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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 13:20

Aditya_V wrote:While can question Indian Military integrity by stating that Surgical strikes were false- and many ex forces, family members are ok with thier intergrity being questioned, the PM a psychopath- it is just the media coverage which blinds people. Complete silence on how after BJP lost Jharkand, Maoists beheaded 7 tribals since the parties they favoured won elections, political murders in TN, Delhi all whitewashed.

Inconvenient murders, rapes crimes are completely whitewashed by media is one of the reasons we dont have a fair debate in this country.

Anyway JNU stunt where they are recovered from supposedly dangerous injuries within a few days has paid off.

Modi has media as the his biggest opponents. They whitewash opposition omissions/commissions and highlight/invent omissions/commissions of BJP.

Kujli's investment in Delhi media has certainly paid off handsomely!

https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/1227197810195361793
Press Trust of India @PTI_News

We were zero earlier, are zero now, so it's a BJP defeat not ours: Congress leader and Punjab cabinet minister Sadhu Singh Dharamso on Delhi Assembly poll results #DelhiResults
CONgress scaling new heights of idiocy everyday! No wonder they continue to sink. While BJP will recover, CON hemorrhage will likely continue in the future.

Thaak hai.

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Postby Aditya_V » 12 Feb 2020 13:30

And the bright side is 39% of vote out of 62.6% voted for BJP, so 25% of voting age population is with BJP, I think with time another 10% will realise that this Free Bus travel, free metro etc is not sustainable. People will see the truth, as long as AAP is just in Delhi and no show in LS, it is ok.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 13:34

More "sickular kaaamooonaaal" gyan ... from sickular gyanis

https://twitter.com/DilliDurAst/status/ ... 0010533888
Shivam Vij @DilliDurAst

There is no such thing as soft Hindutva. Anyone who uses the term soft Hindutva will get one right desi slap from me. Going to a temple to pray is not Hindutva, soft or hard. It is Hindu. If praying at a temple is soft Hindutva, is offering namaz soft Islamism?

See bhat Mudi has done? Now, AAP "sickular" leaders and supporters are redefining "soft hintutva" to "being Hindu". How forced then into contorting such mental gymnastics?

BTW, read the replies on the thread by other "great sickularist". Bhery entertaining. A great churn is happening in the sickular camps these days but especially after the victory of kujli. All b'cos of that bleddy Mudi.

https://twitter.com/slickenteur/status/ ... 9101827072
slick @slickenteur

BJP's biggest political accomplishment is that they've absolutely annihilated the left of centre political spectrum. Every ambitious party is now forced to play on BJP's pitch of Hindutva and nationalism (even if pretence), this therefore will force BJP to raise the bar higher...

Gleat sickularist like AAP's Ashutosh and dalals jurnos like Shivam Vij have started accepting that what was soft Hindutva or kaaamooonaaal before is now seekoolar .. things like temple hopping, calling on Hanuman ji's help for elections and thanking Hanumanji for victory.

#MudiHaiToMumkinHai

Seems like Madison Boxer was celebrating AAP victory in the studios yesterdin.
https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1227222681822453760
iMac_too @iMac_too

Boxer bhai @sardesairajdeep, why did you delete this one?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby hnair » 12 Feb 2020 13:51

An article in print.in that has some familiar anti-modi tropes, but does bring forth a point or two on how AAP did things very carefully

5 reasons why Modi-Shah’s BJP lost to Arvind Kejriwal’s AAP in Delhi election

Gujarat model-style story
TWO – Remember the Gujarat model? The national election took place in 2014, but I began getting APCO emails containing data and endorsement about the investment climate in Gujarat way back in 2012. The narrative was being built that far back. By 2014, Modi was already a larger-than-life figure who had in public perception turned around Gujarat and made it into a Shanghai-like success – with low crime, high investment, better roads, clean river, prosperous agriculture. He was the man India was waiting for. The beleaguered Congress, which began its campaign only in 2014, could do nothing to dislodge what was part mythology — the Gujarat model.

Similarly, the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) government also began its mohalla clinic and school reforms narrative way back in 2018. This went politically unchallenged for too long. The BJP did nothing to counter the AAP’s campaign of happy schools and neighbourhood healthcare early enough. Perhaps it was too complacent, relying too heavily on the Modi magic to yield results like always. Kejriwal was building his own version of vikas-purush (development man) model. The BJP’s sting operations around government schools came too late.


