Terroristan - November 11, 2019

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One thing that has surprised me is there has no major Pak driven attack in in the past year. They had 370 & CAA issue as the excuse, yet nothing major yet.

There must be something in the pipeline...
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Their pipeline gets busted everytime, our agencies are doing a good job.
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The surgical strike and balakot air strikes have dented their appetite for a big one. They do keep trying including inciting Delhi riots and anti CAA riots and trying to paint a negative portrayal of Hindutva and Modiji and BJP all over the world to the level it is considered as a defact truth by ignorant Westerners.
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Pakistan’s education ‘reforms’ are privileging the madrassa system.
In July, Pakistan saw another so-called reform in education. The government of Imran Khan decided to conclude its “unification” of the three “systems” of education (Urdu medium schools, English medium schools and the madrassa) predictably imposing more of the madrassa on the other two streams. It announced an Islamic course at the Master’s level.(AOA)
When a Pakistani educationist sits down to frame textbook content, he is scared of the “critical” trait of the human mind. His objective is to prevent the student from applying a “critical” yardstick while analysing “ideology” (Do not think just press that button under your jacket)
In the case of Pakistan, there is little money left after “fighting” or “preparing” for wars and there is simply no money left in the kitty for education after meeting the expenditure on the armed forces. (what is the need for education - Eat grass and become a hafiz in the madrassa is enough to go to the 72 Hoors)
Teachers too are a problem. Most of the primary school teachers in Pakistan are madrassa graduates who have acquired knowledge that equips them for no secular profession. Children in most state-funded schools get poor training in math and history as fact-based narrative. The state sector education mostly relies on brainwash as teaching methodology. (Pakistan is working as per its natural potential)
It is curious that English and its “logical-sequential” discourse should disturb Imran Khan, who frequently lambasts modern “liberal” Pakistanis. His clubbing together of the three systems of education in Pakistan and squeezing “one system” out of them is typical of the Muslim educationist who is scared of English as a purveyor of rational thought.(Did not Bushra Bibi declare that Imran Khan will be great for Pakistan and lead it to greater heights?)
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Pak-India education compared.

Pervez Hoodbhoy who was the first victim of the education policy of pakistan still cant get over his anti-india prejudices, desperately tries to do a equal-equal between India and Pakistan and claims that the Indian New Education policy is worse then the fundamentalist religious inspired education policy of Pakistan.

He has seen the writing on the wall on how Indians have been thought overly senitised and manipulated history through its books.

Look at some of the gems of this "western educated rational thinking pakistani" (An Oxymoron)
Will history be dispassionately presented as a series of invasions which, layer by layer, built Indian culture over the millennia? Or are Muslims merely wicked temple-destroyers who shattered the seraphic heaven of Mother India?
Yeah right look at the logic temple that were destroyed just happened by accident they should be viewed 'dispassionately'. What culture did the invaders build? The culture that existed In India is thousands of years old which was only b a s t a r d i z e d by the invaders (Ganaga Jamini tehzeeb)
In spite of 30 languages, 130 dialects, and well over a dozen faiths, India took barely 50 years to create a national identity after Jawaharlal Nehru set it on a secular track. Most Muslims, Sikhs and Christians were then proud to declare themselves Indian. But, as Indian secularism retreats, this is now disappearing.
India is secular not because of Jawaharlal Nehru's criminal act of manipulating history that is taught in Indian books but because the majority of population which is dharmic has been accomadative of the the people from other faiths and helping them survive when they were prosecuted by the islamic demons in their homeland.
One worries because in BJP-ruled states, leaders have demanded removal of references to Mughal emperors Akbar and Aurangzeb to make space for Hindu kings like Maharana Pratap and Shivaji.
Look at his mind set he wants India to continue having public places named after mass murderers and ignore its own hero's who rose against them to stop the invaders and subsequent attacks on places of indigenous culture and religion.
Although Sanskrit is a culturally dead language, NEP calls it the fount of all sacred and secular knowledge. Urdu, on the other hand, although spoken by tens of millions of Indians and once the language of the Bombay film industry, is absent from a list that includes Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam, Odia, Pali, Persian, and Prakrit.
Look at his propoganda - Urdu is in its purest form is no more spoken by 'tens of millions'. What is spoken is a mixture of Hindi and Urdu even by muslims in UP/Awadh and also by Bollywood. Indeed why should a b a s t a r d i z e d language from Persia be included in a list that comprises all native Indian languages? If you see thorugh the haze the main angst of this western educated anti-hindu Porki is that Sanskrit will be culturally revived.
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nam wrote:One thing that has surprised me is there has no major Pak driven attack in in the past year. They had 370 & CAA issue as the excuse, yet nothing major yet.

