5G Technology News Discussions, Strategy and Impact to India
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Where is CDOT in all this?
Dont see its name even in the IITM initiative. Been buried for good?( i know there were/are still quite a few good techie guys there)
Dont see its name even in the IITM initiative. Been buried for good?( i know there were/are still quite a few good techie guys there)
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MUMBAI: Reliance Jio Infocomm (Jio) along with other global operators, vendors and integrators launched Open Test and Integration Center (OTIC) , an initiative which will help OEMs and other open source products and solutions to be functionally compliant to the specifications of the O-RAN Alliance.
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Top notch participants and educative discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS-oPSAyV5A
India Capable Of Building Own Telecom Network, The Time Is Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS-oPSAyV5A
India Capable Of Building Own Telecom Network, The Time Is Now
Amidst the pandemic, when homes have doubled up as virtual classrooms for children and as workplaces for office goers, the importance of strong and secure telecom networks has stood out in a big way. With 5G being the way forward and given the issues related to data sovereignty and cyber attacks, can India have a home grown next generation communications network? Possible, says Prof. V Kamakoti, member of National Security Advisory Board (NSAB). The software can be completely indigenised and hardware can be procured from multiple vendors to have a heterogenous network, he told StratNews Global Editor-in-Chief Nitin A. Gokhale. Data itself is a huge risk, said Satish Jamadagni, Head of Standards, Reliance Jio, joining in the conversation. Vulnerabilities are there at every level. The answer to that is to indigenise hardware, he added. India has the capability to develop an indigenous telecom network, said Dr Kumar N Sivarajan, CTO and Co-Founder, Tejas Networks India. The opportunity is now, agreed the other two panelists.
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Centre considers cutting 5G prices to offer telcos relief from increased costs of China ban
By Devina Sengupta & Anandita Singh Mankotia, ET Bureau Last Updated: Jul 29, 2020, 08:20 AM IST
MUMBAI | NEW DELHI: The government may consider lowering the base price of 5G spectrum to compensate telcos if they have to shell out more for buying non-Chinese equipment.
Officials said the government was aware that keeping Chinese vendors Huawei and ZTE away from India’s 5G market may push up network deployment costs and is thus open to reassessing the base prices suggested by the regulator to make it viable for operators.
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Experts said the absence of Huawei and ZTE would leave Indian telcos dependent on European vendors Ericsson and Nokia, besides South Korea’s Samsung. This would increase deployment costs by 15-20%, ultimately hurting retail and industrial customers.
The officials said the government is aware of the cost implications, especially as the two Chinese companies have historically offered the lowest rates for telecom equipment.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ar ... 231032.cms
By Devina Sengupta & Anandita Singh Mankotia, ET Bureau Last Updated: Jul 29, 2020, 08:20 AM IST
MUMBAI | NEW DELHI: The government may consider lowering the base price of 5G spectrum to compensate telcos if they have to shell out more for buying non-Chinese equipment.
Officials said the government was aware that keeping Chinese vendors Huawei and ZTE away from India’s 5G market may push up network deployment costs and is thus open to reassessing the base prices suggested by the regulator to make it viable for operators.
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Base rates too high
Experts said the absence of Huawei and ZTE would leave Indian telcos dependent on European vendors Ericsson and Nokia, besides South Korea’s Samsung. This would increase deployment costs by 15-20%, ultimately hurting retail and industrial customers.
The officials said the government is aware of the cost implications, especially as the two Chinese companies have historically offered the lowest rates for telecom equipment.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ar ... 231032.cms
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X-Posting from Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015
Mukesh.Kumar wrote:An interesting article on how the Internet is being carved up into different beings and what Jio means for the future of the internet.
India, Jio, and the Four Internets
The authors thesis is that you cannot ignore geopolitics/ geoeconomics in the future of the internet. Already the world is split into at least four different zones of influence. This play around Jio is finalizing this and going to affect the future of telecom and IT industry.
One of the more pernicious mistruths surrounding the debate about TikTok is that this will potentially lead to the splintering of the Internet; this completely erases the history of China’s Great Firewall, started 23 years ago, which effectively cut China off from most Western services. That the U.S. may finally respond in kind is a reflection of reality, not the creation of a new one.
