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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby krishna_krishna » 07 Jan 2020 07:28

Given the current agitation name of PFI (Popular front of India)comes over and over again everywhere . There agenda from instigating Dalits against upper castes to combining them into oppressed Class (Dalits, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians). If you see BIF media posts all of them have one theme in common "Oppressed classes of The dalits, the tribals, the religious, the linguistic and cultural minorities". PFI as an entity is the bulwark of BIF, this is the spearhead.Something that I observed is behind JNU ,AMU and pan India protests which BFI forces claim somehow got mysterious support from Columbia and Oxford universities have PFI in India. It is another SIMI in the making.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 07 Jan 2020 07:35

Eklavya all that is happening.

https://twitter.com/saurabh3vedi/status ... 93824?s=19

Delhi Police has filed a FIR against JNUSU President Aishe Ghosh and 19 others for attacking security guards and vandalising server room on January 4. The complaint was filed by JNU administration. 
#JNUattack


PFI is rebadged SIMI which is the Muslim student wing of Congress.
its armed wing is Indian Mujahdeen.

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Postby Vikas » 07 Jan 2020 10:02

Stop watching TV news and Twitter, You will find that rest of the India is going about their work silently and diligently. This nonsense of protest is for the professionals or people seeking free PR'ship.
We still are a very poor country to indulge in Dharna and burning buses on daily basis.
Already US-Iran crisis has taken over Muslim/Commie community which apparently is on the forefront of this destruction and mayhem and US is the biggest Satan for them. As many have said here, This whole anti-CAA has added one more rift in inter-communal relations.

What now happens to mandatory 75% attendance for students to appear in college exams ?

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Postby Vikas » 07 Jan 2020 10:04

VenkataS wrote:
OmkarC wrote:Further investigation of a post from Shanknad:

JNU occupies a total of 1019.38 acres of land (ref: https://www.jnu.ac.in/sites/default/files/FactSheet.pdf) in a region of India, where the cost of sq ft is ~Rs.13,000/-, that Univ is alone sitting on a real estate of 5 or 6 lakh crores !!


You are a little off in your calculation. JNU real estate is worth about 50,000 to 60,000 crore (from the figures you gave). However this is a substantial sum.

You could sell the land where JNU sits on currently and move the University to a more nationalistic place for a fraction of that cost (maybe 2000 crores) and appoint a retired Indian army officer/general as a VC.

You could in-fact, by selling the land that JNU sits on, do one of these three things which will be awesome from a national perspective:
1. Create 30 universities of national importance geographically spread throughout India.
2. Invest that sum in eliminating illiteracy (including adult illiteracy) in India.
3. Invest that sum in improving primary and secondary school infrastructure (and/or teacher salaries) with the aim of helping every child complete at least 12 years of education.


Raze JNU/AMU and create Sulabh Shauchalaya in its place. Anyways what comes out of JNU/AMU these days is plain $hit.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby arvin » 07 Jan 2020 10:06

VenkataS wrote:
You could sell the land where JNU sits on currently and move the University to a more nationalistic place for a fraction of that cost (maybe 2000 crores) and appoint a retired Indian army officer/general as a VC.

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No place apt than Dantewada or gadchiroli in central india considering the ideological leanings of the profs and kids there. Will also get real life experience of teachings put into practice.
That place should be sold off and money used for free primary education.

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Postby Vikas » 07 Jan 2020 10:19

krishna_krishna wrote:Given the current agitation name of PFI (Popular front of India)comes over and over again everywhere . There agenda from instigating Dalits against upper castes to combining them into oppressed Class (Dalits, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians). If you see BIF media posts all of them have one theme in common "Oppressed classes of The dalits, the tribals, the religious, the linguistic and cultural minorities". PFI as an entity is the bulwark of BIF, this is the spearhead.Something that I observed is behind JNU ,AMU and pan India protests which BFI forces claim somehow got mysterious support from Columbia and Oxford universities have PFI in India. It is another SIMI in the making.


