brat starts rona-dhona as his entitled right to lord over will be diluted through this law.

National conference leader Omar Abdullah on Monday denounced the Centre’s move to rework the domicile laws in the union territory of Jammu and Kashmir at a time when the nation is pooling all resources to stave off the coronavirus pandemic.

The leader, who was until recently in detention, questioned the timing of the move as the entire nation is under lockdown to halt the spread of the Sars-Cov-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. He called the law “hollow” and said it does not offer the protections that it had promised.

According to the change in laws, anyone who has resided for 15 years in Jammu and Kashmir or has studied for seven years and appeared in Class 10 and Class 12 examinations in an educational institution located in the union territory is a domicile. Also, those registered as a migrant by the Relief and Rehabilitation Commissioner (Migrants) will also be deemed to be a domicile.

“Talk about suspect timing. At a time when all our efforts & attention should be focused on the #COVID outbreak the government slips in a new domicile law for J&K. Insult is heaped on injury when we see the law offers none of the protections that had been promised,” tweeted the former chief minister.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby KL Dubey » 01 Apr 2020 18:24

Vips wrote:Brat starts rona-dhona as his entitled right to lord over will be diluted through this law.


He has absolutely no rights to "lord over" anymore, so the question of dilution does not arise.

A simple 15 years residence requirement (or 7 years study and 10/12 exams) means quite a lot of kashmiri hindus will now be eligible to return to the UT and work there if they wanna. I am guessing that recruitment will naturally favor them because they have been doing useful things in the meantime unlike the stone-pelting peacefools.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vips » 01 Apr 2020 18:27

I should have phrased it as : Brat starts rona-dhona as he thinks his entitled right to lord over will be diluted through this law.

Brat and others of his ilk know that they can only come to power through rigged elections where peacefools are a majority. Any law that allows Hindus/Buddhists and others to regain their old/new domicile or even in many many cases get their rightful domicile which was denied earlier is one more nail in their coffin.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Ashokk » 02 Apr 2020 22:15

Ex-J&K CMs stripped of all privileges
SRINAGAR: In a major setback to surviving former chief ministers of the erstwhile state of J&K, who held the post after 1984, the Centre on Tuesday evening stripped them of lifetime privileges like rent-free accommodation, free medical care, pension, Z-plus security for them and their families, and other facilities, including one personnel assistant, one special assistant and two peons. The former CMs who will be affected by this development are Farooq Abdullah, his son Omar Abdullah, Mehbooba Mufti and Ghulam Nabi Azad.
When Farooq was CM in 1996, he had amended the State Legislature Members’ Pension Act, 1984, to add Section 3C, allowing former CMs to enjoy these privileges and benefits.

Barring Farooq and Azad, the other two ex-CMs retain their rent-free government bungalows in Srinagar’s Gupkar Road neighbourhood. While Farooq lives in his private house in Gupkar Road, senior Congress functionary Azad, whenever in Srinagar, stays at his Hyderpora residence. However, they used to enjoy all other benefits of being ex-CMs. While Farooq is the sitting MP from Srinagar, Azad is the leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha.
The other two ex-CMs, Omar and Mehbooba, have been clinging on to their official residences in Srinagar despite having their private houses here. While Omar has his father’s house just a few houses away from his official residence, Mehbooba has her house at Nowgam in Srinagar.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sachin » 03 Apr 2020 16:21

Jammu BJP raises concerns over new J&K domicile rule with national leadership, Amit Shah
From the report "BJP worried and upset, as it not only loosens the criteria of who can claim domicile but only keeps lower level jobs reserved for locals with higher level jobs open for all" .
Is the BJP J&K unit expecting the old Kashmiriyat and other gimmicks minus the Islamic terrorism? In that case perhaps they need to be shown the right way? That they are no different from rest of India.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby RKumar » 04 Apr 2020 15:18

I was expecting Home Ministry giving in to Peacefuls on domicile subject and here we go. Bloody 15 years to get domicile when someone can get Indian citizenship after 8-10 years.

Additionally, abolishing 2 day old order of job protection for only class 4. Now all jobs are reserved for JK domiciles. WHAT the hell - they are again creating problems for future and letting them think they are special. It was the right time to tell them - all Indians are equal.

