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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby KJo » 31 Mar 2020 01:13

milindc wrote:
Zynda wrote:A pretty basic question: Does hand wash solutions like Dettol, Lifebuoy & Salvon etc., are as, less or more effective when compared to soap (bars) during hand washing?

No. Per the sources, soap both bar or bottled washes off the oil and dirt from your hands. Important thing is soap coverage and around 20-30 seconds of rinsing in flowing water to wash off the virus. Warm water above 30C helps in this process but even cold water is good.


I watched a video where they say that any soap is good, but the washing should be minimum 20 seconds. The soap material kills the protein layer around the virus and destroys it (as I recall). 30 secs seems to be a safe time period.

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Postby Bart S » 31 Mar 2020 01:22

ranneel wrote:Now it's +208
Spike could be because of more tests results coming in like this from Mumbai:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 880611.cms


It is because of the Tableeghi/Towheed nonsense. Expect 2-3K spike in cases owing to those groups alone, in the coming days.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Primus » 31 Mar 2020 01:25

Rsatchi wrote:^^^
Sure available long before that but only post 1962 after an enactment, did the GOI offer it to the public!!


I don't know about far-flung rural areas, but all my cousins, those older than me even, were vaccinated in the early 50s, in and around Delhi, Calcutta, rural Haryana. As I said, we bear the scars. We were nothing special, just part of that same 'public'. SHQ was born in a tier 3 city in the Hindi heartland and was also vaccinated long before 1962.

Sorry mods, please delete if causing too much thread drift, just need to get the facts right.
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Postby shaun » 31 Mar 2020 01:27

https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/fig ... 588641.htm


Fight against coronavirus: Skanray-BEL; AgVa-Maruti receive orders to provide 40,000 ventilators

The availability of ventilators is critical as the number of coronavirus cases rise in India. To prepare for an unforeseen eventuality, the government has placed orders to procure 40,000 ventilators from two domestic manufacturers.

The order has been placed with Bharat Electronic and Mysuru-based Skanray Technologies to manufacture 30,000 ventilators, while a second order for 10,000 ventilators has been given to a consortium of Maruti Suzuki and Noida-based ventilator maker AgVa Healthcare.

Domestic manufacturers, who were mostly assembling ventilators, recently indicated their inability to source critical parts from supplier markets due to restrictions on imports. The only possible solution was to use indigenous designs and components for basic ventilators and an auto major along with a auto components manufacturer have collaborated to developed basic ventilators.

The government’s purchase order has brought smaller ventilator makers in the spotlight.

Noida-based AgVa Healthcare is one such home-grown company that has tied up with Maruti Suzuki to scale up production to 10,000 ventilators per month.

R C Bhargava, Chairman of Maruti Suzuki told CNBC TV18, “To quickly get on with manufacturing, we took up the existing design and technology developed by AgVa, which was one of the companies sent to us by the government.”

Maruti has taken up premises from one of its large vendors in Noida to use it for manufacturing ventilators.

“Three of our vendors who will help with manufacturing components have already got drawings and are building prototypes, which will be ready by Wednesday [April 1],” Bhargava added.

AgVa will work on two distributed manufacturing lines to manufacture ventilators, one is housed in its facility, while the second at Maruti's plant. The company hopes to get the government order ready within a month.

AgVa, started two years ago by Professor Diwakar Vaish and Dr Deepak Agarwal, has developed a low cost, portable ventilator. The company sources nearly 40 percent of the ventilator components that it manufactured at its Noida facility, from Shenzhen in China, Germany and South Korea. The company is looking at alternate suppliers in India. A basic ventilator with majority parts sourced locally is priced at Rs 1.5 lakh and can go up to Rs 2 to Rs 2.5 lakh.

However, as local component manufacturers are unable to scale up production, auto major Maruti Suzuki stepped in with their expertise in assembly, manpower and parts manufacturing. Bhargava said, “Most difficult part is on imported components, that has to be sourced from China and I understand one consignment of imported components will be in by Thursday.” Another critical challenge is of working capital for smaller manufacturers, hence Maruti is assisting AgVa to get short term loans and other lines of credit.