This plan has been in making since the days of Brits. Now the cudgels have been taken up by American univ. humanities dept.
Somehow they want to separate Dalits and Tribals from rest of Hindus to create one more entity and weaken Hindus mortally. It is now common to write Hindus and Dalits. No one ever writes Muslims and Shia or Xtian and protestants.

Sadly Nehru and those who followed him played right into the hands of BIF.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby eklavya » 07 Jan 2020 10:42

ramana wrote:Eklavya all that is happening.

https://twitter.com/saurabh3vedi/status ... 93824?s=19

Delhi Police has filed a FIR against JNUSU President Aishe Ghosh and 19 others for attacking security guards and vandalising server room on January 4. The complaint was filed by JNU administration. 
#JNUattack




#JNUattack has this tweet, and a video

https://twitter.com/itssinghswati/statu ... 8498419712


Right wing outfit called ‘Hindu Raksha Dal’ takes responsibility of #JNUattack & says will keep doing such attacks in future..



What should one make of this?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 07 Jan 2020 11:03

eklavya wrote:
ramana wrote:Eklavya all that is happening.




What should one make of this?


When a outfit about which no one ever has heard claims something, It usually is a ploy. The word Hindu in it was a obvious giveaway.

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Postby Santosh » 07 Jan 2020 11:16

Delhi elections are a month away. There is a strong urge to show Delhi walas how Hindu orgs are Bad and Secular orgs are good. Reminds me of Shri Ram Sene crap and fake church attacks in Karnataka after BSY govt was first formed.

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Postby Aditya_V » 07 Jan 2020 11:40

Looks to be working, I think INC and AP are going to corner 70 seats . The left/BIF are able to manufacture an outrage before every elections .

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 07 Jan 2020 12:34

Santosh wrote:Delhi elections are a month away. There is a strong urge to show Delhi walas how Hindu orgs are Bad and Secular orgs are good. Reminds me of Shri Ram Sene crap and fake church attacks in Karnataka after BSY govt was first formed.

Yes, the Hindu Raksha Dal is the new Sri Ram Sene of new Delhi. Looks like the "seculars" knew that police is slowly figuring out the actual folks who triggered the riots. And when the investigation was leading towards the commies & jehadis promptly this pro-Hindu outfit stakes claim. Now before police finishes their investigation, the main stream media would go to the town talking about this new Hindu outfit. As the proverb goes - Lie travels the world, even before Truth puts on its slippers.

Came back to say: The arrival of Hindu Raksha Dal had to be now. Because slowly in social media the fact that the commies got a solid thrashing was getting popular. And also the fact that many commies were only wearing false bandages/arm slings was also becoming known. One example was a KL based commie who was shown first wearing arm slings, then wearing a head bandage; and then the next day morning lands in Thiruvananthapuram airport perfectly fine (with not even a single bandage, or arm sling).

Aditya_V wrote:Looks to be working, I think INC and AP are going to corner 70 seats . The left/BIF are able to manufacture an outrage before every elections .

General impression is that AAP would retain new Delhi. Their freebie system has many takers in New Delhi. Again, but I feel it is because of AAP's political game plan that they may retain new Delhi. And it is NOT because of JNU "revolutionary uncle & aunties" and other freeloaders.

Vikas wrote:Stop watching TV news and Twitter, You will find that rest of the India is going about their work silently and diligently. This nonsense of protest is for the professionals or people seeking free PR'ship.

Exactly!! This entire charade is actually being hyped up. The main stream media is the "force multiplier" of the BIF gang, that is all. JNU, AMU, Jadavpur Uni and some riff-raff KL based universities do NOT make the whole of India. For 10% riots in these areas there is a big 90% of India where life is absolutely going on as normal.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby eklavya » 07 Jan 2020 13:37

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/fir-fil ... sm-2159812

University officials have claimed a group of students, led by Ms Ghosh - who is President of the students union and Saket Moon - who is Vice President - broke into the server room on Friday and vandalised servers to hamper registration ahead of the winter semester.