There must be something in the pipeline...
Peace just means efficient neutralization of threats esp in the hot spot that India is in ., nothing happening says a LOT !
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India establishing new deadlines and showing a willingness to escalate has certainly made TSP reevaluate its dirty strategy of terror. Truth being that Pakistan has absolutely zero capacity to sustain a war beyond 3 days and the option to go nuclear is easy easier said than done.

Next step for us is to build and demonstrate the capacity to demolish their war fighting ability, without the need to step out of our border.
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India needs to open debates in parliament and then internationally about what happened to non muslim population over generations.
Married Hindu woman abducted, forcibly converted to Islam and married by her abductor in Pakistan: Watch video
https://www.opindia.com/2020/08/pakista ... fuse-help/
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1st Test: Woakes and Buttler propel England to unlikely win over Pakistan
Reuters | Aug 8, 2020, 23:13 IST

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spo ... 437523.cms

:wink: :D :D
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Pakistan to create a parallel org to OIC, ya allah may this happen right away, anyways they could get camels if there is no Oil
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suryag wrote:Pakistan to create a parallel org to OIC, ya allah may this happen right away, anyways they could get camels if there is no Oil
Saudi Arabia defers to renew pact to supply oil to Pakistan on deferred payments
World’s biggest oil producer and exporter Saudi Arabia is yet to renew an agreement with Pakistan that allows oil supplies on deferred payments after that pact expired two months back.

An agreement between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia for provision of $3.2 billion worth of oil on deferred payments per annum has expired two months ago and decision about its renewal remains pending with Riyadh, according to leading Pak daily The Express Tribune.

The $3.2 billion Saudi oil facility was part of the $6.2-billion Saudi Arabian package announced in November 2018 to ease Pakistan’s external sector woes.

Pakistan has already prematurely returned $1 billion Saudi loan - four months ahead of its repayment period.{By borrowing from China} Pakistan could also return $2 billion remaining Saudi cash loan, subject to availability of similar facility from China.

The agreement over $3 billion cash support and $3.2 billion oil facility per annum had the provision of renewal for two more years…Saudi Arabia has not provided the oil on deferred payments since May this year,” according to The Express Tribune.

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) had also announced a $6.2 billion package for Pakistan in December 2018, including $3.2 billion oil facility. But later on, the UAE reduced its financial assistance to $2 billion and also shelved the plan to give $3.2 billion oil facility on deferred payments. {That decision by UAE happened after Pakistan objected stridently to OIC inviting Ms. Sushma Swaraj to the March 1, 2019 meeting in Dubai. Quereshi refused to attend the OIC meet}
So, the question is whether China is financing Pakistan to foreclose its Saudi loans and thereby driving a wedge between the two in order to bring Pakistan even more under its thumb? Make it as lonely as North Korea?
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Wallah this is the greatest news so far. The only thing which will make it even better is if PM Modi is welcomed to Saudi to build a Ram temple there.
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The Pakistan-China fight has been brewing for some time.

Dimran wanted MBS to set up a meeting with donald trump, which MBS did. MBS also sent his private plane to take dimran to US. And it is not clear what dimran did there, MBS asked the plane to return and dimran had to catch a commercial flight. Anyone remember?


https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 8ifEP.html

A Pakistani magazine has claimed that Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman was “alienated” with “some dimensions” of Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khans actions on the sidelines of the UNGA session in New York last month, that he ordered his “private jet to disembowel the Pakistani delegation” as a consequence.
From that time onwards the relationship has been on a nosedive. China might have tried to cleave Al-Bakistan from Saudia, but bakistan probably also did some tactical brilliance there
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This is a hilarious dhulai by Palki Sharma. Dimran & co have really gone nuts!

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Its Simple Yonly

Saudi Arabia with great difficulty has persuaded Trump & then Modi to stop Crude Oil imports from Iran. China continues to import from Iran. Pakistan needling Saudis against India is not being appreciated by them as they confront Iran
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But in NYT from a few days ago, it is claimed that the Chinese may be helping the Saudis build a nuclear bomb https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/05/us/p ... ogram.html. Which would mean that (i) the Paki islamic bomb is a fizzle, (ii) the Chinese are (as usual) playing a double game with Iran and the Saudis, (iii) Saudis are ok with running afoul of Unkil; or (iv) the Paki bum is being transferred under cover of China to the Saudis; or (v) this story is bunkum.
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Remember this incident?
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... T75eL.html
Pakistan PM Imran Khan face social media storm for allegedly disrespecting Saudi king
A widely circulated video showed Pakistan PM Imran Khan walking towards the Saudi king but he appeared to be speaking directly to the royal’s translator rather than addressing him directly.
WORLD Updated: Jun 04, 2019
....
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nam wrote:One thing that has surprised me is there has no major Pak driven attack in in the past year. They had 370 & CAA issue as the excuse, yet nothing major yet.

