2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 27 Jan 2020 18:03

Sharjeel Imam is damaged goods. Whitewashing of Islamism in progress! So the blame must be shifted .. in this case to JNU.

Is it any surprise?

https://twitter.com/Abhina_Prakash/stat ... te]Abhinav Prakash @Abhina_Prakash

Finally JNU is also thrown under the bus to defend Islamism! Imagine my shock!![/quote]

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 27 Jan 2020 18:15

https://twitter.com/MandarSawant184/sta ... 8872715264

Mandar Manmohan Sawant @MandarSawant184

Uddhav Thackeray has a big issue to solve.His cousin Raj's Hindutva turn has the potential to snatch away lot of Uddhav's disgruntled voters. Plus friend turned foe BJP is fostering Raj. {Rathen than BJP it might be Pawarful who might be behind Raj's gambit. Cutting Sena to size would benefit him as well as BJP.}

I analyze the seven implications of Raj Thackeray's Hindutva turn.

https://twitter.com/calamur/status/1221 ... ote]Harini Calamur (@Calamur@mastodon.social) @calamur

it is a bit difficult to take him seriously. He spent the last 18 months telling all of us why all this is a bad idea, and now he thinks the very same things are a good idea. i wonder if people are that gullible. ?[/quote] https://twitter.com/MandarSawant184/sta ... ote]Mandar Manmohan Sawant @MandarSawant184

He is trying to get Sena's lower middle class votes living in chawls n slums who hate Cong. Given an option they would choose vote for another option, than vote for a Sena allied with Cong. These voters hate BJP too as a party of Gujaratis-Jains-Brahmins.[/quote]Similar thoughts. A chunk of SSena voters want to have nothing to do with CON or BJP and will prefer another Sena pedigree.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 27 Jan 2020 18:35

https://twitter.com/utkarsh_aanand/stat ... 6438963201

Utkarsh Anand @utkarsh_aanand

#BJP leader @Gauravb filed a #PIL in #SupremeCourt against political killings in #WestBengal:

Kapil Sibal, for WB: Court must examine if member of a political party should be allowed to file PIL

#CJI: We are conscious that opposition parties are also using forum of this court

Bhell .. this CJI is outstanding! He quickly points out the double standard.

https://twitter.com/utkarsh_aanand/stat ... 1391155201

Utkarsh Anand @utkarsh_aanand

#SupremeCourt has also called for a response from the Mamata-Govt on a plea by family of slain #BJP worker Dulal Kumar, asking for a #CBI probe into his death. Kumar was found hanging from a power transmission tower in Purulia district in June 2018.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 27 Jan 2020 18:43

Video embedded ...

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1221691873237979136

TIMES NOW @TimesNow

#TukdeFundedCAAStir

EXPOSED: Sabotage-‘syndicate’ behind CAA stir. TIMES NOW EXPOSES cash, clients, Congress & clashes ‘link.’

@Dir_ED draws sensational link to Lobby. @KapilSibal, @IJaising, PFI named by ED. Sabotage-‘syndicate’ behind CAA stir. | Rahul, Navika with details.

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/122 ... uote]TIMES NOW @TimesNow

#TukdeFundedCAAStir

TIMES NOW EXPOSES cash, clients, Congress & clashes ‘link’ behind CAA stir.

+ ED claims money trail proves beyond doubt that PFI funded anti-CAA stir
+ Money withdrawn on day of demonstration or a day before protests

Rahul & Navika with details.[/quote] https://twitter.com/sudhirchaudhary/sta ... ote]Sudhir Chaudhary
@sudhirchaudhary
It’s clear now Anti CAA protests are being funded by PFI. There is a clear link between the bank transfers and anti CAA protests, their timing and location. Also read the names of the liberal leaders who are getting funds from PFI.

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SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 27 Jan 2020 19:19

sajo wrote:

https://imgur.com/a/4rlr1K0

How do you counter the non-sense drivel like the above ? I could see that 2-3 ultra-woke Hindus and a few X-Tians in my timeline have shared this. This shows the level of desperation of the EJ crowd, and their impotent provocation of GoI and the Hindus. So they are dialing this up a bit now.
This guy (Gautam Benegal) is from Jadavpur university. He is not fine with Hindu so called extremists, fine. Tried to dig up if he has posted anything against EJ extremists, and came up with nada.

Sajo!! Tell them look around the Geography? Which place has more rivers, fertile land and is conducive to easy living as oppose to the icy winds of Afghanistan, etc.

India had the most arable land in world before USA was discovered by Columbus (who was looking to discover India). This is the only reason that people from around the world from centuries have always tried to invade India. Most came in looted and went back.

The DNA reports confirm that Indians have been living in this land from thousands of years (may be 100,000)

Few like slave dynasty (sultanate) lived in India as they became free and could not go back.
Babur was kicked out of his Moghalistan by his cousins and could not go back and thus had to live in India. Read Babarnama to see how much he hated India. He wrote down than "one day in Kabul is better than million days in Delhi".

Just tell these commie morons to get educated!

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Jan 2020 21:10

I saw one interview that Burka Bibi gave to some US libarandu channel hosted by some Uncle Tom. First I was angry at her brazen 'creativity' in how she introduced CAA to make it sound discriminatory and bigoted: "Offers citizenship to all except Muslims'.

Then I was laughing my ass off at the sheer stupidity her by linking feminism to shaheen bagh protesters

.

Very clear that all of SDRE libarandu theatrics and antics are for western consumption.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 27 Jan 2020 21:43

sajo wrote:

https://imgur.com/a/4rlr1K0

How do you counter the non-sense drivel like the above ? I could see that 2-3 ultra-woke Hindus and a few X-Tians in my timeline have shared this. This shows the level of desperation of the EJ crowd, and their impotent provocation of GoI and the Hindus. So they are dialing this up a bit now.
This guy (Gautam Benegal) is from Jadavpur university. He is not fine with Hindu so called extremists, fine. Tried to dig up if he has posted anything against EJ extremists, and came up with nada.

IMo it’s a mistake for Hindus to be focusing the debate on “invaders vs insiders” or some variant of it. Similarly I have a problem with undue political importance given to countering so-called Aryan Invasion Theory, beyond its academic interest.

I think the focus should be on truth, justice, democracy, equality, being an ethical, fair, open-minded and constructive member of society and the muscle to defend the land and system against all enemies.

On each of these criteria I am personally convinced that Indic culture wins and Islamic / evangelical Xtian culture loses.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 27 Jan 2020 21:48

ramana wrote:Is Soros trying to bring down Indian economy?

Short answer: yes, of course.

At his level, the playbook of attacking and breaking countries from within is well-established and there are actual books that spell out the strategy and tactics. Breaking the economy is a cord element of it.

