Terroristan - November 11, 2019

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Vadivel wrote:Which BRFite wrote this? :mrgreen: :D
https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... sad-nation
The only takeaway for pakhanis is this unverifiable "factoid":

A recent analytical report suggests that Financial Action Task Force’s grey-listing over the last few years may have caused real GDP losses to Pakistan of USD 38 billion.


Brace yourselves as you will hear this number bandied about on every paki talk show, vomit fest and niazi-takreer over the next twelve months.
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Obviously non-state actors.

12 Pak army men found guilty of helping Ehsan
Ex-TTP spokesperson, Ehsanullah Ehsan, had fled from a Pakistan army safe house in Peshawar in January 2020.
Two senior army officers of the Pakistan army, including one colonel and one major, and 10 other subordinate ranks are facing military trial for their involvement in the escape of former Tehrik-e-Taliban (TTP) spokesperson, Ehsanullah Ehsan, who had fled from a Pakistan army safe house in Peshawar in January 2020.
After the initial phase of denying that he had escaped from their custody, the Pakistan army later told the media that he had escaped during a counter-terror operation.
Ehsan himself and other independent Pakistan-based sources confirmed to The Sunday Guardian that he had fled from his safe house along with his family members from Peshawar city in the middle of the night by booking a taxi on the night of 12 January 2020.
The Colonel, who has been held responsible for helping Ehsan, is of Punjabi ethnicity, while the Major is a Pathan.
https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/worl ... ping-ehsan
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Deeply Vohra’s article is in the style designed to infuriate the Pakistan establishment and “patriots”. One can almost see him choosing the buttons to press.

He should spell Niazi as Niatzi. (Indians pronounce Nazi, as in Hitler, incorrectly. Much as they mispronounce pizza. There is a t phoneme before the z).
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^^^^ Medical equipment like scissors, forceps, tweezers and the like. Sialkot is a major center for such products, along with footballs. Don't think ECG or MRI equipment.
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Calling all Gretas and Rihannas of the world. Please register your support (Istandwith______#).

Protests erupt in multiple cities after TLP chief Saad Rizvi detained in Lahore
Tehreek-i-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) chief Saad Hussain Rizvi has been detained by security forces in Lahore on Monday, the party leadership confirmed.
Protests broke out at numerous places in Karachi and other major cities following the development.
In a video message, TLP naib emir Syed Zaheerul Hassan Shah said the government had "completely deviated from" the agreement it had reached with the TLP regarding Namoos-i-Risalat.
The government has resorted to thuggery
“Carry out protest demonstrations on roads and wherever you are, jam the entire country"
He said the government had "turned back on its promise" to expel the French ambassador by April 20
The TLP had previously called off protests in February after an agreement was signed between the group and the government in which it was decided that the government would present the terms of an earlier agreement signed between them last year in the parliament before April 20.
That earlier agreement had stated that the government would ... not appoint its ambassador to France
Harami link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1617837/prote ... -in-lahore
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One thing I noticed when I saw the yawn website above is that in their home page, there is a space showing news from China Daily. Have the hans now started controlling news in Pakiland in a more direct manner?
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anupmisra wrote:Calling all Gretas and Rihannas of the world. Please register your support (Istandwith______#).

Protests erupt in multiple cities after TLP chief Saad Rizvi detained in Lahore

There is big misunderstanding. Most extremists belong to the extremist Deobandi sect, but Pakistan follows the moderate Barelvi sect who are interested in social justice causes like
"If they give me the atom bomb I would remove Holland from the face of the earth" said Tehreek Labbaik Pakistan Ya Rasool Allah (TLP) chief Rizvi
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 930191.cms

Sounds peaceful and moderate to me. Even if the do occassional extremist things, Imran khan, the western educated, 3 times married playboy will ensure they follow moderate policies such as
On 2 November 2018, the Government of Pakistan under the administration of Imran Khan and the Tehreek-e-Labbaik political party, which encouraged the protests against Asia Bibi, came into an agreement that barred Asia Bibi from leaving the country, in addition to releasing Tehreek-e-Labbaik protesters who were under arrest. The deal includes expediting a motion in the court to place Asia Noreen on Pakistan's no fly list, known officially as the Exit Control List (ECL)
After she was acquitted.
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So ISI killed Khadim Rizvi because this threat was 'inconvenient' but his son has grabbed the baton. Not to mention lakhs of branwashed crazies.
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Bart S wrote:So ISI killed Khadim Rizvi because this threat was 'inconvenient' but his son has grabbed the baton. Not to mention lakhs of branwashed crazies.
this is Homeland season 8
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Plij do watch this add from Shan masala. it features a chini couple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSvmJtJbVD0


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Atmavik wrote:Plij do watch this add from Shan masala. it features a chini couple

...
Amazing, I learned so much onlee :). Just one question.