There must be something in the pipeline...
I think one of the biggest and main reason is that TSP's 3.5 have turned the screws on through FATF and were not supporting the colonial formulation of 'both sides are guilty'. Mind you, this was not done because its the right thing to do, but more so because its in their (3.5) interest to make TSP behave.

The other reason is to a lesser extent surgical strikes and Balakot. I don't think these by itself made TSPA/ISI/RAPE pay any cost and hence rethink, but when combined with FATF, TSP realized there is a cost to their thuggish behavior.

That said, no fundamental change in TSP's posture visa vi India. They are just buying time. Furthermore, I would have thought that in the 1 year post 370, our own Kashmir Muslims would have moved on with India, but that hasn't happened. The KM scum led by the Muftis and Abdullahs and Harried rats are as rabidly extremist in their Islamist and separatist ideology. Finally, India itself is in somewhat tenuous stable state with many hating BJP/ModiJi more than any of India's TSP and Chincom enemies. These catalysts further sustain TSP to strike at the opportune moment.
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One thing that has surprised me is there has no major Pak driven attack in in the past year. They had 370 & CAA issue as the excuse, yet nothing major yet.
Another reason is the cleanup of a lot of internal enemies the so called .5 front in J&K. It sounds like a lot of support to such activities came from the previous J&K ruling dispensations and clamping down on that is showing real results.
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Pakistani awaam at work. Happened in Bara, a suburb of Peshawar

https://mobile.twitter.com/pioneersaad/ ... 9247655938
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nam wrote:One thing that has surprised me is there has no major Pak driven attack in in the past year. They had 370 & CAA issue as the excuse, yet nothing major yet.

There must be something in the pipeline...
This is another long term direct impact of Demonetisation.
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nam wrote:One thing that has surprised me is there has no major Pak driven attack in in the past year. They had 370 & CAA issue as the excuse, yet nothing major yet.

There must be something in the pipeline...
I beg to differ. In Kashmir, yes, they have been trying and failing to do a spectacular repeat of the Pulwama attack.

However the CAA protests, Delhi Riots etc., have been orchestrated and remote-controlled from abroad (largely Pakistan, and to some extent Turkey/Malaysia acting as a conduit). Their strategy has basically shifted from attempting Mumbai style attacks on the mainland (something that they had to do earlier because they couldn't get much traction among Indian Muslims) to now exploiting the fissures in our society using a small but significant population of now radicalized Indian Muslims. This has got to be counted as some measure of success for them, and something that we must be extremely wary of.
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asgkhan wrote:Dhaaga in Team-BHP on a duffer's visit to na-bakistan.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/travelog ... istan.html

He didnt step out of the bubble of La(w)hore urban boundaries, and thinks entire cuntry is like this.

Too much of love and pyaar expressed by the dehaatis in TBHP towards terroristan.
TBHP is a good forum but has an elitist (almost Lutyen-ish bias, driven by the holier than thou atittude of it's moderators). One time somebody posted a lying Paki (anonymous, from deaf and dumb forum) account of how their UN troops found that their Hino trucks were way more reliable than Ashok Leylands used by the Indian peacekeeping troops. I pointed out that Pakistanis are pathalogical liars and their statements should be taken with a bucket of salt, only to have my post instantly deleted with a moderator warning for being abusive against an ethnic group. :roll:
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schinnas wrote:The surgical strike and balakot air strikes have dented their appetite for a big one. They do keep trying including inciting Delhi riots and anti CAA riots and trying to paint a negative portrayal of Hindutva and Modiji and BJP all over the world to the level it is considered as a defact truth by ignorant Westerners.
I don't think the Westerners who matter care about Imran or Pakistan. They are just seen as an irritant. There are a few SJW types who want to show their peacefool love, but they don't amount to much.
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Rohit_K wrote:Pakistani awaam at work. Happened in Bara, a suburb of Peshawar

https://mobile.twitter.com/pioneersaad/ ... 9247655938
Is this Imran Khans Million trees scheme?
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Chinese labourers assault Pakistan Army soldiers; senior officers silent
When Chinese labourers working on the CPEC, the economic corridor linking the two countries, insulted and assaulted Pakistani soldiers on July 21, it was quietly hushed up. The Chinese labourers beat up two Pakistan Army soldiers--Havilder Asadullah and Sapper Fazal ur Rahman -- who have strict orders not to retaliate. Li Yuyun, one of the Chinese labourers, hit the havildar on the head twice, while the other labourers--Li Yujun, Li Guoying and Bu Lei-- attacked the sapper.