You know this, BRF knows this. India’s actual defenders in GoI should know this and shame on them if they don’t.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 27 Jan 2020 21:59

pankajs wrote:
sajo wrote:

How do you counter the non-sense drivel like the above ? I could see that 2-3 ultra-woke Hindus and a few X-Tians in my timeline have shared this. This shows the level of desperation of the EJ crowd, and their impotent provocation of GoI and the Hindus. So they are dialing this up a bit now.
Why do you want to counter this? As it is the people sharing and taking comfort from such meme are minuscule.

If you check the CVoter survey I posted before, about 20% people polled were "Never Modi" which is roughly equivalent to our secular population. The rest are communal and are not antagonistic to Modi even when they don't vote for him while Modi voters are solidly behind him.

Btw, such memes only shows their impotent rage and they resort to such laughable memes in response.

It’s not necessary to jump in and instantly “counter” every attack. But it is necessary to have clarity about the argument on our side, if only to be fully convinced ourselves and inoculate our side against any confusion that is sown by the enemy.

The enemy is strong, powerful and sophisticated. It attacks at all levels and targets all cross sections of intelligence, knowledge and resources. It won’t do to underestimate the enemy in any way, let alone judge the enemy’s capabilities by its weakest weapons.

They want you to have contempt for their ability. This is how they beat us virtually every single time so far.

Start by respecting the enemy. Only then one can develop the skills and systems to defeat, and ultimately crush them.

Our desire to indulge our feeling of superiority (which may be well-merited) must be set aside in favor of our desire to win.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 27 Jan 2020 22:24

Have Islamists, E-J and BIF revealed their cards too soon or is this their last Grand standing a la Use it or Lose it moment ?
Does this whole CAB close the doors forever on Gazwa-e-Hind wet dreams ?

It seems like they are consciously trying to turn every Indic against them by thuggery, violence, Threat of secession and over the top Islamism. It maybe that in their mind (based upon what I read on Non Twitter, non-FB based SM), Hindus will fold up like they did in the past (Mooplah riots, Kashmir, BD massacre etc.) and things will go back to minority veto with Political parties pampering them and claiming their first right on Indian resources.

It just maybe the handlers too have been brought up on Romilla Thaparist air brushed NCERT history and forgot to read the real history which has been whitewashed.
I am almost certain based upon my small sample size interactions, Islamists have lost all the sympathy with Aam Aadmi who is now willing to shout go-to-Pakistan and why can't govt use heavy hand against these rioters and squatters.
Next I am sure will be rejection of upcoming UCC & Polygamy act.

PS: Most of the Muslims perhaps have had a life as wretched and in penury as his next door Hindu Neighbor all from the day, He/She was forced to convert and probably less than half percent were closer to power center and were elite yet each Muslims sighs as if they were ruling Hindustan and have now lost Xenadu to Kaffirs.

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 27 Jan 2020 22:38

CRamS wrote:I saw one interview that Burka Bibi gave to some US libarandu channel hosted by some Uncle Tom. First I was angry at her brazen 'creativity' in how she introduced CAA to make it sound discriminatory and bigoted: "Offers citizenship to all except Muslims'.

Then I was laughing my ass off at the sheer stupidity her by linking feminism to shaheen bagh protesters .

Very clear that all of SDRE libarandu theatrics and antics are for western consumption.

Most Americans dont care about India, Let alone something specific to India like CAA.

Most of our liberandu journos have an american paper/media company they sell their drivel.

For Eample

The great Secular Journo Shivam Vij is a correspondent to Christian science monitor.

. Christianity and Science what a Joke

Let us make a list:

Shivam Vij - Christian science monitor
Barkha Didi - Washington Post
Sagarika Ghose - ?
Rajdeep sardesai - ?

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 27 Jan 2020 22:40

Vikas wrote:Have Islamists, E-J and BIF revealed their cards too soon or is this their last Grand standing a la Use it or Lose it moment ?
Does this whole CAB close the doors forever on Gazwa-e-Hind wet dreams?

I think people are going overboard in pleasing Hindus to undo the wrong things. For example, Indian flags were used in march first time instead of green flags. On republic day they hoisted flag. Peopke who had problem even with our anthem started singing Vande Mataram. Even in shaheen bagh, they tried to call some Kashmiri pandits( though they were still left still they tried a narrative) they have taged along chandrashaker azad to woo SC/ST.. So i feel they are doing all to state/fool hindus. I am sure many hindus will fall for such crap.

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 27 Jan 2020 22:52

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 669544.cms

The Govt. may have underestimated the kind of hold the likes of Bezos have over the Washington elite. That a garbage OpEd from a nameless foreign author is able to find front page placement in an Indian newspaper is a matter of deep concern. Just because Bezos was snubbed and his firm is being probed for anti-competitive practices - the fact of which is obvious to almost anyone with two neurons to fire - the most popular govt. in 30 years of the largest democracy in the world is being defamed like this!

Why is the Modi govt. not acting against this propaganda is something I cant fathom. There are some attempts to create an international coalition of - real people against Sorors & Bezos - no real action on the ground. Indira Gandhi would have pushed a bamboo in one end and out the other by now! The only leader who appears to be acting is Majaraj ji in UP.

Does the chai-wallah even know the ruthless exercise of power?? I have learnt to not 2nd guess his political instincts at all. But he doesnt exercise power almost until its too late! Till what time are the people of India going to be subjected to this assault? There is a cost to letting this propaganda run amok.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 27 Jan 2020 23:07

sudeepj wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 669544.cms

The Govt. may have underestimated the kind of hold the likes of Bezos have over the Washington elite. That a garbage OpEd from a nameless foreign author is able to find front page placement in an Indian newspaper is a matter of deep concern. Just because Bezos was snubbed and his firm is being probed for anti-competitive practices - the fact of which is obvious to almost anyone with two neurons to fire - the most popular govt. in 30 years of the largest democracy in the world is being defamed like this!

Why is the Modi govt. not acting against this propaganda is something I cant fathom. There are some attempts to create an international coalition of - real people against Sorors & Bezos - no real action on the ground. Indira Gandhi would have pushed a bamboo in one end and out the other by now! The only leader who appears to be acting is Majaraj ji in UP.

Does the chai-wallah even know the ruthless exercise of power?? I have learnt to not 2nd guess his political instincts at all. But he doesnt exercise power almost until its too late! Till what time are the people of India going to be subjected to this assault? There is a cost to letting this propaganda run amok.

Chaiwalla gets his power from the people. S as nd he operates in s dangerous, hostile world full of great risks to himself and India. And he is s human being with limitations.

