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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshan » 20 Oct 2020 23:08

GoI in general needs to encourage less sugar in diet and less sugarcane fields. Need to go back to roots and grow varieties of native to each areas to improve health of local consumer.

Higher Sugar Output Projection Is Bitter News For Modi Government: It May Have To Incentivise Exports Again
https://swarajyamag.com/business/higher ... orts-again
The sugar industry will once again look towards the Centre for succour as it will likely produce at least four million tonnes (mt) sugar more this season (October 2020-September 2021) compared with last season.

The Indian Sugar Mills Association's (ISMA) preliminary estimates show that India could produce 31 mt of sugar against 27.4 mt last season. The 31 mt is after making allowance for the production of ethanol, which could have otherwise resulted in an additional production of 2 mt of sugar.

ISMA made the estimate after a second survey based on the satellite mapping of the areas under sugarcane in the first week of this month. As per the survey, the total area under sugarcane this year is 5.27 million hectares (mh) against 4.84 mh a year ago, up 9 per cent.

According to the survey, the area under sugarcane in Maharashtra has increased 48 per cent following good rains during north-east monsoon last year and south-west monsoon this year.
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Postby vijayk » 21 Oct 2020 00:01

anyone from UP or living there - What is the general mood on Yogi Govt?

Islamists like Seema Mustafa and Dienasty dogs have started whisper campaign that OBC, Brahmins, SC/ST, Yadavs are all in revolt. Can someone comment?

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Postby george » 21 Oct 2020 00:43

chetak wrote:France To Expel 231 Radicalized Foreigners In A Sweeping Crackdown Two Days After An Islamist Brutally Beheaded A Teacher



France defines extremists as “people who, engaged in a process of radicalisation, are likely to want to go abroad to join terrorist groups or take part in terrorist activities”.

Out of 231 foreigners in the File of Alerts for the Prevention of Terrorist Attacks (FSPRT) who will be deported , 180 people are currently in prison and 51 were due to be arrested in the next hours. More than 850 illegal immigrants are registered to the FSPRT.


That'll show them! :P

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Postby KLNMurthy » 21 Oct 2020 02:31

darshan wrote:Imagine going to this civilizational war with cadre full of sulkers. No wonder BIF continues to thrive.

BJP placates sulking MLA Govind Parmar who had announced his decision to resign
https://www.deshgujarat.com/2020/10/19/ ... to-resign/


Realities of war. Achilles, MacArthur were famous sulkers. As were the Velama (IIRC) units in the Battle of Orugallu (Warangal) vs. the Tughlaq armies.

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Postby Ambar » 21 Oct 2020 02:58

chetak wrote:
Ambar wrote:Congress' motormouth spokesman Rajiv Tyagi passed away from a massive cardiac arrest at the age of 50. At 5 PM he was on Aaj Tak screaming his lungs off at BJP's Sambit Patra and by 7 PM he was dead. Such is life !

In other news actor Sanjay Dutt is reported to have lung cancer, and though his choice of care was in the US, US denied his entry due his prior conviction in India, so he is heading to Singapore for treatment.


we are being taken for a ride.

stage 3 cancer is never diagnosed so late in a celebrity like this convicted criminal.


One is very sure that the fact that a film in which he is starring is due to release soon has nothing to do with this "news"

these are the vultures of bollywood who prey upon the corpses of their "stars" to make money.

no need for anyone to guess who the director of this film is. :mrgreen:

it's the khattarpanthi jehadi and urban naxal magesh butt.


Chetakji, you were absolute spot on ! ABP News now says Sanjay Dutt is miraculously cancer-free just after 2 months of saying he has stage 3 lung cancer !

https://news.abplive.com/entertainment/ ... al-1368565

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Postby V_Raman » 21 Oct 2020 03:26

The migrant crisis might turn out to be a negative turning point in state level electoral fortunes of BJP...

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Postby chetak » 21 Oct 2020 06:06

V_Raman wrote:The migrant crisis might turn out to be a negative turning point in state level electoral fortunes of BJP...






didn't the state govts handle the migrant movements.