Officials said they sought to restore servers but "miscreants" re-entered around 1 pm on Saturday and again damaged them. Servers were restored for a second time around 4 pm, university officials said.

JNU Students Union hit back and said the university administration used "masked" security guards to destroy the server room and attack students. "They were shamefully wearing masks. JNUSU president was openly slapped," the JNUSU had alleged.


University officials and JNUSU are accusing each other of destroying university property. The judicial process needs to establish the facts here. Whoever has done this should not be allowed to “get away with it”.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nandakumar » 07 Jan 2020 14:31

VenkataS wrote:
OmkarC wrote:Further investigation of a post from Shanknad:

JNU occupies a total of 1019.38 acres of land (ref: https://www.jnu.ac.in/sites/default/files/FactSheet.pdf) in a region of India, where the cost of sq ft is ~Rs.13,000/-, that Univ is alone sitting on a real estate of 5 or 6 lakh crores !!


You are a little off in your calculation. JNU real estate is worth about 50,000 to 60,000 crore (from the figures you gave). However this is a substantial sum.

You could sell the land where JNU sits on currently and move the University to a more nationalistic place for a fraction of that cost (maybe 2000 crores) and appoint a retired Indian army officer/general as a VC.

You could in-fact, by selling the land that JNU sits on, do one of these three things which will be awesome from a national perspective:
1. Create 30 universities of national importance geographically spread throughout India.
2. Invest that sum in eliminating illiteracy (including adult illiteracy) in India.
3. Invest that sum in improving primary and secondary school infrastructure (and/or teacher salaries) with the aim of helping every child complete at least 12 years of education.

The background to the setting up of JNU is this. The violent peasant uprising in Naxalbari in 1969 was put down with brute force. But Indira Gandhi was perturbed by the fact that the movement was orchestrated by Leftist leaning students from West Bengal whose members kept the burning embers of a revolution going long after the event was crushed. One of my acquaintances in later years, a brilliant student and a JC Bose scholar in his college days was a student activist of the Naxalite movement and was jailed during Emergency. His brilliant career in Science was thus nipped in the bud. He could not complete his studies after the Emergency was lifted. Poor chap, enrolled as a student of the Chartered Accountancy Course (about the only serious option available for advancement in life who are unable to complete a undergraduate degree). His troubles did not end there. Despite passing the tough professional exam with flying colours (He was among the top 25 students all of India, passing out in that year) all lucrative offers from Private sector such as the Levers, ITC etc were withdrawn once they knew of his revolutionary background. He was fortunate enough to land a job with a public sector company at a fraction of the salary that he would have got if he had had any offers from Brook Bond, ITC and the like. I mention this because he was by the standard of those days was one who got a lucky break. But there were many others who couldn't make the cut and join the mainstream of society. More importantly the environment was still fertile enough for the revolutionary pipeline to provide a steady stream of students. Mrs Gandhi was astute enough to realise that while the Naxalbari movement was crushed a plan had to be devised to wean them away from the toxic revolutionary atmosphere prevailing in the country then, and somehow mainstream them into the cocoons of establishment comfort. Thus was born the JNU. It absorbed all the students of a particular type. Provided them with all the comforts of a secure environment at practically zero cost so that they don't incite the docile peasants in the hinterland! More importantly they could be kept under the watchful eyes of the Central government. They did their post graduation and doctoral programmes join civil service or think tanks or even join as academics in JNU itself and in short create self sustaining ecosystem. They could sustain their revolutionary fervour inside the campus but don't spread unrest among the masses. No cost or effort was spared to keep it going all these years.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 07 Jan 2020 16:34

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 135435.cms
And Lo ji listen to the lame excuse and explanation for 'Free kashmir' banner!!
The Pissfuls are hurting badly and hence all this shit!!!
And the '15-min police hatao phir dheko' will also come back to bite them.

