Terroristan - November 11, 2019

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Vadivel » 18 Aug 2020 17:56

g.sarkar wrote:Statutory warning: Contains Madam Jalebi's pictures, avoid if you are a minor, with a weak heart, stomach or with other strange medical problems:
Shah Mehmood Qureshi all set to be sacrificed on the political altar of Prime Minister Imran Khan

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Vips » 18 Aug 2020 18:07

schinnas wrote:Before taking out Terroristan, its four father's need to be taken care.

Ever since UK waned, Turkey has taken its place:
1. China
2. Saudi Arabia and UAE
3. USA (just namesake under Trump and even that only because of Afghan equation). Also once a much demanded source of GC and student visas for Fauji children but not anymore.
4. Turkey

Of these, Turks are mostly providing moral support and some tech/ defence support but no moolah. If Saudi and UAE pull the plug on aid and their post covid economy naturally reduces the remittances to Pak, it will be just be left at the mercy of Cheen. Knowing the ham handed and anti muslim approach of Cheen aam zhou, and Paki perfidity, it's just a matter of time before fissures develop there.

Its very important that US does not restart the gravy train for next two years either directly or through IMF, WB.

Masha Allah!


Chinese will give some Moollah to Porkis only after it secures as collateral some sizeable strategic areas in Pakistan. Pakis being Pakis will also expect to get Oil from Iran under the same terms as the Saudi's(On easy terms and on credit which will be written off later). Boy they sure would get some jhapads from Iran. Turkey will give some Mil tech to the Pakis, who will in exchange have to give the nuclear jewels to them.
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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Aditya_V » 18 Aug 2020 18:26

Turkey Mil tech is controlled by Nato, unless Nato clears it like in the past it will not be given to the Pakis. Turkey is yet to make a clean break from Nato.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Bart S » 18 Aug 2020 20:20



Pakis trying to put a positive spin on it.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Skanda » 18 Aug 2020 23:03

Bart S wrote:

Pakis trying to put a positive spin on it.


So, a question I don't understand. When you go to visit a head of a state, I used to think every formality is decided by bureaucrats down to the last minute. How can you show up in another country and not secure a meeting? Unless, the Saudis asked the Gen to come and then snubbed him.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby pankajs » 18 Aug 2020 23:05

https://twitter.com/KlasraRauf/status/1 ... 5063241729
Rauf Klasra @KlasraRauf

Breaking: Pakistan Army Chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa & DG ISI Gen Faiz Returned to Pakistan Without Meeting Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman. What happened in Kingdom?

Inside story with @AmirMateen2

https://youtu.be/KMV21RPuJ3Q

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Rsatchi » 18 Aug 2020 23:27

https://youtu.be/nJrhOrBBmkY
Paki Motorma 'chaddi uthrao of Napak'
73 years fantastic progress!!!
Enjoy

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 18 Aug 2020 23:40

Skanda wrote:So, a question I don't understand. When you go to visit a head of a state, I used to think every formality is decided by bureaucrats down to the last minute. How can you show up in another country and not secure a meeting? Unless, the Saudis asked the Gen to come and then snubbed him.

Can the Indian COAS and the head of Raa meet the head of a state/government at the drop of a hat? Pakistan does not believe in such formalities, that is why Dimran works as a part time driver, picking up state guests from the airport.
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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Lisa » 19 Aug 2020 00:10

Do not know how to publish a tweet. First attempt. Please correct as necessary

https://twitter.com/AnwarLodhi/status/1 ... 9464949771

Islamabad Airport, apparently designed to rain inside.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby dinesh_kimar » 19 Aug 2020 00:28

^ Hey, why you acting like a charltan?

Arrey janab, It's only a few tiles falling, not a plane crash !

Why you taking videos and posting online , for behizzati of our Mulk!!

(In Punjabi) saalo da haat paair maara....