Agva started manufacturing and selling its ventilators in 2018 and so far has installed around 600 ventilators, with over half sold and the rest donated. Their clients include hospitals such as AIIMS and smaller set-ups in cities like Jaipur. The ventilators which are donated are mainly for home care, for patients who require support upon discharge from critical care.

Meanwhile, Mysuru-based ventilator manufacturer Skanray Technologies has ramped up capacity and plans to manufacture 1 lakh ventilators over the next three months. Earlier, the company would manufacture 200 ventilators per month.

Founder and MD Vishwaprasad Alva has said that the company plans to utilise a network of component suppliers and local manufacturers to ramp up production. “The idea is to simplify the design, to make it adequate for COVID-19 patients. We will share the design and certain critical components with other companies who can locally manufacture these ventilators quickly. We are opening up our design IP,” he stressed.

The company has tied up with Bharat Electronic Ltd (BEL), a public sector undertaking under the Ministry of Defence, for support on ramping up production. Alva told CNBC-TV18, “We have limited production capacity in our existing plants, only up to 5,000. So we will be manufacturing Government of India orders in BEL’s manufacturing facility in Bengaluru.”

Skanray has been working with Niti Aayog, DRDO and the Karnataka government on design and supply of locally-sourced components. It is also looking at sourcing similar components from the aeronautical and auto industry. The company has two units that are capable of manufacturing ventilators - one in Mysore and another in Italy. The company has already received orders of 5,000 ventilators from Karnataka, Kerala and Maharashtra state governments.

Skanray has received financial and technical commitment from Biocon founder Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw, philanthropist Sudha Murthy and Dr Devi Shetty of NH Hospitals.

Industry estimates say that India currently requires approximately 50,000 ventilators. The Ministry of Health and Family Welfare said on March 30 that over 14,000 ventilators have been earmarked for COVID-19 patients. Estimates suggest that when COVID-19 cases peak in India, the requirement for ventilators could go up to nearly 1 lakh. Other auto majors like Mahindra and Mahindra and Tata have also indicated their efforts in developing respirators and entry level ventilators.

Chandrajit Banerjee, DG of CII said, “A consortium of various auto and auto component manufacturers has been tasked to look at mass production of low frequency pulmonary, non-invasive ventilators. Here DRDO will be the guiding agency that will sharing designs and companies will look at developing from available technology.”

Naresh Trehan of Medanta Hospitals and head of CII healthcare committee said, “We need safety standards in place and new ventilators must be tested before putting it to clinical use. Even if prototypes are ready, we need at least 40-72 hours of non-stopping working of the prototype to test.”

Servicing these large number of ventilators is yet another challenge and Trehan suggests the government looks at regionalising the servicing aspects.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby shaun » 31 Mar 2020 01:30

30-March, 2020 15:45 IST
Ministry of Health and Family Welfare
COVID-19 Update: Availability of PPE kits, N95 masks and ventilators

The prevention, containment and management of COVID-19 in the country are being monitored at the highest level and various actions have been initiated in collaboration with the States. In order to meet the requirement of PPEs, masks and ventilators, factories producing essential items are working round the clock and ordinance factories are trying to produce personal protection equipment for medical personnel. While Bharat Electronics Limited is going to manufacture ventilators, all drug companies have assured the government that there will not be any shortage of drugs during this crisis and even auto manufacturers are working to develop and produce ventilators. Medical personnel are being trained and are fully prepared for any emergencies.

Personal protection equipment (PPE) kits are used by medical personnel working in isolation areas and intensive care units to protect them from acquiring infections. They were not being manufactured in the country. With the prospect of huge requirement of PPEs arising in the near future, the Government of India made proactive efforts to promote their manufacturing in the country.

Ministry of Textiles and Ministry of Health and Family Welfare have been working together in this endeavour. Domestic manufacturers rose to the occasion and so far 11 manufacturers have cleared quality tests. Orders for 21 lakh PPE coveralls have been placed on them. Currently they are supplying 6-7,000 coveralls per day and this is expected to go up to 15,000 per day within the next week. One more manufacturer has qualified today and an order of 5 lakh coveralls has been placed with him.