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Postby Vikas » 07 Jan 2020 17:00

Rsatchi wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/under-fire-mumbai-girl-says-sorry-for-free-kashmir-placard/articleshow/73135435.cms
And Lo ji listen to the lame excuse and explanation for 'Free kashmir' banner!!
The Pissfuls are hurting badly and hence all this shit!!!
And the '15-min police hatao phir dheko' will also come back to bite them.


We all know what 'Free Kashmir' means.

Honestly I don't think any Pissful is hurting. They are becoming more aggressive and violent. With SS too in pocket and lure of 5 years of CMship, who is going to go against them in Mumbai. I am expecting serious demand for another Partition in next 10 years and guess what, Lot of Hindus will be defending the demand.

By the way, The big Kahuna Sanjay Raut of Shiv Sena fame, the party of Balasaheb was defending this poster. Tells you something about Green Chaddi underneath Saffron Pajama. Don't be surprised if they actually remove the police for 15 min for oh-so-innocents.

Speaking to the media, Sena’s Sanjay Raut said the poster indicated that the Valley wanted freedom from internet bans and other restrictions that were placed on the state ahead of the government’s decision to abrogate Article 370.


https://www.news18.com/news/politics/after-fadnavis-slams-free-kashmir-poster-at-mumbai-rally-for-jnu-students-ex-ally-sanjay-raut-explains-2448523.html

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby hanumadu » 07 Jan 2020 19:53

ON the c voter poll giving 62 to AAP.

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26% voteshare to BJP?
Even in deep abyss of 2015 with HUGE Kejriwal wave, BJP won 32-33% voteshare. So I don't buy that poll. Logically Kejriwal should lose at the back of non performance, poisoned water, support to riots, but you never know Delhites





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Delhi BJP seats based on Chief Minister Candidates.
Dr. Harsvardhan 0-10
Vijay Goel 11-20
Vijay Gupta 21-30
Manoj Tiwari 31-35
Pravesh Verma 36-40
Kapil Mishra 41-45
Meenakshi Lekhi 45+
Anyone else - 30-40

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sanjayc » 07 Jan 2020 20:44

nandakumar wrote:The background to the setting up of JNU is this. The violent peasant uprising in Naxalbari in 1969 was put down with brute force. But Indira Gandhi was perturbed by the fact that the movement was orchestrated by Leftist leaning students from West Bengal whose members kept the burning embers of a revolution going long after the event was crushed. One of my acquaintances in later years, a brilliant student and a JC Bose scholar in his college days was a student activist of the Naxalite movement and was jailed during Emergency. His brilliant career in Science was thus nipped in the bud. He could not complete his studies after the Emergency was lifted. Poor chap, enrolled as a student of the Chartered Accountancy Course (about the only serious option available for advancement in life who are unable to complete a undergraduate degree). His troubles did not end there. Despite passing the tough professional exam with flying colours (He was among the top 25 students all of India, passing out in that year) all lucrative offers from Private sector such as the Levers, ITC etc were withdrawn once they knew of his revolutionary background. He was fortunate enough to land a job with a public sector company at a fraction of the salary that he would have got if he had had any offers from Brook Bond, ITC and the like. I mention this because he was by the standard of those days was one who got a lucky break. But there were many others who couldn't make the cut and join the mainstream of society. More importantly the environment was still fertile enough for the revolutionary pipeline to provide a steady stream of students. Mrs Gandhi was astute enough to realise that while the Naxalbari movement was crushed a plan had to be devised to wean them away from the toxic revolutionary atmosphere prevailing in the country then, and somehow mainstream them into the cocoons of establishment comfort. Thus was born the JNU. It absorbed all the students of a particular type. Provided them with all the comforts of a secure environment at practically zero cost so that they don't incite the docile peasants in the hinterland! More importantly they could be kept under the watchful eyes of the Central government. They did their post graduation and doctoral programmes join civil service or think tanks or even join as academics in JNU itself and in short create self sustaining ecosystem. They could sustain their revolutionary fervour inside the campus but don't spread unrest among the masses. No cost or effort was spared to keep it going all these years.


