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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby vijayk » 03 Sep 2020 22:57


Pak's Big Fail, Kashmir Closure At UN | Time To Isolate China At UNSC | NewsX

India files resolution in UNSC to declare Kashmir as old issue

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Postby partha » 04 Sep 2020 13:26

jamwal wrote:
CRamS wrote:Has anyone noticed but Mehboob'as daughter Eltija Mftu is much sought after on many a libarandu and Islamist TV hosts on India media. And true to form, she paints a dystopian view saying valley will erupt any moment. I wounder if she is sought after by white media also. And the interesting thing is that like CAA protesters, she uses the language of 'democracy', 'constitution' to spread her BIF poison. And true form, chutiyas like Turdesai who interviewed her will never ask her some straight questions like why is there so much communally-inspired separatism,support to Paki terror, the silent support her mother and others have given to Paki agenda; all necessitating that they be locked up during sensitive timers should they rabble rouse and create hara kiri.,



She has two daughters. One lives with Mehbooba's estranged husband and other with her. First one is in IFS. Both can be safely assumed to be rabid jihadins like their mother

Hmm..


Interesting fellow. Notice his Hindi vocab too. The daughter raised by him may not be a rabid jihadi.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby jamwal » 05 Sep 2020 14:17

Everyone has a different face in public

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Postby CRamS » 07 Sep 2020 00:15

Guys, I have been watching a Bollywood web series. Much better than the movies. My wife just started watching Avrodh something to do with J&K and TSP. Before I do my own research on this, just wanted to check if anybody here has seen that web series and is it worth my time? I don't want to watch some politically correct crap.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby schinnas » 07 Sep 2020 23:00

Watch it. Many scenes and overall story are based on true incidents behind post URI surgical strikes with some artistic liberty. One or two characters may be fictional to add masala. Well made series.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby nachiket » 08 Sep 2020 02:19

Avrodh is based on the account of Surgical Strikes from Shiv Aroor and Rahul Singh's book India's Most Fearless. If you liked the book, you will like the series as well.

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Postby CRamS » 08 Sep 2020 02:58

Schinnas/Nachiket, watched about 4 episodes so far. Not too bad, but couple of comments because what was depicted is something that we, at least I gnaw my teeth on most of time, especially the discourse after 26/11.

This is the period after 4 Pakis managed to enter such a high security military base and took out so many of our guys. All when depicted: the treachery of the local KM who was trusted by us to work in the base, the evil of Pakis, and of course the tragedy.

After all this, the only thing that should be on the minds of politicians is how to extract revenge. Most of that also was depicted well. ModiJi was depicted as measured but resolute.

But then the usual crap. Sushma Swaraj was shown as castigating the NSA and others for wanting to taking revenge because that would 'damage our relations with other countries" or "international community opinion" etc.

Give me a f!king break. Did the same international community give a fig leaf when we were attacked? Do they give a crap about our response or lack thereof? I recall, US anal-ysts at the time were saying Uri (as also countless other attacks like Pulwama) was not a terrorist attack because it was an attack on the army. And the right response for India is p!ss talks with TSP under US mediation. And we have our foreign minister talking about 'damaging or relations'. At least, during UPA, this crappy line of reasoning was used as excuse for doing nothing.

The other thing well depicted is the role of media. At least so far, there is one hot chic who plays the role of a reporter, in western designer clothes, living the modern life with a BF and such, and with no sense of national interests. Reminds me of Burka bibi types except that the female in the show is a heck a lot more good looking than Burka :-).

Anyway, will continue watching.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sumeet » 08 Sep 2020 11:24

@CRamS, Where are you watching Avrodh in US ?

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Postby CRamS » 09 Sep 2020 06:58

Sumeet, my wife tells me that it comes on Sony Live via Sling TV (https://www.sling.com/)

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Sumeet » 11 Sep 2020 02:15

Thanks man.

