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sajo wrote: If I was NaPak, or even Cheen, I would be worried. Very worried. If a simple call to collectively clap evokes this in a nation, I wonder what would happen if, say, this was a call to arms to defend a nation.
Don't take it too far. If its was so, Swatchta mission would have been fully successful by now.
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isubodh wrote:
sajo wrote: If I was NaPak, or even Cheen, I would be worried. Very worried. If a simple call to collectively clap evokes this in a nation, I wonder what would happen if, say, this was a call to arms to defend a nation.
Don't take it too far. If its was so, Swatchta mission would have been fully successful by now.
No, he is correct - he was referring to immediate crisis-level events, not swacchata type missions with a time scale of years.
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Sachin wrote:
Ambar wrote:Watching hundreds of videos and images from every corner of India where people voluntarily put themselves under curfew and came out to their doors,windows,balconies at 5 PM to clap for the health workers, emergency staff, security personnel is both deeply emotional and heart warming .
The most touching video clip I saw was a poor rag picker who was seen clapping standing on the road near a luxurious apartment complex (and it is from places like these the rich & mighty try to dodge the health workers). Looks like the clarion call of Modi has been answered by the aam admi in all its gusto. Today I realized that why this man manages to pull votes :lol:. The only people who kind of kept quiet seems to be the 100% pure Modi-haters who could not try going out to on the streets because they fear people's backlash.
Every single usual suspect with usual baiting posts was met with fierce backlashes on my feed/timeline by lot of even mild mannered and normally dormant junta too
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Modi is reshaping India / The Idea of India in very unusual ways!
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Coronavirus pandemic: Air India crew that helped evacuate Indians ostracised by RWA, airline appeals to treat them with dignity

Air India said in its press release, “It is alarming to note that in many localities, vigilante Resident Welfare Associations and neighbours have started ostracizing the crew, obstructing them from performing their duty or even calling in the police, simply because the crew travelled abroad in the course of their duty. These vigilantes have conveniently forgotten that many a spouse, parent, sibling, child and near and dear one have been brought home safe and secure from affected countries, thanks to the heroic efforts of these Air India crew.”

Air India also said that every precaution was taken to ensure the safety of its screw during the flights abroad that were made. Sanitizers, gloves and masks in ample amounts were also provided to the crew during the flights. “Crew members who are landing into India from affected cities are sent on home quarantine and also to designated hospitals for check-up as part of the protocol,” the press release said.

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When is Shivraj Chauhan taking oath as MP CM?

Hope there're no 'victory' celebrations flouting social distancing rules this time.

Every state lost to BIF becomes a bleeding sore. Chattisgarh's Bastar yesterday saw the ambush and murder of 17 security personnel. Sadly, CT govt is too firmly entrenched to be dislodged. JH maybe ripe for some fun and games however.
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Shivraj Chauhan appointed CM and took oath without social distancing.
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sum wrote:
Sachin wrote: The most touching video clip I saw was a poor rag picker who was seen clapping standing on the road near a luxurious apartment complex (and it is from places like these the rich & mighty try to dodge the health workers). Looks like the clarion call of Modi has been answered by the aam admi in all its gusto. Today I realized that why this man manages to pull votes :lol:. The only people who kind of kept quiet seems to be the 100% pure Modi-haters who could not try going out to on the streets because they fear people's backlash.
Every single usual suspect with usual baiting posts was met with fierce backlashes on my feed/timeline by lot of even mild mannered and normally dormant junta too

I saw a brief clip of this poor man on one of the channels but would somebody please post it?