If the people are passive or just spend their time crying that chaiwalla didn’t wave his magic wand and save them with zero cost and trouble to themselves, then that defines the limits of chaiwalla’s power to fight. The enemy will also know this.

The people are a free people. They have the choice to determine what they are going to do.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 27 Jan 2020 23:14

pankajs wrote:Video embedded ...

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1221691873237979136
TIMES NOW @TimesNow

#TukdeFundedCAAStir

EXPOSED: Sabotage-‘syndicate’ behind CAA stir. TIMES NOW EXPOSES cash, clients, Congress & clashes ‘link.’

@Dir_ED draws sensational link to Lobby. @KapilSibal, @IJaising, PFI named by ED. Sabotage-‘syndicate’ behind CAA stir. |

Rahul & Navika with details.
https://twitter.com/sudhirchaudhary/sta ... ote]Sudhir Chaudhary
@sudhirchaudhary
It’s clear now Anti CAA protests are being funded by PFI. There is a clear link between the bank transfers and anti CAA protests, their timing and location.

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Just wondering if all this protest/funding the protest is to prevent the Lok Sabha passing UCC or BJP dare not list the UCC

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 27 Jan 2020 23:25

chetak wrote:
Vikas wrote:In all seriousness, What do these jokers expect ?
Govt will table another bill to withdraw CAA or scare govt enough not to bring in any NRC later.
These are dog whistles to Con-pasand parties to be more amenable to Peacefool demands.
With the CAB, India has closed off the matter of muslim refugees flooding into India. This may be upsetting to many goras because one vast area has been closed off leaving the goras holding their dicks in hand.

There may be a concerted effort in the making to somehow dump the gelf war and other muslim refugees into India and now that plan may have been thwarted.

India refusing to accept rohingiyas may have been the initial trigger that caused some out of the box thinking in european capitals

quite sometime back I had posted tweets on the endgame of Pakistan in Twitter. This CAA is a closure for that flux too

kit · Post by **kit** » 27 Jan 2020 23:31

Publicize what the CAA actually is., let all newspapers, TV and radio mandatarily have a recitation of what the CAA in word as in the official document without any discourse on it., just facts., have copies printed out with all major newspapers., if soros can spend attacking it, a thousand crores spend in educating the masses is well spend money

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 27 Jan 2020 23:33

KLNMurthy wrote:
sudeepj wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 669544.cms

The Govt. may have underestimated the kind of hold the likes of Bezos have over the Washington elite. That a garbage OpEd from a nameless foreign author is able to find front page placement in an Indian newspaper is a matter of deep concern. Just because Bezos was snubbed and his firm is being probed for anti-competitive practices - the fact of which is obvious to almost anyone with two neurons to fire - the most popular govt. in 30 years of the largest democracy in the world is being defamed like this!

Why is the Modi govt. not acting against this propaganda is something I cant fathom. There are some attempts to create an international coalition of - real people against Sorors & Bezos - no real action on the ground. Indira Gandhi would have pushed a bamboo in one end and out the other by now! The only leader who appears to be acting is Majaraj ji in UP.

Does the chai-wallah even know the ruthless exercise of power?? I have learnt to not 2nd guess his political instincts at all. But he doesnt exercise power almost until its too late! Till what time are the people of India going to be subjected to this assault? There is a cost to letting this propaganda run amok.
Chaiwalla gets his power from the people. S as nd he operates in s dangerous, hostile world full of great risks to himself and India. And he is s human being with limitations.

If the people are passive or just spend their time crying that chaiwalla didn’t wave his magic wand and save them with zero cost and trouble to themselves, then that defines the limits of chaiwalla’s power to fight. The enemy will also know this.

The people are a free people. They have the choice to determine what they are going to do.

What are people supposed to do? Pick up a weapon? Throw stones? Its the job of the govt. to protect its people like a parent protects their children. Today, they are being subject to a non-stop propaganda assault. The govt. cant just say, '.. we will always be opposed by the medium..' and wash its hands off. Most who are being subject to this assault are not Sangh workers who will tolerate almost anything.

It beggar belief that dogs of the 'ancien regime' are still attacking Hindus every day. With the second term, it seems that their boldness has actually increased! This has happened because the Modi govt. has literally, let them get away with murder and they are completely fearless. On top of that, the govt. has picked up quarrels with the likes of Soros..

This govt. must exercise power that the people have delegated to it.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 27 Jan 2020 23:47

sudeepj wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote: Chaiwalla gets his power from the people. S as nd he operates in s dangerous, hostile world full of great risks to himself and India. And he is s human being with limitations.

If the people are passive or just spend their time crying that chaiwalla didn’t wave his magic wand and save them with zero cost and trouble to themselves, then that defines the limits of chaiwalla’s power to fight. The enemy will also know this.

The people are a free people. They have the choice to determine what they are going to do.
What are people supposed to do? Pick up a weapon? Throw stones? Its the job of the govt. to protect its people like a parent protects their children. Today, they are being subject to a non-stop propaganda assault. The govt. cant just say, '.. we will always be opposed by the medium..' and wash its hands off. Most who are being subject to this assault are not Sangh workers who will tolerate almost anything.

It beggar belief that dogs of the 'ancien regime' are still attacking Hindus every day. With the second term, it seems that their boldness has actually increased! This has happened because the Modi govt. has literally, let them get away with murder and they are completely fearless. On top of that, the govt. has picked up quarrels with the likes of Soros..

This govt. must exercise power that the people have delegated to it.

People are free to make their choices based on their skills, intelligence, imagination, and inclinations. Some of BRF’s own publish brilliant articles that clear the cobwebs from a mujahid’s mind. You do you, as the kids say.

Point is, Modi is fighting a real war in the real world, with real costs and consequences. Your choices are to help him, or fight him, or do whatever this thing is that you think you are doing. Did I miss any choices?

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 28 Jan 2020 00:02

https://www.opindia.com/2020/01/all-you ... ssion=true

From The Wire to everything else, the Anatomy of an Islamist: Into the mind of Sharjeel Imam, mastermind of Shaheen Bagh
K Bhattacharjee On January 25, 2020

The EndGame of the protests against the Citizenship Amendment Act has become evident after the mastermind of the Shaheen Bagh protests revealed his intentions of cutting off the North East from the rest of India. Sharjeel Imam, the mastermind, also happens to be a columnist at The Wire. If one had read his eulogy of Jinnah that was published on The Wire, then he or she wouldn’t have been surprised with the path he has chosen for himself.

Sharjeel Imam can be heard saying in the viral video, “If five lakh Muslims are organized then we can cut off the North-east from the rest of India. If we cannot do so permanently, then at least we can do it for months. Our responsibility is to cut Assam from India, only then will the Government will hear our voice. If we have to help Assam then we will have to cut Assam from the rest of India.”