The mohalla clinics and schools had huge holes in their implementation and BJP did not bring it out early on.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 12 Feb 2020 14:02

Post by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar
Congratulations to Arvind Kejriwal
for a landslide victory. He has done remarkable work in education & healthcare and won the hearts of people amidst big challenges. I wish him good health and success in his future endeavors.


Is he also a AAP supporter ? Is he also a BIF Loving new age Guru ?
Is he also speaking out of his ass having no idea of disruptive, fake, anarchists tendencies of Arvind Kejriwal ?

PS: Maybe BJP lost once again in Delhi due to campaign issues only as AK actually did diddly squat in Delhi to deserve a landslide.

**Highlighting and coloring mine.

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Postby Vikas » 12 Feb 2020 14:04

Those who did not like the results of Delhi are hoping that govt will find it hard to fund it schemes within 6 months just like some have this wishful thinking of SS led govt crashing in 2 years time frame.

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Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 14:07

Another example of high on IQ but devoid of logic. No wonder Modi beats the heel out of such people.

https://twitter.com/PChidambaram_IN/sta ... 1685472256
P. Chidambaram @PChidambaram_IN

The Delhi vote is close to an All India vote than to a state-specific vote. Because Delhi is a mini India.
And he is celebrating that because BJP lost ..
https://twitter.com/pallavict/status/12 ... 7550767107
Pallavi @pallavict

Replying to @PChidambaram_IN

So now if we extrapolate Congis votes in Delhi to all India, you may perhaps not even qualify to be a national party

In Delhi, Cong got 3 % votes, 0 seats & 63 candidates lost their deposits

Sad to see this happen just 5 yrs after the 15 yrs rule of Sheilaji

When fear or envy clouds you judgement and high IQ but low common sense leads to such you get a Chidambaram like brainwave.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 14:11

Vikas wrote:Those who did not like the results of Delhi are hoping that govt will find it hard to fund it schemes within 6 months just like some have this wishful thinking of SS led govt crashing in 2 years time frame.

Delhi and Maha situations are very different.

Delhi is a 3/4 majority government where as Maha is a 3-way coalition of contradictory political instincts with a simple majority.

Kujli is not at risk unless there is an internal revolt no matter what his performance where as Maha government is sitting in a power keg likely to blow out anytime and with enough issues for a determined opposition to light the fuse.

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Postby Vikas » 12 Feb 2020 14:14

hnair wrote:An article in print.in that has some familiar anti-modi tropes, but does bring forth a point or two on how AAP did things very carefully

[url=https://theprint.in/opinion/5-reasons-why-modi-shahs-bjp-lost-to-arvind-kejriwals-aap-in-delhi-election/362877/?fbclid=IwAR2XymxTZ4NjYInZeC7C6eNuFyvk_0uZvjZeqWSHN8uQOnSHnLPIyJqIwAY]5 reasons why Modi-Shah’s BJP lost to Arvi……. Kejriwal was building his own version of vikas-purush (development man) model. The BJP’s sting operations around government schools came too late.


The mohalla clinics and schools had huge holes in their implementation and BJP did not bring it out early on.[/quote]

Nair Ji, By all local accounts, Govt schools and Clinics in Delhi were doing far better than what they were 8-10 years ago.
There maybe a picture or a random story there about to mock them but overall, there are very few success stories of Indian state delivering basic services to the common man without corruption (i.e. Before advent of Modi ji).

What resonates most with poor and lower middle class is Health, electricity, water, schooling and roof over the head and
it did with Kejriwal. Landslides twice in a politically enlightened population is no small feat of fake or scam. He also has no captive vote bank like BJP has or Congoons had.

Inflation which matters the most is tied to central govt and unprecedented rise in Onion and tomato prices recently did not add to BJP story.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 14:17

https://twitter.com/prasannavishy/statu ... 1049785348
Prasanna Viswanathan @prasannavishy

Saffron Lining In AAP’s Victory: How BJP Lost The Delhi Battle But Is Winning The Ideology War @haryannvi

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/saffro ... eology-war via @swarajyamag

https://twitter.com/gchikermane/status/ ... 7536285696
Gautam Chikermane @gchikermane

"Hindutva knows the party of its first choice losing an election is fleeting defeat, but the ideology sending deeper and wider roots is lasting victory." https://firstpost.com/politics/a-saffro ... 29171.html

Well-argued analysis of #DelhiElections by @abhijitmajumder

Soft Hindutva is the new seecooolar!