As per my understanding, Indira Gandhi did not have full majority and took the support of communists to form the Govt. They laid down two conditions for support: (i) Creation of JNU where they will be left free to propagate their ideology, poison the mind of youngsters to turn them into revolutionaries and facilitate their infiltration into civil services and media; and insertion of the words "socialist and secular" into the preamble of the Constitution. Parliamentary democracy is harmful to a fractured society like India. Two party system would have been much better as it avoids anarchy and weak leadership dependent on support from fringe elements

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 07 Jan 2020 21:09

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1214435251759374336
ANI @ANI

A special court in Chennai dismisses pleas moved by Congress leader Karti Chidambaram and his wife seeking to discharge them from prosecution initiated by the Income Tax Department for alleged non-disclosure of income of over Rs 7 crores for the financial year 2015-16. (file pic)

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 07 Jan 2020 21:16

What's with some of first time BJP MP's.
Gautam G is with Laxman on Nerolac cricket.
Now the secular/leftist media will have go at him for being out of Delhi when the JNU crisis is going on? :shock:
Like that MP from Bhopal why do these people invite criticism and trouble
Yes seats given because of winnability but the selection committee should also do some basic psychometric test for some these people so that they don't become liability in the long run!!!(I know I am going out on a limb here) :D

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 07 Jan 2020 21:26

Ekalavya:

University officials and JNUSU are accusing each other of destroying university property. The judicial process needs to establish the facts here. Whoever has done this should not be allowed to “get away with it”.


Do you find JNSU credible?
Yes the police investigation of the FIR will lead to the perpetrators being unmasked.

I think VC was trying to be friends to snakes in JNU when he did not take action after the protests in November.

RSatchi,
Many Primadonna MPs have swollen head weight. There is nothing more useless than the air purifier gimmick that Gautam Gambhir installed.
Quite shallow thinking.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 07 Jan 2020 22:18

ramana wrote:Yes the police investigation of the FIR will lead to the perpetrators being unmasked.

This sudden arrival of some Hindu Maha... outfit to take responsibility is an indicator for that. Now this story would be tom tommed by the main stream media, where as the lengthy police procedure would take time to complete. Any way legalese like FIR and charge sheets etc are not at all in the familiar domain of the common man.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 07 Jan 2020 22:29

Sachin, No body is after you unlike before 2014.

Why cant you post what you want to say?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 07 Jan 2020 23:32

sanjayc wrote:
nandakumar wrote:The background to the setting up of JNU is this. The violent peasant uprising in Naxalbari in 1969 was put down with brute force. But Indira Gandhi was perturbed by the fact that the movement was orchestrated by Leftist leaning students from West Bengal whose members kept the burning embers of a revolution going long after the event was crushed. One of my acquaintances in later years, a brilliant student and a JC Bose scholar in his college days was a student activist of the Naxalite movement and was jailed during Emergency. His brilliant career in Science was thus nipped in the bud. He could not complete his studies after the Emergency was lifted. Poor chap, enrolled as a student of the Chartered Accountancy Course (about the only serious option available for advancement in life who are unable to complete a undergraduate degree). His troubles did not end there. Despite passing the tough professional exam with flying colours (He was among the top 25 students all of India, passing out in that year) all lucrative offers from Private sector such as the Levers, ITC etc were withdrawn once they knew of his revolutionary background. He was fortunate enough to land a job with a public sector company at a fraction of the salary that he would have got if he had had any offers from Brook Bond, ITC and the like. I mention this because he was by the standard of those days was one who got a lucky break. But there were many others who couldn't make the cut and join the mainstream of society. More importantly the environment was still fertile enough for the revolutionary pipeline to provide a steady stream of students. Mrs Gandhi was astute enough to realise that while the Naxalbari movement was crushed a plan had to be devised to wean them away from the toxic revolutionary atmosphere prevailing in the country then, and somehow mainstream them into the cocoons of establishment comfort. Thus was born the JNU. It absorbed all the students of a particular type. Provided them with all the comforts of a secure environment at practically zero cost so that they don't incite the docile peasants in the hinterland! More importantly they could be kept under the watchful eyes of the Central government. They did their post graduation and doctoral programmes join civil service or think tanks or even join as academics in JNU itself and in short create self sustaining ecosystem. They could sustain their revolutionary fervour inside the campus but don't spread unrest among the masses. No cost or effort was spared to keep it going all these years.