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Postby darshan » 11 Sep 2020 07:11

Nazism in Kashmir? How a liberal dehumanizes “Bihari beggars”
https://www.opindia.com/2020/09/khaleel ... ar-nazism/
Picture this. Someone is driving down the roads of an Indian city. The car slows down in traffic or has to stop at a signal. Through the glass, the driver sees a poor man on the street, selling little bits of colored paper and other knick-knacks. He realizes the man is from a different religion. He clicks a photo. The photo starts doing the rounds on social media, with a warning that the outsiders are coming to take your land!

That’s Nazism 101. That’s the kind of mentality that starts genocide as in Rwanda.

It’s happening in liberal circles in India right now. See this thread, which is currently gathering hundreds of retweets on the liberal side of Indian Twitter.

Kashmiri Muslim ‘afraid’ on seeing man in saffron scarf

This is Indian secularism and liberalism today. Peek out of your car, see a poor street hawker and then go on a hate rant dehumanizing him for belonging to a different religion.

The Twitter handle appears to belong to one Khaleel Tickoo, who claims to be an accountant and passionate human rights advocate.

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Postby darshan » 14 Sep 2020 01:10

J-K: Restoration of centuries-old Raghunath Temple in Srinagar begins almost 3 decades after terrorists vandalised and burnt it down
https://www.opindia.com/2020/09/restora ... -30-years/
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The historic temple which was one of the most revered by Hindus was vandalised and burnt down by Islamic terrorists in the early 1990s- the time when the valley witnessed mass genocide and exodus of Kashmiri Hindus at the hands of the blood-thirsty Islamic terrorists who were ready to do anything to convert Kashmir into an Islamic state.

In the early 1990s, the terrorists had initially burnt a school which was located on the premises of the temple. This had led to the Dharamshala of the temple being gutted in the fire. The Hindus were forbidden by Islamists from worshipping in the temple. However, when the devotees refused to stop visiting the temple, the entire temple premise was set on fire and destroyed.
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Postby Dilbu » 15 Sep 2020 20:47

India walks out of SCO meet of NSAs over fictitious Pak map, says it violates norms
India on Tuesday walked out of a virtual meeting of national security advisers of member states of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) after the Pakistani representative projected a map that inaccurately depicted the borders of the two countries.

“At the meeting of the national security advisers (NSAs) of member states of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), hosted by the chair of the SCO (Russia), the Pakistani NSA deliberately projected a fictitious map that Pakistan has recently been propagating,” said external affairs ministry spokesperson Anurag Srivastava.

“This was in blatant disregard to the advisory by the host against it and in violation of the norms of the meeting. After consultation with the host, the Indian side left the meeting in protest at that juncture,” he said.

“India issued its strong objection to the use of this illegal map by Pakistan. The Russian side, as the chair, tried very hard to persuade Pakistan not to do so,” said one of the people cited above.

Russian NSA Nikolai Patrushev conveyed to the Indian side that he was personally very grateful to his Indian counterpart Ajit Doval for attending the SCO Summit, the people said.

“Russia doesn’t support what Pakistan has done and hopes Pakistan’s provocative act won’t affect India’s participation in SCO and definitely not cast any shadow on Patrushev’s warm personal relationship with the Indian NSA, for whom he has the highest regard,” the person added.

Patrushev also said he hoped to see Doval at forthcoming events, according to the people.

Pakistan issued a new map on August 4 that laid claim to India’s union territories of Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh and parts of Gujarat state on the eve of the first anniversary of the scrapping of Jammu and Kashmir’s special status.

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Postby KJo » 15 Sep 2020 21:00

Instead of walking out and letting Pak take the stage, our guys should have created a ruckus and gotten Pak to withdraw the map from the event. I think that would show our influence more than a Gandhian walkout.

