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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 10:58

I haven't read the piece but the tweet below is funny at many levels. Either the leftist/liberandus don't understand how things work or they are peddling their agenda of Modi hate.

https://twitter.com/kapskom/status/1250668195834445824
A phone call from Trump is all it took Modi—who never reverses his domestic decisions, no matter how painful their consequences for Indians—to revoke the ban on hydroxychloroquine’s export. This pushover PM is no nationalist.

My rejoinder to @ShekharGupta

https://twitter.com/somnath1978/status/ ... 6383282177
When ignorance (of India's HCQ manufacturing capacity), imagination (of why states react in certain ways) and frog-in-well hate (India opened HCQ exports for 15 other cntries too) - come together in 800 words...

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 11:02

This tweet has triggered a lot of liberandus

https://twitter.com/BabitaPhogat/status ... 9717021697
Babita Phogat @BabitaPhogat

कोरोना वायरस भारत की दूसरे नंबर की सबसे बड़ी समस्या है।

जाहिल जमाती अभी भी पहले नंबर पर बना हुआ है।

#jahiljamati

Translated from Hindi by Google

Corona virus is the second largest problem in India.

Jahil Jamati still remains the number one.

#jahiljamati

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 11:07

This is a good step that needs to be replicated all across India.

May be ... just may be, the GOI is waiting for all legal challenges to UP's seizure of properties to pay for damage to public property to get over before making it a India wide template via a law.

https://twitter.com/upma23/status/1251011983781924866
Keep Smiling @upma23

UP CM Yogi Adityanath: Attach property of those attacking health workers, police | India News,The Indian Express

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... e-6366074/
UP CM Yogi Adityanath: Attach property of those attacking health workers, police

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Postby SBajwa » 18 Apr 2020 12:13

nitinbhasin02 wrote:
Karan M wrote:


Beyond metros, imagine a regional journalist’s life who toils in the sun on a bike to report and sustain the extended family on a meager income. These regional journalists bring out those potent heartwarming stories & sometimes Headlines :lol: (Seeds, Cows, Crimes) from the hinterland which have not only elements of irony, pain, progress but also reflects realities in a creative relatable way.

Moving ahead, a lot of people read reviews before buying a mobile phone or a car. Some of us read the business stories before joining a new company. Many of us want to have entertainment (Bollywood, Sonu ki Smile, Insta Challenge). Some people bring out the sustainability or innovation stories (Padman etc). For all their story telling efforts, they are certainly experts in the content they create and would have helped few people take intelligent decisions. Overall, all these regular people are not inimical to Indian interests.
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Bhasin Sahab .

Do you know what presstitutes are? The so called reviews, movie articles, defense articles, art articles are all paid media by different lobbies for their vested interests.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 14:12

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1251149127389339653
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

Just in: Russia says it is grateful to India for sending medicines to fight #COVID; Russian President Putin’s Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said,"Moscow is pleased and grateful for the decision of the Indian government ". New Delhi is sending Hydroxychloroquine to Russia.

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Postby syam » 18 Apr 2020 14:24

Just saw a poor lady got beaten by police for selling veggies. they even flipped the cart and dumped the whole stock on road. these are bad signs. divine protection won't work when you don't follow dharma. also such fresh veggies shouldn't be treated like that. we better prepare for bad news from mumbai in coming days.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 16:12

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1251153823021666310
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

Flash: Egyptian President Al Sisi & Indian PM Modi spoke today; Discussed COVID19 outbreak
#COVID

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 16:21

The absurdities that folks go to .. to defend the single source virus

https://twitter.com/htTweets/status/1251125275959721987
Hindustan Times @htTweets

#Covid19India | Link between spitting and disease transmission is overstated: Professor Ross Coomber, the head of department of sociology, social policy and criminology, University of Liverpool, UK

(interview by @sanchx)

https://twitter.com/BBTheorist/status/1 ... 9581888514
Shubhendu @BBTheorist

Professor of Sociology is lecturing about Communicable Diseases and Pathogens!

I think I have seen everything now.