I don’t understand, why this continuous appeasement policy. Any thoughts? Why HM paddles back?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sachin » 04 Apr 2020 19:40

RKumar wrote:I don’t understand, why this continuous appeasement policy. Any thoughts? Why HM paddles back?

See my last post (one post above yours). The Jammu BJP unit itself had met Amit Shah asking for changes in the domicile law. Which sadly means that; cutting across religion folks in J&K want some kind of preferential treatment. From what I understand, such a mentality - that they are special and want special privileges existed for quite some time. Even the Pandits demanded it. But when the jehadis took it to the next level (i.e the Kashmiri Muslims are super special) that they started complaining.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby RKumar » 05 Apr 2020 01:19

Time and again, The Hindus are the biggest enemies of the Hindus. Amit Shah ji, should have looked at the bigger picture than hearing the feedback of such idiots. The message should be clear - All Indians are equal and bring Unified Civil Code at the earliest.

But if an order can be revoked and I can't find a reason why it can't be dropped altogether? Otherwise, we encourage them to cry louder and shriller next time. And I hope no free money is distributed to anyone there, let them work and earn their bread n butter.


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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby KL Dubey » 06 Apr 2020 01:02

Sachin wrote:
RKumar wrote:I don’t understand, why this continuous appeasement policy. Any thoughts? Why HM paddles back?

See my last post (one post above yours). The Jammu BJP unit itself had met Amit Shah asking for changes in the domicile law. Which sadly means that; cutting across religion folks in J&K want some kind of preferential treatment. From what I understand, such a mentality - that they are special and want special privileges existed for quite some time. Even the Pandits demanded it. But when the jehadis took it to the next level (i.e the Kashmiri Muslims are super special) that they started complaining.


I don't know why people are having these knee jerk reactions. I think the J&K domicile law is a good one.

Note that the domicile definition and the government jobs are two different things though related.

1) Regarding goremint jobs: Nothing wrong with reserving them for domiciled persons (at least for now). The children of employees of Central government institutions, all-India services, public sector undertakings, public sector banks, statutory bodies, Central universities and recognised research institutes of the Central government who have served in Jammu and Kashmir for 10 years will also be eligible.

That's a lot of people...the "locals" will still have a lot of competition for a small number of jobs. Note that goremint jobs are only a small fraction of the total employment. And military jobs are not covered under this law either.

2) Regarding domicile: 15 years is fine, especially with other provisions and exemptions for people who have studied in the state. Many states have the same or stricter requirement. I just looked up a few...MH, UK, HP, SK all require 15 years. AS requires 20 years.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Kakkaji » 06 Apr 2020 02:33

Also, all the descendents of refugees from PoK that came in 1947, will qualify as domicile, under the rules just announced. KPs who left the state in 1990, and their descendents should also qualify under the new rules.

Not to forget - Are women who grew up in J&K but married outside the state, now covered under the domicile definition?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rishirishi » 06 Apr 2020 03:51

RKumar wrote:I was expecting Home Ministry giving in to Peacefuls on domicile subject and here we go. Bloody 15 years to get domicile when someone can get Indian citizenship after 8-10 years.

Additionally, abolishing 2 day old order of job protection for only class 4. Now all jobs are reserved for JK domiciles. WHAT the hell - they are again creating problems for future and letting them think they are special. It was the right time to tell them - all Indians are equal.

I don’t understand, why this continuous appeasement policy. Any thoughts? Why HM paddles back?


Perhaps the local BJP understands the ground dynamics better. Don't think that people like Amit Shah is in the business of apeasement. There may be logics we do not have insight into.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Ambar » 06 Apr 2020 04:04

There are local political compulsions that needs to be considered. Maharashtra for example has a 15 year residency requirement to be considered as a state domicile, Karnataka has one of the most liberal where one only needs to live for 6 years to be considered as a state domicile.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 06 Apr 2020 11:54

in the meanwhile, back at the ranch........


from swarajya magazine


Social Distancing, Indian Army Style: Nine Terrorists Eliminated In Kashmir Valley In Last 24 Hours

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Aditya_V » 06 Apr 2020 12:01

chetak wrote:in the meanwhile, back at the ranch........


from swarajya magazine


Social Distancing, Indian Army Style: Nine Terrorists Eliminated In Kashmir Valley In Last 24 Hours


Is this separate from the BAT encounter near the LOC?


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