I agree, this was an unprecedented event. The only time I recall the nation waking up like this was in 1965 when Shastri Ji gave out the 'Jai Jawaan, Jai Kisaan' rallying cry and asked everyone to forego one meal a week. Leaders like LBS and Modi are exceedingly rare.
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Primusji, here is one Link for you.
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Sanju wrote:Primusji, here is one Link for you.
Ah, yes, thank you so much Sanju Ji. Of all the clips, including the one of the grandma with a walker, this one was the most moving.
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at last, there is at least one political guy talking sense :mrgreen:
ANI @ANI · 8h
We will take legal action against those who return from foreign countries & roam freely skipping self-quarantine; their passports will be seized: Tamil Nadu Health Minister C Vijayabaskar.
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chetak wrote:at last, there is at least one political guy talking sense :mrgreen:
ANI @ANI · 8h
We will take legal action against those who return from foreign countries & roam freely skipping self-quarantine; their passports will be seized: Tamil Nadu Health Minister C Vijayabaskar.
What legal action? Parliament of India should declare that these people will be charged with "Attempt to murder"
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Manish_P wrote:If yes, then why not look at alternate methods. Lethal Injection, Gunshot..
Actually Lethal injection into their butt when they sit in the chair. That is like hanging by their own petard.
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After more than 3 months of staged drama by break India forces, Shaheen Bagh has finally been cleared by Delhi Police. Good riddance !
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BIF won a tactical victory here and lost a major strategic battle. Why I say that? - Momo Jihadi ideas are now exposed never like before. Mango non muslims learned it and seen it on Tv. Decades of JNU type education is gone in the light of this truth. Second libarandus are no longeer representing momos and jihadis are doing it. Jihadis will not allow libarandus to come to spokesman of momo position again. That position now belongs to Jihadis. It is the nightmare of libarandus come true.
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https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1242318882074808320
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Detention of National Conference leader Omar Abdullah under Public Safety Act (PSA) has been revoked
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The Mufti is an Baki.
https://twitter.com/arifaajakia/status/ ... 6867798018
Arif Aajakia @arifaajakia

Mufti Naeem, who was against stopping of prayers at mosques gets infected himself by Corona Virus. Was asking people to not to listen to Health official's warnings, is now obeying health officials religiously.
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1242309960643440640
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Delhi: The protest site in Hauz Rani has been cleared by police, amid complete lockdown in the national capital. Prohibitory order under Section 144 Cr PC is in place in Delhi, in the light of #COVID19.
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https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1242278076475527169
ANI @ANI

Delhi: Delhi Police clears the protest site in Shaheen Bagh area, amid complete lockdown in the national capital, in wake of #COVID19
However later ...
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1242312940667035649
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Delhi: Locals gather near the anti-CAA protest site in Shaheen Bagh which was cleared by police today morning, amid complete lockdown in the national capital to prevent the spread of #Coronavirus
Someone is still pushing for confrontation between the Police (Under Union HM) and the protesters. This was the initial intent and still is ...
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https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1242314649854328832
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this is the chinese payback for trump's trade war and the bid to sabotage his election

the US's abdication of its global leadership position and xi's bid to fill the perceived vaccum is just beginning to playout.

xi is squeezing the US and shutting down medical PPE as well as APIs.

The folly of the US putting all its manufacturing eggs in the chinese basket has led them to this sorry pass.

Robbie Gramer@RobbieGramer·5h
Remarkable internal State Department email: An office that coordinates US foreign aid now directing American embassies to urgently ask other countries for help securing medical supplies for the US.


U.S. Appeals to Aid Recipients for Help in Fighting Coronavirus

U.S. Appeals to Aid Recipients for Help in Fighting Coronavirus


Request undercuts Trump’s claim that the U.S. has enough tests and medical equipment.

ROBBIE GRAMER, COLUM LYNCH | MARCH 23, 2020,

The U.S. State Department is instructing its top diplomats to press governments and businesses in Eastern Europe and Eurasia to ramp up exports and production of life-saving medical equipment and protective gear for the United States, part of a desperate diplomatic campaign to fill major shortcomings in the U.S. medical system amid a rising death toll from the new coronavirus.

The appeal comes as European governments are themselves struggling to cope with one of the worst pandemics to spread around the globe since the 1918 Spanish flu. It represents a stark turnaround for the United States, which has traditionally taken the lead in trying to help other less-developed countries contend with major humanitarian disasters and epidemics.

The request could also undercut claims by U.S. President Donald Trump, who has repeatedly insisted that the United States can handle demands for tests and medical equipment on its own, declining to fully implement the Defense Production Act to mandate that U.S. companies produce these products. “We have so many companies making so many products—every product that you mentioned, plus ventilators and everything else. We have car companies—without having to use the act. If I don’t have to use—specifically, we have the act to use, in case we need it. But we have so many things being made right now by so many—they’ve just stepped up,” Trump said at a press conference on March 21.