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Postby Zynda » 18 Apr 2020 16:23

Many sectors are being opened up from Monday April 20 onwards. Here is an official Tweet from Ravi Shankar Prasad
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Here is a list of what will remain open all over India with effect from 20th April 2020.

This will NOT be applicable in the containment zones.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 16:38

https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status ... 9333692416
Narendra Modi @narendramodi

Had a good discussion with President @CyrilRamaphosa about the COVID-19 challenge, and assured India’s support to South Africa for maintaining essential medical supplies.
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1251156725924630529
ANI @ANI

In a series of offerings of critical drugs, India sent 100,000 paracetamol&500,000 hydroxychloroquine tablets to Afghanistan through Ariana Airlines today. This is in addition to 1st consignment of wheat India shipped earlier to bolster food security: Afghan Envoy Tahir Qadiry
https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status ... 1996792838
Narendra Modi @narendramodi

Discussed on phone with President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi @AlsisiOfficial about the COVID-19 situation in India and Egypt. India will extend all possible support to Egypt’s efforts to control the spread of the virus and its impact.


https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1251144361288495104
TIMES NOW @TimesNow

#Exclusive #Breaking | Tablighi Markaz led to a spike in the number of cases, but Rajasthan Govt provides 'shield' by removing data. TIMES NOW exposes the BIG discrepancies in the data filed by the Rajasthan Govt on April 5, 6 & 7.
TJ data ..

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 17:36

Video embedded .. Modi kits being distributed to the lower strata of society.

https://twitter.com/knowthenation/statu ... 5512161281
Know The Nation @knowthenation

A BJP karyakarta takes us through the packing of one ‘Modi Kit’ relief pack for poor daily wage workers.

It includes 5kg flour, 2ltr oil, 2kg rice, 1kg sugar, half kg chickpeas, 1kg pulses, spices, tea leaves, soap, detergent & biscuits.

#FeedTheNeedy #IndiaFightsCorona
https://twitter.com/knowthenation/statu ... 0939237376
Know The Nation @knowthenation

Delhi govt has failed to do its job.

Hardworking BJP leaders & karyakartas are delivering ‘Modi Kits’ relief material to the needy & poor daily wage workers all across Delhi. These kits contain 15 essential items along with dry ration.

#FeedTheNeedy #IndiaFightsCorona

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 17:51

This is how BJP works ..

https://twitter.com/SuryahSG/status/1251078484706746369
SG Suryah @SuryahSG

We’ve traced more than 1100 Twitter Accounts created in February & March 2020 that are posting Pro-DMK & Anti-Government & Anti-India tweets on regular basis. In all probability these are #FakeIDDMK that will go on rampage during 2011 TN State Elections. There are many more IDs!
And then they watch from the sidelines .. No one is asking them to take fight to the bakistan.
https://twitter.com/ArmyDeshBakth/statu ... 7049907200
Hindutva Reddy @ArmyDeshBakth

Sir, I have reported this Twitter account called "Bhakt's Nightmare" to Indian Cyber Crime Police. The account was targeting accounts of Hindus/Patriotic citizens

It was also targeting accounts of Hindu NRIs. Please help in taking this case forward. I am also an RSS Swayamsevak
Meaning nothing is being done ..
https://twitter.com/BharatRetweet/statu ... 2750428160
Bharat Retweet @BharatRetweet

He targeted me too and many more doing job in Middle East countries.
They are getting support from Indian haters too.
I reported those accounts several times to @Twitter but still no response from their side.
All the BJP does is sit on its haunches & complain that they are unfairly being treated even when it has the whole government machinery at its disposal.

I have seen the same complain by Indian handles that counter bakis propaganda on defense, security, etc. They regularly get targeted and suspended by twitter. Indian reporting largely goes unheeded by twitter. Even when once in a while such baki handles are suspended, they are revived at the behest of ISPR. No such support forthcoming from the Indian government either to ban baki handle or revive Indian handle. Recently, Baba Baneras has been suspended.