The center provided the trains when needed/asked for

the migrant as well as the covid crisis in bihar is being placed at nitishwa's door, and deservedly so.

Either they deal with what is reality or they can be sure that the reality is going to deal with them ~ Alex Haley

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Postby Ambar » 21 Oct 2020 07:03

It all comes down to messaging and BJP sucks at it. Yes, Nitishwa is a dud, in some of his speeches he takes pride in the fact that wealthy states rely on Bihari migrant workers. He has failed to create a Bihar that can provide employment to its youth, food security to its impoverished and an environment that can attract investment, that said Lalu will be 100x worse for the state. BJP and Govt of India needs to look at Sonu Sood how slick advertisement and marketing works, his contribution compared to the monumental effort of GoI during this crisis is negligible, but yet he ensured his name is trumpeted so loud that people think it was only Sonu Sood who helped while the govt twiddled its thumb.

RJD and Jr Lalu is running a campaign based on employment and anti-incumbency, there is a good chance they'll bag more seats than the previous election but i doubt if they can form a govt on their own. If BJP or RJD ends with the highest number of seats, it is game over for Niteshwa's ambitions and his political future.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nandakumar » 21 Oct 2020 09:47

darshan wrote:GoI in general needs to encourage less sugar in diet and less sugarcane fields. Need to go back to roots and grow varieties of native to each areas to improve health of local consumer.

Higher Sugar Output Projection Is Bitter News For Modi Government: It May Have To Incentivise Exports Again
https://swarajyamag.com/business/higher ... orts-again
The sugar industry will once again look towards the Centre for succour as it will likely produce at least four million tonnes (mt) sugar more this season (October 2020-September 2021) compared with last season.

The Indian Sugar Mills Association's (ISMA) preliminary estimates show that India could produce 31 mt of sugar against 27.4 mt last season. The 31 mt is after making allowance for the production of ethanol, which could have otherwise resulted in an additional production of 2 mt of sugar.

ISMA made the estimate after a second survey based on the satellite mapping of the areas under sugarcane in the first week of this month. As per the survey, the total area under sugarcane this year is 5.27 million hectares (mh) against 4.84 mh a year ago, up 9 per cent.

According to the survey, the area under sugarcane in Maharashtra has increased 48 per cent following good rains during north-east monsoon last year and south-west monsoon this year.
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India's per capita sugar consumption is among the lowest in the world. From 20 kgs a few years back it has come down to 18 kgs. To expect it to come down further may not be realistic.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Thakur_B » 21 Oct 2020 09:51

Ambar ji, for an Individual Sonu Sood did great especially compared to politicians, other celebrities and owners of corporates. No need comparing efforts of an Individual with limited resources vs the machinery of government. It's not like Sonu Sood was uber rich to begin with.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 21 Oct 2020 10:09

Sonu Sood was likely propped up by a party and has political ambitions. Nothing in the murky B-wood celeb gang is clear to begin with.

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Postby pankajs » 21 Oct 2020 10:41

Good move .. will ensure that the "investingation" into the TRP matter is not a one sided circus done to bring Republic/Arnab to heel. Also, IF the rest of the media did not call the Mumbai police investigation as vendetta, they will have not leg to object to a CBI prove against all media.

This is how it is done. BJP, for far too long, has been very passive in matter of media and its supporters being cornered by fake cases.

https://twitter.com/rajshekharTOI/statu ... 8106774528
CBI registers FIR in the 'TRP scam'. UP Police first filed an FIR on the complaint of one Kamal Sharma from Barabanki. Case referred for a CBI probe, centre gave a go ahead.

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Postby pankajs » 21 Oct 2020 10:56

https://twitter.com/prasannavishy/statu ... 5753553920
Kerala High Court Throws Out Petition Filed By CPM-Led Government Against The Privatisation Of Thiruvananthapuram International Airport, Calls It Classic Example Of The proverbial ‘sour grapes.’

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby darshhan » 21 Oct 2020 11:19

Karan M wrote:Sonu Sood was likely propped up by a party and has political ambitions. Nothing in the murky B-wood celeb gang is clear to begin with.