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Postby g.sarkar » 23 Sep 2020 02:59

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/ls-p ... 200922.htm
LS passes Jammu and Kashmir Official Languages Bill
Source: PTI-Edited By: Utkarsh Mishra, September 22, 2020

Introducing the Jammu and Kashmir Official Languages Bill, 2020, Minister of State for Home G Kishan Reddy said it was a demand of the people of Jammu and Kashmir that the language they speak should be the official language.
The minister pointed out that 53.26 per cent of the population of Jammu and Kashmir speaks Kashmiri language.
Reddy said 26.64 per cent of the population of the UT speaks Dogri while Urdu, which is currently its official language, is spoken only by 0.16 per cent population there.
Still for the last 70 years, Urdu continues to be the official language of Jammu and Kashmir, he said, adding that 2.36 per cent population in the UT speaks Hindi.
Opposing the bill, Hasnain Masoodi (National Conference) said the central government does not have the legislative competence to frame a bill in this regard.
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Postby idan » 23 Sep 2020 03:48

CRamS wrote:Schinnas/Nachiket, watched about 4 episodes so far. Not too bad, but couple of comments because what was depicted is something that we, at least I gnaw my teeth on most of time, especially the discourse after 26/11.

This is the period after 4 Pakis managed to enter such a high security military base and took out so many of our guys. All when depicted: the treachery of the local KM who was trusted by us to work in the base, the evil of Pakis, and of course the tragedy.

After all this, the only thing that should be on the minds of politicians is how to extract revenge. Most of that also was depicted well. ModiJi was depicted as measured but resolute.

But then the usual crap. Sushma Swaraj was shown as castigating the NSA and others for wanting to taking revenge because that would 'damage our relations with other countries" or "international community opinion" etc.

Give me a f!king break. Did the same international community give a fig leaf when we were attacked? Do they give a crap about our response or lack thereof? I recall, US anal-ysts at the time were saying Uri (as also countless other attacks like Pulwama) was not a terrorist attack because it was an attack on the army. And the right response for India is p!ss talks with TSP under US mediation. And we have our foreign minister talking about 'damaging or relations'. At least, during UPA, this crappy line of reasoning was used as excuse for doing nothing.

The other thing well depicted is the role of media. At least so far, there is one hot chic who plays the role of a reporter, in western designer clothes, living the modern life with a BF and such, and with no sense of national interests. Reminds me of Burka bibi types except that the female in the show is a heck a lot more good looking than Burka :-).

Anyway, will continue watching.


I found it pretty drab show. Look and feel is 80s Bollywood style. The props, guns, costumes, action sequences etc are clearly not up to the mark. The director should learn watching web series like Fauda how to give a realistic look and feel of military operations.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby rpartha » 24 Sep 2020 10:34

How do we send him to Uighur camp?

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/kashmi ... 286995.cms


Farooq Abdullah says that Kashmiris would prefer China to India as they dont feel they are Indians...

Is there a way we can push Uighur video en masse to Kashmir and to others?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby darshan » 25 Sep 2020 06:12

#islam

Kashmir High Court lawyer Babar Qadri shot dead by terrorists in Srinagar days after Islamists accused him of working for agencies
https://www.opindia.com/2020/09/kashmir ... -srinagar/

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Postby williams » 25 Sep 2020 07:00

rpartha wrote:How do we send him to Uighur camp?

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/kashmi ... 286995.cms


Farooq Abdullah says that Kashmiris would prefer China to India as they dont feel they are Indians...

Is there a way we can push Uighur video en masse to Kashmir and to others?


Based on this guy's statement :rotfl: He is a defanged snake just let him indulge in such seditious behavior and become a public clown. As and when NIA finds a skeleton drag him down the streets.

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Postby sanjaykumar » 25 Sep 2020 07:11

Ain’t nothing preventing them from emigrating to Pakistan or China. India might even be persuaded to subsidise donkey cart fares.

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Postby rpartha » 25 Sep 2020 16:49

Agree... point is we should show no mercy... they have taken us for a ride... I feel more Kashmiris and people of GB will prefer India when they are shown videos of atrocities in Uighur...

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Postby Rsatchi » 25 Sep 2020 17:05

sanjaykumar wrote:Ain’t nothing preventing them from emigrating to Pakistan or China. India might even be persuaded to subsidise donkey cart fares.