Such are the mystery of BJP's working.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 17:55

There was this single source lady on twitter who had posted an abusive post on Dalits on twitter. No amount of reporting to Twitter worked not did complaining to the UP police on twitter elicit a response. Normally, anyone else would have had SC/ST atrocities act promptly applied for such a post but single source people get special privileges.

OTOH, the lady in question complained to the UP police against another handle got her a prompt response from the same UP police.

Such are the mysterious workings of the BJP even in UP.

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Postby pankajs » 18 Apr 2020 18:06

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/VidyaKrishnan/status/1249683867075670017
Vidya @VidyaKrishnan

How is this not revolution inducing? {Commies always talking revolution}

How?!? We will have nothing to fight for, if we don't fight for this.

https://twitter.com/VidyaKrishnan/statu ... 4762660864
Vidya @VidyaKrishnan

In my lifetime, I'd like to see India's 'self-regulated' private hospitals nationalized.

Rich or poor everyone gets the same quality of care, at the same price.

Confirmed commie.

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Postby Rahul M » 18 Apr 2020 18:18

Why not nationalize media too while we are at it ?? :mrgreen:

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Postby Ambar » 18 Apr 2020 19:04

Whatever happened to the local companies that were to produce the test kits ? The chinese kits in europe have had a success rate of 30-35% as per eaerlier reports but looks like we are importing them enmass.

Nearly 3 lakh rapid antibody test kits have just been airlifted by Air India from Guangzhou in China. Supplies are headed to Rajasthan & Tamil Nadu: Vikram Misri, India Ambassador to China

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1251494394991173632

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Postby SBajwa » 18 Apr 2020 20:18

This is UP--why yogiji shld be future PM:) RT https://t.co/zElbjsncPS

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Postby shaun » 18 Apr 2020 21:08

pankajs wrote:
I have seen the same complain by Indian handles that counter bakis propaganda on defense, security, etc. They regularly get targeted and suspended by twitter. Indian reporting largely goes unheeded by twitter. Even when once in a while such baki handles are suspended, they are revived at the behest of ISPR. No such support forthcoming from the Indian government either to ban baki handle or revive Indian handle. Recently, Baba Baneras has been suspended.

Such are the mystery of BJP's working.


got some thing do with this man Alwaleed Bin Talal ??

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Postby Ambar » 18 Apr 2020 21:18

Unless the government decides to ban these foreign social media platforms and create Indian alternatives we will continue to suffer. After Indian jihadis like Irene Akbar working together with some Gulf News anti-hindu journalist to target Indians working in middle east, today a so called UAE "princess" by name Hend Al Qassimi on twitter(Ladyvelvet_HFQ is the handle) has been posting non-stop anti-India messages and asking her ummah to send her twitter handles/identities of Indians.

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Postby Ambar » 18 Apr 2020 22:28

Pakistanis celebrate as prominent Gulf personalities joined hands with Indian Muslims in targeting the beleaguered Hindus in the Middle East


https://www.opindia.com/2020/04/pakistanis-celebrate-as-prominent-gulf-personalities-joined-hands-with-indian-muslims-in-targeting-the-beleaguered-hindus-in-the-middle-east/

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Postby Bart S » 18 Apr 2020 23:41

Who is this 'Princess Hend Al Qassimi' and why is she taking such a keen interest in India?
https://twitter.com/LadyVelvet_HFQ

Seems to be a rabid Islamist in liberal guise, with selective outrage and suppression of all contrary (to Islamist narrative) facts.

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Postby sudarshan » 18 Apr 2020 23:54

Y. Kanan wrote:The real reason Christianity and Islam win so many converts is simple: a religion that stresses morality and personal responsibility (Hinduism) cannot compete with religions that promise eternal glorious life free of any burden of personal responsibility, as long as you accept Jesus\Muhammad into your heart. Christianity and Islam are basically "be a bad person all your life, it really doesn't matter as long as you are pious. And also you'll go to heaven with angels or sexy babes for eternity.

People are weak fools and this nonsense works. Our marketing will never be that good.


Xtianity started waning in Europe and now in the west in general, when an alternative showed up - science. Now there is another alternative viewpoint - so-called "liberalism" which while pretty toxic by itself, at least manages to shame Xtianity on LGBT counts. Islam so far has been immune to shaming on these fronts, simply by brazening it out.

