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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 26 Feb 2020 14:04

Vikas wrote:I wonder under which Law does the state run the management of the temple ?
Was this inserted in the original constitution ?

chetak wrote:we have lost out on our own community sponsored services, dharmic educational institutions, cultural institutions and the participation of the larger community in religious festivals

I can answer from a Kerala context. The word "secular" was added to our constituition only in the 1970s (Emergency days to be exact?). Most of the states were raised much before this day. So in 1956 when Kerala state was being carved out of Malabar district of Madras Presidency, Cochin & Travancore princely states a big question came on what would happen to the Hindu temples in the princely states. Even to this day, the big & prestigious temple often having very organized way of conducting festivals etc is found in the areas which were once princely states. That was because these temples were managed by the kings. Both the Travancore & Cochin kings were quite progressive and when they handed over their territory, only thing they wanted was a mechanism to run the temple affairs. They wanted the government to protect & manage them the way they did it. So Devaswom Boards were formed for the temples, and the voting rights to place people where restricted to Hindu (born Hindu was enough, so even a commie will fit the bill) MLAs. And there was also a specially formed Devaswom Bench in Kerala High Court who acted like a vigilance body. Judges on the bench were Hindus.

In the Malabar district (which is today's North Kerala), Hinduism already was facing tough times. This whole area was over run by Tippu's Islamic hordes and then British took over. Tippu's hordes did the Jehad & conversion part, the British just left things as is and focused on the revenue. So what ever little of Hindu temples was left it was managed by some families who once upon in time had the time, money & material to manage the local temple. After 1960s with the land reforms acts and people slowly moving into newer professions families managing temples also became tough.

And over a period of time with the kind of problems faced in temple management, the whole religious aspect started losing its importance. So today no Hindu child is going to learn any thing about his religion by visiting a temple. The temples have no grand schemes to help the poor & destitute. And 'temple committees' are also more interested in celeberating the annual festival in a grand and pompous manner.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 26 Feb 2020 14:11

Mort Walker wrote:Delhi police is under the center, but administration works under Krazywall and Co. AAPturds have to request the center for assistance in law and order.

Can you provide some more information on this please? In the Delhi Police hierarchy the highest ranking uniformed police official is the Commissioner of Police. For routine policing activities he has enough & more powers. He also is the executive magistrate as Delhi is a police commissionarate. Exec Magistrates can even impose Cr.PC 144 based restrictions or order police firings. Since Com.Pol alone cannot do this these activities are also equally distributed amongst the Jt.Commissioners, Addl. Commissioners, Deputy Commissioners and Asst. Commissioners of Police.

So deploying available police force (i.e Dilli Pulis and all its Armed battalions and special units etc.) can be done by the Com.Pol himself. Problems comes when he requires additional help. In this case whom does he approach? If he goes to Khujliwal then de-facto he is reporting into the Delhi government. If he goes to the Lt. Governor of Delhi, then he is reporting to the Central Govt.
S.N. Srivastava Appointed As Delhi's Special Commissioner As City Braves Communal Riots (Outlook report - click at your risk). As per this report Union Ministry has brought in this officer who is part of the AGMUT cadre in IPS.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Manish_P » 26 Feb 2020 14:21

Vikas wrote:Irrespective, Intelligence wing of DP has been found lacking in last few weeks.


Intel Officer's Body Found In Drain In Delhi Locality Hit By Clashes

As violence-hit areas in northeast Delhi, where clashes intensified over controversial citizenship law in the last three days, continue to remain tense, body of an Intelligence Bureau officer - Ankit Sharma - was recovered from a drain today.

Ankit Sharma, a local, was returning home on Tuesday evening when he was allegedly attacked by a mob on the Chand Bagh bridge and beaten to death; his body was later thrown into a drain, according to officials.

His family was looking for him since Tuesday.

After the body was recovered today, Ankit's father, Ravinder Sharma, who also works with the Intelligence Bureau, has accused supporters of an Aam Aadmi Party leader of attacking Ankit and killing him.

Ankit was also shot after he was beaten, Ravinder Sharma told police. The body has been sent for autopsy.


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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 14:45

https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1232353540510830592
iMac_too @iMac_too

National Herald Editor. New memo from HQ in the town

https://twitter.com/ashlinpmathew/statu ... 9721446401
Ashlin Mathew @ashlinpmathew

Imran Hasan of #AamAadmiParty came with 10 goons to remove women protestors from Jaffarabad. They broke parts of stage but the women resisted the attack. The women refused to back down.