Everyone seems to get it except out scared and fearful yinduvadis who go stone cold even at the hint of a fart.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 12 Feb 2020 14:21

pankajs wrote:
Vikas wrote:Those who did not like the results of Delhi are hoping that govt will find it hard to fund it schemes within 6 months just like some have this wishful thinking of SS led govt crashing in 2 years time frame.

Delhi and Maha situations are very different.

Delhi is a 3/4 majority government where as Maha is a 3-way coalition of contradictory political instincts with a simple majority.

Kujli is not at risk unless there is an internal revolt no matter what his performance where as Maha government is sitting in a power keg likely to blow out anytime and with enough issues for a determined opposition to light the fuse.


Pankaj,
IMO, Maha govt will not fall till 4th year as the glue of power and money holds everyone together and all the parties in this Gathbandhan have shown that these 2 factors over ride any other factor.
The loss of income streams was hurting Cong and NCP badly while ego trip of UT will not let him sacrifice the govt for any principle. Maha is large enough to accommodate every ones greed.

Again IMO, Kejri will be a better administrator this time as he has seen that work on the ground pays off (Atleast that's what he believes in that he has performed on the ground).
Merely whining about Modiji and taunting him will not take him anywhere and Congress is no longer a player in NCR anymore. In no place where there were more than 2 parties could congress make a comeback and slowly gets cannibalized by allies and well wishers.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 12 Feb 2020 14:23

pankajs wrote:h
Soft Hindutva is the new seecooolar!

Everyone seems to get it except out scared and fearful yinduvadis who go stone cold even at the hint of a fart.


So the needle has moved more towards right and saffron is the new Red.
But honestly do Hindus get influenced by someone doing temple runs right before elections a la Pappu. I have my doubts.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 14:28

Vikas wrote:
pankajs wrote:Delhi and Maha situations are very different.

Delhi is a 3/4 majority government where as Maha is a 3-way coalition of contradictory political instincts with a simple majority.

Kujli is not at risk unless there is an internal revolt no matter what his performance where as Maha government is sitting in a power keg likely to blow out anytime and with enough issues for a determined opposition to light the fuse.


Pankaj,
IMO, Maha govt will not fall till 4th year as the glue of power and money holds everyone together and all the parties in this Gathbandhan have shown that these 2 factors over ride any other factor.
The loss of income streams was hurting Cong and NCP badly while ego trip of UT will not let him sacrifice the govt for any principle. Maha is large enough to accommodate every ones greed.

Again IMO, Kejri will be a better administrator this time as he has seen that work on the ground pays off (Atleast that's what he believes in that he has performed on the ground).
Merely whining about Modiji and taunting him will not take him anywhere and Congress is no longer a player in NCR anymore. In no place where there were more than 2 parties could congress make a comeback and slowly gets cannibalized by allies and well wishers.

There is money and there is ego and ego beat money many times. That is why a coalition government is unstable.

Why else did coalition government fail at the center when there was amble money to go around?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 14:29

Vikas wrote:
pankajs wrote:h
Soft Hindutva is the new seecooolar!

Everyone seems to get it except out scared and fearful yinduvadis who go stone cold even at the hint of a fart.


So the needle has moved more towards right and saffron is the new Red.
But honestly do Hindus get influenced by someone doing temple runs right before elections a la Pappu. I have my doubts.
They don't get scared enough to jump ship and vote Modi!

The old "soft Hindutva" and the new "seekoolar" brand of bolitics is about not scaring Hindus by doing all kinds of nautanki including thanking Hanimanji for victory.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Bart S » 12 Feb 2020 14:39

Vikas wrote:
pankajs wrote:h
Soft Hindutva is the new seecooolar!

Everyone seems to get it except out scared and fearful yinduvadis who go stone cold even at the hint of a fart.


So the needle has moved more towards right and saffron is the new Red.
But honestly do Hindus get influenced by someone doing temple runs right before elections a la Pappu. I have my doubts.