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Bart S » 19 Aug 2020 03:15

Lisa wrote:Do not know how to publish a tweet. First attempt. Please correct as necessary

https://twitter.com/AnwarLodhi/status/1 ... 9464949771

Islamabad Airport, apparently designed to rain inside.


Yes, the iron blother cheen provided them for free, what Singapore airport spent US$ 1.3 billion to build!

Image

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Bart S » 19 Aug 2020 03:25

g.sarkar wrote:
Skanda wrote:So, a question I don't understand. When you go to visit a head of a state, I used to think every formality is decided by bureaucrats down to the last minute. How can you show up in another country and not secure a meeting? Unless, the Saudis asked the Gen to come and then snubbed him.

Can the Indian COAS and the head of Raa meet the head of a state/government at the drop of a hat? Pakistan does not believe in such formalities, that is why Dimran works as a part time driver, picking up state guests from the airport.
Gautam


To understand that, one needs to delve into the Paki psyche. Steve 'Uneven' Cohen used famously said that Pakis like to negotiate with a gun to their own head. There was even a Paki news clipping that was posted on BRF about a decade back about a beggar who was also carrying a gun and threatening people in Isloo or Lahore.

Basically the Paki establishment had Qureshi try and blackmail Saudis in order to put pressure on them to support them on Kashmir. Qureshi is an army proxy, plus he has his own vested interests in trying to one-up Dimran since he sees himself as a potential successor. Saudis OTOH just got pissed off and lost any remaining patience with them and pulled their funding and turned off the free oil spigot. This crisis has been brewing since Dimran joined hands with Mahathir and Erdogan at the UNGA meet, they were especially miffed about Erdogan and Turkey, and more recently the GCC had banned Ertrugul whereas the Pakis have been virtually using it as state propaganda.

So since Bajwa's too clever by half plan backfired, they decided to sacrifice Qureshi and Bajwa dashed over to Saudi uninvited (despite ISPR saying that it was all pre-planned) as a supplicant, in order to beg for forgiveness. In the old days the Saudis might have fallen for that nonsense, but the fact that they very publicly snubbed him and made the news known indicates that they have had enough of the duplicitious Pakis.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

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https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1295800780335718400
Will not accept Israel, says Pakistani PM Imran Khan in an interview to @DunyaNews's @AajKamranKhan

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1295797257321607168
Just in: Pakistan PM confirms Chinese President Xi Jinping will visit his country.

You heard it here 6 days ago

https://twitter.com/FrontalAssault1/sta ... 5888329728
After global snubs, Pak PM Imran Khan says in a interview today 'Pak future lies with China'

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 19 Aug 2020 14:20

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-inter ... hina-moves
As Pakistan and Saudi Arabia drift apart, China moves in
SYED FAZL-E-HAIDER, 19 Aug 2020