More disturbingly, he speaks of isolating Northeast India by blocking the Chicken’s Neck. The Chicken’s Neck is a narrow stretch of land of about 22 kilometres located in West Bengal, that connects the northeastern states to the rest of India, with Nepal and Bangladesh lying on either side of the corridor. Thus, Sharjeel has made his intentions very clear, he wants a Civil War in the country and ultimately, another partition.

Before we speak of his article published on The Wire, we need to focus on some of the extremely problematic posts he has made on Facebook. It would give our readers some clue into how Sharjeel Imam thinks. First, there’s the usual apologia for Yakub Memon and Afzal Guru that we have come to expect from Radical Muslims. According to them, executing two dreaded Islamic terrorists is valid grounds for Muslims to lose their faith in the country.

Then, there is the justification for the Pulwama Terror Attack. Again, while it is true that sensible people would find this rhetoric extremely troubling, the justification for terrorism is a regular feature of the mainstream media. And Sharjeel Imam, here, is no different. He also accuses the USA, Israel and India of Islamophobia because the three countries are not willing to entertain justifications for terrorism.

With regards to the ongoing protests against the Citizenship Amendment Act, Sharjeel’s rhetoric is akin to the rhetoric peddled by the likes of Shehla Rashid and others who have continuously prevented ‘secular’ parties from claiming that these are ‘secular’ protests. Like others, Sharjeel, too, exhorts Muslims to stop liberals from ‘hijacking’ what are essentially Muslim protests.

Now, we shall elaborate on the really problematic aspects of his ideology. It is pertinent to mention here that Sharjeel Imam is a student of Modern Indian History at Jawaharlal Nehru University. The most concerning aspect of his ideology is the fact that he places Jinnah in the context of India in the 21st century. He says about Jinnah, “The more I read Jinnah Papers, the more I realize that almost all of Jinnah’s political career was spent as the leader of a minority community, organising the community against odds, and against what he considered as the Hindu revivalist forces of his time, which intended to monopolize power after British left.”

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From The Wire to everything else, the Anatomy of an Islamist: Into the mind of Sharjeel Imam, mastermind of Shaheen Bagh
K Bhattacharjee On January 25, 2020
The Anatomy of an Islamist: Into the mind of Sharjeel Imam, the Radical Muslim behind the Shaheen Bagh protests
Sharjeel Imam - The Islamist

The EndGame of the protests against the Citizenship Amendment Act has become evident after the mastermind of the Shaheen Bagh protests revealed his intentions of cutting off the North East from the rest of India. Sharjeel Imam, the mastermind, also happens to be a columnist at The Wire. If one had read his eulogy of Jinnah that was published on The Wire, then he or she wouldn’t have been surprised with the path he has chosen for himself.

Sharjeel Imam can be heard saying in the viral video, “If five lakh Muslims are organized then we can cut off the North-east from the rest of India. If we cannot do so permanently, then at least we can do it for months. Our responsibility is to cut Assam from India, only then will the Government will hear our voice. If we have to help Assam then we will have to cut Assam from the rest of India.”

More disturbingly, he speaks of isolating Northeast India by blocking the Chicken’s Neck. The Chicken’s Neck is a narrow stretch of land of about 22 kilometres located in West Bengal, that connects the northeastern states to the rest of India, with Nepal and Bangladesh lying on either side of the corridor. Thus, Sharjeel has made his intentions very clear, he wants a Civil War in the country and ultimately, another partition.

Before we speak of his article published on The Wire, we need to focus on some of the extremely problematic posts he has made on Facebook. It would give our readers some clue into how Sharjeel Imam thinks. First, there’s the usual apologia for Yakub Memon and Afzal Guru that we have come to expect from Radical Muslims. According to them, executing two dreaded Islamic terrorists is valid grounds for Muslims to lose their faith in the country.

Source: Sharjeel Imam’s Facebook profile
Then, there is the justification for the Pulwama Terror Attack. Again, while it is true that sensible people would find this rhetoric extremely troubling, the justification for terrorism is a regular feature of the mainstream media. And Sharjeel Imam, here, is no different. He also accuses the USA, Israel and India of Islamophobia because the three countries are not willing to entertain justifications for terrorism.

Source: Sharjeel Imam’s Facebook profile
With regards to the ongoing protests against the Citizenship Amendment Act, Sharjeel’s rhetoric is akin to the rhetoric peddled by the likes of Shehla Rashid and others who have continuously prevented ‘secular’ parties from claiming that these are ‘secular’ protests. Like others, Sharjeel, too, exhorts Muslims to stop liberals from ‘hijacking’ what are essentially Muslim protests.

Source: Sharjeel Imam’s Facebook Profile
Now, we shall elaborate on the really problematic aspects of his ideology. It is pertinent to mention here that Sharjeel Imam is a student of Modern Indian History at Jawaharlal Nehru University. The most concerning aspect of his ideology is the fact that he places Jinnah in the context of India in the 21st century. He says about Jinnah, “The more I read Jinnah Papers, the more I realize that almost all of Jinnah’s political career was spent as the leader of a minority community, organising the community against odds, and against what he considered as the Hindu revivalist forces of his time, which intended to monopolize power after British left.”

Source: Sharjeel Imam’s Facebook Profile
Sharjeel continues, “Seventy years later, the Muslims and other minorities of India know too well what he meant. In other words, Jinnah who was an Indian Muslim for the first 71 of the 72 years of his life, is infinitely more relevant for the besieged Indian Muslim minority than for Pakistani Muslims. In very specific ways, as an Indian Muslim politician fighting for minority rights, his methods, his arguments, his successes and his failures are lessons for us.”

Sharjeel Imam goes on to assert that Indian Muslims should study Jinnah in order to understand the myth of ‘Secular Congress’. This is extremely problematic rhetoric. Sharjeel hasn’t limited himself to praising Jinnah in the manner in which Mani Shankar Aiyar of the Congress party praises Jinnah. From his portrayal of Jinnah, it is clear that he wants Indian Muslims to emulate Jinnah and seize power in the country.

Where his thoughts about Jinnah become really clear is his article published on The Wire. From his eulogy of Jinnah on The Wire, it is evident that Sharjeel does not find any fault with Jinnah’s conduct that led to the partition of the country. He does not even believe that partition was necessarily a bad thing. He says, “In order to demystify Jinnah and to resolve such contradictions, a fuller discussion of Partition should have been a part of our educational setup. However, it has been made impossible to know such a historic figure by attributing violence of Partition to him. This as an attempt by Congress to hide its failures to accommodate the genuine Muslim demands and aspirations for political proportional representation.”