Great ways to get rid of both the donkeys onlee!! :lol: :lol:
Panda will eat the four-legged one! and put the two-legged one into a labour camp!! :D
Win win situation onleee :rotfl:

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Postby Rsatchi » 25 Sep 2020 22:49

rpartha wrote:How do we send him to Uighur camp?

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/kashmi ... 286995.cms


Farooq Abdullah says that Kashmiris would prefer China to India as they dont feel they are Indians...

Is there a way we can push Uighur video en masse to Kashmir and to others?

And now this news :
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/chinese ... -topscroll
Have Abdullahs and Muftis sold themselves to Lizard!!!
And that ICCB Einar something who bats for Chini kept repeating 370 on Shiv Aroor shows
Ladakh incursions!!
All shows Chin insecurity as well Napak.
Is this more of not to loose Gilgit and less to do with Aksai Chin??? :shock:

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Postby Vips » 26 Sep 2020 03:44

Farooq Adullah is free to migrate to Xinjiang. The chinese will treat him like a pet pig and make him a wooden club equipped warden of the jail where the Muslims of Xinjiang are 're-educated' to be a good and loyal chinese and if he tries to be too smart and shows his malsic and duplicitious character he will be quickly administered a few whacks from his own club.

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Postby sanjaykumar » 26 Sep 2020 05:05

Rest assured, they already know that. They also know many Hindus/Sikhs believe they got the short end of the stick in 1947.

There is no need to rub it in. Not rubbing it in infuriates them. Not treating them like the minorities in Pakistan and Arabia infuriates them. It’s the cognitive dissonance of what is expected of the kafir and the jizya and swab culture.

Pandora’s box is meant to be eventually opened.

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Postby yensoy » 26 Sep 2020 07:45

darshan wrote:The Twitter handle appears to belong to one Khaleel Tickoo, who claims to be an accountant and passionate human rights advocate.

SInce Khaleel "Tickoo" is of brahmin heritage, and it's possible that the poor Bihari is a lower caste, the entire untouchability law/hate crime law should be thrown on him. Let's give it a twist. Let him disavow his roots and let us remind him who he is and what privilege he enjoys.

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Postby rpartha » 26 Sep 2020 12:19

Vips wrote:Farooq Adullah is free to migrate to Xinjiang. The chinese will treat him like a pet pig and make him a wooden club equipped warden of the jail where the Muslims of Xinjiang are 're-educated' to be a good and loyal chinese and if he tries to be too smart and shows his malsic and duplicitious character he will be quickly administered a few whacks from his own club.


:wink: these are symptoms... need to address the problem... how do we make sure Kashmiris are being taken for a ride by Pak-China? Is Govt doing anything in Kashmir to educate the muslims how Pak is keeping quiet on Uighurs where muslims are being persecuted... ??

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Postby Vips » 26 Sep 2020 17:55

rpartha wrote:
Vips wrote:Farooq Adullah is free to migrate to Xinjiang. The chinese will treat him like a pet pig and make him a wooden club equipped warden of the jail where the Muslims of Xinjiang are 're-educated' to be a good and loyal chinese and if he tries to be too smart and shows his malsic and duplicitious character he will be quickly administered a few whacks from his own club.


:wink: these are symptoms... need to address the problem... how do we make sure Kashmiris are being taken for a ride by Pak-China? Is Govt doing anything in Kashmir to educate the muslims how Pak is keeping quiet on Uighurs where muslims are being persecuted... ??


You think the kashmiri's do not know what is happening in Xinjiang? They have access to all the news channels, newspapers and Internet. You think they do not know how the Porkis are treating the Kashmiris and Hazara's living in POK and Pakistan occupied Gilgit Baltistan?

No matter how much you try to educate ALWAYS REMEMBER for each and every Muslim kashmiri it will always be us vs the kafirs.

