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I’ll go ahead and make a simple prediction:
Delhi’s days as a state are numbered
The existing division of command simply doesn’t work . It simply leads to the inability to act because half the executive arms of the state are under state and the rest under federal control, and they haven’t seen eye to eye in years now.
The needs of the central government in Delhi are too particular for the current form of federal representation for Delhi . It’s got to go back to being a UT with an elected MCD that parties can vie for .
Delhi’s days as a state are numbered
The existing division of command simply doesn’t work . It simply leads to the inability to act because half the executive arms of the state are under state and the rest under federal control, and they haven’t seen eye to eye in years now.
The needs of the central government in Delhi are too particular for the current form of federal representation for Delhi . It’s got to go back to being a UT with an elected MCD that parties can vie for .
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#Narrative
https://twitter.com/PunyaPrakop_/status ... 1829553152
https://twitter.com/PunyaPrakop_/status ... 1829553152
Utpal પાઠક உத்பல் பாட்டக் @PunyaPrakop_
This was running continuously on a TV of reputed 7 star Hotel where i was in an official event today!
We are up against powerful enemies who ceaselessly try to spoil our name and image with mountain if lies.
So don’t oppose our own who have successfully taken them on.
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#Narrative
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https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1232636430784040960
https://twitter.com/steve_hanke/status/ ... 5710327808
Prof of Economics sharing video shared by ZamZam Hamied!Prof. Steve Hanke @steve_hanke
This isn’t the Gestapo or KGB. These are #Modi’s #RSS thugs breaking into #Muslim homes, pillaging & assaulting with impunity. #BJP’s radical #Hindutva agenda is turning #India into a nightmare for Muslims. #DelhiBurns #DelhiRiots2020
https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1232636430784040960
TRT World @trtworld
Hindu mobs in India's capital have vandalised a mosque and set it on fire in an incident that many say is reminiscent of the Babri Mosque's demolition
#DelhiRiots2020
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However counter argument is that Delhi was a union territory in 1984. The two SITs that have been formed will hopefully have suggestions. Certainly, protocol and management for protests needs to be clarified.Suraj wrote:I’ll go ahead and make a simple prediction:
Delhi’s days as a state are numbered
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CAA has changed all that in at least BJP ruled states. You may want to see some of the Police Videos of UP and Karnataka. Not only have 1000s of cap wearing blokes been arrested but their properties attached and so on.syam wrote:the problem is, our police never took action on muslim mobs in all their 60+ years glory. they need to start somewhere. there is always first for everything. may be the first thing making them hesitate? they need to bite the bullet and get things under control.
The Rules of Engagement have changed, Forever.
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https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1232980942593175552
You are unable or unwilling to control the narrative inside India and/or punish fake news generators.Sidhant Sibal @sidhant
Attempts to politicise the situation: MEA on comments by US groups/people/OIC on #DelhiRiots
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That is not a counter argument . No structure is going to compel someone who doesn’t want to do his job, to do it . However, logical and clear structure enables an entity that has demonstrated its ability to do its job before , to do it.vera_k wrote:However counter argument is that Delhi was a union territory in 1984. The two SITs that have been formed will hopefully have suggestions. Certainly, protocol and management for protests needs to be clarified.Suraj wrote:I’ll go ahead and make a simple prediction:
Delhi’s days as a state are numbered
GoI has already shown it likes the use of the UT based mechanism to fix a broken administrative structure .
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based on what has been discussed over last few pages, updating this page may help everyone, including some mod work.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Guidelines.html
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Guidelines.html
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#Narrative
Video embedded .. I haven't watched.
https://twitter.com/scoutdesk/status/12 ... 5943553024
https://twitter.com/LiveLawIndia/status ... 8587451393
Video embedded .. I haven't watched.
https://twitter.com/scoutdesk/status/12 ... 5943553024
The narrative was set by Indians living in India and yet they were allowed a free run.Samiran Mishra @scoutdesk
Roger Waters of Pink Floyd reads Aamir Aziz's 'Sab Yaad Rakha Jayega' and slays Narendra Modi. #DelhiRiots2020
https://twitter.com/LiveLawIndia/status ... 8587451393
Live Law @LiveLawIndia
Delhi HC bench of CJ D N Patel and Justice Hari Shankar adjourns Harsh Mander @harsh_mander plea for FIR for hate speech against politicians in the wake of #DelhiRiots until April 13.