Pakistan­–Saudi Arabia relations are at a historically low ebb. In November 2018, Saudi Arabia announced a US$6.2 billion loan package for cash-strapped Pakistan. The package included a total of $3 billion in loans and an oil credit facility amounting to $3.2 billion. Then, however, Riyad demanded the return of the US$3 billion loan and refused to sell oil to Islamabad on deferred payment. In response, Pakistan immediately returned $1 billion to the Saudis, signalling a distancing from Riyadh. Apparently, the differences between the two countries emerged after Saudi Arabia sided with India in recent tensions over Kashmir. But this is not the only irritant in Saudi-Pakistan relations. In fact, what has raised eyebrows in Riyadh is Pakistan’s tilt towards Turkey and Malaysia, which have emerged as new leaders in the Muslim world and strongly support Pakistan’s stand on Kashmir, while condemning India’s treatment of the Kashmiri people.
Enter China, which has risen to the support of cash-strapped Pakistan in a tug-of-war with Saudi Arabia. With strategic focus shifting from Saudi Arabia to Turkey and Malaysia, China appears to be pushing Pakistan to lead the Muslim world.
Saudi-Pakistan relations apparently deteriorated when Saudi Arabia turned down Pakistan’s request to convene a special meeting of the Council of Foreign Ministers of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to discuss Kashmir. The statement by Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on television this month dented bilateral relations further when he warned that Pakistan would be forced to take it in its own hands:
If you cannot convene it [a special meeting on Kashmir], then I’ll be compelled to ask Prime Minister Imran Khan to call a meeting of the Islamic countries that are ready to stand with us on the issue of Kashmir and support the oppressed Kashmiris. As the existing OIC leadership has been enjoying strong relations with the United States, there is an opening for China to make inroads in the Muslim world and to expand its influence through this emerging new bloc.
The deterioration in ties had already begun in December last year, when, under Saudi pressure, Pakistan pulled out of an international summit of Muslim leaders held in Malaysia. The summit was hosted by Malaysia’s then prime minister Mahathir Mohamad in Kuala Lumpur and attended by dozens of world leaders, including Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, to discuss current issues in the Muslim world.
Erdoğan, however, disclosed that Khan – who had been a prime mover behind the summit – withdrew from the meeting after Saudi Arabia issued economic threats to Pakistan. Erdoğan claimed that Saudi Arabia had threatened to send back four million Pakistanis working in Saudi Arabia and also to withdraw $3 billion from Pakistan’s central bank. Riyad had reservations over the Malaysian summit as it was not organised under the OIC, which could divide the Muslim Ummah.
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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby nam » 19 Aug 2020 14:36

We want Pak firmly in to the Chini camp, a group which will be hit with sanctions soon. But knowing them very well, they are smart enough to know the "future" is not in being fully with China.

The moment they have an window of opportunity to be in the rent boy for US, they will jump in.

US gives them free money, China gives them loan. That is the difference.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 19 Aug 2020 18:56

https://propakistani.pk/lens/saudi-arab ... s-of-fire/
Saudi Arabia Wants to ‘Expose’ Turkey’s Dirilis Ertugrul with Kingdoms of Fire
Begun, the cultural wars have.
by UMMARA SHERAZ

Looks like local Pakistani producers aren’t the only ones irked by the success of Diriliş: Ertuğrul. Even Saudi Arabia is trying to combat the influence of Turkish drama Dirilis Ertugrul with its own counter-narrative series Kingdoms of Fire. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is introducing its own alternatives for the globally acclaimed ‘Turkish Game of Thrones‘. The opening salvo against its war against Turkish cultural invasion is the big-budget period drama Kingdoms of Fire, which reportedly cost $40 million to make. Besides splurging on the budget, KSA also brought in British director Peter Webber, known for ‘The Girl With the Pearl Earring‘ and ‘Hannibal Rising‘ to direct the series.
Saudi-owned MBC network, the Middle East’s most-watched TV channel, is airing the 14-episode period drama since last month.
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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Manish_P » 19 Aug 2020 20:06

g.sarkar wrote:Saudi Arabia Wants to ‘Expose’ Turkey’s Dirilis Ertugrul with Kingdoms of Fire

Begun, the cultural wars have.


Fiction, without any Science, they shall be.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Mahendra » 20 Aug 2020 01:22

How long before Paxtanis come out with their own riposte to Ertugrul aptly named Bhikarul based on the exploits of Niazi and Bajwa conquering financial markets by employing subterfuge and saving the masses of unwashed Abduls by obtaining loans from competing alliances

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Parasu » 20 Aug 2020 04:12

The TTP was splintered. Now its reunited and raring to go.
The new leader Noor Wali Mehsud is apparently an astute politician, according to this article.
https://www.samaa.tv/news/pakistan/2020 ... li-mehsud/

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby CalvinH » 20 Aug 2020 10:08

In the actions of Imran Khan don't discount the impact of the peerni wifey. I think she promised him Paki PM position and leadership of Islamic world if he marries her. First one has come true. Imran is striving for the second. Quereshi and Army are with him firmly playing both sides with Saudis. Pakis are doing what they know best. Double crossing everyone.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby tsarkar » 20 Aug 2020 10:33

One needs to understand that Arabia was under Ottoman rule a little more than 100 years ago and Lawrence of Arabia and the British helped House of Saud to gain independence for Arabia.

