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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 18 Mar 2020 18:01
by pankajs
Well ..well ... I don't have time to research this but IIRC, unless a private members bill had GOI tacit approval it does not get moved!

https://twitter.com/RajeIyer/status/1239796142809837568
RajiAiyer @RajeIyer

A shocking political development escaped many of our notice because of the Scindia & Covid19 hoo haa

Last Friday, Abhishek Manu Singhvi's name [u]was called in the Rajya Sabha for introduction of a private member bill on[/u]..hold your breath
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#PopulationControl

#tuesdayvibes

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 18 Mar 2020 18:32
by Vikas
ricky_v wrote:Wanted to talk about this after the delhi riot(?), but was prescribred mandatory r&r by the mods, does anyone have a handle on anurag thakur? The person has been involved in every major bjp protest and yet has never been charged. I first watched him during the unfurling of the tricolor in J&k during 2008-9(?) when it was jail time for breaking the peace, now he is one of the three to be charged (by the public) with inciting the crowd and even now the limelight is not on him, odd that. He is associated with the bcci as a secretary perhaps, is mos of finance, is conscripted into the territorial army, his father is the former cm of hp,in addition to which he has been awarded with the outstanding mp award. Maybe he is angling towards the arun jaitley chair of cricket-finance combo, but is also never prosecuted by the media, why the discrepancy?


You forgot, He was also drafted into HP Ranji team for just 1-2 matches so that he could qualify for board positions :)
Anyways he is too small a player still for any serious spotlight.
why suddenly him ?and what does "charged (by the public)" mean ???

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 18 Mar 2020 19:03
by CRamS
Guys, whats the latest in MP? From my random news reads, it appears Pappu's slaves are holding on tenaciously. But how long?

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 18 Mar 2020 20:05
by kvraghav
WRT Gogoi appointment, the president appointed MP seats were supposed to be for individuals with significant contribution in any field. Over the years, this has turned into a political appointment and it is now hard for us to believe that some person of merit will be appointed. Even if he is part of famous 4, i still believe he is a highly qualified person and belongs on that seat for his knowledge.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 18 Mar 2020 20:28
by chetak
For preventing Corona virus and to help India progress, there is a common solution - Haath ki safai

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 01:04
by vijayk
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 05:14
by ricky_v
Vikas wrote:You forgot, He was also drafted into HP Ranji team for just 1-2 matches so that he could qualify for board positions :)
Anyways he is too small a player still for any serious spotlight.
why suddenly him ?and what does "charged (by the public)" mean ???

Villified by the public, judgement declaration via social and print media without facts or defense, like regular indian msm stuff. Just curious is all, maybe he will one day ascend the aj memorial chair.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 16:25
by chetak
The main group behind the Sri Lankan bombings, the National Thowheed Jamath (NTJ), was an ideological offspring of this rapidly growing Islamist group in Tamil Nadu -TN Thowheed Jamath (TNTJ).



ANI @ANI · Mar 18
Chennai: People including Tamil Nadu Thowheed Jamath members continue their protest against CAA, NRC and NPR near Madras High Court.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 18:49
by Rsatchi
A Deshmukh wrote:There could be some plan for Gogoi to be in RS.
- numbers to pass important bills like UCC, Population Control, NRC, etc. OR
- major judicial reforms with Gogoi leading the efforts.
a lot of things need to be done. and Modi is man in a hurry. we will wait and see how this evolves.

Sirji:
Is this correct:
The former Supreme Court Judges, including the CJI, can't/ shall not plead or act in any court or before any authority within the territory of India, because of the constitutional prohibition imposed under Art.124(7) of the Constitution of India. Nevertheless, there is no legal impediment to their practice outside India
And now Coupta says they can practice: :shock:
https://youtu.be/FEPckx0A2js

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 21:50
by Sachin

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 22:20
by Vikas
This is the endgame for Kamal Nath. Even if he survives tomorrow, He will always be one vote-of-confidence away from losing his chair.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 23:41
by CRamS
Vikas wrote:This is the endgame for Kamal Nath. Even if he survives tomorrow, He will always be one vote-of-confidence away from losing his chair.


Other than those MLAs who defected coming back to Pappu miraculously, any other scenario where Kamal Nath can escape?