As per my understanding, Indira Gandhi did not have full majority and took the support of communists to form the Govt. They laid down two conditions for support: (i) Creation of JNU where they will be left free to propagate their ideology, poison the mind of youngsters to turn them into revolutionaries and facilitate their infiltration into civil services and media; and insertion of the words "socialist and secular" into the preamble of the Constitution. Parliamentary democracy is harmful to a fractured society like India. Two party system would have been much better as it avoids anarchy and weak leadership dependent on support from fringe elements

https://www.outlookindia.com/videos/jnu ... ghosh/3317
Here U go sir right on que, they are claiming it as their home :roll:
Free education and can take 10 yrs to complete post-graduation and take another decade for PhD!!
Wish I could do a PhD on Sexual behaviour of some African tribe and get a MP ticket :lol: :lol:

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Postby Vikas » 07 Jan 2020 23:45

JNU might not be the only place for Free education and 10 yrs to complete post-graduation and another decade for PhD!! There are other worthy contenders too but don't get the limelight or focus by commies.

Most of the Indian University system for higher Ed is rotten to the core and I have seen it first hand.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 07 Jan 2020 23:50

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... Nn-EjF4TTv
Here is another concerned 'Phoren Lady' but this time it is 'Brahminical terrorism'
No religion for'T' but sure has a the caste!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Wonder which 'Gotra' it belongs to sire :roll:

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 07 Jan 2020 23:57

I think there will be a clean up of JNU eventually.
Both faculty that is unable to guide their students in less than 8 years and students who have setup permanent camp.
Both have to be purged.
Immediate action will be to clean out hostels and reassign rooms randomly to prevent gangs being re-formed.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 07 Jan 2020 23:59

Note how as #Bhaiwood is unable to rally protests big names are being parachuted.
Now Deepika Padukone is among the protesters in Delhi.

Ahmed Patel is pulling all the ropes.
Strings are not enough.

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Postby CRamS » 08 Jan 2020 00:02

Guys, I am pretty sure a seasoned statesman and politician like ModiJi does not need my advice, but giving it anyway. As we see low-IQ spoilt brat Bollywood bimbos like Deepika Padukone, Swara Bhaskarr etc, cheered on by equally colonized brain dead Bombis sans the good looks like Burka Bibi, would it not have been an awesome gesture, and also a grand PR coup d'tat had ModiJi tweeted and commiserated with Nirbhaya's mother on the day when the rapist killers of her daughter were convicted to be hanged?

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Postby ramana » 08 Jan 2020 00:06

No. That would mean the justice system is under political influence.
No wonder he does not need our advice.
Her mother knows the sentence would not have been carried out if UPA was in power.
See how long the judiciary dragged the sentence matter?
If earlier justices were still there same dragging on would go on.

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Postby SandeepA » 08 Jan 2020 00:10

With stronger PR (presstitutes, bollywood pimps etc) on its side it is increasingly looking like BIF is winning this round. Something big and decisive from MSD is overdue.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby madhu » 08 Jan 2020 00:17

krishna_krishna wrote:Given the current agitation name of PFI (Popular front of India)comes over and over again everywhere . There agenda from instigating Dalits against upper castes to combining them into oppressed Class (Dalits, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians). If you see BIF media posts all of them have one theme in common "Oppressed classes of The dalits, the tribals, the religious, the linguistic and cultural minorities". PFI as an entity is the bulwark of BIF, this is the spearhead.Something that I observed is behind JNU ,AMU and pan India protests which BFI forces claim somehow got mysterious support from Columbia and Oxford universities have PFI in India. It is another SIMI in the making.