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is viewed with extreme prejudice by Saudi Arabia, UAE and possibly Iran given the long history of Turkish-Persian conflict.

Problem with retards like Pakistanis is that their shortsightedness and irrational obsessions like Kashmir at any cost.

Also Pakistan seeks leadership of the Islamic World that doesnt go well with Saudi's, Iranians and Turks, even though now they want to be sidekicks of the Turks.

Problem for the world is that Pakistan will do irrational acts like 9/11 or Mumbai 2008 or Pulwama 2019 in expectations of grandeur.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Aditya_V » 20 Aug 2020 15:19

Why can't Pakis public ally threaten Saudi with Nukes?

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby chetak » 20 Aug 2020 17:32

Aditya_V wrote:Turkey Mil tech is controlled by Nato, unless Nato clears it like in the past it will not be given to the Pakis. Turkey is yet to make a clean break from Nato.


not entirely true, saar.

tha MIC in turki is almost wholly turki controlled by virtue of physical presense.

the turk turds can export technology, knowhow, tech JVVs and dual use subassemblies, machining paki parts per drawings etc without causing ripples.

the pakis didn't care a hoot for anyone when they stole nuclear tech and sold nuclear tech to rogue countries so why would they feel shy of doing shady business with turkis

BTW, where do you think that the pakis are getting many of their F-16 parts from. wouldn't the cunning pakis already have second sourced the F-16 parts from non ameriki sources to the extent possible

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby darshan » 20 Aug 2020 17:38

Pre-partition Hanuman Mandir razed to the ground in Pakistan: Here is how builder took advantage of lockdown to demolish Temple
https://www.opindia.com/2020/08/pakista ... -lockdown/
A pre-partition Hanuman Mandir in Pakistan’s Lyari district was demolished by a builder on Monday. The next day, the narrow thoroughfare on Fida Hussain Sheikh Road in Lyari where the temple stood until Monday was flooded by dozens of Hindu families after they heard that the Hanuman Mandir had been razed the previous evening. The Karachi Police sealed the construction site after the temple was razed, reports a Pakistan daily, The Express Tribune.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby darshan » 20 Aug 2020 17:51

Hayat Baloch: Dragged and murdered by the Pakistani establishment, with 8 bullets fired point black
https://www.opindia.com/2020/08/murder- ... -army-isi/
On 13th of August 2020, once again the Baloch social media activist started criticising and protesting against the Pakistani paramilitary forces and condemned the killing of another innocent and non-combatant Baloch student Hayat Baloch.

Hayat Baloch an educated young Baloch man of Turbat, Balochistan. Went to his hometown because of the COVID-19 and he was planning once the pandemic ends he will sit in for CSS exams. Unfortunately Hayat Baloch a student of Master’s from Karachi University did not know that the state forces have different ideas about his future and life.

According to reports on 13th of August 2020 on the evening of so-called Pakistan’s Independence Day, Pakistani paramilitary forces (FC) were attacked in Turbat with an IED blast, in response to which FC personnel did what they normally do. They went for the innocent non-combatant civilians and this Hayat Baloch became their target.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby chetak » 20 Aug 2020 17:54

Aditya_V wrote:Why can't Pakis public ally threaten Saudi with Nukes?


for starters, they will be banned from mecca and medina immediately.

their already pathetic green passport will be scrutinized even more distrustfully at immigration check points across the world.

the influential parts of the ummah will gang up on them ASAP, making them pariahs in the eyes of their own kind

the cheeni grip on the tiny paki testimonials will tighten excruciatingly when the pakis cut themselves off from their islamic bankers, isolate themselves from ummah labor markets, and their international remittances drop precipitously making the cheeni hold even more agonizing.

the pakis will be forcefed all things cheeni and soon for the pakis the xinjiang uygur autonomous region (XUAR) will start to look like an islamic paradise :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Vips » 20 Aug 2020 20:54

Aditya_V wrote:Why can't Pakis public ally threaten Saudi with Nukes?