When they needed us to win votes, they did not say anything, now they want us out
The violence by #AamAadmiParty goons continue at Jaffarabad metro station. They have dismantled the stage, they have beaten up women and are forcing them to leave #DelhiViolence

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 15:02

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1232358046455611392
ANI @ANI

Former Maharashtra CM & BJP leader Devendra Fadnavis on Waris Pathan's statement: Shiv Sena might be wearing bangles but we are not. If someone says something then he will be given an answer in the same way. BJP has this much power. #Mumbai

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Philip » 26 Feb 2020 15:58

Who is the ultimate authority for law and order in Delhi? It appears that Mr.Mayhem is, not our executive either state or centre from events. I would imagine that the CP ,as in any metro is the boss on the ground and it is his responsibility for preventiing mayhem. He has quite clearly has failed and parroting on TV that normality is returning in the face of media coverage showing the opposite cannot convince people.
In the knowledge that the Central admin. would be handling the Trump visit to the max., there should've been measures to swiftly prevent any rioting or incidents trying to take advantage. The STK orders have come too late after 20+ have died in the violence.
Order must be restored at any cost.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Aditya_V » 26 Feb 2020 17:08

Army can be called in only if Authorities under Delhi Government control call for it. I think rather than Army, Police and CRPF should clamp down.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby fanne » 26 Feb 2020 17:42

How come an IB officer is identified in Delhi and killed?
It sounds just like jk in 1990s.
Was it common info in his neighborhood that he was ib and some aapians outed him? Or aapians owned and operated cctv (the one that outed AS visits) traces and identified him. Then this info was shared with a group that killed him?

There is a cell right there in its formative year, should be tracked and justice brought to them with extreme prejudice. If you leave them out, it will not be the first.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 17:59

pankajs wrote:^^
Not sure about long rope but the genie can be controlled as has been displayed in a much much larger state i.e. UP.

To me it seems, GOI has been caught flat-footed with its focus on Trump's visit. Modi/Shah failed to account for the izlamic initiative especially at a sensitive time. They thought they had it contained at Shaheen Bagh. That probably is the simplest explanation.

However, it is very strange, that when simple folks like us could extrapolate the initial news of the new "occupy street" @ Jaffrabad as aimed to embarrass GOI during Trump's visit, GOI, with all its resources and brain power, including Modi/Shah/Doval/Police/Intelligence/etc, could not forecast the likely path to be taken by Jihadis? :-? That is very strange and confusing.
Here is more on the incompetence of GOI.

https://twitter.com/utkarsh_aanand/stat ... 7873022977
Utkarsh Anand @utkarsh_aanand

#Delhi High Court orders FIRs against four BJP leaders, including Union Minister Anurag Thakur @KapilMishra_IND, Parvesh and Abhay Verma over allegedly inflammatory speeches. HC asks #DelhiPolice Commissioner to register FIRs against others too for hate speeches.
I mean I am not against the FIR registration per say but the GOI went to the court unprepared and was ambushed by a "Urban *****" Judge. That is incompetence right there for you!

The petition was filed by Harsh Mandar via his Lawyer some Gonzalves, both Urban Naxal. The Judge has been on the Delhi HC for 14 years!!! He was just transferred to Chandigarh HC though he does not seem to have taken charge yet. There was a protest by the Delhi Bar against the transferr!!! Can you guess why this Judge was so loved by the urban naxals on this bench? One just has to scan the past judgements delivered by him.

The Chief Justice of Delhi HC was on leave today and this judge/activist/lawyer got a great opening to embarrass the GOI and they have milked it for all it is worth! The governmental lawyer just had no chance infront of such a combination. An absolutely ill-prepared GOI.

It seems take of speech of all 4 BJP members were played in the open court and the government lawyer has no response! Plus, all this while, GOI sat on its backside while propogandist went about provoking the Muslims with far worse language and fake clips! Not a single FIR has been registered against anyone of the hate mongers and fake news spreaders barring Sharjeel Imam (???) from the start of this drama. GOI/Delhi Police has had no intent or time to collect the clips and tweets circulating on the net all this while, forget registering FIRs and now they have been ambushed and the "hate" narrative will be dumped on the BJP! Absolute incompetence!