Can we have a separate thread just collect a targeted list of organization's ( both jihadi and BIF) , Posts, pamphlets affiliation etc?
That can become a good repository for decoding their agenda. Any material collected in the discussion thread will get buried.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby vishvak » 08 Jan 2020 00:43

and facilitate their infiltration into civil services and media; and insertion of the words "socialist and secular" into the preamble of the Constitution

The revolutionary movement that never questioned anything anti hindoo. Then the pseudo-lefty would call upon young people feom jihadi gang, and made every one look bad; soon there will be only one way to look bright and 'better' ie mombatti way.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby CRamS » 08 Jan 2020 00:48

ramana wrote:No. That would mean the justice system is under political influence.


RamanaGaru, this would have been after the verdict though. So how would that be political influence. And in any case, if he were accused of that, he can claim it was a positive influence to bring justice to women as opposed to Italian queen madam and Co who did nothing.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 08 Jan 2020 01:09

Even now the carrying out the sentence is still part of judiciary system.
The drama is the SC has already said the sentence is correct.
Then the appeals start and go through the same courts and once again they confirm the verdict.
Once accusation is made with the media and opposition bias there wont be any let up.
No need to step on unnecessary landmines.

I think we should start trending #BoycottBhaiwood in SM.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby V_Raman » 08 Jan 2020 01:39

I have lost track of what they are fighting for now! CAA rollback? No one is considering that seriously. Maybe to impress upon SC when it takes up CAA review?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby OmkarC » 08 Jan 2020 02:04

sanjayc wrote:As per my understanding, Indira Gandhi did not have full majority and took the support of communists to form the Govt. They laid down two conditions for support: (i) Creation of JNU where they will be left free to propagate their ideology, poison the mind of youngsters to turn them into revolutionaries and facilitate their infiltration into civil services and media; and insertion of the words "socialist and secular" into the preamble of the Constitution. Parliamentary democracy is harmful to a fractured society like India. Two party system would have been much better as it avoids anarchy and weak leadership dependent on support from fringe elements


I had the same thoughts I shared in another forum.. can we at BRF have a detailed discussion of what it takes to transition to a two party system ? make a proposal and send to NaMo App and other key figures. Mods, what do you think, can it merit a separate thread ?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 08 Jan 2020 02:18

OmkarC wrote:
sanjayc wrote:As per my understanding, Indira Gandhi did not have full majority and took the support of communists to form the Govt. They laid down two conditions for support: (i) Creation of JNU where they will be left free to propagate their ideology, poison the mind of youngsters to turn them into revolutionaries and facilitate their infiltration into civil services and media; and insertion of the words "socialist and secular" into the preamble of the Constitution. Parliamentary democracy is harmful to a fractured society like India. Two party system would have been much better as it avoids anarchy and weak leadership dependent on support from fringe elements


I had the same thoughts I shared in another forum.. can we at BRF have a detailed discussion of what it takes to transition to a two party system ? make a proposal and send to NaMo App and other key figures. Mods, what do you think, can it merit a separate thread ?

Two questions.
What we have is de-facto two party system its Congress and its many breakaway parties vs BJP.
It never was a multiple party system. All the regional parties are regional satraps who broke away from Congress to preserve their fiefdoms. TN is different but even there the two rivals align with Congress or BJP.
As for Communists, they are defeated ideologically everywhere expect in rich media.
In Kerala the CPM is basically a caste party. Nothing Communist about them.
And truly speaking its the socialist moles in Congress that forced her hand. She didn't care much form the Communists.