In the past paki commentators have openly said that the Saudis should not be regarded as protectors of Mecca and that the control of Mecca and Medina should be with the general Muslims of the world. That Saudi's should remember that it is Pakistanis who have been protecting them (Brigades in Saudi Arabia) and has its Atomic protection over it! Also how the Monarchy in Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, UAE and Bahrain is not true representative of people. :lol:

Pakis being pakis it is just a matter of time before they start to threaten Saudi Arabia.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Anujan » 20 Aug 2020 21:02

If the Pakistanis want to really get their H&D back and prove themselves as TFTA, they should show Saudis who the boss is, teach them a lesson by forming a new grouping with like minded countries like Malaysia and Iran. They could invite China to be an observer, given its large muslim population in Xingjiang.

Pakistanis should also cut off diplomatic ties with UAE for having recognized Israel. Pakistan should take up the mantle of the Ummah, being among the most populous Ummah countries.

Anything less will unacceptable.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby chetak » 20 Aug 2020 21:22

Anujan wrote:If the Pakistanis want to really get their H&D back and prove themselves as TFTA, they should show Saudis who the boss is, teach them a lesson by forming a new grouping with like minded countries like Malaysia and Iran. They could invite China to be an observer, given its large muslim population in Xingjiang.

Pakistanis should also cut off diplomatic ties with UAE for having recognized Israel. Pakistan should take up the mantle of the Ummah, being among the most populous Ummah countries.

Anything less will unacceptable.


saar,

you forgot to mention the loan that they would have to take to buy the spade with which they would have to first dig a nice deep grave for themselves before embarking on such a journey :mrgreen:

but they have always been a cunning but b@!!le$$ lot.

they also know the danger that they are in from the cheeni serpent that is insidiously and relentlessly coiling itself around the paki body politic while beadily eyeing the aam abdul.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby rsingh » 20 Aug 2020 21:36

Anujan wrote:If the Pakistanis want to really get their H&D back and prove themselves as TFTA, they should show Saudis who the boss is, teach them a lesson by forming a new grouping with like minded countries like Malaysia and Iran. They could invite China to be an observer, given its large muslim population in Xingjiang.

Pakistanis should also cut off diplomatic ties with UAE for having recognized Israel. Pakistan should take up the mantle of the Ummah, being among the most populous Ummah countries.

Anything less will unacceptable.


And prepare to accomodate 4 millions of Bakistani back in bakistan. They are helpless. Bakis are on a slippry slope between well and ditch. both were dug by themselves.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby rsingh » 20 Aug 2020 21:51

tsarkar wrote:One needs to understand that Arabia was under Ottoman rule a little more than 100 years ago and Lawrence of Arabia and the British helped House of Saud to gain independence for Arabia.

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is viewed with extreme prejudice by Saudi Arabia, UAE and possibly Iran given the long history of Turkish-Persian conflict.

Problem with retards like Pakistanis is that their shortsightedness and irrational obsessions like Kashmir at any cost.

Also Pakistan seeks leadership of the Islamic World that doesnt go well with Saudi's, Iranians and Turks, even though now they want to be sidekicks of the Turks.

Problem for the world is that Pakistan will do irrational acts like 9/11 or Mumbai 2008 or Pulwama 2019 in expectations of grandeur.