I am just seething with rage at this open display of incompetence. I know, in the long-run it will not matter, but fake news about a mosque being burnt in Delhi has now been picked up by international media and none of the fake news spreaders have been hauled in. Incidentally, now that the Mosque burning is on AJ, the fake news peddlers have deleted their tweets now that the job is done.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 18:14

Here is another stinker that the urban naxals have managed to achieve ...

https://twitter.com/LiveLawIndia/status ... 8828080134
Live Law @LiveLawIndia

Medical Assistance to Delhi Riots victims: Delhi HC asks highest functionaries in both state and central government to personally meet the victims and their families[/b]

'This is time to reach out and do confidence by building', the court said

#DelhiRiots2020 #DelhiViolence
Just WOW!

What the jihadis could not manage on their own is being arraigned by the urban naxals. The urban naxals will make the central government bend to the jihadis via the courts.

Hopefully, GOI lets the state handle the job and deputes a senior bureaucrat to do the needful. In no case should Modi/Shah venture out of their offices else they will end up legitimizing the protests. Shah's offer of meeting anyone in his office is still open and that should be sufficient.
'This is the time to show that Z Security is for everyone' - Justice Muralidhar

#DelhiRiots2020 #DelhiViolence

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 18:27

https://twitter.com/ShaheenBagh_/status ... 4588877825
Shaheen Bagh Official @ShaheenBagh_

Seeing the extreme volatile situation of capital of India, we are calling for the complete strike of Jamia Millia Islamia and all universities of India tomorrow in order to create massive pressure to the government of India as well as international community.
Was the intentions difficult to judge? Hell NO!

Many of this forum from the very beginning have agreed that the International community is the focus of the protest because they have realized GOI is immune to internal pressures.

At least GOI now needs to absolutely crush the "fear mongers" now that Kapil Mishra's speech has been deemed worthy of an FIR by the Delhi HC. Check all clips from Saheen bang and tweets and file FIR against everyone whose conduct or speech comes close to Kapil Mishra's speech and that includes commedians and bollytards. Cite the Delhi HC order and the bar set by Kapil Mishra's speech.

It is important to crush the urbal naxals more than jihadis.
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Mort Walker » 26 Feb 2020 18:29

^^^That’s his opinion and his injected himself in electoral politics. That said - A police officer, Ratan Lal, died and that should be recognized by MHA. He left behind a wife and 3 kids. Another police/intelligence officer’s body was found in a Delhi drain. We need to pay our respects to these people at the highest level IMHO.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/intelli ... -topscroll

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 18:37

https://twitter.com/VanzaraDg/status/12 ... 6560241666
DG Vanzara @VanzaraDg

Consequent to clean chit received from Judiciary in all Encounter Cases vch were concocted by Anti-National Forces agnst me & Gujarat Police, I am given Post-Retirement Promotion of Inspector General of Police wef 29-09-2007. I am thankful to both Govt of India & Govt of Gujarat.


AFTER spreading fake news and videos, she and her ilks are taking a break and cleaning up their tracks now that some of their fake output has been picked up the international media. Job done for now.
https://twitter.com/_sabanaqvi/status/1 ... 5224157184
Saba Naqvi @_sabanaqvi

I really think it's time to stop sharing videos without verification...

Once verified then share. Don't just share forwards. The situation is v bad.
As she implicitly admits, she was spreading fake news and unverified video till date and is now taking a break.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Yagnasri » 26 Feb 2020 18:48

I think the people of Delhi who voted overwhelmingly to APP while knowing its BIF activities can not now complian about law and order. Riots were in fact organised mainly in BJP MLA localities as per reports. How did it happens?

I was saying from the start that this was/is a externally funded and organised activities similar to "color revolutions". Same play book is being used now. False news campaigns are not new to us but the timing organisational effort on this is massive. Sophistication of the BIF activities is also quite evident.

There need to be massive effort to push back. The aim of the BIF is to stop progress of Bharat and Muslim "leaderhip" are seems to be totally on that side now.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 18:56

Not much effort is required if attention directed at the right place.

1. Media
2. Social Media

Take Kapil Mishra's speech as benchmark and file FIRs across the board including on presstitute and bollytards. Start fining channels for misleading content and be ruthless but objective and let them fight it in the courts. Keep filing FIRs and levying fines on each infraction.

Everything will take care after that. Problem is that Modi seems to believe he can fight them even while allowing them a free hand to pun riots. The riot was provoked by Indians from inside India.
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Mort Walker » 26 Feb 2020 18:57

The BIF need to be disenfranchised.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Mort Walker » 26 Feb 2020 19:03

The problem is that Delhi govt. and MHA don’t have coordination. This isn’t a political problem, but an administrative one. The role of a governor needs to be enhanced like J&K where he/she has a constant handle on law and order.