I believe that the fancy term for it is 'Overton Window'. Globally there has been a clear shift to the right, for the Overton window but in India where parties considered centrist have been in reality far-left at least for the past 3 decades, it has been more of a correction towards being more centrist (when looked at overall) rather than what can be called right-wing, despite the rantings of the global media. The BJP is certainly nationalist (at least under Modi; can't say the same about the previous dispensation with the likes of Advani, Shourie, Jaswant etc), but not right-wing in any shape or form except perhaps for the vocal religious yahoos who grab attention from time to time. On economic policies, sadly, they remain stubbornly socialist.

I think the plus point from the Delhi elections is that at least clear evidence that the population at large is still nationalist, and anti-national/tukde-tukde/anarchist narrative does not sell. Kejriwal is clearly doing taqqiya and I am not sure that his basic tendencies have changed, but the fact that he had to toe the nationalist line or at least not openly oppose it, in order to survive, is a good sign. Ultimately neither the BJP nor AAP or any other party matters (here I disagree with the political party fanboys on this thread) - as long as the population in general has their heart in the right place nationalism-wise nothing can stop our onward march.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 12 Feb 2020 15:16

Nikhil T wrote:
chetak wrote:
the upsurge of the right is virtually a global phenomenon that has been brought about by scorched earth policies of the loony left that dominated the discourse as well as the narrative for years with no skin in the game.

arun prakash and shiv aroor are mere grains of sand just like the rest and their opinions are as valuable or as useless as personal ideologies wish to make it.

the two are neither influencers nor opinion makers of any great repute and have as much sway on the national polity as strays in the night barking at the passage of a long caravan do.

beyond a very limited audience which in itself is powerless, the two are virtually unknown so quoting them seems counterproductive.


Arun Prakash and Shiv Aroor are not of “great repute” and are like “strays barking in the night”. Okay, got it. :roll:

The known experts and chanakyas haven’t really covered themselves in glory this election.


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The BJP knew that it was not winning this one.

and yet they fought like they were going to. That is what leaders do.

people should stick to their areas of expertise or be open to criticism like every one else.

arun prakash and shiv aroor are far out of their limited comfort zone if they are commenting on politics. The mango man does not know of these guys and they couldn't care less. These guys may have a small and niche following, if at all.

the shiv aroor types need to kiss a lot of frogs for their "access" to defense matters. So these types cannot really afford to be independent thinkers.

so when you have guys of “great repute” toeing one line or the other, opinions tend to get colored by group speak and hence the “strays barking in the night” at passing caravans.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Aditya_V » 12 Feb 2020 15:45

Lets see I still dont agree with free Bus and Metro rides to women, someone has to foot the bill?, Eb 200 units is Ok. I bet within 1 year the Delhi Cm will be back on false Dharna again complaining against the LG and then will try to blame Center.

The INC left huge Debts for Modi but he cant go on Dharna's can he.
Ultimately he will have to either increase Taxes- Fuel or Liquor or roll back some his freebies. This will happen sooner or later.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sajo » 12 Feb 2020 16:05

Aditya_V wrote:The INC left huge Debts for Modi but he cant go on Dharna's can he.
Ultimately he will have to either increase Taxes- Fuel or Liquor or roll back some his freebies. This will happen sooner or later.


Or plug in the leaks in the system. This is the main perception that I got from the Dilliwalas I have been interacting with. That Kejriwal has made the corrupt system efficient enough to make the freebies self sustaining and they are here to stay. My Sikh friends on FB, people who live across the world, all uniformly address Kejriwal as "Sir" while routinely sharing party propaganda. As of now, Kejriwal is treading a fine line to not appear either BIF or Indic, but sooner or later, if they really have to, Modi-Shah will push him into a corner and force him to reveal which side he is playing on. I have a feeling they arent really attempting to do so anymore, and are content to keeping him confined to Delhi and also his hands full.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Gerard » 12 Feb 2020 17:09

I read where Delhi is running a fiscal surplus. The direct subsidies are apparently at the expense of capital expenditure by the state government.

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Postby greatde » 12 Feb 2020 17:17

Imo, Modi is the 1st/2nd choice for 60% of Hindus. That's a pro and con, as if another viable options comes, he resorts to being 2nd choice. 30% Hindus are probably a point of no return, and will never vote BJP. Thus, I feel it's not possible to always ask votes on your own work, and it's equally important to show the problems, issues, dirt of the opposition. Most BJP leaders just get into action mode near the election, instead of building a continues 5 years of some opposition anti-incumbency. Obviously, media doesn't help as it doesn't bring the same accountability with BJP and non-BJP governments. We see 100 days, 1 year reports of BJP governments but not of other states.