One way forward for Dharmic faiths - emphasize their scientific, logical basis. Work with the principles of deductive scientific logic - axioms to theory to predictions to validation to metric (truth score). Get the STEM fields and STEM-trained people on board with this. The general population doesn't quite understand nuclear or astrophysics either, but is in awe of the phenomenal advancements to quality of life, driven by science. If the general population sees that the STEM types recognize the logical basis of Dharmic faiths, that's good enough.

A deductive view of Dharmic faiths based on a finite and limited set of reasonable axioms, targeting the STEM community, is what I've been proposing all along. If that view can also rationalize current buzz-words like LGBTQXYZ++, and offer a reasonable logical perspective on all this, all the better.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Gerard » 19 Apr 2020 00:18

Bart S wrote:Who is this 'Princess Hend Al Qassimi' .


Ex wife of the Emir of Qatar

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Postby Ambar » 19 Apr 2020 00:48

This targeting of Hindus in middle eastern countries is a well thought out sinister plot. Multiple handles from Pakistan, India, and Gulf countries are combing for any political/religious comments made by Hindus on social media and are systematically targeting them. Its not just this "princess" who is a part of the plot, but there are also ex-BBC/al jazeera/Gulf news journalists involved in it. Such a irony that these muslims claiming "freedom of speech and freedom of expression" while in India and west target hindus when they exercise the same freedom.

Hindus living in the middle east must remember that no matter how rich and developed those gulf countries claim to be at the end of the day they are islamic supremacist nations with zero tolerance towards people of other faith. Please wipe out your identities while on social media if you are to comment anything that remotely touches political/religious boundaries. The rights one has in India or the west simply does not exist in this barbarian desert countries.

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Postby shaun » 19 Apr 2020 00:53

Ambar wrote:This targeting of Hindus in middle eastern countries is a well thought out sinister plot. Multiple handles from Pakistan, India, and Gulf countries are combing for any political/religious comments made by Hindus on social media and are systematically targeting them. Its not just this "princess" who is a part of the plot, but there are also ex-BBC/al jazeera/Gulf news journalists involved in it. Such a irony that these muslims claiming "freedom of speech and freedom of expression" while in India and west target hindus when they exercise the same freedom.

Hindus living in the middle east must remember that no matter how rich and developed those gulf countries claim to be at the end of the day they are islamic supremacist nations with zero tolerance towards people of other faith. Please wipe out your identities while on social media if you are to comment anything that remotely touches political/religious boundaries. The rights one has in India or the west simply does not exist in this barbarian desert countries.

True ..accordingly i have advised some people to do the same , Alwaleed Bin Talal have stake in twitter...maybe far fetched but who knows.

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Postby Bart S » 19 Apr 2020 01:03

Gerard wrote:
Bart S wrote:Who is this 'Princess Hend Al Qassimi' .


Ex wife of the Emir of Qatar


She seems to be Emirati in origin and current residence. Is she just a loudmouth 'activist' type, or does she really have the influence/power to be getting Indians in the UAE jailed/fired/deported?

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Postby chetak » 19 Apr 2020 01:11

yuval noah harari



watch-yuval-noah-harari-on-globalisation-privacy-religion-post-coronavirus-world



https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/watch-yuval-noah-harari-on-globalisation-privacy-religion-post-coronavirus-world-1666987-2020-04-14

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Postby CRamS » 19 Apr 2020 06:01

I was watching that despicable BIF scum bag Yogendra Yadav on a Turdesai show along with RSS Rajya Sabha MP Rakesh Sinha and Ajay Alok from Nitishwa's JDU. The topic was YogiJi helping some students and pilgrims with buses to go back home but leaving 1000s of migrant laborers stranded. This fraud Yogendra Yadava seized on this and accused YogiJi and BJP and RSS of class warfare. The BIF won't let any opportunity pass by to play out their agenda.