Very important. H population has a very serious affliction which goes by the name of "individual worship". Lot of shady characters and agencies exploit this weakness of Hs to hilt. Some of them are classic trojan examples. Primarily extremely low self esteem of Hs is responsible for this.

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Postby george » 21 Oct 2020 15:24

nandakumar wrote:
darshan wrote:GoI in general needs to encourage less sugar in diet and less sugarcane fields. Need to go back to roots and grow varieties of native to each areas to improve health of local consumer.


India's per capita sugar consumption is among the lowest in the world. From 20 kgs a few years back it has come down to 18 kgs. To expect it to come down further may not be realistic.


As a crop, sugar is a strain on our poorly managed water resources. IMHO, we should be producing only half our current consumption and import the rest from Brazil. With farm reforms, hope to see farmers migrating to crops with better potential for revenue.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 21 Oct 2020 17:25

george wrote:
nandakumar wrote:India's per capita sugar consumption is among the lowest in the world. From 20 kgs a few years back it has come down to 18 kgs. To expect it to come down further may not be realistic.


As a crop, sugar is a strain on our poorly managed water resources. IMHO, we should be producing only half our current consumption and import the rest from Brazil. With farm reforms, hope to see farmers migrating to crops with better potential for revenue.


we are not exporting "sugar", we are foolishly exporting our scarce water resources.

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Postby chetak » 21 Oct 2020 17:30

why bring the britshits back again

are there still some sanatanis to convert there :mrgreen:

and why do we need the britshits to teach science & mathematics when all they are going to do is to breed more urban naxals

PIB India@PIB_India · Oct 19

Union Minister of State @DrJitendraSingh calls upon British Government to explore and exploit huge business opportunities in North Eastern Region; welcomes @BritishCouncil proposal for teaching Science & Mathematics in all 8 States of the region

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1665839

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Postby pankajs » 21 Oct 2020 18:17

She is from Gujarat and tracks Modi/Shah rather closely. No friend of BJP.

https://twitter.com/sheela2010/status/1 ... 9765010432
The Saffron Sentinent is consolidating, in coming 24 months there is need to reset and ignite the Congress Sentiment for sake of its survival. The last chance for Rahul for course correction

https://gulfnews.com/amp/opinion/op-eds ... 1.74692204
The pulse of India: What BJP has and the Congress lacks

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Postby pankajs » 21 Oct 2020 18:21

Btw .. just to point out, after the Baki and Indian Jiihadi attempt to get maximum Hindu Indians in the Gulf sacked from their job with the active collision of a very senior editor at the Gulf news, the Gulf news has toned down quite a lot, now publishing many pro Modi/India pieces from Indian writers!

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nits » 21 Oct 2020 18:30

^ any insight sir what caused this change in heart

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Postby Ambar » 21 Oct 2020 19:00

Nothing has changed and its nothing new, 'Gulf News' has a lengthy history of writing glowing articles on Indian companies, Indian expatriate businessmen in Gulf, Bollywood etc and at the same time writing plenty of anti-India, anti-Hindu content as seen through the paki-islamo-left lens.

As for Sonu Sood, in the early days i too believed him arranging food, buses, temporary shelter etc for migrant workers was for the right reasons, but as he opened a new shop on Twitter trying to "help" people , it became more and more obvious there was more sinister purpose behind his noble acts. Many twitter accounts that asked for help (and he replied to ! ) were new and disappeared soon after him replying promising help. Then there are some bizarre tweets such as below where he is promising a kid that he will play at the MCC cricket grounds , Lords, England

https://twitter.com/sonusood/status/1309922149495377920

In the last few months he has taken the all too familiar bollywood route of sharing memes on social media mocking the govt and Modi in particular. Remember, the man is no stranger to politics. He is known to be close to Congress' top brass in Delhi and PJ, and i wouldn't be too surprised if he contests from either PJ, MH or UP in the coming days.

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Postby chetak » 21 Oct 2020 19:34

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Postby SBajwa » 21 Oct 2020 19:59

Sonu Sood is from Moga which is part of Faridkot constituency. Current MP is a folk singer named Mohammad Sadiq of Congress. Very likely that Akalis will win this seat in next elections.