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Postby Aditya_V » 12 Feb 2020 17:29

Yes Delhi, due to its entirely Urban nature has a revenue Surplus and has a large share from Central Taxes. With Central Government taking care of law and Order, its kind of like one of the easier states to Govern. If any BIg city is made into a state it should also have a revenue Surplus. Like Pondicherry will always have lower taxes than Tamil Nadu.

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Postby Rony » 12 Feb 2020 17:43

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I love the way they openly fool people with help of Media

This is not the first time, It will not be last time
This shows What is the level of our understanding
Shaheen Bagh is EMPTY as it was created for Delhi Election

Now No Gargi College, No JNU for next 2-3yrs
USE UR BRAIN

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Postby Rony » 12 Feb 2020 18:48

May be Manoj Tiwari should be replaced by Vijender Gupta

Vijender Gupta: The one man army of BJP who won amid Kejriwal wave in 2015 and 2019 and 2020

Gupta, who faced constant humiliation by the AAP in the last five years, as he was the only one to stand against 67 legislators of the party, is among those who stood up to AAP’s hooliganism in Delhi legislative assembly. He is so popular among the voters of his constituency that the voters voted for him despite the fact that they knew AAP is going to win the Assembly election and Kejriwal is going to be the next chief minister. The people voted for him even despite dissatisfaction with BJP.

Gupta can be made the Delhi BJP chief, as he comes from Vaishya community, which is very influential in the city.

Making Tiwari Delhi unit chief did not go well with cadre and the other senior leaders of Delhi BJP like- Vijay Goel, Satish Upadhayay, Vijender Gupta. Manoj Tiwari’s leadership did not go well with the Delhi’s Punjabi and Baniya community, which have traditionally voted for BJP. Although Tiwari won the northeast Delhi Lok Sabha seat riding on Modi wave, but, he has not won Purvanchali votes for BJP in the assembly election.

BJP should look for a new candidate for the role of Delhi BJP chief and chief ministerial face for the next assembly election. As the city is dominated by Jat, Gujjar, Punjabi, Sikh and Vaish community, Gupta can be ideal candidate to lead the party’s state unit again.

Gupta keeps a low key in media but has huge popularity among the people of Delhi. He can lead the party better than people like Major Tiwari who is turncoat and being a Purvanchali is abhorred by the Punjabis and Jats of Delhi. Gupta comes from right caste, community, and region.

Under his watch, the party can take on Kejriwal who is eyeing at the Vasihya community votes. Making Gupta head of Delhi BJP will keep the coffers of state unit filled as the people from the community are rich and ready to donate for the cause. Therefore, Gupta, who won the second term despite Kejriwal wave, is the right man to lead the party.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby sajo » 12 Feb 2020 19:06

Lest we forget, a reminder on who actually bankrolls AAP.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/a ... 2017-06-05

https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... s/1338269/

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/another-a ... e-homeland

Its just that Kejri's handlers have realised the power of taqiyya in the face of formidable Hindu consolidation, and have amended their instructions accordingly.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ArjunPandit » 12 Feb 2020 19:37

the thing with vijender is that he cant be the doyen of media and he doesnt have a strong agenda ....its a tragedy that the party with leaders like jaitley and sushma swaraj can't find a decent leader with vision for a state like delhi...my suggestion will be to build it ground up rather than top down..like minakshi lekhi for areas like south delhi and central delhi..vijendar gupta and kailash mishra for north and north west delhi..outer delhi have to be guys like parvesh verma and perhaps a towering central figure..the only thing is..if its worht it..

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Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 19:40

Note the hatemongers and neutral presstitutes celebrating AAP victory in Delhi.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 19:45

https://twitter.com/Abhina_Prakash/stat ... 5981469700
Abhinav Prakash @Abhina_Prakash

Delhi results consolidate right-ward shift of Indian polity. Opinion polls suggest that large no of voters who supported AAP endorse BJP’s ideological viewpoint. AAP did not challenge this ideological worldview writes ⁦⁦⁦⁦⁦@rahul_tverma

https://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis ... BWfzM.html

Another writeup in Hindustan time that notes the right-ward shift of Indian voters and AAP's endorsement of this new sentiment of the masses.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 12 Feb 2020 19:47