Leaving aside Yogendra Yadav, even Ajai Alok was critical of YogiJi for breaking lock down rules for a few students and pilgrims. Is there any truth to this? Why did YogiJi cave in to pressure from students, at least this was Ajay Alok's claim.

On the politics of this, the optics doesn't look good for YogiJi if Ajay Alok's critcism is valid. The voting power of the migrant laborers is any day much bigger than the students and pilgrims. Of course, next election for YogiJi is far away, but if this thing doesn't end well, both he and BJP could face a huge backlash from this migrant labor constituency. No wonder Yogendra Yadav types have latched on to this.

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Postby Ambar » 19 Apr 2020 06:26

There were over 7000 from UP who were stuck in despicable conditions in RJ. UP did what other states couldn't and wouldn't do - send a convoy of hundreds of buses all the way to RJ from UP to evacuate those who were stuck. Kudos to mahantji who has proved yet again that he's the best CM in India.

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Postby CRamS » 19 Apr 2020 06:31

Ambar, what is 7000 compared with the 1000s and 1000s of UP and Bihari laborers stuck in Maha, Delhi, and elsewhere?

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Postby Punjabi » 19 Apr 2020 06:44

https://www.cisindus.org/2020/04/15/wha ... u-rashtra/
What is Wrong in India becoming a Hindu Rashtra?
Authored by: Khalid Umar
Not sure if this is the right thread but this was a surprise given all the India bashing that goes on today esp. in the Western World!
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Postby Ambar » 19 Apr 2020 06:59

CRamS wrote:Ambar, what is 7000 compared with the 1000s and 1000s of UP and Bihari laborers stuck in Maha, Delhi, and elsewhere?


You may have forgotten but Mahantji did the same for those 1000s of UP migrant laborers too when Kejriwal decided to throw them out of Delhi at midnight on 3/29.

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Postby mappunni » 19 Apr 2020 08:32

Ambar wrote:Unless the government decides to ban these foreign social media platforms and create Indian alternatives we will continue to suffer. After Indian jihadis like Irene Akbar working together with some Gulf News anti-Hindu journalist to target Indians working in middle east, today a so-called UAE "princess" by name Hend Al Qassimi on twitter(Ladyvelvet_HFQ is the handle) has been posting non-stop anti-India messages and asking her ummah to send her to twitter handles/identities of Indians.


Saar, Please check this twitter timeline. One of the guys who was reporting Indians was outed! He was doing it in the safety of Australia! The guy who outed created a Twitter handle in the guy's real name :(( :(( :((

https://mobile.twitter.com/AltafSh34154669

And after he was outed his rants on web.archive after he disabled his SM ids

https://web.archive.org/web/20200418144043/https:/twitter.com/brumbyoz/status/1251512684270370817

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Postby shaun » 19 Apr 2020 14:54