What is new is the increased splintering in the non-China Internet: the U.S. model is still the default for most of the world, but the European Union and India are increasingly pursuing their own paths.The Indian Counterweight
It is increasingly impossible — or at least irresponsible — to evaluate the tech industry, in particular the largest players, without considering the geopolitical concerns at stake. With that in mind, I welcome Jio’s ambition. Not only is it unreasonable and disrespectful for the U.S. to expect India to be some sort of vassal state technologically speaking, it is actually a good thing to not only have a counterweight to China geographically, but also a counterweight amongst developing countries specifically. Jio is considering problem-spaces that U.S. tech companies are all too often ignorant of, which matters not simply for India but also for much of the rest of the world.
Still, Facebook, Google, Intel, Qualcomm, et al should proceed with their eyes wide-open: they are very much a means to an end for a company and a country that is on its own path. That is not to say these investments are not a good idea — I think they are — but India’s path is perhaps a more populist and nationalistic one than many Americans would prefer. Still, it is less antagonistic to Western liberalism than the Chinese Communist Party, and again, an important counterweight.
The only question left, then, is whither Europe, and frankly, the picture is not pretty:
The Four Internets
What differs Europe’s Internet from the U.S., Chinese, or Indian visions is, well, the lack of vision. Doing nothing more than continually saying “no” leads to a pale imitation of the status quo, where money matters more than innovation.
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Qualcomm Technologies, Inc., the world’s leading wireless technology innovator and the driving force for 5G, and Jio Platforms, today announced that they are working together to develop indigenous 5G solutions and network Infrastructure for India
The two companies also announced that they have achieved over a 1 Gbps (1,000 MBPS) speed on the Reliance Jio 5GNR solution and the Qualcomm 5G RAN Platform.
The achievement not only supports Jio’s 5G credentials but also signifies entry of Jio & India into the Gigabit 5G NR product portfolio. Currently only a handful of countries (USA, South Korea, Australia, Switzerland & Germany) are able to offer 1GBPS speeds to 5G customers.
With 5G tech, users will experience the benefits of higher data speeds, low latency communications and enhanced digital experiences across a wide array of connected devices, from 5G-enabled smartphones to enterprise laptops to AR/VR products to vertical IOT solutions.
Jio has been working on developing indigenous 5G solutions which will have wide-ranging applications across retail & industrial segments. Its strategic tie-ups with global leaders like Qualcomm helping it fast track while benchmarking with highest global standards
In Jul 2020, Qualcomm Ventures, the investment arm of Qualcomm Inc, announced an investment in Jio Platforms. Aimed to deepen the ties between Qualcomm and Jio Platforms and to support Jio Platforms on its journey to rollout advanced 5G infrastructure & services for India.
At that time, Sh Mukesh Ambani had said how as a world leader in wireless technologies, Qualcomm’s deep knowhow, insights will help Jio deliver on its 5G vision & digital transformation of India for both people, enterprises. The vision is one step closer to fruition today.
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Business Standard: Reliance Jio to launch 5G network in second half of 2021, say Mukesh Ambani.
https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 350_1.html
Wonder how he'll launch 5g when GoI hasn't even found buyers for its outrageously priced spectrum license.
https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 350_1.html
Wonder how he'll launch 5g when GoI hasn't even found buyers for its outrageously priced spectrum license.
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Jio is ahead in implementation
Do not know how Jio/Ambani managed to swing this but they seem to be prepared to roll out in under 6 months, which means they already have the pieces in place. You do not go from announcement to public audience in 6 months unless the product is ready.
Mittal seems to be late in the game, so he is going to have to suck up spectrum costs with no revenue for 2-3 years..or get busy and push up the dates.
Do not know how Jio/Ambani managed to swing this but they seem to be prepared to roll out in under 6 months, which means they already have the pieces in place. You do not go from announcement to public audience in 6 months unless the product is ready.
Mittal seems to be late in the game, so he is going to have to suck up spectrum costs with no revenue for 2-3 years..or get busy and push up the dates.