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Postby Sachin » 21 Oct 2020 21:52

Explained: What Punjab’s three new farm Bills say, what they seek to achieve
What is the impact of such a law? I am hearing two different opinions, and I tend to agree with the second one. First is from the "secular" camp which says Punjab has been brave enough to completely make the central laws irrelevant in Punjab. The second is from the "communal" camp which says that these bills would still require ascent of the President of India, as they are amending central laws. For example when MH enacted the MCOCA to hit back at the mafia it required President's ascent as this act was byepassing/modifying some provisions in IPC and Cr.PC (which are centrally legsilated laws).
Note; even the news quoted above says only the state made "bills" have been passed, but it generally becomes an "Act" only when Governor approves it. Seems to be jugglery of words.

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Postby pankajs » 22 Oct 2020 00:24

nits wrote:^ any insight sir what caused this change in heart

Just check this piece
https://gulfnews.com/opinion/op-eds/ind ... .74710337# -India is standing up to China’s aggression

and other by the same author ...
-- A silent revolution is taking place in India
-- Modi’s Farm Bills a game changer for Indian farmers
-- What did Narendra Modi do to curb COVID spread in India?
-- Narendra Modi’s government has made India open for business

Or, https://gulfnews.com/opinion/op-eds/fro ... 420886594# - From a tea stall to the Prime Minister’s office, Narendra Modi’s two decades of exemplary leadership

and others by the same author ...
-- Attacks on Kangana Ranaut, Madan Sharma: Has Mumbai descended into goonda raj?
-- Narendra Modi’s UN Security Council push: Another heroic effort to improve India’s standing in the world
-- Combat COVID-19 by following Mahatma Gandhi's ideals on body and morals
-- IPL 2020 in UAE: Cricket in a bio bubble, but the game and lure are not sanitised

Most of these are directly about India/Modi, written by well known Indians who lean right and provide positive coverage for Modi. None of these pieces are about Indian companies or Indian expatriate businessmen in Gulf or Bollywood, etc

I started getting these reports recently. Something at Gulf News has changed. It now has "right" views alongside the rest.

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Postby chetak » 22 Oct 2020 02:16

guess which politico is the biggest mandi agent in punjab buying from farmers and selling to the FCI and making thousands of crores in the bargain on commissions alone.

besides, the subject of Narendra Modi government’s agricultural reforms come under the concurrent list.

per wiki

On items in the concurrent list, if any provision of a law made by the Legislature of a State is repugnant to any provision of a law made by Parliament which Parliament is competent to enact, or to any provision of an existing law with respect to one of the matters enumerated in the Concurrent List, then, the law made by Parliament, whether passed before or after the law made by the Legislature of such State, or, as the case may be, the existing law, shall prevail and the law made by the Legislature of the State shall, to the extent of the repugnancy, be void.


items in the concurrent list

33. Trade and commerce in, and the production, supply and distribution of,-

(b) foodstuffs, including edible oilseeds and oils


let's see just how far the congis are willing to take this state law thingie. :mrgreen:


Three Reasons Why Punjab Bills To Bypass Modi Government's Agri Reforms Might Backfire On Capt. Amarinder, Congress




Three Reasons Why Punjab Bills To Bypass Modi Government's Agri Reforms Might Backfire On Capt. Amarinder, Congress


M R Subramani
Oct 21, 2020


Three Reasons Why Punjab Bills To Bypass Modi Government's Agri Reforms Might Backfire On Capt. Amarinder, Congress


Snapshot
To start with, constitutional experts have said that Punjab is wrong to try and nullify a Central law, especially when the subject is concurrent.

And if the provisions to levy penalties on corporate houses for trading outside APMCs is considered along with the provision on MSP, most likely, Punjab will be the loser.


On Tuesday (20 October), the Capt Amarinder Singh government in Punjab passed three Bills in the State Assembly to essentially neutralise the Narendra Modi government’s agricultural reforms in the State.