Even for the all-powerful Pakistan Army, the Chinese are special, they are above the law. The attack, not the first of its kind, was between the Chinese labourers working on Main Line 1 of the CPEC and the soldiers, who were supposed to protect them.

Even though the soldiers were beaten up, the Camp Commandant, Major Shehzad, asked his men to 'disengage.' Sources said the incident has left Pakistani Army soldiers demoralised as they know that their officers like Lieutenant Colonel Qasim are involved with the Chinese contractors, taking their money and supplying local labourers at inflated rates. With the Chinese above the law, Major Shehzad, while inquiring into the incident, didn't even question the Chinese, and instead, got the information from 'third parties.'
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At least 5 killed, 20 injured in powerful blast in Chaman
Syed Ali Shah Updated 10 Aug 2020

At least five people were killed and 20 were injured in a blast on Chaman's Mall Road on Monday, Assistant Commissioner Zakaullah Durrani said.

The wounded have been shifted to the Civil Hospital. Chaman is considered a sensitive town in Balochistan as it shares a border with Afghanistan's volatile Kandahar province. In March this year, at least nine people were injured in an explosion near the Levies Lines of the town. The attack targetted Levies Risaldar Maj Naseebullah, who remained safe.

Balochistan has recently seen an increase in terrorist attacks. Last month at least one person was killed, while seven were injured in an explosion in a bazaar in Turbat that was also caused by an IED planted in a motorbike.

Earlier in May, seven soldiers, including a junior commissioned officer, were martyred in a bomb blast and an exchange of fire with militants.

Six of the soldiers were martyred in Bolan district when an improvised explosive device went off near the vehicle in which they were travelling. One other was martyred in an exchange of gunfire with militants in Makran district, sources had said.

In April, two Pakistan Army soldiers were martyred and two others injured in a bomb blast that took place in Toba Achakzai area of Qila Abdullah, a district bordering Afghanistan.




Source/// paki newspaper dawn
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Bart S wrote:
asgkhan wrote:Dhaaga in Team-BHP on a duffer's visit to na-bakistan.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/travelog ... istan.html

He didnt step out of the bubble of La(w)hore urban boundaries, and thinks entire cuntry is like this.

Too much of love and pyaar expressed by the dehaatis in TBHP towards terroristan.
TBHP is a good forum but has an elitist (almost Lutyen-ish bias, driven by the holier than thou atittude of it's moderators). One time somebody posted a lying Paki (anonymous, from deaf and dumb forum) account of how their UN troops found that their Hino trucks were way more reliable than Ashok Leylands used by the Indian peacekeeping troops. I pointed out that Pakistanis are pathalogical liars and their statements should be taken with a bucket of salt, only to have my post instantly deleted with a moderator warning for being abusive against an ethnic group. :roll:
Just clicked your link. What is it with these descendants of people who were violently cleansed out of Pakistan and their drooling nostalgia and admiration for the dispossessors of their forbears anyway? Sure, you can achieve some kind of reconciliation for your internal peace of mind, but to become the foremost drum-beaters for those scum just because they have a few roads and buildings? Hard to wrap my head around it.

Probably has something to do with destruction of self-esteem and loss of selfhood that happens for victims of violence.
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^^ The idiot is like a starry eyed school boy behaving as if he visited some kind of wonderland. And so many oohs and aahs from other dudes reading that immature tripe .. amazing how these people disassociate themselves from the shared, painful experiences of their country and see the world strictly as individuals, as if they are an island disconnected from their land or people. No wonder Pakis or Whites find it too easy to subvert Indians into working against Indian interests. Shows a lack of patriotism and concern about fellow Indians
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I don't see anything wrong in that article. Islamabad is very scenic and green. Pakistani Punjab is relatively rich and due to US influence for decades has much better roads. They have actual expressways with tolls on the exits, which are yet to be made in India except for one or two stretches.

The sorry state of inner roads and town planning in Indian metros is well known that even parts of Pukistan can come of much better in comparision. This is the sad reality that the poster has exposed.

India is still struggling to come out of Nehruvian socialism when it comes to road infra. Even roads in Kenyan Capitol are much better than roads in India.