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More details have come of the newly launched connectivity initiative PM-WANI.
Basically, now almost anyone can provide wifi internet to the public.
Millions of WiFi antennas will be deployed across the country, all broadcasting the same SSID(WiFi name), all operating under the same network with roaming facility.
There will be a common app which will handle account registration, payment/recharge of account, locating and connecting to the common network.
They are claiming per GB price of under a rupee.
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The new communication network will eat into the revenue of cellphone operators. It might delay 5g. It allows the lakhs of LCOs(local cable operators) who provide wired broadband(besides cable) to join the initiative and offload their last mile data into the PM-WANI network.
A nationwide common WiFi network isn't new.
Basically, now almost anyone can provide wifi internet to the public.
Millions of WiFi antennas will be deployed across the country, all broadcasting the same SSID(WiFi name), all operating under the same network with roaming facility.
There will be a common app which will handle account registration, payment/recharge of account, locating and connecting to the common network.
They are claiming per GB price of under a rupee.
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The new communication network will eat into the revenue of cellphone operators. It might delay 5g. It allows the lakhs of LCOs(local cable operators) who provide wired broadband(besides cable) to join the initiative and offload their last mile data into the PM-WANI network.
A nationwide common WiFi network isn't new.
linkPM-WANI allows anyone — a kirana shop owner, a tea-stall vendor, or a Common Service Centre — to resell internet to its customers without a licence and without fees! By installing a wireless router, they can get on the PM-WANI network and start selling connectivity.
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What would be the radius of coverage of this wide area network under PM -WANI? The smallest of villages and there were quite a few, inhabited by my uncles and aunts had a population of a little under 1000 people back in the 70s. It was small but definitely bigger in area than say, a large Station like Madras Central where a Google's free wi-fi service is available. Now, that must have cost quite a bit although it was probably nothing for Google. It must have a Government funding component for private enterprise to set up the infrastructure. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong. Can someone clarify?
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This is Wi-fi not cellular so range is limited to the range of the access point. It looks as if this is a variant of the free Wi-fi service that you get from ISPs such as BT in UK or Telefonica in Europe. Being ISPs the provide Internet access to thousands of users in their homes and provide a modem and wifi router. That router advertises 2 networks, one is unique for that users use (nandakumars ssid for example) and the other is a BT net SSID which is a common SSId for all their users. BT controls who gets to use BT net network through a common interface. The advantage here is that whenever in the country the subscriber goes, due to the large installed base, the subscriber is sure to find somewhere someone that is transmitting BT net SSId which he can access and get internet service. Note that there is no roaming.nandakumar wrote:What would be the radius of coverage of this wide area network under PM -WANI? The smallest of villages and there were quite a few, inhabited by my uncles and aunts had a population of a little under 1000 people back in the 70s. It was small but definitely bigger in area than say, a large Station like Madras Central where a Google's free wi-fi service is available. Now, that must have cost quite a bit although it was probably nothing for Google. It must have a Government funding component for private enterprise to set up the infrastructure. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong. Can someone clarify?
This is similar except the government will offer these modems that will transmit this ssid that any kirana shopowner with an internet connection can use. Access to it will be seamless everywhere since it is a common interface for registering. The shopowner gets a cut somehow.
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Tanaji, thanks.
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I have at home XFINITY wifi. It sets up three networks 5GHz, 2.4 GHz, and an open XFINITIWIFI. I can turn off the Xfinitiwifi if I want to. But if I do not anyone who has an account with Xfinity can use it. The first two are for my use and are password protected. Also if I go to someones place and if they have Xfiniti, my phone automatically connects to it. I do not even have to ask his permission. That way Xfinity creates thousands of wifi points any of its subscribers can use.
Someone filed a case against Xfinity about this free hot points. I do not know what happened to it.
Someone filed a case against Xfinity about this free hot points. I do not know what happened to it.
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Samsung Likely To Apply For PLI Scheme To Domestically Produce 4G, 5G Equipment For Local And Global Sales
Samsung Electronics will apply for the 12,295-crore production-linked incentive (PLI) scheme to produce 4G and 5G gear along with other equipment in India for domestic and overseas sales purposes.