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 00:21
by vijayk
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 01:26
by Sanju
In the meantime:

Twitter

Shehla Rashid
@Shehla_Rashid
Appreciate PM @narendramodi 's clear message to people to stay indoors, encouraging work from home. Also endorse his appeal to all employers to give paid leave to staff. He's asked people to not panic-buy & hoard. Appeal to everyone to be united and follow the govt's instructions.
10:58 AM · Mar 19, 2020·Twitter Web App


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MajorPoonia
Major Surendra Poonia
@MajorPoonia
Delhi's Shaheen Bagh anti-CAA protest organizer Tabrez got #Coronavirus. Tabrez’s sister had returned from Saudi Arabia recently. Their family is also got infected.
@ArvindKejriwal
तबरेज को डिनर पर नही बुलाओगे परिवार सहित ?
मज़ाक़ बना दिया है आपने दिल्ली का अपनी घटिया राजनीति से

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 01:53
by chetak
CRamS wrote:
Vikas wrote:This is the endgame for Kamal Nath. Even if he survives tomorrow, He will always be one vote-of-confidence away from losing his chair.


Other than those MLAs who defected coming back to Pappu miraculously, any other scenario where Kamal Nath can escape?


haven't their resignations been accepted.

need to win elections again to go back to pappu.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 01:59
by Sanju
This is incredulous, 14 Indians studying in Pakistan.

ANI on Twitter
ANI
@ANI
Punjab: 43 Indians who arrived last night through Attari-Wagah Border have been sent to quarantine facility in Amritsar. Parijeet Kaur Johal, Civil Surgeon says,"29 have travel history of Dubai&14 are students studying in Pakistan. Medical reports sent to state govt".#Coronavirus


Edited: Got my answer from this Opindia article.
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However, it turns out that the Indian students returned from Pakistan are from Kashmir. As per a Hindustan Times report dated 16th March, 2020, about 100 Indians including 15 students from Kashmir were allowed to return to India from Pakistan through the Attari-Wagah border. A senior customs official on condition of anonymity informed Hindustan Times reporter that about 15 Kashmiri students studying in Pakistan have also returned to India after special screening was carried out for them at the border.

Hundreds of Kashmiri students study in Pakistan. As educational institutes there closed because of coronavirus outbreak, most of them are returning home. Prior to that, about 60 Kashmiri students had returned from Pakistan at Wagah border.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 02:50
by Bart S
Well, there are more Indian (from Kashmir) students studying in Bangladesh and they returned yesterday. When they were told that they need to be quarantined, they created a ruckus and broke windows etc at Srinagar airport.

India needs an exit policy post haste. People should not be freely allowed to go to places like Pakistan, Turkey, Iran etc without prior clearance.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 03:01
by chetak
Nirbhaya convicts approach SC to stay hanging, hearing at 2.30 am


Nirbhaya convicts set for gallows as Delhi HC rejects plea in midnight hearing

NEW DELHI: The Delhi High Court on Thursday upheld the death warrants issued by a lower court scheduling the hanging of the four death row convicts in the Nirbhaya gang rape and murder case at 5.30 a.m. on Friday.

Dismissing the plea filed by the convicts through advocate A.P. Singh, a division bench of Justices Manmohan and Sanjiv Narula said: "Writ petition bereft of merits, dismissed."

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 03:13
by chetak
chetak wrote:
CRamS wrote:
Other than those MLAs who defected coming back to Pappu miraculously, any other scenario where Kamal Nath can escape?


haven't their resignations been accepted.

need to win elections again to go back to pappu.



Hours before floor test, Madhya Pradesh Speaker accepts resignation of remaining rebel Congress MLAs

With this resignations of the Jyotiraditya Scindia loyalists, all 22 MLAs who resigned on March 10 now stand accepted - consequently making the House's total strength fall to 206.




Friday, March, 20, 2020



Hours before floor test, Madhya Pradesh Speaker accepts resignation of remaining rebel Congress MLAs

With this resignations of the Jyotiraditya Scindia loyalists, all 22 MLAs who resigned on March 10 now stand accepted - consequently making the House's total strength fall to 206.


20th March 2020

The 19 Madhya Pradesh rebel Congress MLAs pose with their resignation letters in Bengaluru on Tuesday. The Madhya Pradesh rebel Congress MLAs pose with their resignation letters in Bengaluru on Tuesday.

BHOPAL : In a major development on Thursday late night, Madhya Pradesh Assembly Speaker Narmada Prasad Prajapati accepted the resignations of remaining 16 rebel Congress MLAs who have been in Bengaluru since March 9.