https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... -time-bomb

Bengal sitting on a coronavirus time bomb

Shantanu Guha Ray
Published : April 18, 2020

Doctors complain that state authorities’ approval is needed for each Covid-19 test, and is regularly refused. As a result, patients suspected to be suffering from Covid-19 are not being isolated soon enough.
New Delhi : Serious differences have emerged in Kolkata and parts of West Bengal over the way the state government is reportedly suppressing facts relating to people affected by the deadly coronavirus. The crisis has snowballed into a huge controversy between the Bengal government—ruled by the Trinamool Congress—and doctors who are now taking to social media platforms to highlight what they claim is the handiwork of the state censors who have clamped down on doctors and asked them not to declare deaths from coronavirus unless certified by a state government-nominated panel.
The move of the state government, expectedly, has come under fire from officials of the Kolkata-wing of the Indian Council of Medical Research, who have blamed the TMC-led government for slowing down the mandatory tests related to the deadly virus. Worse, the state government did not respond even after the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare of the Central government declared the whole of Kolkata city and some of its districts as hotspots (areas of possible concentration of coronavirus patients). “It is requested that the states should utilise the extended lockdown period to the maximum extent to convert the hotspots (identified by the red colour) to orange and green zones,” a senior official of the ministry said in a note. But, sadly, it is not working in Kolkata and parts of Bengal.
Recently, television news channels have shown videos, claiming bodies being disposed of by cops and health workers in the dead of the night; young doctors—hiding their identity—have taken to social media platforms to say how they were pushed to sign death certificates by their seniors. The junior doctors further said many hospitals in Kolkata and across the state lacked proper gear to handle such patients and the levels of infection were high and spreading fast because there were large-scale violations across the city and the state. “We have many patients who are ill and desperate for medical care and supplies,” said a young doctor requesting anonymity.
Another doctor, who circulated his message through his colleagues, said he was aghast to see how a pregnant woman, who was declared Covid-positive, was handled by the Medical College in north Kolkata: “She was in the labour room and eventually had a caesarean operation. She came in contact with over 50 nurses, doctors and paramedics. The labour room is overcrowded, each bed has three patients. So the woman would have infected many who came in her contact. Once it was known that she came from Eden Hospital (in the Medical College) on College Street, the state government officials sealed the Eden Hospital. The entire news was suppressed. First, it was announced 50 paramedics will be isolated even though their numbers were much higher. Then, the number was reduced to 25. And then, all those paramedics were sent back to work. In another case, a Corona-infected patient was pushed into the general ward because the hospital had not developed a Covid ward. At each step, the state government officials are telling us to hush up figures. We do not have enough protective gear. As a result, doctors, nurses and paramedics are all highly exposed to the virus. Worse, they are being told to do their duty, they are not being medically checked. If this is happening in the heart of the city, you can imagine what could be happening outside Kolkata.”
The doctor said some of the whistleblowers were reprimanded by police for warning others about the current crisis in Kolkata. Many were forced to delete their posts. This chokehold on information heralds a new stage in the state government’s response to the huge coronavirus, many doctors claim. They say they cannot disclose their names in the fear of losing their jobs.
The doctors say the official tally of infected patients is far lower than the true scale of the outbreak across the state. “I have a feeling that the state government is telling us that the discussions online are entering into the zone of perceived sensitivity for the state,” says Dr Ranabir Sen, a private practitioner. Dr Sen said earlier, uninhibited reporting provided valuable public knowledge about the outbreak. “It is very clear to us we need more supplies and more diagnostic equipment. So let’s get those so that we can all work better. We need to save Bengal from a bigger crisis and the state government needs to realise it fast. There is a benefit of allowing social media critique. You get to know what is wrong and what is right. But in this state that is also getting slimmer.”
There are other problems in the state. The director of the National Institute of Cholera and Enteric Diseases (NICED), the primary testing facility in West Bengal, said his institute was getting fewer samples of Covid-19 to test than it was getting in the initial days of the outbreak. “We are all waiting here to do the tests but the samples are not coming. It dropped to 20 last week. During the initial days of the outbreak, we got about 90-100 samples to test. We really do not know what is happening,” NICED Director Shanta Dutta told this reporter in a telephonic interview. She further said NICED Kolkata had over 27,000 testing kits, enough for the whole of eastern region, but the decision to send the number of samples to a particular laboratory is taken by the West Bengal government. She said she was surprised at the recent comments of the state government blaming the Centre for a “shortage of kits”. Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee, on 11 April, told reporters in Kolkata that the city had only 40 testing kits. “We are waiting with the kits, we really do not know what is happening,” said Dutta.