Order: SG had submitted before the court that the Union is seized of the matter. Further, it was submitted that Union has gone through all the videos and needs more time to take appropriate action as the situation is not conducive today.
#DelhiHighCourt
Order: Rahul Mehra, Standing Counsel Delhi Police, informed the court that till now 48 FIRs have been registered.
#DelhiHighCourt
"In light of these developments, Union of India is granted 3 weeks to file a counter affidavit. Matter is adjourned till April 13", the bench headed by Chief Justice D N Patel states in the order.
#DelhiHighCourt
#DelhiRiots2020
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404ranjan.rao wrote:based on what has been discussed over last few pages, updating this page may help everyone, including some mod work.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Guidelines.html
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Well, Delhi used to be a full state, then a UT, and is now a partial state. It was a UT In 1984 and is now a partial state. Perhaps going back to a full state may be useful in clarifying the line of command if that is indeed the problem.Suraj wrote:That is not a counter argument . No structure is going to compel someone who doesn’t want to do his job, to do it . However, logical and clear structure enables an entity that has demonstrated its ability to do its job before , to do it.
GoI has already shown it likes the use of the UT based mechanism to fix a broken administrative structure .
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vivasvatji I am surprised you dint get the BRF humour! i will move out of this thread before I am whipped by bradminsVivasvat wrote:404ranjan.rao wrote:based on what has been discussed over last few pages, updating this page may help everyone, including some mod work.
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Bottom line, Without knowledge of Dharma, safety of numbers & sense of geo-strategic affairs, No Hindu is safe from Kashmir to Tamilnadu.
We have seen the same act play all over again since the days of Gauri and Gazanavi.
We have seen the same act play all over again since the days of Gauri and Gazanavi.
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Jumma prayers bring numbers, prayers bring conviction, Kaffir target/property means some more halal acts & Kitab glorifies violence.SBajwa wrote:Why do all riots start after Friday prayers? What happens in those mosques that muslims come out rioting? I suspect these maulavis are telling them that their.prayers will only be answered if they go out and hurt non-muslims.
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naPaki moment wonly....ranjan.rao wrote:vivasvatji I am surprised you dint get the BRF humour! i will move out of this thread before I am whipped by bradminsVivasvat wrote: 404
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#DelhiRiots2020[/quote][/quote]pankajs wrote:#Narrative
Roger Waters of Pink Floyd reads Aamir Aziz's 'Sab Yaad Rakha Jayega' and slays Narendra Modi. #DelhiRiots2020
Does Waters know that his country supports fascism and racism then, in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, no doubt among other countries. And what is his, and Pink Floyd's, position on British colonialism. Have they at least said anything about it, and hinted at some compensation or atonement?
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Delhi's history as a full state is far too fledgling to offer any insight . It became a UT back in the mid 1950s, so for all practical purposes was always a UT until 1993. Ever since then it's been a halfway state.
*Why* was it necessary to make Delhi a state at all ? Some notion of fixing MCD corruption ? Never mind the current ruling party, it's not like the state BJP was any better. Delhi's infrastructure boom was driven by central/Japanese money and a central organization (DMRC).
A functioning city needs its utilities and services to be administratively controlled in a logical manner. New Delhi, as one of the premier world capitals, needs its administrative and security apparatus under a common chain of command instead of being split across a central and state structure, bringing in all kinds of central vs state vs concurrent list nonsense.
In a unitary political system, the capital naturally gets its own administrative structure. But in a federal structure, it's pointless to make the capital some kind of experimental federal+state level entity. It clearly does not work, and has never shown that it worked, since the 1990s.
*Why* was it necessary to make Delhi a state at all ? Some notion of fixing MCD corruption ? Never mind the current ruling party, it's not like the state BJP was any better. Delhi's infrastructure boom was driven by central/Japanese money and a central organization (DMRC).
A functioning city needs its utilities and services to be administratively controlled in a logical manner. New Delhi, as one of the premier world capitals, needs its administrative and security apparatus under a common chain of command instead of being split across a central and state structure, bringing in all kinds of central vs state vs concurrent list nonsense.