The problem is that MAD are too nice and let the state government try to handle matters. This was a clear case where dismissal of Delhi government was warranted.

Things could have been a lot worse in Delhi. Rioting combined with a terrorist strike would have shut down the central government. Throw in an attack on the borders, there would have been complete disarray.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sicanta » 26 Feb 2020 19:17

And here I thought that MAD was giving the rioters a long rope to hang themselves with. Instead the rope was used to tie themselves in a binding knot.If they can't handle this, how will they tackle the obvious 3rd front during war with Pakistan or cheenis

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 26 Feb 2020 19:23

pankajs wrote:It is important to crush the urbal naxals more than jihadis.


Agree completely. Its these guys who are preventing any stern action against all sorts of terrorists. I dont know about the 4d chunkian strategy of Modi or Shah. Both have appeared completely caught off wicket by bouncers in this latest event and even the ones before. They seem completely unable to take any action against propagandists who are acting like the foot soldiers of jihad Inc.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 26 Feb 2020 19:25

pankajs wrote:Everything will take care after that. Problem is that Modi seems to believe he can fight them even while allowing them a free hand to pun riots. The riot was provoked by Indians from inside India.


I think all his foreign visits, dependency on FDI have made him completely beholden to the perception that he cant do crap against these guys lest he get called names etc, lose his so called stature. I'd be glad to be proven wrong but the degree of contempt he is openly held in by the foreign press, and the language used by them for him and his voters, the desi academic types abroad, clearly shows they think he can't do squat to them. Xi and the rest of the foreign leader gang with a far far far worse track record, treated with kid gloves in comparison. Why for instance are NYT, Economist, WaPo, NPR, BBC still operating from India with the amount of crooked FUD they have engaged in? What about Dupatta and the rest of the local fibbies? Modi hasnt been able to do squat to them or their sources of funding either or wont. There seems to be a deep desire to still try and seek validation as versus destroying the BIF. The frequent interviews to chaps who loathe the BJP point to a deep seated malaise. Look at the chaps posted to education for instance. Complete jokers one after another. Then the manner in which JNU, AMU, etc were handled.

Quite frankly we gave him a long time, 2014-19 to clean up the dilli media cesspool. He literally did peanuts, and instead AJ was blamed as the reason.

Now its 2020, and the same is going on, with Ayyub, Sherwani and other Islamists and their Leftist appeasers openly inciting mobs and all BJP can do is turn up at election time and attempt to polarize opinion. Its beyond stupid. People will soon start associating his and BJPs inaction with a) deliberate inaction (which many already are) and b ) inability to do so. The latter would place him in MMS territory. Compare and contrast Yogis action in UP vs the action in Delhi, and its a joke. Why would anyone vote for BJP if the party is so craven as to not protect its voters. Better to remain in INC rule with a tacit guarantee their paid for M mobs wouldnt be unleashed on H voters. People respect strength, not sloganeering and speeches beyond a point. The open insurrection of the M mobs now is beyond the pale. Emasculated cops are being forced to get beaten up for Modi's decisions on 370, CAA. If he knew what was coming, he should have prepped the forces accordingly. Instead, I find it shameful to see cops stoned and unable to even respond.

If he can't wield power, he will lose it, and by extension so will his voters. They are at far greater risk for having stuck their necks out in front of a completely hostile ecosystem and unlike him they can't become the leader of an opposition etc either or have some RSS or whatever backing. They lead standard middle class or lower middle class lives and are at risk of either physical violence or other reprisals. He seems clueless at times about that. Always exhorting his supporters to do "more", while handing out sops to the very groups who literally loathe him and India. Sadly, just like his meet and greet Nawaz Sharief stuff which led to nothing, this seems to be another "this time it will be different" belief system which is unable to deal with the fact that all the wheeling dealing can't protect a reputation for toughness which will be seen more and more as a facade.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Manish_P » 26 Feb 2020 19:35

At the very ground level this is just out of the land jehad playbook... territory grab.

The shops and houses burnt will now not be re-occupied quickly. Rather the terrified occupants will prefer to sell it off at whatever prices they can get. Folks from their own community will not touch the properties knowing that they are located on the front lines. So who do you think will offer to buy them other than the friendly neighbour who enabled (if not actively participated in) the action.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 19:37

^^ I think Modi believes he is immune to these temporary fluctuation in fortunes and he is right on that BUT some of the dirt will stick on India/Hindus. Therefore, timely intervention will be required including hauling the urban naxals to courts for spreading enmity via fake news/videos.

https://twitter.com/_sabanaqvi/status/1 ... 3283295232
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I am not one of those who insists @ArvindKejriwal must engage with a debate created by BJP and a problem he did not create nor has power to solve. But he can pass anti #CAA resolution in assembly and announce no NPR in Delhi.