ArjunPandit wrote:the thing with vijender is that he cant be the doyen of media and he doesnt have a strong agenda ....its a tragedy that the party with leaders like jaitley and sushma swaraj can't find a decent leader with vision for a state like delhi...my suggestion will be to build it ground up rather than top down..like minakshi lekhi for areas like south delhi and central delhi..vijendar gupta and kailash mishra for north and north west delhi..outer delhi have to be guys like parvesh verma and perhaps a towering central figure..the only thing is..if its worht it..


unfortunately, the only thing towering about all these guys is their monumental egos.

none of them are team players and each one of them if not given sole primacy is actively willing to sabotage the others

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Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 20:15

https://twitter.com/PChidambaram_IN/sta ... 1823112193
P. Chidambaram @PChidambaram_IN
AAP won, bluff and bluster lost. The people of Delhi, who are from all parts of India, have defeated the polarising, divisive and dangerous agenda of the BJP

I salute the people of Delhi who have set an example to other states that will hold their elections in 2021 and 2022
Was trolled by his own party member
https://twitter.com/Sharmistha_GK/statu ... 6642465793
Sharmistha Mukherjee @Sharmistha_GK

With due respect sir, just want to know- has @INCIndia outsourced the task of defeating BJP to state parties? If not, then why r we gloating over AAP victory rather than being concerned abt our drubbing? And if ‘yes’, then we (PCCs) might as well close shop!
Duly supported by a "neutral" jurno on the CON beat
https://twitter.com/_pallavighosh/statu ... 5883262976
pallavi ghosh @_pallavighosh

Replying to @Sharmistha_GK and @INCIndia

Bang on sharmistha . I find so many cong netas praising aap today - as if they won the battle -

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 12 Feb 2020 20:42

if they can we can :mrgreen:

but instead, we have counseling sessions & "deradicalisation" programs for them


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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 20:57

Ekdum Latust contortion ...

https://twitter.com/chetan_bhagat/statu ... 5977047040
Chetan Bhagat @chetan_bhagat

Hindutva got split today.

There's toxic Hindutva {BJP variety}

There's non-toxic Hindutva {AAP variety}

Both have their takers.
So now "soft Hondutva" is "non-toxic Hindutva" and that "Hindutva" will be mainstreamed and no longer an object of hate and ridicule! So Hindutva will now become cool as in see.cool.lar. Wah Moti jeee wah.

#MudiHaiToMumkinHai

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby CRamS » 12 Feb 2020 21:15

Guys, prior to the Delhi polls, I did not see this video by crazy urging BJP voters and Pappu slaves to vote for him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6MECcZrWFo

Seems like a reasonable appeal, and I wonder how many actually saw this video. But if in fact masses did and were swayed, I am persuaded that indeed people indeed are discerning and vote differently in local/state and national elections. I still it find it so puzzling as to how the same populace who voted so overwhelmingly for BJP just 8 months ago, all but annihilated them this time, increase in vote share notwithstanding.

The post mortem of Delhi continues. The dominant libarandu theme of course is that 'hate politics' and 'communal polarization' spearheaded by BJP was defeated. Only thing is that facts don't seem to matter in this narrative. That 90% of Muslims voted crazy is not polarization? Hate politics was all visible at Shaheen Bagh. AAPturd Amanatullah's hate videos there for all to see.

Talking of hate, what I find astonishing is how much BIF hates BJP. Their ideology did not win, at least overtly, but boy are having uncontrollable orgasms. Almost as if BJP losing in what can be described as a large municipality election is an aphrodisiac for them. As I said yesterday, interesting to see what BIF has in store as Trump bahadur lands in India. I can bet you, TSP is up to something in collusion with BIF.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 21:24

CRamS wrote:Guys, prior to the Delhi polls, I did not see this video by crazy urging BJP voters and Pappu slaves to vote for him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6MECcZrWFo

Seems like a reasonable appeal, and I wonder how many actually saw this video. But if in fact masses did and were swayed, I am persuaded that indeed people indeed are discerning and vote differently in local/state and national elections. I still it find it so puzzling as to how the same populace who voted so overwhelmingly for BJP just 8 months ago, all but annihilated them this time, increase in vote share notwithstanding.

The post mortem of Delhi continues. The dominant libarandu theme of course is that 'hate politics' and 'communal polarization' spearheaded by BJP was defeated. Only thing is that facts don't seem to matter in this narrative. That 90% of Muslims voted crazy is not polarization? Hate politics was all visible at Shaheen Bagh. AAPturd Amanatullah's hate videos there for all to see.