In a unitary political system, the capital naturally gets its own administrative structure. But in a federal structure, it's pointless to make the capital some kind of experimental federal+state level entity. It clearly does not work, and has never shown that it worked, since the 1990s.
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https://twitter.com/rahulroushan/status ... 6366127107
https://twitter.com/ABPNews/status/1232990474039787520Rahul Roushan @rahulroushan
So in the list of 22 people who died, released by GTB hospital, 8 were Hindus, 5 unidentified, and 9 Muslims. This is "anti-Muslim pogrom" as per liberals.
https://twitter.com/VikasSaraswat/statu ... 0616556545ABP News @ABPNews
मौजपुर में फायरिंग करने वाला आरोपी शाहरुख फरार, पुलिस कर रही है छापेमारी
Translated from Hindi by
Shahrukh absconding accused of firing in Maujpur, police is conducting raids
Use the window provided by Harsha Mander's petition against Kapil Mishra to file FIRs against everybody who generated, fanned or spread fake news on CAA including but not limited to politicos, media persons, media org, comedians, bollytards and activists.Vikas Saraswat @VikasSaraswat
After several politicians and a retired IG, UP Police now registers a case against former Governor Aziz Qureshi for hate speech in anti CAA protests. This is the way to do it.
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The current structure for media regulation in India. This needs updates.
https://www.prsindia.org/theprsblog/reg ... f-overview
Current composition of press council of India
http://presscouncil.nic.in/Content/8_1_ ... sitin.aspx
Can't find any known prestitutes here, to hamstring any Gov initiative
https://www.prsindia.org/theprsblog/reg ... f-overview
Current composition of press council of India
http://presscouncil.nic.in/Content/8_1_ ... sitin.aspx
Can't find any known prestitutes here, to hamstring any Gov initiative
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#Narrative
https://twitter.com/RichardHaass/status ... 2265563136
https://twitter.com/RichardHaass/status ... 2265563136
Richard N. Haass @RichardHaass
One reason for India’s relative success has been that its large Muslim minority saw itself as Indian. But this is at risk owing to govt attempts to exploit identity politics for political advantage. Truly short-sighted as both economically, socially costly
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Viral narratives are transmitted virally. If you don't like it, the first step is NOT quoting it. Most of the 'going viral' is just a whole bunch of people passing things on as a FYI.pankajs wrote:#Narrative
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It is narmal............Modi knows Dault is one of their own.chetak wrote:we can now officially start to panic
out of 1.4 billion people, they choose this guy.
Can’t believe Modi govt is so daft as to send — of all people — former RAW chief AS Dulat, who is feted by #ISI over his J&K stance, to meet #FarooqAbdullah in Srinagar. Dulat’s been hankering for such a meeting for months & this naive govt has fallen for it.
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Use PCI and other sister organizations to seize the initiative and narrative. Even if they shout bloody murder, they can't directly attack the Gov. It's their own compatriots who are taking decisions for the 'good of industry' as a whole.
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For eg- depicting routine transfer of judge muralidhar, finalized a while back, as an act of vengeance by Gov. Both PCI and Delhi HC can come down hard on this. And facts of this case can't be modified to suit their own agenda by presstitutes, as there will be a proper paper trail for such decision
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That's a problem with freedom of press in India - there's no clearly functional process of identifying and penalizing misstatement of facts or outright libel. At the very least, registered press entities need to face fines for each instance of this, and a publicly accessible record of their history with this.Sicanta wrote:For eg- depicting routine transfer of judge muralidhar, finalized a while back, as an act of vengeance by Gov. Both PCI and Delhi HC can come down hard on this. And facts of this case can't be modified to suit their own agenda by presstitutes, as there will be a proper paper trail for such decision
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I agree with you. Does not make sense for Delhi to be a state.Suraj wrote:I’ll go ahead and make a simple prediction:
Delhi’s days as a state are numbered
The existing division of command simply doesn’t work . It simply leads to the inability to act because half the executive arms of the state are under state and the rest under federal control, and they haven’t seen eye to eye in years now.
The needs of the central government in Delhi are too particular for the current form of federal representation for Delhi . It’s got to go back to being a UT with an elected MCD that parties can vie for .