As of now, 3.34 lakh PPEs are available in various hospitals across the country. About 60,000 PPE kits have already been procured and supplied by Government of India. Indian Red cross society has arranged 10,000 PPEs from China which have also been received and are being distributed. Another 3 lakh donated PPE coveralls are to arrive by 4th April. An order for 3 lakh PPEs has been placed with ordinance factories.

Foreign sources of PPE kits are also faced with a huge increase in the worldwide demand. They are being approached through the Ministry of External Affairs. A Singapore based online platform has been identified which can supply 10 lakh PPE kits and an order has been placed through Ministry of External Affairs to procure them. Another supplier based in Korea, who has tie ups with production companies in Vietnam and Turkey has been identified with daily production capacity of over 1 lakh PPE kits.Orders arebeing placed on this company through MEA for supplying 20 lakh PPE kits.

N95 masks are being manufactured by two domestic producers. They are able to supply 50,000 masks per day at the moment, but are ramping up capacities to make 1 lakh masks per day within the next week. DRDO is also collaborating with local manufacturers to produce about 20,000 N99 masks per day. This supply is also expected to become available in a week’s time.

Hospitals in the country have 11.95 lakh N95 masks in stock as of now. Additional 5 lakh masks were distributed in the past two days and 1.40 lakh masks are being distributed today. 10 lakh masks would be part of the PPE kits being sourced from Singapore.

Ventilators are required for Covid-19 patients, as they tend to develop acute respiratory disease syndrome (ARDS). Less than 20 covid-19 patients are on ventilator support at this moment. As against this, over 14,000 ventilators have been identified in various hospitals across the country for treatment of covid-19 patients.

A domestic manufacturers Agva Healthcare in Noida has been able to develop suitable ventilators and an order of 10,000 ventilators has been placed on him.Supplies are expected to commence by the 2nd week of April. In addition, an order for 30,000 ventilators has been placed on Bharat Electronics Limited which is going to collaborate with domestic manufacturers in this endeavour. Indian Auto manufacturers are also preparing to manufacture ventilators.

In the meantime, orders have been placed on international companies like Hamilton, Mindray and Draeger to supply ventilators. Ministry of External Affairs is also approaching suppliers in China for sourcing 10,000 ventilators from them.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby hanumadu » 31 Mar 2020 01:52

somdev wrote:It is strongly advised to keep a bucket of soap water and dip anything coming into your home for 30 seconds, be it milk pouches, bread packets, medicines, vegetables, grocery anything. The virus becomes neutral in 20 seconds and this soap water doesn’t get infected. The same soap solution can be used for many days. It is a 100% protection from corona virus coming into your home through basic stuff.


Really? Wash vegetables in soap water?

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Postby Bart S » 31 Mar 2020 02:25

somdev wrote:It is strongly advised to keep a bucket of soap water and dip anything coming into your home for 30 seconds, be it milk pouches, bread packets, medicines, vegetables, grocery anything. The virus becomes neutral in 20 seconds and this soap water doesn’t get infected. The same soap solution can be used for many days. It is a 100% protection from corona virus coming into your home through basic stuff.


This sounds like very questionable advice. Soap water without the rubbing is unlikely to disinfect viruses just like that, on contact simply by dipping in a bucket of soap water.

If you want that kind of disinfection use diluted 1% bleach (household bleach is dilute already so make sure that you factor that in to the overall mix) solution to thoroughly wipe and wet the product and let it dry off by itself. Bleach is cheap, easily available and fast acting.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Bart S » 31 Mar 2020 02:29

hanumadu wrote:
somdev wrote:It is strongly advised to keep a bucket of soap water and dip anything coming into your home for 30 seconds, be it milk pouches, bread packets, medicines, vegetables, grocery anything. The virus becomes neutral in 20 seconds and this soap water doesn’t get infected. The same soap solution can be used for many days. It is a 100% protection from corona virus coming into your home through basic stuff.


Really? Wash vegetables in soap water?