Among the proposals made in the three Bills passed by the Punjab Assembly are: making purchases of rice and wheat below the minimum support price (MSP) fixed by the Centre punishable, provision to levy fee on corporates purchasing outside the Agricultural Produce Marketing Committee (APMC) mandis (markets), and protecting landholdings of small farmers who own less than 2.5 acres of land from attachment.

Another provision enables the State government to fix stock limits to prevent hoarding and black-marketing.


The Punjab government might want people to believe that these measures are farmer-friendly, but a review of them should leave no one in doubt that they are an exercise in futility.

Despite the Modi government assuring every stakeholder in the agricultural sector that the Centre's reforms are for the welfare of the farmers, the Congress and the Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD), the latter of which quit the National Democratic Alliance in the wake of the reforms, have raised the stakes to levels that are hard to fulfil.

For the record, the Centre passed three Acts in Parliament to usher in agricultural reforms.

One is The Farmers Produce Trade and Commerce (Promotion and Facilitation) Act, 2020, which allows farmers to sell their produce to the buyer of their choice and anywhere in the country.

Second is The Farmers (Empowerment and Protection) Agreement on Price Assurance and Farm Services Act, 2020, which allows contract farming.

Third is the Essential Commodities (Amendment) Act, 2020, that removes the cap on stock limits on essential commodities. The Centre, however, has provisions in the Act place to check for sudden surge in prices or hoarding.


What are the issues with the Punjab Bills?

There are several shortcomings in the Bills passed by the Punjab Assembly.

To start with, constitutional experts such as S C Kashyap have said that Punjab is wrong to try and nullify a Central law, especially when the subject is concurrent.

Media houses such as The Tribune and Business Standard have quoted these experts to say that ultimately, the whole issue will reach the Supreme Court, which will have to rule on who is the competent authority to decide on these laws regarding agriculture.

The second issue is with the Bill on MSP. This clearly reveals the intentions of the Congress and the Punjab government.

Every year, the Centre announces MSP for 23 crops grown in the kharif (summer) and rabi (winter) seasons. When this is the reality, why is the Punjab government confining the MSP in its Bills to only paddy and wheat?

If the provisions to levy penalties on corporate houses for trading outside APMCs is considered along with the provision on MSP, the gameplan of Capt. Amarinder Singh and his government becomes clear.

Primarily, these provisions seem to target the Food Corporation of India (FCI), which procures the foodgrains from Punjab for maintaining buffer stocks that are used for supply of rice and wheat in ration shops through the public distribution system and meeting of any food emergency in view of drought or floods.

The new provisions virtually leave only the FCI in a position to procure wheat and rice in Punjab. The FCI procures nearly 30 per cent of its total wheat for buffer stocks from Punjab and in the case of rice, it procures nearly 20 per cent of the total from the northern State.

The Punjab government collects markets fee and other levies, such as for rural development, from the FCI for the procurement. The State collects nearly Rs 3,200 crore every year through such fees and levy that are collected at APMCs.

The MSP provision for rice and wheat, besides the one targeting corporate houses, leaves no one in doubt that the FCI procurement is the target. Probably, Punjab is ignoring one aspect.


Some of the members in the Punjab Assembly said that the State had contributed much to foodgrain production and achieving self-sufficiency. This is true of the 1970s and 1980s.

Not any more. Punjab is no more the number one rice or wheat producer. West Bengal and Uttar Pradesh are the top rice producers, while Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh have left the northern State behind in wheat production.

If the leading producers of wheat and rice demand that FCI procure more from their States, Punjab could be in trouble.


Also, the provisions to make punishable those paying lower than MSP for wheat and rice will force industrial buyers to stay away from Punjab.

“Why should we buy from Punjab at a price higher than the prevailing market price? Why should we be penalised when we offer market rates? We would rather stay off than buy from there,” said an industrial user, not wishing to be identified in view of the sensitivity of the issue.

Also, the Congress and the Akali Dal are indulging in double-speak on the MSP issue.

Both governments under SAD’s Parkash Singh Badal and Capt Amarinder Singh have failed to ensure MSP for maize (corn) and sunflower grown in the State over the last five years, despite giving an assurance in this regard to the Punjab and Haryana High Court.