There is no solution to this other then the forceful imposition of the Writ of India and a reminder every day to them that Kashmir belongs to India and this land was forcefully usurped from the Pandits who are the original residents of this place.
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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 26 Sep 2020 18:07

Vips wrote:
rpartha wrote:
:wink: these are symptoms... need to address the problem... how do we make sure Kashmiris are being taken for a ride by Pak-China? Is Govt doing anything in Kashmir to educate the muslims how Pak is keeping quiet on Uighurs where muslims are being persecuted... ??


You think the kashmiri's do not know what is happening in Xinjiang? They have access to all the news channels, newspapers and Internet. You think they do not know how the Porkis are treating the Kashmiris and Hazara's living in POK and Pakistan occupied Gilgit Baltistan?

No matter how much you try to educate ALWAYS REMEMBER for each and every Muslim kashmiri it will always be us vs the kafirs.

There is no solution to this other then the forceful imposition of the Writ of India and a reminder every day to them that Kashmir belongs to India and this land was forcefully usurped from the Pandits who are the original residents of this place.


with the delimitation of seats, the gaddars like the abdullahs and the muftis et al are truly done for.

the primacy, the political hegemony and myth of the small number of "valley" sunnis grandstanding in the cashmeri valley and pushing the paki terrorist agenda as though they were the sole voice and represented the entirety cashmeri state as well is now unequivocally done and dusted

they have all been politically neutered and their earlier ability to steal with impunity and personally pocket huge central govt funds has evaporated as their complete irrelevance stares them starkly in their panicked faces.

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Postby pankajs » 28 Sep 2020 00:18

Don't know if this is true .. FWIW

https://twitter.com/saisrini129/status/ ... 0199162881
*DID ANYONE NOTICE THE EIGHT BIG STEPS TAKEN IN 10 DAYS BY THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS IN J&K ?*

1. 5 Lakh Hindu-Sikh Families Became Jammu & Kashmir Domiciles.

2. All Perks/Facilities Withdrawn From Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba.
3. Kashmir Lost Control Over All Universities Including Jammu & Kashmir National Law University.

4. Kashmir Lost Control Over Hindu Shrines.

5. Competent Authority Empowered To Take Suo Moto Notice And Evict Encroachers From Properties Hindus Left Behind In Kashmir In 1990.
6. Kashmir Lost Control Over All Golf And Other Clubs In J&K.

7. Role Of Kashmir (CM) In University Affairs Reduced To Zero.

8. Legal Protection Granted To Anti-Nationals In J&K 42 Years Ago revoked
Now, Those Facing Public Safety Act, 1978, Can Be Put In Any Jail Outside J&K.
9. No Secretariat Move for Now From Jammu To Kashmir Or Secretariat Will Continue To Function In Jammu.

Some more additions :
2. All facilities withdrawn from all ex CM’s including Farooq, Omar, Azad, Mehbooba including accommodation and vehicles.
3.All Universities now directly controlled by New Delhi & curriculum in these universities to be modified away from being Kashmir centric.
4.Hindu shrines were always controlled by the Dharmath Trust or respective Shrine Boards. Now these boards report directly to Home Ministry.
But that is not all. Now even J&K Waqf Board (Auqaf) has been taken over by New Delhi & all its assets, which till now were created by contributors and niyaz from Kashmiri Muslims, have been taken over by New Delhi and will be controlled by them.
6. New Delhi has empowered local
administration to evict locals from properties they might have purchased from Pandits. Sale deeds could be nullified.
6. Not only golf courses but all forest lands and tourist development authorities are now directly controlled by New Delhi.They can issue, allot,lease or provide
prime land and facilities to anybody from India now.
8. J&K CM has been reduced to number 15 on the Warrant of Precedence from earlier 7. All nominations of J&K CM from Universory boards or Waqf boards has been removed.
9. All Kashmiri IAS officers have been posted in less
important positions, while non local officials are running the administration from Jammu.
10. Land banks of thousands of kanals have been indefinite and earmarked in different districts of Kashmir to be allotted to non state subjects in the name of ‘investment and industry’.


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