Talking of hate, what I find astonishing is how much BIF hates BJP. Their ideology did not win, at least overtly, but boy are having uncontrollable orgasms. Almost as if BJP losing in what can be described as a large municipality election is an aphrodisiac for them. As I said yesterday, interesting to see what BIF has in store as Trump bahadur lands in India. I can bet you, TSP is up to something in collusion with BIF.

For the nth time, why is this puzzling? It has happened before in 2014! Did you not follow the news then? Where you out of circulation then and never caught up with the news?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby shravanp » 12 Feb 2020 22:07

pankajs wrote:Ekdum Latust contortion ...

https://twitter.com/chetan_bhagat/statu ... 5977047040
Chetan Bhagat @chetan_bhagat

Hindutva got split today.

There's toxic Hindutva {BJP variety}

There's non-toxic Hindutva {AAP variety}

Both have their takers.
So now "soft Hondutva" is "non-toxic Hindutva" and that "Hindutva" will be mainstreamed and no longer an object of hate and ridicule! So Hindutva will now become cool as in see.cool.lar. Wah Moti jeee wah.

#MudiHaiToMumkinHai



Of course, victory has many takers. So every Tom/Dick/Harry will have his own intellectual position and opinion to make. India's LEFT not-so-intellectuals(pseudo intellectuals) consider themselves as greatest philosophers second to none other than Socrates or Aristotle. Let them live in their bubble.

On a wider note, I think India's democratic system should evolve and prevent creation of new political parties that have potential to cause disruption. Especially when we have a strong traitorous history. Gates can easily breached. Best if we don't create gates! I don't think any outsiders can schema of injecting a vehicle/political party like AAP into UK (Labor/Conservatives) or US (Dems/Reps). Why the barrier should be so low to get in political scene in India ?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 12 Feb 2020 23:06

RAHUL @brickmetal 8h

Delhi..

BJP lost by less than:
100 votes: 8 Seats
1,000 votes:19 Seats
2,000 votes: 9 Seats
Add this seat won 8
It comes to 44 seat

Think what people do when they don't vote .
or
What u get when voting percentage is low

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 12 Feb 2020 23:07

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Kaivalya » 12 Feb 2020 23:16

Rony wrote:Image

I love the way they openly fool people with help of Media

This is not the first time, It will not be last time
This shows What is the level of our understanding
Shaheen Bagh is EMPTY as it was created for Delhi Election

Now No Gargi College, No JNU for next 2-3yrs
USE UR BRAIN

https://twitter.com/mvmeet/status/12274 ... 23777?s=20


+100

Shaheen bagh, JNU, Jamia nonsense was engineered to move the public discourse away from mohalla clinic vs Ayushman Bharath. We have to give credit where it is due : Last election it was a lady crying in national tv about her family izzat, this time it was idiots brandishing guns in the street and firing in the air. Nautanki++ and of course like telengana, ap etc freebie++ still works.

For folks who consider 200 units free power good - we have to ask ourselves, why only 200 free what about next time? Is that sustainable? Plugging holes in other areas providing free electricity is robbing peter to pay paul. If there are leakages they need to be blocked. Same argument goes for 20,000 liters of water.

Here is the stark reminder as the result of Nautanki++, Freebie++
https://m.rediff.com/news/report/over-50-newly-elected-delhi-mlas-have-criminal-cases-polls/20200212.htm

Anyone remember anna hazare movement, 72 pages of sheila fixit criminal expose , nirbhaya etc .? 37 of those aap mlas have serious offences including rape etc. :evil:
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Tanaji » 12 Feb 2020 23:20

chetak wrote:
RAHUL @brickmetal 8h

Delhi..

BJP lost by less than:
100 votes: 8 Seats
1,000 votes:19 Seats
2,000 votes: 9 Seats
Add this seat won 8
It comes to 44 seat

Think what people do when they don't vote .
or
What u get when voting percentage is low


Chetakji this is fake

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 23:20

Found this informative and will watch again if I get time..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3iMPr9izs8
RSS: Myth Vs Reality | Ratan Sharda | Philosophy And Ideology Of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 12 Feb 2020 23:22

Q&A section of the above ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPrB27tYOPU
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