Does anyone know why it was converted into a state in the first place? Seems like a purely political decision with no proper reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_(disambiguation)
Why does wiki chacha say that Delhi is a UT? Does he know something we don't?Delhi (disambiguation)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Delhi most commonly refers to:
Delhi, a city and union territory of India
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Sir people who work in IB, their identify needs to be kept secret by family and friends alike. I am sure our guy in enthu would have told few people of his new Job, do see phoren hand herechetak wrote:twitter
Let us be clear-
an Intelligence bureau officer was selected and targeted.
That means it was identified he is with IB
Only foreign agencies can do that, not local mobs.
This is systemic War on Bharat.
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I am fairly certain that is kite flying by Baweja and/or self promotion by certain parties.rsingh wrote:It is narmal............Modi knows Dault is one of their own.chetak wrote:we can now officially start to panic
out of 1.4 billion people, they choose this guy.
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As everyone has said before, cleanup has to start with media first. Jnu, amu, Shaheen bagh, all were destined to wither away, due to lack of 'oxygen', with suitable Gov action to accommodate these protests. It's the media which creates waves in the isolated ponds and gives them oxygen in form of 24×7 coverage. They are the ones who complicate any proper response by the state.
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Sir, PCI can initiate a review of media performance and come out with a report. And then 'request' additional powers to clean up the act. Gov will just guide the process in the backgroundSuraj wrote: That's a problem with freedom of press in India - there's no clearly functional process of identifying and penalizing misstatement of facts or outright libel. At the very least, registered press entities need to face fines for each instance of this, and a publicly accessible record of their history with this.
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Vidur Ji, great to have your insights on this forum. You are absolutely spot on. I grew up in Hyderabad and even though I had muslim friends as neighbors and in class at school, there was always a sense of deference that was expected from us. Even the lowliest of Muslims had a superior attitude simply because of his faith. I have lived in the West for most of my life since then and there are some truths that become evident over time.Vidur wrote:I was asked why I think Muslims mobilise so quickly
1. Conviction - underlying everything is a strong conviction that killing and destroying unbelievers is what God wants. Kafirs are inferior in every way. You will see this pervasive across all levels of society. Infact more in the 'educated'.
2. Transmission - Mosques are the primary transmission channel. They all go to mosques and get orders from there. Mosques are launchpads too
3. They are treated with kid gloves so are easy to erupt at small perceived issues. That is then opportunity to further long term goals.
General comment on why Delhi is happening now ? Intentions are always there because of ideological nd religious reasons as explained above. Our error is that we often impose our own thinking frameworks on them. They have a different objective.
Ofcourse Trump visit and Balakot anniversary is not a coincidence on timing.
There is an unbelievable unity among the Ummah that cuts across boundaries of race, language and national origins. In my area for example, an Egyptian muslim will fraternize and collaborate with an Indian muslim, sending him all the referrals simply because it is the norm. A good muslim friend from coastal Andhra told me they have no choice, they are expected, nay required to support only their own kind!
There is also an almost 'in-your-face' kind of belligerence when it comes to the society in general. It was summed up quite honestly by the British media in the post-Charlie Hebdo lamentation. They admitted they cannot afford to be critical of Islam because they (the anchors) feared for their own lives. This Deterrence of Disproportionate Retaliation is what makes everyone treat them with kid gloves as you say. The only time they can be controlled is with the threat of equal or greater force applied against them - and then they of course will play the victim card. In this the liberal media of the west (again, possibly terrified of their own offices and personnel being attacked by loony gunmen of Islam) are responsible for perpetuating the myth of the eternally displaced and marginalized Muslim.
Rather long, but here is a prime example of this - a school teacher wailing and playing victim after she got the danda from Yogi Ji for her anti-national rants earlier. This is precisely how the narrative is being spun everywhere. First you create trouble and then you claim victimhood if punished for it.
I don't know what the solution is. What is definitely needed is for the world in general and India in particular to stop being afraid. As we've long known, 'jo dar gaya wo mar gaya'. Once you realize what is at stake hopefully even the most pusillanimous Hindu will wake up and take stock. You then either do what the Jews did via Israel (once an equally docile and timid people as the Hindus today) or you fade away into obscurity with time. There does not seem to be a middle road as far as I can see. Nobody can or should promote any kind of pogroms against Muslims, that is inherently abhorrent and will lead to an unimaginable slaughter of human beings. Rather, the leadership of Islam should be persuaded that violence and Jihad is counter-productive. How that can be done is where the crux of the problem lies.