As I experienced persnaly Turks have same status as Bakistani in CEPAC saga. Turks do cleaning jobs at NATO stations. They do not control any real stuff. Salam. BTW there are some strange activities in Pindi. Some light posts are checked and polished. From your own korespondent. Salam

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Rsatchi » 20 Aug 2020 22:10

Every two bit 'Anal'-'List' on the Saudi relations
https://youtu.be/hJ-3Y8Fz5tQ
https://youtu.be/n_jN3DKCodk
https://youtu.be/AumpDpXOlXM
All trying to put a positive spin and suggesting that Paxitan moving away from Saudi/Unkil axis and towards China/Turkey.
If they move away then who will provide them with High Tech weaponry and free oil
Good if they tilt towards China, they will be turned into a 'Phariah' state like North Korea with no one but China to trade with

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby chetak » 21 Aug 2020 00:47

Pakistan will not recognise Israel: PM imran khan niazi
Israel says thank goodness, otherwise you'd have begged them for funds too
:mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Ashokk » 22 Aug 2020 00:12

Javed Miandad has a change of heart, apologises to Imran Khan :roll:
KARACHI: Doing a volte-face, Pakistan's legendary batsman Javed Miandad on Friday apologised to his former teammate Imran Khan, days after slamming his leadership as the country's Prime Minister.
The rapid change of heart happened after the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) appointed Miandad's nephew, Faisal Iqbal, as one of its head coaches for the domestic teams.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby Nihat » 22 Aug 2020 01:23

Rsatchi wrote:Every two bit 'Anal'-'List' on the Saudi relations
https://youtu.be/hJ-3Y8Fz5tQ
https://youtu.be/n_jN3DKCodk
https://youtu.be/AumpDpXOlXM
All trying to put a positive spin and suggesting that Paxitan moving away from Saudi/Unkil axis and towards China/Turkey.
If they move away then who will provide them with High Tech weaponry and free oil
Good if they tilt towards China, they will be turned into a 'Phariah' state like North Korea with no one but China to trade with


This sort of geo strategic tilt would be great for us. KSA and USA have been a big source of strategic confusion for our policy makers and has had us deal a delicate balancing act for a long long time.

The visit of SMQ to China and all the associated photo op will really annoy the Saudis even more and its not like they need TSP for any purpose (they have enough money to buy the nukes from anywhere)..

China establishing itself as a clear enemy at the gates for us is also good in the long term, as the prospect of peace via appeasement may finally be junked.

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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Postby anmol » 22 Aug 2020 03:07

Shah Mehmood Qureshi slapped Imran's Principal Secretary

Shah Mahmood, Azam Khan, Alleged incident | Talat Hussain
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Who spoiled COAS General Bajwa's Saudi visit. | Razi Naama | Rizwan Razi
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According to the guy in the video above: Americans are remote controlling SMQ through his son (who works for some US Think tank), through SMQ they are provoking Saudis. Americans want Saudis to kick out Paki Army, once pakis are out americans will fill the vacuum. (not 100% sure as the guy is speaking a urdu/punjabi...).

More about SMQ's son:-

Was US Institute of Peace harbouring a Pakistani asset? The case of Moeed Yusuf

C. Christine Fair 3 October, 2019 11:05 am IST | theprint.in

Pakistan has a decent track record of placing its citizens in sensitive posts. Zain Qureshi, son of Shah Mahmood Qureshi who was then the foreign minister under President Asif Ali Zardari, worked for Senator John Kerry as an intern in 2009. Qureshi returned to Pakistan, where his father is now the foreign minister under Prime Minister Imran Khan. Zain Qureshi is now a member of Pakistan’s National Assembly and is currently serving as the federal parliamentary secretary for finance.


Pakistani Foreign Minister's son was Kerry intern
October 20, 2009 | Politico.com
Pakistani newspapers are buzzing with reports that the son of Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi works for Sen. John Kerry, man of the hour in helping resolve Afghanistan's elections dispute.

A spokesman for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee told POLITICO that Zain H. Qureshi has served as an intern in Kerry's personal Senate office. He said it was his understanding that the internship has concluded. He didn't immediately know the duration of Qureshi's work in Kerry's office.