A petition was filed by a group of Punjab and Haryana farmers in the High Court to direct the States to purchase agricultural produce other than rice and wheat at MSP in 2015.

On 26 May 2015, both governments gave an undertaking to procure sunflower and maize at MSP, but subsequently, the Badal government refused to buy sunflower seeds. This resulted in the Punjab government being reprimanded by the High Court.

While the Haryana government procures these crops, Punjab has not done anything in this regard.


Thus, the whole exercise of Punjab passing Bills to nullify the Central Acts on agricultural reforms could actually pose problems for farmers for three reasons.

One, MSP might be confined only to wheat and rice. Two, it could force the FCI to procure more from other States at the cost of Punjab. Three, industrial buyers will likely boycott Punjab in purchasing foodgrains.

Probably, Capt Amarinder Singh and the Congress could end up paying a heavy price for opposing the agricultural reforms — an act that could backfire on them.

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Postby george » 22 Oct 2020 11:14

KLNMurthy wrote:Syed Rizwan Ahmed on the Tanishq Ad(youtube video)

Apparently Syed Rizwan Ahmed is the patriotic cousin of Naseeruddin Shah, who is, you know, not patriotic.

The video is about 15 or so minutes, and is in Hindi. Worth watching if you follow Hindi. Brief summary of my takeaway (I can't guarantee that this is not colored by my own leanings):

Muslims have no right to talk about Hindu trolls in the Tanishq case, as they are the original trolls. That said, Modi sarkar should clarify its position on inter-faith marriages: Prohibit inter-faith marriages altogether, or bring suitable amendments to the Special Marriage Act to keep out religious institutions. SRA would support that, but cannot support troll rule. We are a country ruled by law and that is what is at stake here.


Apologies to everyone, raking this up again.

For those who don't know what Taqqiyya is, I advise a quick gogol

This man practices Taqqiyya to perfection. Per his views

India (Modi, as he keeps referring to this government), should pass a law where an interfaith couple marriage disallows change of faith. All dhimmis will say wah wah, that should solve it. What he is effectively saying is make love jihad legal. Anyone here thinking that post marriage a Hindu woman is considered anything more than a slave with a womb is out of their effing gondas.

And also, the poor man has only heard of a christian girl being a victim of love jihad. No Hindu victims yet.

And his rebuking of those muslims who are 'distasteful' ... once again, I refer you to takiya.

Hoping for Secular Doge to make a post on this buffoon.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nandakumar » 22 Oct 2020 12:21

The Swarajya article on Punjab's new law on agriculture is, by and large, a concise analysis of what it could mean for farmers in Punjab. But one criticism that I have of the piece is that it hasn't tried to capture what is happening on the ground. If you take the date date when the ordinance itself was issued, it has been two and a half month since the new law is in place. So what has been the experience. Mind you even as early as last week of September rice is being harvested from the sowing done in June. Particularly in the States of Haryana and Punjab. What have the farmers been doing? What has FCI been doing with regard rice harvested in Punjab? There is no information even anecdotal on this.

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Postby chetak » 22 Oct 2020 12:53

nandakumar wrote:The Swarajya article on Punjab's new law on agriculture is, by and large, a concise analysis of what it could mean for farmers in Punjab. But one criticism that I have of the piece is that it hasn't tried to capture what is happening on the ground. If you take the date date when the ordinance itself was issued, it has been two and a half month since the new law is in place. So what has been the experience. Mind you even as early as last week of September rice is being harvested from the sowing done in June. Particularly in the States of Haryana and Punjab. What have the farmers been doing? What has FCI been doing with regard rice harvested in Punjab? There is no information even anecdotal on this.


the FCI procurement data will be skewed for this year's procurement, as well as, possibly the next two years also, because the procurement will be much higher than usual to cater for replenishment stocks for the food grains consumed during the pandemic which the GoI provided free of cost to a large section of the poor unemployed and also the stranded migrant labor.

Therefore, such data cannot be representational of the usual procurement quantities.