With this resignations of the Jyotiraditya Scindia loyalists, all 22 MLAs who resigned on March 10 now stand accepted - consequently making the House's total strength fall to 206, where ruling Congress with 92 members and seven allied MLAs is now at least five short of simple majority figure of 104 seats, while BJP with 107 MLAs is three more than the simple majority.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 03:29
by KL Dubey
Yes, if all goes well then Mar 20 should be a day of some good cheer:

- 4 monsters will be put down for good. This along with the 'quick justice' meted out recently in TG, will go some way in deterrence.

- Kamalanathan's joke goremint will fall. MP will go saffron again with Uncle Chou back in the saddle. Even if no independents/SP/BSP people switch to BJP, it should be an easy matter to win 9/24 seats in the upcoming by-elections especially with Scindia's help.

With all resignations accepted, a good outcome already is that dirty old man Doggy is unlikely to get another term in the RS and can stay home with his young daughter (no, wait.....wife). Too bad: I just realized MP has 3 RS seats coming up for election...so Scindia and Doggy will win and the third seat will have a close contest but will now likely go to BJP.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 06:58
by Suraj
Finally the Nirbhaya accused are executed .

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 07:23
by Cain Marko
This is exactly what I meant in an earlier post about street justice:

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-outbreak-man-beaten-up-for-sneezing-in-public-in-maharashtra-kolhapur-2197618?pfrom=home-topstories
In an incident which shows how the fear of coronavirus has become all-pervasive, a man riding a motorbike was thrashed in Kolhapur city of Maharashtra on Thursday just because he sneezed in public.


I'm guessing more such events will occur - perhaps the best way to get those idiots to stay home who have been quarantined! In the long term, maybe this will be the way to truly make Bharat "swacch" again! When peoples lives are tied up with sanitation and civic cleanliness, expect organic methods of enforcement.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 07:24
by Suraj
Yes the quarantine period is actually a great time for sanitation efforts to catch up with the backlog and reset the baseline of what constitutes clean, to a much higher level .

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 08:58
by Hari Seldon
Must read-interview folks....

Ranjan Gogoi interview in TOI

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 11:49
by Sachin
So what is going to happen for Mr. Kamalanathan & Co in MP
Madhya Pradesh govt crisis Live: Speaker accepts resignation of 16 rebel Congress MLAs ahead of floor test. One leader is talking about a 'Formula 5' to be launched at 1200Hrs today ;).

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 12:09
by Mollick.R
Suraj wrote:Finally the Nirbhaya accused are executed .


"CONVICTS"

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 12:50
by chetak
now we know the reason to bring ranjan gogoi into the rajya sabha :mrgreen:

An ex CJI speaking in the RS about matters long buried by congi, commie and the lootyens and other BIF FFNGO cabals with the active connivance of the system and other obscured and entombed matters of quid pro quo, omission and commission very conveniently swept under the carpet is protected by the constitution like all MPs and he cannot be silenced by any form of judicial intervention.

this is a savagely sharp damocles sword hanging over many a "haloed" political head as well as "other" BIF heads.

sleepless nights for a great many are just the beginning of this catastrophe of Wagnerian proportions that may soon visit the lootyens, FFNGO and the BIF ecosystems just beginning to feel the loud crash like thunder in the background that tells of the coming storm.

or maybe, the mere threat of this looming tsunami may be enough to silence many a paid and soldout critic and the BIF


Former CJI Gogoi levels a serious charge: “Independence of judiciary means breaking stranglehold of half-a-dozen people over it. They hold judges to ransom. If a case is not decided in a way advocated by them, they malign the judge.”

Guess which lawyers/netas comprise the lobby



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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 13:04
by KL Dubey
Sachin wrote:So what is going to happen for Mr. Kamalanathan


Bugger has just announced he is going to resign, after a long sob-story speech. So no trust vote. Guv will probably call uncle chou to form goremint.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 13:12
by Vikas
Hari Seldon wrote:Must read-interview folks....

Ranjan Gogoi interview in TOI


Kambhakhat no one knows who is fighting on whose side.