China, meanwhile, is pushing to refurbish its image by sending its doctors and tens of thousands of medical kits abroad to the countries hit the hardest by the coronavirus, after botching the initial response to the virus, helping lead to its spread across the globe.
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Indo-Pacific News@IndoPac_Info

#THREAD: As #coronavirus recedes in #China, anti-Xi revolt spreads

Mounting opposition fueled by public anger over handling of epidemic

“There stands not an emperor in new clothes but a clown stripped of his clothes but still wants to be an emperor”

As virus recedes in China, anti-Xi revolt spreads

As virus recedes in China, anti-Xi revolt spreads

Party scion attacks 'clown' president amid mounting opposition fueled by public anger over handling of epidemic

By FRANK CHEN
MARCH 23, 2020


Chinese realty tycoon Ren Zhiqiang is known in the Chinese Communist Party for being an outspoken maverick. Ren, former chief of Beijing Huayuan Group, a state-owned developer, again managed to stoke fresh opposition to Chinese President Xi Jinping earlier this month with an opinion piece that went viral. In his tirade crucifying the top leader, Ren called Xi a “clown” and likened him to the emperor in the famous story by Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen.

Ren, a member of the party’s princeling clique whose father served as a deputy commerce minister under Mao Zedong, did not mince his words when deprecating Xi’s handling of the pneumonic plague in a post headlined “An official call to arms against Xi: The clown who insists on wearing the emperor’s new clothes.”

He said it was “a whistle in the wind” for Xi and his underlings to muzzle people’s simmering anger amid the rampant cover-ups and underreporting following the viral outbreak in Wuhan that began at the end of 2019, and that Xi himself deserved a fair share of the blame due to his inaction and measures implemented too late.
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Chetakji,

^Ren Zhiqiang has 'disappeared'.
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Lisa wrote:Chetakji,

^Ren Zhiqiang has 'disappeared'.

reports of him being in a "secret" prison.

cheeni democracy in play, Lisa ji.
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chetak wrote:
Lisa wrote:Chetakji,

^Ren Zhiqiang has 'disappeared'.

reports of him being in a "secret" prison.

cheeni democracy in play, Lisa ji.
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Crystal ball gazing.

As isolation and free time bites in the following is what's going to happen:
  1. People are going to flood social media with jokes
  2. People are going to start complaining of how life got affected
  3. BIF 》Light Green 》Liberandus 》 Start rona dhona - "Imagine if one week of isolation can cause this what those fits with 200 days of isolation in Kashmir would be facing? "
Starting in 8, 7,6, ...
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Lisa wrote:Chetakji,
^Ren Zhiqiang has 'disappeared'.
He has to make up his mind. Is Eleven the emperor, a clown or just Winnie the Pooh? Ren will have some time in his hand now.
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Some rumours on social media about 'Foreign peacefuls' found hiding in mosques in North India including Uyghurs is that true!!
If it is then, chalo accha hua corona is helping to identify these guys!!
Not long before leftist/liberandu/peacefuls start squealing about police checks and excesses
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g.sarkar wrote:
Lisa wrote:Chetakji,
^Ren Zhiqiang has 'disappeared'.
He has to make up his mind. Is Eleven the emperor, a clown or just Winnie the Pooh? Ren will have some time in his hand now.
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The normally pro-Beijing London FT, now owned by the Nikkei, is rather uncomfortable with the PRC these days.

https://www.ft.com/content/efdec278-6d0 ... 503995cd6f

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Lisa wrote:Chetakji,

^Ren Zhiqiang has 'disappeared'.
If you strike a king, you must kill him
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Yeah.............. Treason is unforgivable........... except if you win :D
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Rsatchi wrote:Some rumours on social media about 'Foreign peacefuls' found hiding in mosques in North India including Uyghurs is that true!!
It is not a rumour, it is true. Find the below news link. Yes, lots of illegals and smugglers (like the one in Kerala) is also getting exposed due to Corona/COVID-19. 12 persons including foreigners, hiding in mosque, apprehended in Patna
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Rsatchi wrote:Some rumours on social media about 'Foreign peacefuls' found hiding in mosques in North India including Uyghurs is that true!!
If it is then, chalo accha hua corona is helping to identify these guys!!
Not long before leftist/liberandu/peacefuls start squealing about police checks and excesses
I have a video clip where these people (12+) were caught in Patna (Bihar) when local (Hindus) reported them. You can hear people cursing "Mian log". T
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These were Uighars
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https://cyclicmint.com/hey-ram-12-forei ... also-sick/

New Delhi: 12 foreign Muslims have been arrested in Patna, the capital of Bihar. All are from Germany or Italy. Police is conducting a thorough investigation about these foreigners caught from the mosque of Kurji Mohalla in Patna.