According to the state’s Health Bulletin released on 13 April, the number of persons tested for Covid-19 in the state stands at 2,793. The number of tests done till 12 April as per the state bulletin was 2,523 and till 11April was 2,286. Thus 507 samples, which is about 18% of all Covid-19 samples tested in the state, have been carried out since 12 April. The number of testing centres in the state has increased to seven, which include five government facilities and two private. NICED has given about 7,500 testing kits to the West Bengal government. The total number of active cases in Bengal till 12 April was 110. Now, instead of giving the total number of infections in West Bengal, the state health department has been giving active cases in the state, which exclude those who have recovered from the viral infection or have expired. The number of 15 active infections in a day is the highest in the state so far. 270 samples were tested in two weeks until 15 April, which was also one of the highest in the state so far.
This is not all. The state government says seven people have died from corona in the state, the number hotly contested by doctors and paramedics who claim the state government is not sharing details of those dying from coronavirus.
“What is this hush-hush business?” asked Dr Archana Majumdar, a top health officer in the state who said she was aghast at the looming crisis. “Let me cite one example. It happened this week at one of the hospitals. A patient, named Sudipta Mukherjee, got admitted and eventually died around 1004 hours. She was 43 years old and her body was sent out of the hospital as a Hepatitis B case. Another patient, suspected to be a Covid-19 carrier, came into the hospital. Nurses and paramedics refused to touch her, saying they do not have any protective gear. Eventually, one gear was organised and the patient was asked to put on the gear and was sent to the general ward. Why is it we are not sending patients to the wards identified for positive corona cases and suspected corona cases?” asked Dr Majumdar.
She said she was seeing these restrictions being accompanied by intensified propaganda. The message being: We get that this is a grave problem, and we are fixing it. “Actually, state government officials are working overtime to hide the severity of the disease.”
Doctors complain that state authorities’ approval is needed for each test, and is regularly refused. As a result, patients suspected to be suffering from Covid-19 are not being isolated soon enough.
“If you suspect Covid and send the samples, they are routinely refused, there are times when the report returns after five days,” said Dr Arjun Dasgupta from the West Bengal Doctors Forum, which represents 19,000 doctors.
Worse, services in at least four major government hospitals and two private facilities in Kolkata have been hit after doctors and nurses came into contact with patients who later tested positive.
And then, there are doctors who are unanimous that coronavirus deaths are not being fully reported, with only a state-appointed committee allowed to declare if a patient has died from Covid-19.
Dr Sujan Chakraborty, a CPM legislator and a trained biomedical scientist, took to Facebook to highlight how the health officials of the state did not list all the seven patients who died after being declared Covid-19. “The list shows only two, what happened to the rest? Why not mention them in the list. Why fudge numbers?” asked Dr Chakraborty.
Many in Kolkata say the state government is working to re-establish control over the narrative by releasing expensive advertisements to news channels; filmmakers have been encouraged to make films to highlight the state’s government’s coronavirus-related health operations. Arindam Sil, a top filmmaker, has started directing a movie, titled Ek Din Jhor Theme Jabe (One day the Storm will End). The lines, interestingly, are from a poem penned by Mamata Banerjee herself. Some of the TMC MPs, Nursat Jahan and Mimi Chakraborty, will act in the film. But in reality movies—claim critics—will not work. Worse, the fact that authorities in Bengal are slowing down the detection of coronavirus cases with a cumbersome, bureaucratic testing process is, in turn, putting health workers at risk.
The situation in Bengal is very grave, top health officials told this reporter. “Besides Kolkata, the districts of Midnapur, North and South 24 Parganas, Murshidabad, Malda and Dinajpur are sitting on a ticking time bomb,” said Abishkar, a social worker who has been travelling across the state with relief material. Reuters said in a report that at around 3,000 tests for more than 90 million people, West Bengal has done just 33.7 tests per million, compared to a national average of around 156.9 per million, and 442 per million in Rajasthan.
“Take a look at what happened at the Howrah hospital where 17 nurses and four doctors tested positive only because they had no protective gear. As a result, the whole hospital was shut down. If you are having such a crisis in Kolkata, then you can easily realise what is the case in the districts where the hospitals are totally ill-equipped to handle such crises. Worse, members of a particular community are just not following health warnings and are congregating for prayers and routinely visiting crowded markets without any protective gear. The cops are unable to control them,” alleged Abishkar.
“There are places where the medical centres have no doctors, no nurses, no paramedics. This is a very dangerous situation. The doctors are flatly refusing to work saying they are at risk without the protective gear. In many places across the state, riots have broken out over distribution of food through the public distribution system (PDS). The situation needs to change. All I hope is that the people have the right to hold the government accountable rather than to be managed. I want everything to become better in Bengal,” added Abishkar.
Worried about the situation over the food distribution crisis, the state government—through a recent order —sent Manoj Agarwal, Principal Secretary, Food & Supplies, on compulsory waiting till further orders. The state government also transferred the district magistrates of Darjeeling, and West Burdwan after similar incidents were reported.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby amar_p » 19 Apr 2020 15:04