Sharjeel did not stop there of course. He says that the ‘questions’ raised by Jinnah “are just the starting point of a larger debate which will inevitably take place again and again, as the situation of Indian Muslims is made to worsen.” He believes that Jinnah led a righteous struggle to protect Indian Muslims from Hindu rule. Also, Sharjeel goes to great lengths to prove that Jinnah was a leader of Indian Muslims. He says, “Indian Muslims, despite having been indoctrinated for generations now, retain some memory of Partition and Jinnah. For many of them, Jinnah is the author of Partition and yet one of the greatest leaders of “Muslim India” in the last century, who made the Muslim League into a national party by mobilising millions of Muslims across British India.”

He states further, “Jinnah’s communalism is positive communalism as discussed above, and need not be understood through the contemporary meaning of the word. He did not believe that India was a nation, as is shown by the frequent use of the term ‘continent’ as well as ‘subcontinent’. He was merely representing one community in this grand ocean of communities, and in this process, he was trying to secure rights for all numerically inferior communities.”

Sharjeel adds, “Jinnah argued that it does not matter if we are 15% or 25%, unless we receive safeguards, they have all the resources to monopolise power. In other words, the Muslim majority provinces chose to secede rather than stay in a Hindu-dominated centralised India, as they saw no other option. Hence Partition is not their responsibility, it is their compulsion by the conditions created by Congress.”

Lastly, according to Sharjeel, “Jinnah raised questions which are still relevant. As the largest religious minority in the world, Indian Muslims, are one of the major victims of majoritarian democracy. It is the political struggle of these hundreds of millions of besieged Muslims which will define the meaning of plural democracy for the coming centuries.” He ends the article with the words, “The AMU portrait of Jinnah must not go. If anything, we need thousands more.”

Thus, it is fairly obvious by now that Sharjeel Imam wishes to replicate what Jinnah achieved in 1947. It is also clear that he considers Jinnah as an Indian Muslim who became disillusioned with politics in the country and thus embarked upon a righteous quest to partition India along religious lines. What’s really troubling here is the fact that a widely read Indian media outlet provided a platform to such an individual to spread his propaganda.

Questions must be asked about the mainstream media and intellectual elite who have provided cover to such individuals to run their propaganda. It also shows that the liberal class can be fooled by a Jihadi if he is good enough with words. The manner in which Sharjeel has eulogized Jinnah and portrayed his Jihad against India as a righteous struggle to protect the interests of Muslims should have been the first sign that he is an extremely dangerous individual. However, since he was able to cloak his bigotry in fanciful words, Sharjeel was given great respect by the liberal fraternity. It only serves to demonstrate how gullible the liberal establishment is.

Furthermore, the liberal establishment should at least now stop to reconsider the danger that their rhetoric poses to peace in the country. The love for Jinnah, the justifications for Islamic Terrorism in Kashmir, the whitewashing of Yakub Memon and Afzal Guru, liberals should at least now realize that they are only furthering the interests of Radical Islam by peddling such extremely dubious rhetoric. The liberal establishment should also realize what their whitewashing of history and peddling narratives of Islamophobia without any shred of evidence has led to. It has led to a situation where dangerous individuals like Sharjeel Islam are using the cover their rhetoric provides in order to further the cause of Radical Islam.

It is also pertinent to mention here that Sharjeel Imam’s rhetoric eulogizing Jinnah is textbook Pakistani propaganda. He is regurgitating the propaganda points that the Pakistani establishment makes. Sharjeel doesn’t once refer to the genocides that were committed by the Muslims in their pursuit of Pakistan, he doesn’t once mention the call for ‘Direct Action Day’ that led to the slaughter of innumerable Hindus. He conveniently ignores the genocide of Bengali Hindus that Pakistan committed in 1971. All of this was Jinnah’s tree yielding fruits. And yet, Sharjeel doesn’t once refer to them and continues to whitewash his legacy while demonizing the Congress party.

There is a certain kind of truth that only radicals like Sharjeel Imam are capable of saying. It is the king of truth that liberals try to whitewash for the cause of ‘secularism’. Where Sharjeel Imam really distinguished himself, prior to his recent call for civil war, is when he declared in a Facebook post that Muslims did not choose India due to ideals of ‘secularism’. He said, and it is true, that Muslims remained in India due to their property and other reasons.

The above Facebook post from September 2019 is the biggest slap on the face of the likes of Asaduddin Owaisi who like to boast about how they chose ‘secular’ India over Islamic Pakistan. Imagine if a BJP politician had said such a thing. The entire liberal establishment would have nailed him to a cross. And here we have Sharjeel Imam who is provided a platform by The Wire and the liberal establishment which have helped the mastermind of the Shaheen Bagh protests at every turn by painting these protests as ‘secular’ and about saving the constitution.

Sharjeel Imam has also flaunted the fact that Indian Muslims cheer for the Pakistan cricket team. He sees nothing wrong with it and, in fact, exhorts Muslims to not be on the defensive about it. Most conspicuously, however, he says that growing up, he had great knowledge about Saeed Answar but did not have much idea about Saurav Ganguly. He asks his audience to figure out the reason behind it.

The evidence of his bigotry is abundant in his Facebook posts. In another Facebook post, Sharjeel denigrates Idol-Worship and calls it ‘Shirk’. He also insults polytheism, the form of religiosity most Hindus subscribe to, by using it as an insult. He equates atheism, secularism, humanism, even nationalism, to Shirk.

Thus, what is clear from Sharjeel Imam’s Facebook posts and his eulogy of Jinnah is that he doesn’t see any difference between Pakistani and Indian Muslims. He equates Nationalism to ‘Shirk’ because the Ummah transcends national boundaries. He asks Indian Muslims to not be ashamed of celebrating Pakistan’s cricket team because he believes it is natural for Indian Muslims to identify themselves more with Pakistan than with India. In fact, he encourages Indian Muslims to feel that way. At the most fundamental level, Sharjeel Imam sees Jinnah as an Indian Muslim who revolted against Hindus in order to create the Islamic State of Pakistan. He sees Jinnah’s Jihad as a righteous struggle for the protection of Muslim interests and he believes the ‘oppressed’ Muslims of India should tread a similar path.

Let this not be forgotten. The liberal establishment helped a Radical Islamist like Sharjeel Imam achieve his objective perfectly. While the Liberal Establishment accuses ordinary BJP voters of being fascists, they are the ones who collaborated with someone who whitewashed a Jihadist who was responsible for the death of millions and millions of Hindus.