In the last century, so many British women were also in India due to their husbands' postings. I'm sure, like the Chinese woman above, those British women would also have yearned for the company, respect, and goodwill of their Indian sisters. Those British women would have also wanted to desperately fit into high Indian society, to learn and imitate the local culture onlee. How come this idea of reaching the hearts of their Indian sisters through their stomachs, never occurred to those British women?

It's a deep mystery :P .
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Vadivel wrote:Which BRFite wrote this? :mrgreen: :D


https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... sad-nation
Added confirmation from this line:
"Has Niazi’s god-substitute Xi PingPong not told him that infrastructure development alone does not bring social cohesiveness?" Xi PingPong, really?
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Atmavik wrote:Plij do watch this add from Shan masala. it features a chini couple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSvmJtJbVD0


The last scene should have been a steaming bowl of Bat Nihari
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^^ here is the irony, Halal food is banned in sugar-is-tan. hope this add is shown in Xinjiang
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/819361 ... -countries
PM demands financial support for developing countries
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sudarshan wrote:
Atmavik wrote:Plij do watch this add from Shan masala. it features a chini couple
...
Amazing, I learned so much onlee :). Just one question.
In the last century, so many British women were also in India due to their husbands' postings. I'm sure, like the Chinese woman above, those British women would also have yearned for the company, respect, and goodwill of their Indian sisters. Those British women would have also wanted to desperately fit into high Indian society, to learn and imitate the local culture onlee. How come this idea of reaching the hearts of their Indian sisters through their stomachs, never occurred to those British women?
It's a deep mystery :P .
Let me clear up the mystery as best as I can:The British women in India were mostly those married to British civil servants or military officers, and some were those who had come over in search of (proper) husbands to wed. The British businessmen were as a class looked down upon as trades people and were not considered to be of good marriage material. These women were taught to consider themselves superior to Indian women and men in every way. Their only contact with Indians were the servants. Such households employed huge number of servants, unlike England, where they often had none. Normal Indians were not allowed entry in such society, such as a club, where Britishers spent their spare time. There was a token number of Indian civil servants (Indian ICS) and Indian officers with commissioned rank. But this group was not allowed to meet the British in a social setting. The children of such British couples were sent back to "Home" country and placed in boarding schools called Public Schools, so that they were not contaminated by India, and they had the right accents, backgrounds and mentality.There was no friendship between the rulers and the ruled. Actually, there was no social contact between the two groups. Please refer to books such as the Raj Quartet by Paul Scott; or A Passage to India by EM Forster, and the picture will be very clear. The British ruling class in India believed that they were ruling India because they were superior to the Indians in every way and this myth could be only reinforced by keeping both Indians and the British apart in every way. There was another group of people in between, the Anglo-Indians, but that is another story.
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g.sarkar wrote: Let me clear up the mystery as best as I can:..
Gautam
Ji, not sure if your response was serious, or whether you got the sarcasm in my original post. I was pointing that whatever you said about the British in India, is also how it is with the Chinese in Pak. So that Paki ad is wishful thinking, like if the Indians of the previous century wishfully made such an ad featuring a British woman in India.
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From the same article:
Munir Akram said, “it is a pleasure to make this opening statement at the Economic and Social Council’s Financing for Development Forum under Pakistan’s Presidency”.
Bhikaristan is the current President of the 11th session of the Commission on Trade and Development which is one of the key constituents of the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD), ably led by a girl friend/wife-beater :roll:

Really?

That's like electing North Korea as the President of the UN Human Rights Council.
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partha wrote:https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/819361 ... -countries
PM demands financial support for developing countries
For Developing countries, Yes. Inbreeding Jehadi countries like Pakistan do not qualify.