No easy answers there either.
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President of Myanmar U Win Myint along with First Lady of Myanmar are on four day state visit to India. They were accorded ceremonial welcome at Rashtrapati Bhavan yesterday. Talks between PM Modi and President Myint were held in Hyderabad House and ten agreements signed.
I am sure the symbolism of this visit and welcome is not lost on anyone especially among the liberals, and western world. Another reason to cry blue murder.
I am sure the symbolism of this visit and welcome is not lost on anyone especially among the liberals, and western world. Another reason to cry blue murder.
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https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/ib-offi ... 400-times/
The killers have to be made an example of. Meanwhile, AAP, sensing trouble, have suspended Tahir Hussain primary membership of party
The killers have to be made an example of. Meanwhile, AAP, sensing trouble, have suspended Tahir Hussain primary membership of party
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Remove the words Pink Floyd and 100 out of 100 Indians would not know who he is. Ask why is being quoted.pankajs wrote:#Narrative
Video embedded .. I haven't watched.
https://twitter.com/scoutdesk/status/12 ... 5943553024Samiran Mishra @scoutdesk
Roger Waters of Pink Floyd reads Aamir Aziz's 'Sab Yaad Rakha Jayega' and slays Narendra Modi. #DelhiRiots2020
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Ravi Shankar Prasad - Transfer of Hon’ble Justice Muralidhar was done pursuant to the recommendation dated 12.02.2020 of the Supreme Court collegium headed by Chief Justice of India. While transferring the judge consent of the judge is taken. The well settled process have been followed.
https://twitter.com/rsprasad/status/123 ... 07809?s=19
Just a simple statement. Blaming Congress. What about the presstitutes?
https://twitter.com/rsprasad/status/123 ... 07809?s=19
Just a simple statement. Blaming Congress. What about the presstitutes?
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How much do you have to hate another human being (especially somebody you've probably never met before and who has not done anything to you), to be able to kill him with such brutality. Reminds me of the Lt. Kalia episode during the Kargil war. These perpetrators must be brought to justice quickly. lesson for all the fence-sitters - this is what happens if you ignore the evil in your midst.
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Yes it was reminiscent of young Captain Kalia and his team's murder.
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Swaraj Mag team reporting Jihadis had free run fr 3 days
Insane brutality reported.
A man was killed for Jai Shree Ram sticker on motorbike
another's arm crushed for mauli on it
Many dragged inside Tahir Hussain haveli !
Including young girls.
Shockingly his multi story Obama style house was visited by 100s of reporters, displaying petrol bums, stones, catapult, acid packets!
When it should have been seized and locked at the earliest! Lots of forensic evidence lost
Insane brutality reported.
A man was killed for Jai Shree Ram sticker on motorbike
another's arm crushed for mauli on it
Many dragged inside Tahir Hussain haveli !
Including young girls.
Shockingly his multi story Obama style house was visited by 100s of reporters, displaying petrol bums, stones, catapult, acid packets!
When it should have been seized and locked at the earliest! Lots of forensic evidence lost
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some tweeple reporting second wave coming. Lets hope govt has robust preparation and intel in advance https://twitter.com/arunpudur/status/12 ... 65952?s=21
https://twitter.com/AskAnshul/status/12 ... 17925?s=20
Dear
@DelhiPolice
,
It's urgent. I have crucial information regarding more protestors mobilizing to Delhi who are calling to:
1) Reach Delhi by 28 February
2) Take refuge in Gurdwara
3) Occupy Connaught Place
Be aware & watch Mosques, Madrasas, Temples, Gurdwaras & Churches.
https://twitter.com/AskAnshul/status/12 ... 17925?s=20
Dear
@DelhiPolice
,
It's urgent. I have crucial information regarding more protestors mobilizing to Delhi who are calling to:
1) Reach Delhi by 28 February
2) Take refuge in Gurdwara
3) Occupy Connaught Place
Be aware & watch Mosques, Madrasas, Temples, Gurdwaras & Churches.
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Chetak, Vikas et al.,
Please discuss Kashmir related matters in the J&K thread. Keeps focus and posts don't get lost here.
Thanks
Please discuss Kashmir related matters in the J&K thread. Keeps focus and posts don't get lost here.
Thanks