Let Kujli pass anti-CAA and anti-NPR resolutuon in Delhi assembly. I, for one, is eagerly waiting for him to make his move.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 26 Feb 2020 19:39

Modi may believe a lot of things but he is losing a lot of goodwill amongst folks as is the BJP and as is Shah. The standard screaming at the time of elections about how BJP is the only voice for Hindus, and then the zero results thereafter is also not very positive. Just see the plethora of powers available to the Center and how little the BJP has used. Too caught up in image play seems to be the real issue.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby UlanBatori » 26 Feb 2020 19:43

With all doo respect i think the central mantriji who has a Wanted Poster issued by the Delhi HC, was quoted (somewhere) as declaring that all Muslim citizens in India should have been/ should be sent to Pakistan (and all Hindus repatriated from there). Someone needs to explain to him that this was Jinnah's hope not India's. I hope NaMo fires him (if the report is true) and throws him under the bus as an object lesson.

People who are **THAT *&^%$# STUPID*** should not be given BJP neta posts let alone Central Minister posts.
It appears that the "violent Hindu mobs" in Dilli are (at least partly) actually AAPis, not BeeJayPees. Why did they go demolish the protestors' stage rather than get the polis to direct it? I didn't understand that. Fear of govt being dismissed and MAD imposing Prejident Rule?
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 19:44

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/_sabanaqvi/status/1232283733283295232
Saba Naqvi @_sabanaqvi

I am not one of those who insists @ArvindKejriwal must engage with a debate created by BJP and a problem he did not create nor has power to solve. But he can pass anti #CAA resolution in assembly and announce no NPR in Delhi.

Let Kujli pass anti-CAA and anti-NPR resolutuon in Delhi assembly. I, for one, is eagerly waiting for him to make his move.
More ..
https://twitter.com/therealnaomib/statu ... 3342587906
Naomi Barton @therealnaomib

Today I met a man in a hospital who was beaten while he was crossing a road.

They asked him what his name was and he gave a fake Hindu name.

Then they asked him to say the Hanuman Chalisa.

He didn't know it. He was brutally beaten.

@ArvindKejriwal, I'm looking at you.
:rotfl: ... Kujli jee I too am looking at you

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 26 Feb 2020 19:47

UlanBatori wrote:With all doo respect i think the central mantriji who has a Wanted Poster issued by the Delhi HC, was quoted (somewhere) as declaring that all Muslim citizens in India should have been/ should be sent to Pakistan (and all Hindus repatriated from there). Someone needs to explain to him that this was Jinnah's hope not India's. I hope NaMo fires him (if the report is true) and throws him under the bus as an object lesson.

People who are **THAT *&^%$# STUPID*** should not be given BJP neta posts let alone Central Minister posts.


Heck with that. Other people have said 100x worse, actually murdered people and y'all want to throw people with a loose mouth under the bus? All Giriraj Singh said was at the time of partition a larger population transfer may have answered todays issues. Counter him with facts, logic etc. But the M mobs rioting over CAA are actually serving to convince people he was right. Not that helps anyone.

Right now, a low grade civil war is underway, and y'all want to take central ministers scalps while the real perpetrators of violence are making merry. They will only see the above as their tactics having worked or working. Instead, take ruthless action against the mobs and deal with the consequences of that.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 26 Feb 2020 19:49

UlanBatori wrote:With all doo respect i think the central mantriji who has a Wanted Poster issued by the Delhi HC, was quoted (somewhere) as declaring that all Muslim citizens in India should have been/ should be sent to Pakistan (and all Hindus repatriated from there). Someone needs to explain to him that this was Jinnah's hope not India's. I hope NaMo fires him (if the report is true) and throws him under the bus as an object lesson.

People who are **THAT *&^%$# STUPID*** should not be given BJP neta posts let alone Central Minister posts.

Whoever said that was quoting BR Ambedkar, the father of Indian Constitution. Should have given line, para, page and the book to the Delhi HC and asked since when quoting BRA had become a crime?

One reason why I stated that GOI was unprepared. They should have known someone is going to drag them to court and prepared defense.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 26 Feb 2020 19:52

They have had 6 years to prepare. If they are still unprepared, then too many fools in the establishment, period.