While he was at it Charsi Imran should have also demanded writing off all the dues against Pakistan, payment of $110 Billion that the World owes to pakistan in its fight against for export of terrorism and a UN Security council seat :rotfl:
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^^^^^^^
from the article quoted above


and this is what is actually bothering the TFTA bikhari pakis

and they are too afraid to name India, lest Modi rams it up theirs, even harder and further



He believed the deliberations of the Forum this year were critical as the world battles the coronavirus and its massive socio-economic fallout. “Vaccine nationalism and export restrictions are deplorable; as is the use of the vaccine to advance national foreign policy objectives,” he said.

A moratorium should be declared on the exorbitant claims adjudicated against some developing countries in investment disputes. Unequal and exploitative investment agreements should be cancelled and revised,” he stressed.

About the virus, he noted that Pakistan contained the first two waves of the virus through a policy of ‘smart lockdowns’. “We implemented an 8 billion dollar relief package to support the poor and vulnerable, and to keep our economy afloat at the same time. Now, unfortunately we are facing the third wave of the virus. Insha Allah, we hope to defeat this wave as well. We need a lot of luck, as everyone does,” he said.

The international community, he contended, must ensure that the vaccine was available to everyone, everywhere, as soon as possible. If not, the virus would roam around and come back. Production of the vaccine must be ramped up. Patent and technology-transfer restrictions should be waived to enable this.


with arra on his side, why does this jehadi moron need luck

normally people are "bushwacked", but the TFTA pakis have been "sinovacked" by their pork eating cheeni pals
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sudarshan wrote:
Atmavik wrote:Plij do watch this add from Shan masala. it features a chini couple

...
How come this idea of reaching the hearts of their Indian sisters through their stomachs, never occurred to those British women?

It's a deep mystery :P .
Well it all happened !., the "history" books never taught us that., probably you need to hear it from our great grandfathers !! Many of them came to love this country and its people better than their own brethren
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A moratorium should be declared on the exorbitant claims adjudicated against some developing countries in investment disputes. Unequal and exploitative investment agreements should be cancelled and revised,” he stressed.
Looks like pakis are blaming China without naming China -- probably asked the descendants of their new hero Ertegrul to pick a fight with China on their behalf. Hope pakis and turukkans increase their friendship at all levels and float up to the top.
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partha wrote:https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/819361 ... -countries
PM demands financial support for developing countries
Reminds me a quote from Asterix . Invading viking whining " we burn your villages, destroy your house, rape your women ......and still you do not like us".
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srikandan wrote:
A moratorium should be declared on the exorbitant claims adjudicated against some developing countries in investment disputes. Unequal and exploitative investment agreements should be cancelled and revised,” he stressed.
Looks like pakis are blaming China without naming China -- probably asked the descendants of their new hero Ertegrul to pick a fight with China on their behalf. Hope pakis and turukkans increase their friendship at all levels and float up to the top.
no, that's not it

see below for the reason why the paki butt is bleeding.
PAKISTAN lost two international arbitration cases in quick succession over the last two months, involving more than $900 million compensation payable to local and international business firms.

In the first case, the World Bank’s International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) awarded around $800m compensation to Karkey Karadeniz Elektrik Uretim of Turkey in a rental power case and held that Pakistan “expropriated” Karkey’s assets.

Weeks later, the London Court of International Arbitration (LCIA) asked Pakistan in its final arbitration award to pay around Rs14 billion ($135m), including a markup, to a group of nine local power producers for breaching contractual obligations.

Pakistan has been unable to develop its own specialised pool of experts in arbitration and contract writing despite a recent rise in the number of cases

In both cases, there is still room for out-of-court settlement and litigation delays. The government may not have to make payments upfront, but the loss of its reputation is a serious issue. It brings to the fore the casual attitude of successive governments in finalising business deals in a rush to achieve narrow objectives at the cost of national and public interests.

In fact, Pakistan has lost almost all cases, some of them of strategic importance, at all international arbitration forums. The only exception in recent past was the Progas LPG case in which claims by an individual against the government of Pakistan were rejected by an arbitration court of London in August last year.

Even in that case, Pakistan accrued substantial financial expenses in the shape of legal fee and related arbitration costs.