A business card circulating on Pakistani sites describes Zain Qureshi as a legislative fellow in Kerry's Senate office.

Pakistani media are portraying the association between the Pakistani envoy's son and the Senate Foreign Relations committee chair as problematic, and fodder for ongoing Pakistani suspicion about recently passed U.S. legislation that provides for $7.5 billion in US assistance to Pakistan over the next five years. Pakistani military leaders have criticized the "Kerry-Lugar-Berman" bill as attempting to infringe on the South Asian nation's sovereignty. Domestic critics have also portrayed Pakistani civilian leaders including Foreign Minister Qureshi and Ambassador Husain Haqqani as complicit in giving the nod to the legislation.

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Postby Vips » 22 Aug 2020 04:06

Qureshi on his self invited visit to China got a welcome befitting Pakistan's status as a lap dog - Not a single Chinese official (not even a lowly officer from the protocol department) was there to welcome him. Just a couple of abduls from the local porky embassy. Should have seen the body language of the beggar :lol:

I saw a funny youtube clip about it but am not able to find it.

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Postby g.sarkar » 22 Aug 2020 05:08

Did we at BRF miss out on Ertugrul? and its popularity in Pakistan?
https://scroll.in/article/964026/pakist ... ic-history
Pakistan is obsessed with a Turkish drama that glorifies the sword and distorts Islamic history
‘Dirilis: Ertugrul’ reinforces a dangerous delusion celebrating conquest and imperialism.
Pervez Hoodbhoy, Dawn.com, Jun 08, 2020

A Turkish drama series brimming with tribal intrigues, blood, murder, and conquest – all wrapped in pious religious idiom – has taken Pakistan by storm. Filmed in Anatolia, Dirilis: Ertugrul is a 150-episode fictional account of Ertugrul Ghazi, father of the Ottoman Empire’s founder. As of June 5, the YouTube count for the 30th Urdu-dubbed episode had already clocked up 5.5 million views on Pakistan Television.
Even those who made Dirilis are astonished – and hugely pleased – at its tumultuous welcome. Tribal Turkmen fighting for a homeland can’t be expected to capture the imagination of millions in some far-off country. But Pakistan is different. Transfixed, entire families are spending evenings watching it together. They think it is wholesome entertainment and genuine Islamic history.
What history? This is a free-wheeling caricature of 13th-century Anatolia of which we know next to nothing. Facts are not important, says Mehmet Bozdag, the man who wrote and produced the series. To quote: “There is very little information about the period we are presenting – not exceeding four [to] five pages. Even the names are different in every source. The first works written about the establishment of the Ottoman State were about 100-150 years later. There is no certainty in this historical data...we are shaping a story by dreaming.”
That this serial is frankly propagandistic and ideologically motivated is beyond doubt. It has been manufactured for a purpose. But what purpose?
If it seeks to project Islam as a religion of peace and to counter Islamophobia, then the very opposite is achieved. The first scene of the first episode begins with sword-making and sword-sharpening in the background of nomadic tents. The tribe’s adversaries are Christians and Byzantines whose bloodied bodies lie scattered here and there after every fight. The hero, Ertugrul Ghazi, not only beheads several Knight Templars but also former associates from his tribe, such as Kurdoglu Bey, who he suspects of disloyalty.
Should we be surprised if IS-like organisations find this inspirational? Is glorifying the sword glorifying Islam? Islam can surely be represented in ways more positive than putting a spotlight on power struggles within a tribal society. Far better, for example, would be to build upon Turkish scholars like Ali Qushgi, Taqi-al-Din, or Al-Jazari. Without Islam’s early scholars the colorful tapestry of Muslim culture – and Turkish culture as well – would have been far poorer, its claim to being a great world civilisation weak and unconvincing.
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Gautam
PS anything PH writes is tinged with Pak colors.
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Postby souravB » 22 Aug 2020 07:55

^^Secularism with Paki characteristics.


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