Sharjeel Imam has been at the forefront of the anti-CAA protests from the very beginning. In a video that had gone viral on social media by the 17th of December, he could be seen inciting Muslims to do ‘Chakkajam’ in Delhi and wherever they have sufficient numbers. He called for Muslims to bring entire cities to a halt. “There are over 30% urban Muslims in UP. Do you have no shame at all? Why cannot you do Chakkajam in UP? The area in Bihar where I am from, the rural Muslim population is 6% while the urban Muslim population is 24%. Indian Muslims mostly live in cities. So it is upon you. You can bring your cities to a halt. If anyone asks you not to, disown them” he was heard saying in the viral video.

There is another aspect that needs to be investigated here. A thorough investigation needs to be conducted into the extent of the collusion, if there was any, between Sharjeel Imam and the students of Jamia who gave a call for Jihad. As we have reported earlier, days before violence erupted in the national capital, the students Barkha Dutt labelled ‘Shero’ gave a call for violent Jihad. While Sharjeel Imam eulogized the man responsible for the partition of the country, the Jamia Jihadans eulogized the men responsible for the Moplah massacre which resulted in the slaughter of hundreds and thousands of Hindus. Like Sharjeel, one of them did express great grief at the execution of Yakub Memon.

The role of the media also needs to be investigated amidst the current unrest. Slogans such as ‘Hinduon se Azadi‘ and yet, they were whitewashed the media. Slogans of ‘Jinnah Wali Azadi‘ were raised at the Shaheen Bagh protests and still, these protests were painted as secular. It needs to be investigated whether the Liberal Media is doing so due to their ideological affinity towards Radical Islam or whether there are more sinister reasons behind it.

The role of politicians needs to be investigated as well. AAP MLA Amanatullah Khan was spotted with Sharjeel Imam, it also needs to be mentioned that Amanatullah himself is accused of inciting riots. He had created ruckus outside Delhi police demanding the release of a 22-year-old Muslim youth named Furkan who is accused of instigating riots in Jamia Millia University in December. There is every indication of a grand conspiracy here. And as had said earlier, this is truly the Khilafat 2.0.

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 28 Jan 2020 00:26

KLNMurthy wrote:
sudeepj wrote:
What are people supposed to do? Pick up a weapon? Throw stones? Its the job of the govt. to protect its people like a parent protects their children. Today, they are being subject to a non-stop propaganda assault. The govt. cant just say, '.. we will always be opposed by the medium..' and wash its hands off. Most who are being subject to this assault are not Sangh workers who will tolerate almost anything.

It beggar belief that dogs of the 'ancien regime' are still attacking Hindus every day. With the second term, it seems that their boldness has actually increased! This has happened because the Modi govt. has literally, let them get away with murder and they are completely fearless. On top of that, the govt. has picked up quarrels with the likes of Soros..

This govt. must exercise power that the people have delegated to it.
People are free to make their choices based on their skills, intelligence, imagination, and inclinations. Some of BRF’s own publish brilliant articles that clear the cobwebs from a mujahid’s mind. You do you, as the kids say.

Point is, Modi is fighting a real war in the real world, with real costs and consequences. Your choices are to help him, or fight him, or do whatever this thing is that you think you are doing. Did I miss any choices?

Modi, while the best thing to happen to India in a long long while, is not perfect. If asking him to be more aggressive or even thinking that he should be more aggressive in dealing with miscreants triggers your matri-bhav towards him and you rush to 'defend his honor', I can only laugh at your sensitivities. Bye now.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jan 2020 00:39

You should think of why The Wire prints such sedition calls with impunity?

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 28 Jan 2020 00:51

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/nach1keta/status/12 ... 8803286016
നചികേതസ് @nach1keta

“India is moving in a direction that if Hindus want to live in India, they will need the permission of Muslims. You see what is happening in the NorthEast. BJP ministers are living in military camps. How long will u live in military protection?"
MK Faizi of SDPI in Anti-CAA Rally

Why is this not in mainstream media or even the video gone viral? Is the video authentic and did he say that?

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 28 Jan 2020 00:54

ramana wrote:You should think of why The Wire prints such sedition calls with impunity?

Bingo! Its not just this Sharjeel chap, there are a bunch of wire reporters like him, who had no problem in working shoulder to shoulder with Sharjeel Imam, but are much more careful to hide their true opinions.

So why are Indians being exposed to this attack vector from Soros, Omidyar (directly funding wire iirc), Ford Foundation etc.?

Politically, this brouhaha will be excellent for Modi-ji. Nothing like a bearded khatna wala screaming nara-e-taqbeer at red-pilling normies.

At the same time, the potential for real violence against innocent Hindus.. living in India and abroad is real. It can also cause a real schism in communities when so far, in at least some cases, the schism was only at an 'intellectual' or conceptual level.

At some point in time, I think India will have to bite the bullet and sanction Soros, Omidyar, FF and other such institutions from functioning in India and funding their NGO networks.

kit · Post by **kit** » 28 Jan 2020 01:09

sudeepj wrote:
ramana wrote:You should think of why The Wire prints such sedition calls with impunity?
Bingo! Its not just this Sharjeel chap, there are a bunch of wire reporters like him, who had no problem in working shoulder to shoulder with Sharjeel Imam, but are much more careful to hide their true opinions.

So why are Indians being exposed to this attack vector from Soros, Omidyar (directly funding wire iirc), Ford Foundation etc.?

Politically, this brouhaha will be excellent for Modi-ji. Nothing like a bearded khatna wala screaming nara-e-taqbeer at red-pilling normies.

At the same time, the potential for real violence against innocent Hindus.. living in India and abroad is real. It can also cause a real schism in communities when so far, in at least some cases, the schism was only at an 'intellectual' or conceptual level.

At some point in time, I think India will have to bite the bullet and sanction Soros, Omidyar, FF and other such institutions from functioning in India and funding their NGO networks.

That point is very real , to every indian hindu , christian and muslim because it will NOT stop with one community., what is under attack is the very fabric of the nation.

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 28 Jan 2020 01:35

Came across this on Medianama

Looks like The Wire will primarily focus on politics, economy, science, external affairs, law and culture. A number of well-known journalists, industry veterans, and academics like former Financial Express managing editor M.K. Venu, diplomat Shivshankar Menon, former TRAI chairman Rahul Khullar (INX accused Sindhushree Khullar's husband), and Mineral Physics professor at Cambridge University Simon Redfern among many others have already contributed to The Wire.

Gandhis, Tata = TheWire.
Tata,Narayan Murthy = ThePrint.
Atlantic Media, Omidyar = Scroll.in.
Omidyar = Newslaundry .
Birla = Living Media (India Today).
Ambani = NDTV, News18 etc.