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Postby UlanBatori » 26 Feb 2020 19:53

^^ Ah! Thanks. Blatantly malicious misreporting... A child could be forgiven for this. ****BUT**** how is a Mantri so stupid as to not refrain from quoting such stuff in verbal speeches? Born yesterdin? Come on, some of these Mantris are downright National Embarrassments. Modi should put out a notice that anyone found being so stupid will be fired and expelled immediately, no ifs and buts.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 26 Feb 2020 20:29

This is the kind of unrealistic expectation that will ensure we have nobody left on our side period. Foolishness is of planning. Its of lack of ability to decipher the complete hatred and Hinduphobia the left and the fiberal crowd has and how they are in bed with the M extremist crowd. The foolishness is in the craven suck up to gori chamdi media which is operating openly in India and not being shown its place via its sponsors. The foolishness of being six years in and still bleating about how ELM or wagehra is biased. Of not being able to ensure any SM platform treats its voters w/o bias.

The idiocy of letting seditious students run riot and hold colleges hostage w/o even being kicked out. The idiocy of combining arts degrees with STEM/Business degrees when aforesaid arts depts are infested with urban naxals and a central minister appears on TV crowing how he did nothing in his tenure to affect the same. He clearly valued his invites to soirees in dilli more than any idealogical affinity to any nationalist cause. The foolishness is of using SM as a perpetual victim, polarization machine which is now eliciting open contempt as to "if these idiots can't protect their own party workers how will they protect us" type of posts instead of anger and sympathy. That strategy is not even effective as can be seen in Delhi and many states where people voted against the BJP in state elections. The foolishness is in not being able to rebut openly fake news about mob lynching, even bringing in basic facts about cattle rustling or running a national awareness campaign about it.

Their inability to hire a single PR agency to run campaigns against their opponents slick propaganda while rolling in electoral bonds to the tunes of hundreds of crores. All the while everyone engages in self-congratulatory posts about 4D Chunkian earth-e-shaster tactics. All this flows back to Modi. His desire to out Gandhi Gandhi has not worked. The BJP is in a weird mix of nationalism and diffidence which neither its supporters nor opponents respect.

Their inability to wield any state power against corrupt opponents, instead giving them awards and then those opponents give two hoots for the awards and run the BJP out of power. The foolishness of constantly telling the people who voted for the BJP to do more via ham-handed optics at budget time and coming up with babucracy tax measures etc and then messaging it in such a bad manner that it led to a 1000 memes overnight. The FM or the PM having no clue of how to structure any positive measures together for good PR or effect but having them lost in a 100000 words to the minute news-cycle which they have no clue on how to manage. I mean these are basics. Are you telling me the whole advertising or PR industry does not have one nationalist in it, one marketing savvy dude or forget that, even a mercenary who could get their ship in shape?

This apart from the complete mess MSME still finds itself in. Anecdotal accounts aplenty of the chaos that was and is the GST process for ages, the amount of grief SMEs faced due to the credit crunch. Yes, crisis after crisis, but in every incident, there is one common streak. A PM who seems to have literally nobody to lean on and NITI Aayog seem to be toothless tigers still trying to force GOI to hearken to them. A key guy was on record that bureaucrats were still sabotaging attempts to buy local using all sorts of tricks. So 6 years in, the bureaucracy is still not working in full synch with the PM or the party in power? Who is to blame for that? The babus or the party that is in power? Now, they are planning lateral hires? In corporates, this sort of stuff takes a few months to implement. Even by GOI's standards, six years? People would literally volunteer to help this GOI given their emotional attachment. What has the GOI done in return to harness any of that expertise.

Many key reformist measures remain stalled. This Modi Modi Modi stuff has got old. By now he should have had a dozen teams running his affairs for him. But everything still seems to require his personal intervention. From last minute tax cuts for corporates, to haphazard claims around "we will replace China in manufacturing" sort of policy initiatives which have not been implemented or have no timeframe for the same either. The list of stuff stuck is endless.

The foolishness is not in terms of speaking x, y, z which even if they didn't would still be misreported because the media is almost completely anti GOI and this GOI doesn't have the balls to grab its opponents by the same.