The company expects to supply its telecom gear to Reliance Jio and also anticipates attracting other international clients through its new factory that will be established in Uttar Pradesh. Hence, the South Korean multinational giant is set to join the likes of Foxconn, Flex, Jabil, Cisco, Nokia, and Ericcson in applying for the PLI scheme in order to enhance local production of telecom equipment...
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HC junks Juhi Chawla's suit against 5G, imposes Rs 20 lakh fine
The Delhi high court on Friday dismissed a lawsuit filed by actor Juhi Chawla against the setting up of 5G wireless networks across India and imposed a Rs 20 lakh fine on the plaintiffs for "abusing the process of law".
In its order dismissing the plea, the bench said the lawsuit was defective and wasted the court's time.
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Indian judesial system does work, what a kick in the ass to the shameless *#@&*##Manish_P wrote:
HC junks Juhi Chawla's suit against 5G, imposes Rs 20 lakh fine
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Famous for being infamous ...........it doesn't come cheap.. made my day. There is difference between education and real education.
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Error on the part of the court. She should have been banned for 5 years from using a mobile phone.
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Along with keeping the Chens out,their Chin-built mobiles too should be firmly kept out of the 5-G market with a blanket ban on all Chin mobile phones.
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Its a curious case. Until 2019 Juhi Chawla was one of the few bollywood celebrities who was vocally supportive of the current government, so what changed and why against 5G of all things ? Maybe something to do with her husband who owns a conglomerate of businesses and may have some rivalry with Indian telcos ? Bizarre but also a lesson never ever to trust any of the showbiz people including Akshay Kumar who is friends with rabid paki jihadis like Tony Ashai and his brother.
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Intel to work with India's Reliance Jio on 5G network technology
(Reuters) - Intel Corp on Monday said it will work with India's Reliance Jio to develop 5G networking technology.
Intel's venture capital unit last year invested $250 million in Reliance Industries Ltd's Jio Platforms unit, saying the two companies would find areas of technology partnership. On Monday, Intel said it will work on "co-innovations" with Reliance Jio for its 5G radio-access network (RAN), among other things.
"This is the fruit of that partnership," Navin Shenoy, executive vice president and general manager of the data platforms group at Intel, told Reuters in an interview. "5G in India is going to be massive, and (Reliance Jio) are doing it in a non-legacy way."
Reliance Jio is one of many carriers around the world using a new approach to build 5G networks. Rather than using gear primarily from telecommunications-specific firms such as Nokia, Ericsson or Huawei Technologies Cos, carriers are shifting toward using software to handle more network functions and tapping the same kind of standard computing equipment used in data centers to run the networks.
Intel, for its part, has been losing share in its core data center and personal computing markets to rivals such as Advanced Micro Devices Inc after years of manufacturing troubles. But networking chips have become an increasingly important part of its business, growing 20% in 2020 to account for $6 billion of its $77.9 billion in overall sales.
Dan Rodriguez, general manager of Intel's network platforms group, said part of that growth has come from Intel's decision nearly a decade ago to invest in software akin to an operating system for its network chips. The system, called FlexRAN, lets carriers or software firms write code for 5G networks.
Intel said Monday that software from Cohere Technologies could double utilization of some network spectrum using Intel's chips, benefiting carriers that spend billions acquiring spectrum rights.
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Bharti Airtel, TCS announce collaboration to build 5G networks in India
nice to see IT companies joining the 5g ecosystem.
nice to see IT companies joining the 5g ecosystem.
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5G: An Open Door for America’s Demise
Declan Hayes
January 24, 2023
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At day’s end, gamers, streamers and forward looking companies and governments will choose Chinese technology over America’s technologically challenged bullies.
5G is fantastic for everyone who wants to video call, stream movies or play games online. Not only is it infinitely faster than what is currently out there but, according to this FAQ, it is entirely safe, just like all those Pfizer Covid shots people jacked up on. As 5G is also pivotal to the Internet of Things, which stands at the heart of the World Economic Forum’s plans for our future, it is all good.