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 28 Jan 2020 02:03

bhavani wrote: The great Secular Journo Shivam Vij is a correspondent to Christian science monitor. . Christianity and Science what a Joke

Let us make a list:

Shivam Vij - Christian science monitor

Shivam Vij is a rabid commie d@#$@bag, but you need to get your facts right to not detract from your overall point. The CSM has as much to do with mainstream Christianity (or Science for that matter), as The Hindu has to do with Hinduism. It is just another US rag with a mainstream readership and liberal bias, with little or no links to Christianity (the name coming from the founder being part of a cult called Christian Scientists for whatever reason).

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 28 Jan 2020 02:23

In the cold war days, any individual who could have had an axe to grind against the mainstream of the nation was not allowed into any position of responsibility. They went to the extent of excluding homosexuals, not because of inherent bias, but because homosexuality became a vulnerability that a hostile power could use to blackmail someone. In contrast, we have allowed all kinds of misfits - bigamists, homosexuals, communists, Islamists - into positions of power where they can even victimize people with a nationalist perspective! One such example is the JNU and the media ecosystem around that. They wont be able to influence the real direction of the republic, but pose a significant nuisance value and an opportunity cost.

We cant say, turn off the telly, throw away the newspaper and be done with it any longer.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Jan 2020 02:30

sudeepj wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote:
People are free to make their choices based on their skills, intelligence, imagination, and inclinations. Some of BRF’s own publish brilliant articles that clear the cobwebs from a mujahid’s mind. You do you, as the kids say.

Point is, Modi is fighting a real war in the real world, with real costs and consequences. Your choices are to help him, or fight him, or do whatever this thing is that you think you are doing. Did I miss any choices?
Modi, while the best thing to happen to India in a long long while, is not perfect. If asking him to be more aggressive or even thinking that he should be more aggressive in dealing with miscreants triggers your matri-bhav towards him and you rush to 'defend his honor', I can only laugh at your sensitivities. Bye now.

While Modi may indeed be the best thing that happened to India, it automatically follows that he may not be the best thing that happened to some others and their long standing ambitions of domination. During the partition, the muslims purposely left behind a islamic holding party in India to one day subsume our landmass into their dar ul islam to fulfill their ghazwa e Hind fantasies.

It looks like they peaked a bit too soon, thereby warning their intended prey.

The similarity in thinking of the paki elites and the Indian lootyens traitors aided by the khattarpanthi thinking of the mullah gandu gangs, congis/commies/naxals/presstitutes/BIF is very revealing.

The ordinary mango man has been awakened and he now sees the hitherto subversive and camouflaged threat for what it actually is and how it impacts his ordinary life as seen from the fallout of the shaheen bagh fallout and the maliciously callous chakka jam done in the name of "democracy"

This is one evil genie that can never be put back into the old bottle again.

So Modi is making the new bottle and that hurts them badly.

Primus · Post by **Primus** » 28 Jan 2020 02:34

Sachin wrote:
Vikas wrote:Who is paying for all this thuggery and demonstration against CAA especially to 'Minorities'.
ToILet had a report on the financiers ‘Direct link between anti-CAA stir in UP and PFI; Rs 120 cr funds deposited to 73 bank accounts for agitation'India. Looks like GoI and states which has a pro-GoI government has been actively monitoring the protest and its ring leaders have all been identified. As you said a long rope is being given for them to hang'. The GoI seems to be allowing the Jehadis and their "secular" puppets to run bersek in a very controlled environment, at the end of it their own true colours gets exposed.

The expose` by Times Now and Sudhir Chaudhary of Zee also states all this. If you look at the website of Rehab India Foundation, all its 'partners' are Jihadi organizations like IIMAN, Empower and HEAL, pretending to be for the upliftment of the poor and the minorities - but we know which minorities they mean. The entire board and organization of Empower consists of peacefools. Most of the Rehab India folks are the same with one or two useful idiot Hindus thrown in.

Watching some of the debates and reading stuff online, it is becoming increasingly obvious that this is the 'home-stretch', the BIF have thrown down the gauntlet and the peacefools are the spearhead. Gone is any pretense that this is about the constitution or sanctity of the law or safeguard of minorities. It is out and out Jihad against the elected government of India. The Congress has thrown its lot in with the Muslims knowing full well that they no longer can hope for any sympathy or support from the Hindus and caste factions they had cultivated. Strangely, the caste-based parties and their leadership appears to be silent on this whole CAA issue and certainly seem to be watching from the sidelines. Perhaps they realize their own cadres will not support them beyond a certain point if another partition-like wave of islamic violence sweeps through UP and Bihar. This may well happen.

In this context, I am increasingly worried about the safety of our leadership, especially Yogi, AS and the Big Man himself.

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 28 Jan 2020 02:45

Touching any of the leadership is a lakshman rekha they will not cross. The reason for majority restraint is that very leadership! All gloves are truly off at that point!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Jan 2020 02:47

the conversion vultures are gathering

Link for those wishing to read the six resolutions on India being taken up this week by the EU Parliament.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/plenary/ ... pe=motions…

Primus · Post by **Primus** » 28 Jan 2020 03:02

madhu wrote:
Vikas wrote:Have Islamists, E-J and BIF revealed their cards too soon or is this their last Grand standing a la Use it or Lose it moment ?
Does this whole CAB close the doors forever on Gazwa-e-Hind wet dreams?
I think people are going overboard in pleasing Hindus to undo the wrong things. For example, Indian flags were used in march first time instead of green flags. On republic day they hoisted flag. Peopke who had problem even with our anthem started singing Vande Mataram. Even in shaheen bagh, they tried to call some Kashmiri pandits( though they were still left still they tried a narrative) they have taged along chandrashaker azad to woo SC/ST.. So i feel they are doing all to state/fool hindus. I am sure many hindus will fall for such crap.

This tactic of getting Sikhs and KPs to be part of the 'dharna' at SB is pure Taqiyya. Arifa Khanum (also of The Wire, I believe) clearly outlines this in her speech (not at the SB venue though). She states that their 'ideology' has not changed, just the strategy. Meaning muslims need to pretend to be inclusive and nationalistic until they have gathered enough momentum to force the issue on their own. Thus the Tiranga, the National Anthem, Republic Day greetings etc. So while objective of ghazwa-e-Hind remains the same, the tactics have changed, all designed to fool the casual Hindu, the one who reads the 'secular' press and watches NTDV - the latter having become unwitting (or well-informed) partners in this strategy.

One wonders at the stupidity of these Liberal media houses, their journos and their owners. Are they truly drunk on the secular Koolaid that they cannot see the future if the Peacefools' dream comes true? Their own wives and daughters will be first in line for conversion and rape. Perhaps they are willing to pay that price too, in the slim hope that they will still be partners in the rest of the loot. Or maybe, as some have alleged, they do not mind becoming Peacefools in the true sense themselves.