Pakistan has also lost to India in the case of Kishanganga hydropower project before the international court of arbitration, besides an unsatisfactory outcome of the neutral expert decision in the matter of Baglihar hydropower project.

The experience of international litigations by the National Accountability Bureau and the Federal Board of Revenue has also been unimpressive.

The outcome of the Reko Diq arbitration, initiated by Chilean and Canadian mining firms, also appears to be going against Pakistan as indicated by the ICSID and allowed the parties to find out an out-of-court settlement before it gives a final determination.

Despite a recent rise in the number of international arbitration cases, Pakistan has been unable to develop its own specialised pool of experts in arbitration and contract writing. The selection of arbitration counsels and law firms at home and abroad is made on the basis of relationships, friendships and pick and choose at exorbitant cost, rather than on the basis of a transparent process.

In the Karkey case alone, Pakistan is estimated to have paid almost Rs1.5bn to the foreign law firm, besides expenses on visits of official delegations.

One reason why Pakistan faces international arbitration cases is its inability to evolve a uniform law for the standardising of contracts and the choice of arbitral frameworks. In most cases, the government agrees to the demands of external investors in long-term deals and cherry-picking in dealing with jurisdictions of the local legal system to bypass contractual enforcement.

Karkey and Reko Diq are classic examples of adopting such a route. The country’s apex court intervened in business disputes in both cases to get rid of apparently unfavourable business deals and yet found to its embarrassment that contracts involving international arbitration end up attracting expensive compensation in case of the violation of provisions of contracts.

It also brought to the fore the need for productive institutional input for the preparation of contracts and business terms, along with the selection of the arbitration forum and proper preparatory mechanism in selecting law firms and arbitrators having expertise in special areas and jurisdiction.

On top of that, there is no reward and punishment mechanism for the preparation of contracts, selection of dispute settlement mechanism in contracts and the negotiation strategies where the public-sector entities readily agree on international arbitration without input from experts. In the process, they willingly waive its rights over sovereign immunity in matters of enforcement of arbitral awards, thus giving up the jurisdictions of local courts.

In fact, those involved in the process mostly try to come up to the expectations of the boss, irrespective of pros and cons of the deal, to get rewards in the shape of promotions and lucrative postings.

Moreover, besides signing tens of bilateral investment treaties with other countries, the government has not yet been able to standardise agreements and heavy stakes are parked against Pakistan’s interests as public functionaries fail to take care of wilful delays by the investors selected without a transparent bidding process.

The latest trend of bypassing procurement rules to award contracts without bidding on the premise of saving time or bilateral agreements or foreign policy objectives often results in varying terms and authorities without delving into consequences of future liabilities. Such examples are particularly evident in recent contracts mostly going to Chinese, Turkish and Qatari firms.

In the absence of transparency, such contracts become the subject of political controversies, which not only affect the country’s image as an investment destination, but ultimately bilateral relations and the public interest at large.

Because of the bilateral element, the terms of contracts keep on changing in the shape of tax exemption and favours to the sponsors here and there because the person signing agreement seldom comes to know about the contents.

Confidentiality clauses of such agreements also make it difficult for critics to point out weaknesses and agreements are skewed against the government.

In many cases, those negotiating agreements are not a direct party to the contract, and process investment proposals on behalf of third parties, such as in the case of imported LNG and power projects.

Then comes a stage when the government tries to contain its obligations at a later stage, which ultimately forces investors to invoke international arbitration jurisdictions. To cover up the weaknesses, government functionaries then tend to hire foreign firms at exorbitant costs with minimal expert support from home.

Published in Dawn, The Business and Finance Weekly, November 13th, 2017.
also

20 AUG 2019

The Reko Diq mine case shows the overreach of a secretive arbitration system.

Last month, the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID), a global quasi-court, slapped more than a $5 billion fine on Pakistan in an arbitration case involving a gold and copper mine.

and

Hyderabad Funds Case: Another Big Blow to Pakistan, Pak Lost $39 Million Lawsuit to India
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anupmisra wrote:Obviously non-state actors.