If I was a BIF, I will start doubting all my allies. With a powerful govt in the center, Anyone now can tear away the fake green robe and go back to his/her roots.
All this while when commie-BIF-Cong cabal had created a ecosystem where being Anti-Hindu, Indic-hating alone was a ticket to next level, many would just keep quiet and trudge along as there was no other public pole to resist these forces.
Many will not become BJP lovers but they will go back to their natural state of being dharmic.
Once Modi Ji is able to break the elite education mafia and entitled Judiciary, we may see Ghar-wapasi among Lutyens too.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 13:36
by chetak
Gogoi is combative, to say the least, while the "journos" repeatedly try to do the hitjob that they very obviously came there to do.

his comments on one particular judge is "godfatheresque" and may well be a veiled warning of things to come if he were to be pushed beyond a point



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2g_LF9nUg


Ex CJI, Ranjan Gogoi Exclusive Interview To India Today After Taking Oath As A Rajya Sabha MP



Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 15:15
by Yagnasri
Full lock down of Mumbai and Pune upto 31st March.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 15:40
by g.sarkar
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/m ... 2020-03-20
MP govt crisis: Kamal Nath announces resignation, Congress falls and BJP rejoices
With a politically important state like Madhya Pradesh slipping out of its kitty just 15 months after it came to power, the Congress' already dwindling footprints in India's political canvas has shrunk further.
Mukesh Rawat, New Delhi, March 20, 2020

The Congress suffered a humiliating blow on Friday as yet another state slipped out of its grasp when Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Kamal Nath announced resignation ahead of the Supreme Court-mandated floor test in the state assembly. Kamal Nath resigned because the Congress did not have the numbers required to prove majority in the house. A defeat in the floor test may have perhaps been more humiliating, hence the resignation.
Addressing a press conference in Bhopal, Kamal Nath said, "Mera kya kasuur tha? (What was my fault)" "The BJP got 15 years to develop the state but it didn't. I got just 15 months of which in two months there was a model code of conduct due to Lok Sabha election," he said. Accusing the BJP of "conspiring against his government", Kamal Nath said the BJP had been hands in glove in this conspiracy from Day 1.
"My government was able to prove majority in the house on three occasions. The BJP could not tolerate it. So, it conspired with a maharaj (Jyotiraditya Scindia) and 22 greedy MLAs and planned to topple my government," Kamal Nath said, adding that the people of Madhya Pradesh won't forgive these "greedy and rebellious" people. "This is not my betrayal, but it is the betrayal of the people of Madhya Pradesh," he said.
With a politically important state like Madhya Pradesh slipping out of its kitty just 15 months after it came to power, ironically after 15 years, the Congress' already dwindling footprints in India's political canvas has shrunk further.
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Gautam
You could tell this was coming just from the constipated fotu of the CM put up earlier. Mota Bhai ki jai ho!

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 16:01
by chetak
now these BIF/presstitute guys are left pinning their hopes on a second foreign (chinese) virus after the first foreign (eyetalian) virus failed


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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 16:46
by chetak
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 17:56
by Yagnasri
Disgusting fellow hoping that millions die in this crises.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 19:49
by chetak
Press Trust of India @PTI_News
Coronavirus scare: Delhi HC seeks Centre, DGCA stand on plea challenging travel ban from EU, UK and other countries from Mar 18
2:55 PM · Mar 20, 2020

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 20:14
by pankajs
https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1240889405805658112
NDTV @ndtv

#KunalKamra #DelhiHighCourt

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 20:20
by chetak
Pic 1 - Then, Pic 2 - Now


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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 20:33
by M_Joshi
ricky_v wrote:
Vikas wrote:You forgot, He was also drafted into HP Ranji team for just 1-2 matches so that he could qualify for board positions :)
Anyways he is too small a player still for any serious spotlight.
why suddenly him ?and what does "charged (by the public)" mean ???

Villified by the public, judgement declaration via social and print media without facts or defense, like regular indian msm stuff. Just curious is all, maybe he will one day ascend the aj memorial chair.


Father & son duo are corrupt. Maybe he's one of the youngest, promised to change his ways & has cultivated good contacts to secure this position in North Block. During his father's CMship he accumulated benami all over HP. One of the reason Dhumal lost in last election. This election Shah made sure that BJP's undeclared CM candidate before elections & ex-CM Dhumal LOST THE MLA ELECTION! How Chanakiyan is that?! Shah even declared in a rally before elections in Mandi (current CM constituency) that people should vote for Jai Ram Thakur as he will given a big responsibility after elections. If Dhumal would've won his seat then it would've led to infighting among BJP legislators. He was made to loose because people here remember their last ineffective & corrupt govt.

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 20:36
by pankajs
With a pinch of salt ..

https://twitter.com/bainjal/status/1240897918707482624
Swati Chaturvedi @bainjal

And, Kamalnath quits as expected. Those “journalists” who claimed Scindia leaving congress would have zero impact clearly have zero acumen. A young congress leader tells me “the Delhi consensus of darbari media advising the party has terrible consequences”