The punjab farmers also get a lot of govt benefits in the form of subsidies and because of this the state govt of the day generates a lot of goodwill for itself so these guys think that they are a law unto themselves.

BTW, other states, like UP, MP, WB, etc have, by far, overtaken punjab in the sheer quantities of rice and/or wheat produced and those states have to be accommodated as well in any MSP purchase by the FCI.

the congis are as usual playing a sly and devious game.


Record buying of paddy on MSP, wheat to be similarly procured: Hardeep Puri


Unprecedented increase of procurement at MSP in Punjab from 7.4 LMT last year to 26.1 LMT this year as on October 11


New Delhi, October 13

Union Minister Hardeep Singh Puri on Tuesday accused “some people” of “spreading lies, fake propaganda and inciting farmers” against the government by calling the new agriculture laws anti-farmer “despite knowing benefits of these laws for farmers to increase their income”.

Interacting with scientists, professors and senior persons related to agriculture from Tarn Taran, Amritsar, Puri, while elaborating on the steps taken by the government, said there has been an increase in paddy procurement at MSP in Punjab.

“In the ongoing kharif season, Punjab registered unprecedented increase of procurement from 7.4 LMT last year to 26.1 LMT this year as on October 11, more than 251 per cent increase from the Kharif procurement compared to last year.

“The number of farmers who have benefited from paddy procurement at MSP has increased by 72 per cent between 2017-18 to 2019-20,” he said.

Asserting that wheat will also be procured in similar manner, Puri said: “The MSP is going to stay. The current paddy crop is being bought on MSP basis. There has been record buying by government agencies this season. Similarly, wheat will be procured in the season and no farmer will face any issue.”

Puri said legislations “will also create new opportunities for arhityas who can provide better seeds, inputs, knowledge, supply chain assistance apart from their existing roles in mandis. Investments will drive change across the supply chain benefiting all stakeholders to reduce the agriculture wastage which is currently at 30 per cent.”

The number of procurement centers for Kharif season this year increased from 30,549 (2019-20) to 39,130, nearly 30 per cent hike, he said.

“The number of procurement centers (rabi and kharif seasons combined) gone up from 48,550 in 2016-17 to 64,515 in 2019-20, increase of nearly 33 per cent over just four years,” he added.

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chetak
My sources in the media tell me that open market price is lower than the MSP. That perhaps explains the sharp increase in FCI procurement. But I haven't been able to independently confirm it. The one time that I checked the Government Agrinet website it didn't have any data!

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Postby chetak » 22 Oct 2020 15:43

nandakumar wrote:chetak
My sources in the media tell me that open market price is lower than the MSP. That perhaps explains the sharp increase in FCI procurement. But I haven't been able to independently confirm it. The one time that I checked the Government Agrinet website it didn't have any data!


FCI procurements have increased simply because the buffer stocks of the GoI have been depleted substantially due to the free food grain supply to the public which is being done because of the pandemic

FCI procurement and open market procurement are for very different purposes.

As always, both will continue side by side.

FCI procurement serves a social benefit and social good while open market procurements are purely profit oriented.

BTW, open market prices are mostly lower than MSP.

even for MSP purchases by the mandi commission agents, the farmers are invariably shortchanged using excuses like high moisture content and contamination levels and what the farmer actually get in hand is a lot less after cutting all the "taxes" which are borne totally by the hapless farmer even though it is actually the commission agent who has to legally pay these "taxes".

Often, there is no bill asked or given for the sale and so these transactions are totally in the black with the mandi agent totally defrauding both the govt and the farmer.

this is exactly why the politicos want the APMC mandis to continue

It is exactly like the marwadi shopkeeper who charges you the extra 3% if you pay by credit card, even though that 3% is the merchant commission that the shopkeeper has to pay to the credit card company for processing the card transaction

It is only the commission agents who actually make money on the MSP.

don't go by any website data, because the harsh realities of the market play out a lot differently on what prices the farmer actually gets to take home

the punjab "farmer" agitation is driven solely by the commission agents and pappu's congi cuuntze

BTW, if every state govt stops paying "compensation" for the farmer who "commits" suicide, the number of suicides in the country will drop very very substantially.