Irrespective of what this GOI does, they will be hated, their voters and the nation itself targeted. Why don't they wake up and understand that, and plan accordingly? Strength is respected, decisiveness is as well, provided there is a plan in place to deal with your opponents. They cant seem to even hire a few lobbyists abroad.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Zynda » 26 Feb 2020 21:02

Its a shame that PR stuff is left to numerous Twitter volunteers who actually are doing a half-decent job of it. If not GoI, at least the BJP itself can hire better PR agencies...and what does the numerous think tanks in Delhi do rather than advise GoI on some of these domestic issues?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vidur » 26 Feb 2020 21:09

The situation is concerning so I have decided to share my views as a resident of Delhi and a bureaucrat

1. The game plan is to cower down and emasculate Hindus with long term objective of creating an Islamic State. I do not need to state the consequences of that.

2. In that they are helped with a strong coherent religious philosophy, a secular and divided majority unaware of the threat, a similar bureaucracy, a pro Islamic and pro Leftist judiciary and a completely compromised media.

3. My estimate of India's Muslim population is 20-22 %, Christian is 7-10% about 95 % of whom would be united against Hindus and BJP

4. Shaheen Bag franchise model is being replicated all over India. Intention is to show they own the land and can disrupt citizens lives at will. This is expected to frighten the Hindus and weaken them for the final onslaught. Therefore its important that costs are imposed and this is challenged. Community leaders did the right thing to speak out against it.

5. That it was used as a trigger for riots was inevitable. Muslims had to show that they are stronger on the roads. They dragged people from homes and killed them. Onus of violence is entirely on them. I estimate about 300-400 rounds were fired by rioters. 1 police constable was shot and 1 IB personnel was shot. Even one round fired should be met with police firing. They have been emboldened by weak response and many mosques across the country will relay this message.

6. In this scenario strong decisive action is imperative. Anything else weakens the government. But government has to also prepare the media and IW narrative and execution. That is sorely lacking.

I agree with Karan

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vidur » 26 Feb 2020 21:14

Karan M wrote:This is the kind of unrealistic expectation that will ensure we have nobody left on our side period. Foolishness is of planning. Its of lack of ability to decipher the complete hatred and Hinduphobia the left and the fiberal crowd has and how they are in bed with the M extremist crowd. The foolishness is in the craven suck up to gori chamdi media which is operating openly in India and not being shown its place via its sponsors. The foolishness of being six years in and still bleating about how ELM or wagehra is biased. Of not being able to ensure any SM platform treats its voters w/o bias.

The idiocy of letting seditious students run riot and hold colleges hostage w/o even being kicked out. The idiocy of combining arts degrees with STEM/Business degrees when aforesaid arts depts are infested with urban naxals and a central minister appears on TV crowing how he did nothing in his tenure to affect the same. He clearly valued his invites to soirees in dilli more than any idealogical affinity to any nationalist cause. The foolishness is of using SM as a perpetual victim, polarization machine which is now eliciting open contempt as to "if these idiots can't protect their own party workers how will they protect us" type of posts instead of anger and sympathy. That strategy is not even effective as can be seen in Delhi and many states where people voted against the BJP in state elections. The foolishness is in not being able to rebut openly fake news about mob lynching, even bringing in basic facts about cattle rustling or running a national awareness campaign about it.

Their inability to hire a single PR agency to run campaigns against their opponents slick propaganda while rolling in electoral bonds to the tunes of hundreds of crores. All the while everyone engages in self-congratulatory posts about 4D Chunkian earth-e-shaster tactics. All this flows back to Modi. His desire to out Gandhi Gandhi has not worked. The BJP is in a weird mix of nationalism and diffidence which neither its supporters nor opponents respect.

Their inability to wield any state power against corrupt opponents, instead giving them awards and then those opponents give two hoots for the awards and run the BJP out of power. The foolishness of constantly telling the people who voted for the BJP to do more via ham-handed optics at budget time and coming up with babucracy tax measures etc and then messaging it in such a bad manner that it led to a 1000 memes overnight. The FM or the PM having no clue of how to structure any positive measures together for good PR or effect but having them lost in a 100000 words to the minute news-cycle which they have no clue on how to manage. I mean these are basics. Are you telling me the whole advertising or PR industry does not have one nationalist in it, one marketing savvy dude or forget that, even a mercenary who could get their ship in shape?

This apart from the complete mess MSME still finds itself in. Anecdotal accounts aplenty of the chaos that was and is the GST process for ages, the amount of grief SMEs faced due to the credit crunch. Yes, crisis after crisis, but in every incident, there is one common streak. A PM who seems to have literally nobody to lean on and NITI Aayog seem to be toothless tigers still trying to force GOI to hearken to them. A key guy was on record that bureaucrats were still sabotaging attempts to buy local using all sorts of tricks. So 6 years in, the bureaucracy is still not working in full synch with the PM or the party in power? Who is to blame for that? The babus or the party that is in power? Now, they are planning lateral hires? In corporates, this sort of stuff takes a few months to implement. Even by GOI's standards, six years? People would literally volunteer to help this GOI given their emotional attachment. What has the GOI done in return to harness any of that expertise.