12 Pak army men found guilty of helping Ehsan
does this mean that officers and men within Paki army that are supporting the Islamic calpihate of Taliban? Against the wishes of the Generals. or this is just fake show?
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Last month, the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID), a global quasi-court, slapped more than a $5 billion fine on Pakistan in an arbitration case involving a gold and copper mine.

and

Hyderabad Funds Case: Another Big Blow to Pakistan, Pak Lost $39 Million Lawsuit to India
Thanks, chetakji. Looks like some fellow takes 10% and let's it be someone else's problem.
Because of the bilateral element, the terms of contracts keep on changing in the shape of tax exemption and favours to the sponsors here and there because the person signing agreement seldom comes to know about the contents.
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sudarshan wrote:
g.sarkar wrote: Let me clear up the mystery as best as I can:..
Gautam
Ji, not sure if your response was serious, or whether you got the sarcasm in my original post.
So, sorry, I do not understand sarcasm.
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The difference is clear to the overseas capital partners.

India = Atm-nirbhar Bharat (hence safe, reliable, trustworthy)
Beggaristan = Atami-nirbhar Pakhanistan (therefore eruptive, unreliable, demanding)

Take your pick.
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Contracts in Al-Bakistan seems to be randomly written because some neta or jernail wanted to quickly conclude something.

All Bakistanis were super happy when their taller than friend called it "Punjab speed"
World acknowledges ‘Punjab Speed’

"https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/285805 ... njab-speed"
You go in with a proposal and 2 days later walk out with a contract. This happened during Badmash's tenure, in fact I have a conspiracy theory about CPEC. Most of it was hastily signed uneconomical projects to solve the power cut issue in Bakistan (anyone remember the 10 hour power cuts) to ensure Nawaz gets re-elected. They were successful in their objective: Pakistan is a power surplus country now. But the terms of contract were nandi droppings. Guaranteed purchases, uneconomical tariffs etc etc.

Same happened for Independent power producers. Pakistan went back and tried to reduce tariffs. Some of them said yes, some said now and went to arbitration. I am reasonably sure the $900 million was because of trying to re-negotiate tariffs.

Apparently Al-Bakistan wants to re-negotiate the terms of CPEC power projects as well. The chinese are pretty angry about that.
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Pakhanistan - land of geniuses. They are everywhere!

12 injured in explosion during football match in Balochistan's Hub
Lasbela SSP Tariq Ilahi, who inspected the site of the explosion, told the media that it was caused by a locally manufactured improvised explosive device (IED) that had been planted in the ground..."The explosion occurred while the final match was being played," he said
:roll:

Irony was not lost when the SSP said this:
According to the SSP, the football tournament was dedicated to police martyrs.
Haraami link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1618030/12-in ... istans-hub
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the real news out of paxstan is the ongoing agitation of TLP who are demanding expulsion of French ambassador. seems whole of paxstan has been brought to standstill. Pak gov reneging on their agreement with TLP !!!
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manjgu wrote:the real news out of paxstan is the ongoing agitation of TLP who are demanding expulsion of French ambassador. seems whole of paxstan has been brought to standstill. Pak gov reneging on their agreement with TLP !!!

Media is under strict orders to downplay these protests. looks like jr Rizivi is a fanatic who scared even his dad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBApH3e2HQU
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Best part is Pak Army Men/Rangers who were sent on patrol and crowd control on Jeeps with mounted guns started shouting slogans in favor of the TLP and its leader :lol: ( Mashaa-araah Pakistani soldiers maintaining their reputation of down-hill skiing)

Which other Banana Republic in this world gives in writing to Fringe elements that it will soon chuck out the French Ambassador :rotfl:
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Paki dream of becoming ISIS is coming true. watch this video


https://twitter.com/nailainayat/status/ ... 3687654409
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Looks like Bajwa's peace/cease-fire with India has not gone well with some of his dadi wall fauj. this protest could be a signal to not go further.


https://twitter.com/GulBukhari/status/1 ... 5794942979
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paki police captured and forced to chant "Labaik" with panda

https://twitter.com/documaraftab/status ... 4588601350
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Btw has Pakistan blamed the current crisis on India/RAW etc like they always do?
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Atmavik wrote:Paki dream of becoming ISIS is coming true. watch this video


https://twitter.com/nailainayat/status/ ... 3687654409
Mashallah! Dont miss the Pak Fauj Jindabad chants at the end. The chickens are coming home!!!
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