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pankajs wrote:Good move .. will ensure that the "investingation" into the TRP matter is not a one sided circus done to bring Republic/Arnab to heel. Also, IF the rest of the media did not call the Mumbai police investigation as vendetta, they will have not leg to object to a CBI prove against all media.

This is how it is done. BJP, for far too long, has been very passive in matter of media and its supporters being cornered by fake cases.

https://twitter.com/rajshekharTOI/statu ... 8106774528
CBI registers FIR in the 'TRP scam'. UP Police first filed an FIR on the complaint of one Kamal Sharma from Barabanki. Case referred for a CBI probe, centre gave a go ahead.

To isolate the Mumbai circus against Republic/Arnab the Maharashtra gov has withdrawn the general consent to CBI! They too immediately sensed the real objective of the CBI move of TRP Scam.

This will ultimately land in the courts and will go in favor of CBI as the case has cross-country relevance. Theek hai ...

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Postby sanjayc » 22 Oct 2020 18:30

With the UP Govt. handing over TRP case to CBI, Amit Shah is going to screw India Today TV as a warning to Congress gang to go easy on Republic TV. India Today TV has HQ in Noida which is BJP territory

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Postby darshan » 22 Oct 2020 18:48

chetak wrote:BTW, if every state govt stops paying "compensation" for the farmer who "commits" suicide, the number of suicides in the country will drop very very substantially.

I have always wondered about exploitation of this as anything associated with money can be exploited. There can be a whole ecosystem that one can set up and run in this case. From vested interest getting their stats to all involved getting their cut.

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Postby pankajs » 22 Oct 2020 18:52

Many a times we are too quick to pass judgement on GOI when we don't have the full picture.

x-post ...

https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/statu ... 7820276736
Those blaming India for Farzad-B gas field in Iran cancellation should also realize that even China pulled out gas field projects in Iran
https://tinyurl.com/y2czg92a

Fact is without western eqmnt no gas fiepds can be developed & no western company will give due to US sanctions

https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-china-sout ... 01771.html
Iran Says China Has Pulled Out Of South Pars Natural Gas Project

Plus Iran has becomes very ornery once there is some relaxation on the sanctions front.

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https://twitter.com/vasudha_ET/status/1 ... 5864306689
Free Covid vaccine, professional education including medical and engineering studies in Hindi, 19 lakh jobs largely in health, IT, agriculture sectors, Bihar as national IT hub, push to women SHGs, AIIMS in Darbhanga - BJP promises for Bihar 2020.

Does it really say what I think it says?

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Postby darshan » 22 Oct 2020 19:16

The dreaded non satvic object is back in the news again. No wonder onion avoidance was a norm at once. May be forefathers knew about this onion based self destruction in Indian DNA.

I will have no problem going without onions especially if I know that they are fumigated.

Modi Government Allows More Onion Imports, Eases Quarantine Norms To Check Surging Prices

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/modi ... ing-prices
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Agricultural consignments coming into India have to be fumigated mandatorily to ensure foreign pests and inspects are eliminated and not allowed to enter the country.

Imports will now be allowed until 15 December, a fair indication of how prices could rule high till then, while fumigation of imported onions can now be done at the port on arrival by an accredited agency.

If Stem and Bulbs nematode (Ditylenchus Dipsaci) or onion maggot (Hylimia antiqua) is detected in the onion consignments, it would be eliminated through fumigation and the consignments to be released with no additional inspection fee.
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Postby chetak » 22 Oct 2020 19:34

sanjayc wrote:With the UP Govt. handing over TRP case to CBI, Amit Shah is going to screw India Today TV as a warning to Congress gang to go easy on Republic TV. India Today TV has HQ in Noida which is BJP territory


I eagerly await the day when the BJP is going to payback anyone in the same coin.

It will never happen. All have the same prithviraj genes defect.

sickular "patrakars" today, abuse the bjp govt and PM when they are in power but are $chitt scared of going anywhere near the almost marginalized mafia famiglia, commies and urban naxals because they know that those guys and their BIF cohorts are vicious, mean and extremely vindictive


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