There were 12 foreign nationals hiding in the mosque located near Gate number 74 of Kurji, Patna. All have come to Patna in connection with the propagation of religion. They are especially spreading the relevance of de-addiction and religion. When the people of the neighborhood got information about this, they started committing uproar. People said that the corona is spread and foreigners are kept hidden here. Police came on notice of the uproar and took all the foreign nationals with them. <! –

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However, to prevent the infection of coronavirus, the state government has decided to lockdown by 31 March. On Monday, the lockdown seems to be ineffective in many areas of Patna on the first day. Fish, meat and paan shops opened in Agamkuan, Kadamkuan Nala Road and Patel Nagar. People were seen walking around and chatting. People were seen riding on the roof of the bus at the Mithanpur bus stand.

By 31 March, after the decision of lockdown, a large number of people are going to their village. On Monday, there was a crowd of people at the Mithapur bus stand in Patna. People could sit on the terrace if they could not find a place to stand inside the bus. People are traveling to risk their lives so that they can return to their villages. People are also being charged arbitrary rent.

So far, two corona patients have been found in Bihar. 13 new patients suspected of corona have been admitted to the PMCH in 24 hours. Their sample has been sent for investigation. 520 people who have come to Bihar from other countries have been put on surveillance. 119 suspected patients have been placed in isolation. The OPD of Patna AIIMS has been closed indefinitely. Only emergency patients are being treated here.

Even after the lockdown, people gathered at a wedding ceremony in a community hall in Patna City on Sunday night. The police took quick action and removed the people and sealed the community hall. The wedding ceremony was completed in the presence of 5-6 people.

There is no effect of lockdown in Phulwari. The shops are open. People are roaming the market. The draft did not show the effect of lock down. Shops opened, the operation of vehicles on the road continued as before. Shops opened and trains also started running in the morning. Later, the police stopped the vehicles and closed the shops. Lockdown did not show any effect in Fatuha. Autos, trucks and other vehicles are running here. The shops are open. Public vehicles in Bakhtiyarpur are running a halt. Shops are also open.
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Here is the video of these corona infected Uighars muslims hiding in a mosque in Patna.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1242089357646888964
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I see one glaring flaw in this lock down, why keep the stock market open, so rich and FII can short the market, I think this very unfair when the Retail investor does not have access to Business cash collections he is allowing the rich and FII mint money by shorting the market. If the country is in lockdown- shut the bloody stock market.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ma ... s?from=mdr
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Aditya_V wrote:I see one glaring flaw in this lock down, why keep the stock market open, so rich and FII can short the market, I think this very unfair when the Retail investor does not have access to Business cash collections he is allowing the rich and FII mint money by shorting the market. If the country is in lockdown- shut the bloody stock market.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ma ... s?from=mdr
Your argument and conclusion are both wrong. The financial system needs to be kept as stable as possible in order to support the operation of essential services rather than induce financial panic on top of everything else. We are the world's third biggest economy, with a total stock market capitalization of close to $3 trillion. It's not a little monopoly money arcade like TSP's markets. The damage in terms of voluntary restriction of activity can be made by with extra weekend and holiday work days during the rest of the year, following provision of UBI and tax rebates for the short term.
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Aditya the market needs to be kept open to react as needed. Otherwise, losers will be subsidized by the lockdown.
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Rsatchi wrote:Some rumours on social media about 'Foreign peacefuls' found hiding in mosques in North India including Uyghurs is that true!!
If it is then, chalo accha hua corona is helping to identify these guys!!
Not long before leftist/liberandu/peacefuls start squealing about police checks and excesses

It's quite true and all over India.

Also need to find out who gave visas and why? And how they spread out to the distant parts of India.

I see Turdogon's hand in the transmission of Turkic Islam now that Wahabi is cut off.
This one is more dangerous as it was the Turks' conquest that lasted till Marathas.
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People from Indonesia were from in TS and TN states. We need to look at their visas etc. Jamat gangs are as active in TN as they are in UP and other north states.
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ramana wrote:I see Turdogon's hand in the transmission of Turkic Islam now that Wahabi is cut off.
This one is more dangerous as it was the Turks' conquest that lasted till Marathas.
Sir, but weren't the Mughals and their ilk central-Asian Turkic (modern day Turkmenistan), and not actually from Turkey? From our Turkey dhaaga, I am given to understand that the Turks from modern-day Turkey themselves are of Greek descent with some indigenous Anatolian and Kurdish culture, having been converted by the Turkic hordes from Central Asia. So these ersatsz Turks claiming some past glory and rule over India is a fiction at best.
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