Many key reformist measures remain stalled. This Modi Modi Modi stuff has got old. By now he should have had a dozen teams running his affairs for him. But everything still seems to require his personal intervention. From last minute tax cuts for corporates, to haphazard claims around "we will replace China in manufacturing" sort of policy initiatives which have not been implemented or have no timeframe for the same either. The list of stuff stuck is endless.

The foolishness is not in terms of speaking x, y, z which even if they didn't would still be misreported because the media is almost completely anti GOI and this GOI doesn't have the balls to grab its opponents by the same.

Irrespective of what this GOI does, they will be hated, their voters and the nation itself targeted. Why don't they wake up and understand that, and plan accordingly? Strength is respected, decisiveness is as well, provided there is a plan in place to deal with your opponents. They cant seem to even hire a few lobbyists abroad.


Good points

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 26 Feb 2020 21:25

Thank you sir, just completely dismayed at how their game is still not in place even though their opponents have literally opened up a mini-civil war.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 26 Feb 2020 21:31

UlanBatori wrote:With all doo respect i think the central mantriji who has a Wanted Poster issued by the Delhi HC, was quoted (somewhere) as declaring that all Muslim citizens in India should have been/ should be sent to Pakistan (and all Hindus repatriated from there). Someone needs to explain to him that this was Jinnah's hope not India's. I hope NaMo fires him (if the report is true) and throws him under the bus as an object lesson.

People who are **THAT *&^%$# STUPID*** should not be given BJP neta posts let alone Central Minister posts.
It appears that the "violent Hindu mobs" in Dilli are (at least partly) actually AAPis, not BeeJayPees. Why did they go demolish the protestors' stage rather than get the polis to direct it? I didn't understand that. Fear of govt being dismissed and MAD imposing Prejident Rule?


India was partitioned on the basis of religion and anyone now refuting it is a hypocrite.
The same was first uttered by Sh. Ambedkar too. Why otherwise the land was vivisected.
Perhaps BJP should import oh-so-suave Neta from Congoon and Commies to run the country now.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vidur » 26 Feb 2020 21:31

I agree Karan. Warnings were given like in the letter below but perhaps not taken seriously. One can only hope that issues you raised plus those in the article below are seriously considered.

https://resonantnews.com/2020/02/23/dip ... a-veteran/
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Pratyush » 26 Feb 2020 21:33

When I read the anguished posts on the forum I am reminded of a certain field marshal making the comment that the Hindu moral will not stand more than a few blows.

Be strong and rest assured that action will be taken.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Srutayus » 26 Feb 2020 21:37

Any thoughts on spinning off a think-tank from BR?
Anyone interested in pursuing this thought?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 26 Feb 2020 21:38

If LG of Delhi owns the administrative ops of DP, then he must be replaced once this mayhem subsides.
In the garb of Shaheen bagh, a sinister plan was being cooked which has come to fore in last 2-3 days.
The plan seems to be to create a situation where govt seems incompetent and clueless.
My hunch is that post Godhra stink, Modi Ji might be reluctant to use force on Jehadis or even harsh clamp down.
The sad part is that Modi Ji was elected on one of the pillars being decisive and strong leader yet in this who anti-CAA campaign, he is looking like someone who is vacillating, first with Budget, then Delhi elections and now Trump visit.
Corts seems to be more active and involved than Administration. This time they cant even blame AAP or congress or even Urban naxals.
What happened in courts today shows the kind of incompetent allies and extremely sharp in deep rooted enemies he is dealing with.
One of his key mistake was not to clean up the Babudom in 2014.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 26 Feb 2020 21:43

Pratyush wrote:When I read the anguished posts on the forum I am reminded of a certain field marshal making the comment that the Hindu moral will not stand more than a few blows.

Be strong and rest assured that action will be taken.


Sir, How is that of any solace to people already killed or potentially can get killed in next few days.
How do you even know that action will be taken ?

It is not a question of Moral but that of a govt that seems to be caught napping.
One of the USP of this govt was/is peace and L&O. It seems to be crumbling in last few weeks.
Everyone keeps complaining about Urban Naxals but what has govt done to bring them to justice. All we see is folks like PB having free access to SC for even his constipation.


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