Truth needs to be digested. No point in shooting the messenger / team bhp. Self respect shouldn't mean self delusion.
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schinnas wrote:Truth needs to be digested. No point in shooting the messenger / team bhp. Self respect shouldn't mean self delusion.


I think further discussion should be in India Roads thread. BTW, did you ever visit Gujarat, Bengaluru?
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^^^^
zactly my thoughts :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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All the love & admiration would vaporize, when the dude will be singled out for "extra security checks" in international airports, after seeing the Pakistani visa & stamp on his passport..

Visiting Pak is a gift that will be reminded for his entire life at US & European airports..
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Bart S wrote:
asgkhan wrote:Dhaaga in Team-BHP on a duffer's visit to na-bakistan.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/travelog ... istan.html

He didnt step out of the bubble of La(w)hore urban boundaries, and thinks entire cuntry is like this.

Too much of love and pyaar expressed by the dehaatis in TBHP towards terroristan.
TBHP is a good forum but has an elitist (almost Lutyen-ish bias, driven by the holier than thou atittude of it's moderators). One time somebody posted a lying Paki (anonymous, from deaf and dumb forum) account of how their UN troops found that their Hino trucks were way more reliable than Ashok Leylands used by the Indian peacekeeping troops. I pointed out that Pakistanis are pathalogical liars and their statements should be taken with a bucket of salt, only to have my post instantly deleted with a moderator warning for being abusive against an ethnic group. :roll:
@Bart Ji, you are right, the slide of TBhp into a left-lib outpost with a visceral hatred of the current dispensation is well and truly underway, and like all things LeLi, faces a real prospect of fading into irrelevance.

asgkhan : I think one more reason of fine infrastructure would be ummah grants executed by US style firms. Also, primarily used by the "Car-owner" which is an extremely privileged class in NaPak. Last year, the cumulative sales of cars and light commercial vehicles combined stood at 186,581. I am assuming only about 100,000* would be private purchases, giving an incredibly low per capita ownership. That might show in the better road manners, since there are hardly any others vying for the same space. Most may also employ a driver, who may have learnt the trade in gelf.


*Compare that with a whopping 75lakh+ cars sold in India in the last 2 years alone.
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I remember a Mid-day (???) article by a "jurno" that had gone to Bakistan with one of the "Aman ka tamasha" type tours. She came back and wrote a complimentary piece about the condition inside bakistan and how it was better than India.

Some of her comments went something like "It was cleaner", "looked much more prosperous", "more wimmin drivers on road than India", bla bla ...

While all the other comments made it look that she was on a "guided" visit to one of the "defence enclaves", her comments about the wimmin drivers was a dead giveaway.

I mean even in Lawhore and Slumbad, if one were to step out of the "defense enclaves" and the main streets, one would be hard pressed to find wimmin driving around. Seems this is a similar type of experience. One does not really have to drive out of Lawhore and Slumbad to see the reality of Bakistan. One just has to step out of the bubble.
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Team BHP subscribes to the Kerala model of Nationalism because most of the vehicle enthusiasts online are from Kerala. Infact they have a dedicated thread to Mamooty and his son Dulqueer Rahman.
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70% of Team BHP is inhabited by IT-Vity munnas from Bangalore,Pune etc. They've always had this "holier than thou" attitude where most of them consider themselves to be "global citizens" and think its their birth right to buy cars at American prices, drive on German autobahn type highways and burn petrol sold at the same prices as in Saudi Arabia. Like the nouveau bourgeoisie elsewhere many of them think its "uncool" to support your nation and your government, patriotism and pride for ones culture and roots is for the unwashed masses and not for the single-malt & french wine sipping, Dubai and London shopping, California business trip travelling Bengaluru based auto enthusiast.
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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Post by kvraghav »

These Bangalore IT Vity Munnas are mostly Kerala and TamilNadu people active in Team BHP. I very rarely find other posters from Andhra or Karnataka who subscribe to this view. In fact i know two Karnataka guys who were banned for life for having contrarian views.
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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

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IF the C H U T I Y A S in Team BHP are comparing road in Slumabad with roads in ordinary towns in India then they have zero common sense. Let them compare it to Chandigarh and Gandhinagar for cleanliness and greenery ( Islamabad and these Indian cities are planned and developed from scratch)

For regular watchers of Paki current affairs shows it is not uncommon to see them discuss how India has more participation of women in all walks of life.They express surprise at how unlike in pakistan, Indian women drive so casually in scooties/two wheelers.

All the talk of TFTA pakis is just calculated image building and showing off of their best. Check the coverage of their internal areas and the poverty and dishelvelled ugly looks of an average porki is so common and apparent.
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