There are, alas, several pertinent and inter-related problems with 5G. The first of these is that Chinese company Huawei is far and away the world leader in this field, with Finnish firm Nokia and Sweden’s Ericsson’s taking up the distant rear and with no other company, American or otherwise, in the race.
This is a problem as 5G’s technology is such that it allows the provider, Huawei, Nokia or Ericsson, pry into their customer’s business, should they so wish, and thereby give them a massive competitive advantage in that and other, related ways.
Because that is a situation up with which the CIA will not put, the U.S. true to form, has been intimidating all and sundry and warning them of the dangers China, their ultimate nemesis, presents. It was for this reason that Canada, one of the U.S.’ more despicable colonies, arrested Huawei CFO Meng Wangzhou and held her for four years, on the CIA’s orders, on trumped up charges before being forced to release her.
Quite why we should fear Chinese spying, when the U.S. are the world’s leading Peeping Toms spying, as they do, on friend and foe alike, is anyone’s guess. Ditto the great auto companies of Japan and Germany, who are no strangers to the U.S. stealing their technology; the U.S., after all, only first took off by stealing England’s industrial trade secrets and they robbed them of every military edge they had in the early stages of the Second World War. The American track record is such that the thieving magpie, rather than the bald eagle, should be their national emblem.
But, as our American friends would proclaim, all that was then and now is now. The U.S. feels that Nokia and Ericsson are no real problem as, if they cannot be intimidated into handing over their technologies, they can be bought off with a fat CIA check. But there is a problem with that. Although the CIA can write all the dud checks it likes, even for them, it is a case of caveat emptor, buyer beware.
Finland and Sweden are two relatively small American satraps run by coked up women who, for reasons best known to themselves, want to have an all-out war with neighboring Russia which, whatever its merits, would not do much for investor confidence.
Add to that the fact that both Ericsson and Nokia are multinationals which, whilst trying to retain Swedes and Finns as the key decision makers, are dependent upon international finance and huge armies of Indian engineers to stay in business. Those engineers are the jewels in the crown and there is no guarantee that India or some other nation might not entice them with a better offer and leave the CIA with nothing but redundant Finnish and Swedish executives, together with Greta Thunberg and a bunch of second-hand saunas full of coked up, war-mongering women to show for their efforts.
And then there is China, the literal elephant in hi-tech’s room. One does not have to like China, approve of China or dis-approve of China but one must know what China is. China is a colossus that can throw 100 engineers at a problem for every one engineer its Scandinavian competitors can. They cannot be hemmed in.
Japanese companies warned Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) not to give China their bullet train technology but MHI went ahead, taught the Chinese, who proved to be keen students and keener engineers. Chinese bullet trains are now popping up globally, making the CIA look foolish as it plays at hack a mole, Chinese bullet trains and other Chinese advances to be more precise, such as those in 5G, which are popping up everywhere and showing the world there is an alternative to Pfizer, Coca Cola and the U.S. Marine Corps.
Although 5G conceivably should, like packs of cigarettes, come with a government health warning about the dangers of buying Chinese, there is a different and much more traditional way of looking at China’s technological advances. China, no more than Microsoft or any other CIA controlled Silicon Valley company, is merely a rent-seeker, instituting a 5G system that will yield it increased and steady dividends and, if Chinese prowess means the end of American hegemony, the CIA will have to accept that, just as the Romans had to accept their own demise by the death of a thousand technological cuts.
Though the U.S. Embassy in Tunisia can sponsor all the scary meetings on 5G it likes, at day’s end, gamers, streamers and forward looking companies and governments will choose Chinese technology over America’s technologically challenged bullies. And, taking the long view and irrespective of what negative externalities China’s ascent may bring with it, the fall of the American Empire has to be as welcome as that of all the other blood soaked empires that went before it.
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https://www.spiceworks.com/tech/network ... is-6g/amp/
That could very well explain S Korean rush to implement 6G networks. ..in 2030 . Terabytes in seconds.
That could very well explain S Korean rush to implement 6G networks. ..in 2030 . Terabytes in seconds.