What has NaMo got to do with it?
it would be considered totalitarian to impose two party system and in effect prevents #CongressMukthBharat!
And that's is going full steam ahead.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby OmkarC » 08 Jan 2020 07:50

ramana wrote:
OmkarC wrote:
I had the same thoughts I shared in another forum.. can we at BRF have a detailed discussion of what it takes to transition to a two party system ? make a proposal and send to NaMo App and other key figures. Mods, what do you think, can it merit a separate thread ?

Two questions.
What we have is de-facto two party system its Congress and its many breakaway parties vs BJP.
It never was a multiple party system. All the regional parties are regional satraps who broke away from Congress to preserve their fiefdoms. TN is different but even there the two rivals align with Congress or BJP.
As for Communists, they are defeated ideologically everywhere expect in rich media.
In Kerala the CPM is basically a caste party. Nothing Communist about them.
And truly speaking its the socialist moles in Congress that forced her hand. She didn't care much form the Communists.


What has NaMo got to do with it?
it would be considered totalitarian to impose two party system and in effect prevents #CongressMukthBharat!
And that's is going full steam ahead.



I think we need to speculate what would be an ideal political scenario for Bharatvarsh. An ideal scenario could mean constitutionally limiting democratic alternatives and also defining what the two alternatives need to be. Not sure how this is totalitarian, as long as people are offered a democratic choice. Let all the commies, urban naxals, EJs & jihadi lovers fight among each other in their allotted political space and force that block to become more centrist, as post-poll or pre-poll "alliances" will no longer be possible in a binary system and not just "my caste/region"+Minority block votes will matter to each political entity.. Majority's votes will then become quite valuable.

Right now, priority must be to stop anarchists & communists from taking over institutions and continuing to secure political power.. they cannot be fought tactically in a reactionary manner, which will lead to group/mob violence, which will only result in degrading the country into anarchy.. being apathetic will continue to embolden them.. we have a messed up internal atmosphere created by them that's poisoning youth and developing a derisive attitude towards their culture & nation. There may be disagreements on the extent of this rot, but I hope we all agree that this rotexists and it needs to be stemmed.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby SriKumar » 08 Jan 2020 08:13

OmkarC wrote: I had the same thoughts I shared in another forum.. can we at BRF have a detailed discussion of what it takes to transition to a two party system ? make a proposal and send to NaMo App and other key figures. Mods, what do you think, can it merit a separate thread ?
Just as an FYI, though it appears that way, US does not officially have a 2-party system. Third parties can come up and they have in the past. Back in the day, there used to be a Whig party which won 4 US president elections. It slowly died out and Democrat party came into play. Even in modern times, Ross Perot started a 3rd party- United We Stand; and Ralph NAder had his own party- dunno what it is called. Both these tiny parties had a a HUGE effect on the respective US election (1992 and 2000) with the result that the 2 big parties are common in their desire to squish any third party coming up- by not debating with it. Keeping the third party squashed petty much guarantees power alternating between the 2 parties and both are happy.

In India it is almost impossible now to bring it down to a 2-party system. The jinn has come out of the bothal. The MPs from all parties except the big 2, will have to vote in favor of the bill killing their own party- will not happen. If such a proposal were to be made, some people might well start another party (!) to oppose this move. :lol:. Its a million mutinies now...and every man a party.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Hari Seldon » 08 Jan 2020 09:46

Amending the Representation of people Act can be done with simple majority in parliament.

An amendment that says that should the winner in a first-past the post poll in any constituency secure less than a third of the votes cast, then a runoff poll between the top-2 will be held by EC.

Will prevent fringe elements, counterfeit same-name candidates, 2-bit parties etc from playing spoiler at every hat drop.

Also, its a good first step since in most places where there are 2 cornered fights (e.g., MP, GJ, RJ etc) above wouldn't apply anyway. And where it would apply (MH, UP, HR, WB etc) it can be beneficial only.

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