Time to dismiss Mamta Govt and bring WB under President's rule.

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Postby Bart S » 19 Apr 2020 16:12

Ambar wrote:There were over 7000 from UP who were stuck in despicable conditions in RJ. UP did what other states couldn't and wouldn't do - send a convoy of hundreds of buses all the way to RJ from UP to evacuate those who were stuck. Kudos to mahantji who has proved yet again that he's the best CM in India.



Is this that Kota crowd who were trying to have some trending hashtags on twitter? '#Sendusbackhome' or something like that. There were a lot of Paki/ISPR handles tweeting that hashtag as well so seems like some orchestrated mischief or something that was hijacked.

Coming to evacuation, nobody can complain if those 7000 people were put in separate quarantine like the migrants in that sports facility that UP govt took over. If they were simply allowed to go home, then sure, the critics have a point.
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Bart S » 19 Apr 2020 16:18

mappunni wrote:
Ambar wrote:Unless the government decides to ban these foreign social media platforms and create Indian alternatives we will continue to suffer. After Indian jihadis like Irene Akbar working together with some Gulf News anti-Hindu journalist to target Indians working in middle east, today a so-called UAE "princess" by name Hend Al Qassimi on twitter(Ladyvelvet_HFQ is the handle) has been posting non-stop anti-India messages and asking her ummah to send her to twitter handles/identities of Indians.


Saar, Please check this twitter timeline. One of the guys who was reporting Indians was outed! He was doing it in the safety of Australia! The guy who outed created a Twitter handle in the guy's real name :(( :(( :((

https://mobile.twitter.com/AltafSh34154669

And after he was outed his rants on web.archive after he disabled his SM ids

https://web.archive.org/web/20200418144043/https:/twitter.com/brumbyoz/status/1251512684270370817


The most disgusting thing here is that TOI and NDTV was fawning over him and Newslaundry (which seems to be a commie/jehadi front now) published an op-ed by him.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sachin » 19 Apr 2020 16:21

Bart S wrote:Is this that Kota crowd who were trying to have some trending hashtags on twitter? '#Sendusbackhome' or something like that.

Is'nt this place also (in)famous for the IIT/IIM entrants making factories? In that case these are another gang of privileged upper middle class (at least) kids who have been sent here to do the mugging for these entrance exams. These folks by no means are poor or people who find it tough to get three meals a day.

shaun wrote:Bengal sitting on a coronavirus time bomb

My only hope and prayers is that let the damage remain within WB state boundaries. The chief minister is beyond repairs and may be the rest of the nation should consider the state to be a big COVID-19 isolation ward.

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Postby Bart S » 19 Apr 2020 16:36

Sachin wrote:
Bart S wrote:Is this that Kota crowd who were trying to have some trending hashtags on twitter? '#Sendusbackhome' or something like that.

Is'nt this place also (in)famous for the IIT/IIM entrants making factories? In that case these are another gang of privileged upper middle class (at least) kids who have been sent here to do the mugging for these entrance exams. These folks by no means are poor or people who find it tough to get three meals a day.


Yes, Kota is famous for the coaching places.

I wouldn't necessarily say that they are all upper class (though the twitter-storming is a characteristic of such entitled folks), a lot of them are middle class/lower middle class kids on a budget who would be feeling the pinch and perhaps are not as 'hardened' and conditioned to hardship as migrant labour. But still, they could have made arrangements to provide them relief where they are, provided them counselling etc. And if they had to evacuate them, they should still go to quarantine like the migrant labour, and not allowed to just melt into the crowd.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby arvin » 19 Apr 2020 17:11

Mamtha's policy will make it difficult for bengali workers in other states to come back. This will only increase the back lash against her. Center should not intervene politically since elections are next year.
Also Bengal will be among the last to come out of this mess. There would be reluctance to hire bengal labour due to non transparent covid 19 procedures. This will come to bite her.


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