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 28 Jan 2020 03:31

Primus wrote:
madhu wrote: I think people are going overboard in pleasing Hindus to undo the wrong things. For example, Indian flags were used in march first time instead of green flags. On republic day they hoisted flag. Peopke who had problem even with our anthem started singing Vande Mataram. Even in shaheen bagh, they tried to call some Kashmiri pandits( though they were still left still they tried a narrative) they have taged along chandrashaker azad to woo SC/ST.. So i feel they are doing all to state/fool hindus. I am sure many hindus will fall for such crap.
...
One wonders at the stupidity of these Liberal media houses, their journos and their owners. Are they truly drunk on the secular Koolaid that they cannot see the future if the Peacefools' dream comes true? Their own wives and daughters will be first in line for conversion and rape. Perhaps they are willing to pay that price too, in the slim hope that they will still be partners in the rest of the loot. Or maybe, as some have alleged, they do not mind becoming Peacefools in the true sense themselves.

Saar, these people will be the first to convert and start raping! You are looking at Wannabe Rapists who are deterred not by any internal code, rather by the 'dharma dand' or righteous violence wielded by the state. Its well known that Sanjay Jha, the Congress spokesperson is a bigamist. Abhishek Singhvi is well versed in the law, so its slam bam thank you mam for him. The only two avenues for them to release their lust is either bra burning feminism or pisslam and those movements are where they congregate.

If you begin compiling a list of their picadillos, itll be many pages long in a jiffy. Many of the vocal kids are products of rape themselves..

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 28 Jan 2020 03:52

sudeepj wrote: Modi, while the best thing to happen to India in a long long while, is not perfect. If asking him to be more aggressive or even thinking that he should be more aggressive in dealing with miscreants triggers your matri-bhav towards him and you rush to 'defend his honor', I can only laugh at your sensitivities. Bye now.

I get that you want to somehow “win” this exchange. You are bringing up the straw man that Modi iz not perfect when I literally said just that. In your mind you are imagining that I am committed to defending Modi at all costs, when I am explaining the realities of what a war is and how it is fought and won.

I don’t care about winning on BRF. I do care about 2 facts: 1. India is at war. 2. Modi is the leader of the Indic side.

Wars are not fought with the aim of satisfying the spectators. The leader runs the campaign and tries his best to win with what he has. There may be some room for suggestions. So, have you sent your suggestions (what exactly are they?) to Modi? Maybe an email? An article?

Would you rather “win” on BRF or win the war against India’s enemies?

kit · Post by **kit** » 28 Jan 2020 04:06

Good point., also something to remind one self by, doing nothing equals supporting the sekulars attacking the nations under various garbs. Today we have FB, Twitter etc, how about a mass petition supporting the CAA.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Jan 2020 04:44

the BJP guys are going all out to reach their voters

Press EVM Button With Such Anger That Shaheen Bagh Feels the Current, Says Amit Shah in Delhi Election Rally

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jan 2020 05:38

So whats the BJP estimate for Delhi and whats the confidence level?

banrjeer · Post by **banrjeer** » 28 Jan 2020 05:47

KLNMurthy wrote:
sajo wrote:

https://imgur.com/a/4rlr1K0

How do you counter the non-sense drivel like the above ? I could see that 2-3 ultra-woke Hindus and a few X-Tians in my timeline have shared this. This shows the level of desperation of the EJ crowd, and their impotent provocation of GoI and the Hindus. So they are dialing this up a bit now.
This guy (Gautam Benegal) is from Jadavpur university. He is not fine with Hindu so called extremists, fine. Tried to dig up if he has posted anything against EJ extremists, and came up with nada.
IMo it’s a mistake for Hindus to be focusing the debate on “invaders vs insiders” or some variant of it. Similarly I have a problem with undue political importance given to countering so-called Aryan Invasion Theory, beyond its academic interest.

I think the focus should be on truth, justice, democracy, equality, being an ethical, fair, open-minded and constructive member of society and the muscle to defend the land and system against all enemies.

On each of these criteria I am personally convinced that Indic culture wins and Islamic / evangelical Xtian culture loses.

Agreed also to counter arguments like there was no concept of India till the British ... blah blah.
We don't al all need to invoke history to counter this. We are here right NOW and and that's enough.

In the words of the west India is a shit-hole country run by people on third world salaries including with the lowest per capita consumption of the worlds resources. It's surrounded by hostility and failing regimes. Yet the armed forces are ready to sacrifice to defend despite having such a raw deal.

So by any yard stick India is an exceptional entity on this planet. Any other country with even a fraction of the burden would have collapsed into anarchy and disintegrated.

China is the only other entity that has managed to rise from such daunting odds.

But India is democratic. Even the so called "fascist" BJP regime will sit in opposition if voted out of power. It's also the only nation to birth a successful democracy without ill will or interference.

With all their wealth and so called democratic values the west has never been able to achieve anything close.
E.g. note sharp contrast to Churchills and Roosevelts meddling in Iran from 1953 which gave birth to Islamofascism and Wahhabism. The list goes on.

These are the talking points to counter.
Also the counter to the Azadi gang is that India will not tolerate colonizing forces whether they are western or islamic. We are fed up.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 28 Jan 2020 06:08

sudeepj wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 669544.cms

The Govt. may have underestimated the kind of hold the likes of Bezos have over the Washington elite. That a garbage OpEd from a nameless foreign author is able to find front page placement in an Indian newspaper is a matter of deep concern. Just because Bezos was snubbed and his firm is being probed for anti-competitive practices - the fact of which is obvious to almost anyone with two neurons to fire - the most popular govt. in 30 years of the largest democracy in the world is being defamed like this!

Why is the Modi govt. not acting against this propaganda is something I cant fathom. There are some attempts to create an international coalition of - real people against Sorors & Bezos - no real action on the ground. Indira Gandhi would have pushed a bamboo in one end and out the other by now! The only leader who appears to be acting is Majaraj ji in UP.

Does the chai-wallah even know the ruthless exercise of power?? I have learnt to not 2nd guess his political instincts at all. But he doesnt exercise power almost until its too late! Till what time are the people of India going to be subjected to this assault? There is a cost to letting this propaganda run amok.

Saar, the chaiwala PM has many other issues to deal with daily, ranging from the country's energy policy to diplomacy. ....
It is the responsibility of each and every Indic person to come forward, and take on these pseudo-secular/Commie/Jihadi cabal by fighting through pen. For every negative article posted online please give your counter response with logic and facts. (Many readers do go through those comments carefully.) On the SocMed give your thought-provoking facts, counter arguments and logic to turn the fence-sitters on our side.
Don't despair and throw your hands up.