Soaking in potassium permanganate solution or hydrogen peroxide solution is an option. However you can use certain soaps for washing vegetables, so long as you wash off the residue thoroughly. For e.g Dettol dishwash, it uses lactic acid (which is natural and safe) as it's active ingredient and is pretty effective.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby chetak » 31 Mar 2020 02:32

Harsh Goenka@hvgoenka·Mar 29
A test kit made in India for CoVID- 19. It cost Rs 12 per test as against Rs 4500 for imported kits .Can manufacture 200,000 kits per week.
Minal Bhosale delivered first testing kit and within 4 hours delivered her baby.
Salute to her entrepreneurship!



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Meet Minal Dakhave Bhosale, the R&D Chief of Mylab. She led the team that designed India's first indigenous #COVID19 testing kit.

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Postby vijayk » 31 Mar 2020 02:39

Is this approved? Is someone backing them up financially. lets get this test to all

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Postby vijayk » 31 Mar 2020 02:39

Bart S wrote:
hanumadu wrote:
Really? Wash vegetables in soap water?


Soaking in potassium permanganate solution or hydrogen peroxide solution is an option. However you can use certain soaps for washing vegetables, so long as you wash off the residue thoroughly. For e.g Dettol dishwash, it uses lactic acid (which is natural and safe) as it's active ingredient and is pretty effective.


Does vinegar work?

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Postby vijayk » 31 Mar 2020 02:45

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/ur ... 920151040/

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Necessity is the mother of invention

Dr. M. Saud Anwar (who happens to be a Senator from great state of Connecticut #proud) worked with some amazing innovators to develop an accessory that supports up to seven patients on a single ventilator, thank you!!! #3Dprinting #americaninnovation #heroes #innovation

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby ranneel » 31 Mar 2020 02:49

This Tabligi jamaat seems to have spawned cases in different places in tamil nadu,telangana,Srinagar and as far as Andaman Nicobar.
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/corona ... 902930.cms
10 deaths are attributed to this.Article mentions that the objective of the group is to live life like in the Times of Prophet Mohammed. One reason for the high numbers could be that they refused to go to a doctor till it got real serious or this strain is really serious and dangerous.Must be the former most likely.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Bart S » 31 Mar 2020 02:58

vijayk wrote:
Bart S wrote:
Soaking in potassium permanganate solution or hydrogen peroxide solution is an option. However you can use certain soaps for washing vegetables, so long as you wash off the residue thoroughly. For e.g Dettol dishwash, it uses lactic acid (which is natural and safe) as it's active ingredient and is pretty effective.


Does vinegar work?


Don't know, but unlikely I think as most household vinegar is quite diluted, and you will likely dilute it further if you plan on soaking vegetables in it.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Bart S » 31 Mar 2020 02:58

Some good CCP Coronavirus artwork for whoever needs it:
http://www.chinauncensored.tv/wp-conten ... nsored.jpg

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby sajo » 31 Mar 2020 03:05

Dear admins, posting someone's plea for help from the Houston Area. If inappropriate, please delete. Several people I know seem to know the original poster, so seems genuine enough.

Dearest Family, friends, and well-wishers,
It is my fervent prayer that you’re all taking care of each other and protecting yourselves during these trying times. It is with despair and intense anxiety that I share the trauma that my family is undergoing right now. My beloved husband, Rohan, has been severely stricken with the dreaded Covid 19. He is desperately ill and has been hospitalized for the past week. His condition is dire. I want so much to have him return home to me and our three beautiful young children, all of who are under eight years of age.
On behalf of my babies and me, I urgently request the support of the community in helping him make a full recovery. We are looking for a plasma donor with blood group A or AB. The donor cannot be currently actively infected (must have recovered).

The ideal donor is someone that has recovered from COVID-19 infection in the last two weeks and is willing to donate plasma. We will be forever grateful!



Link to FB post with phone numbers

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... =717158053


Question to Hakim's : how effective is plasma transfer from a recovered patient to one who's is reeling under one? How far should the disease have progressed in order for the doctors to try this? Is it one of the initial lines of treatment?

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby ranneel » 31 Mar 2020 03:12

Here another one...blatant violation of janata curfew by tabligi jamat
https://www.google.com/amp/s/frontline. ... 0.ece/amp/

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby sum » 31 Mar 2020 05:02

One single lady of a church cult in South Korea caused the numbers to shoot from 20 odd to 6000. So just hoping that this Jamat isnt Indian version of that!

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby vijayk » 31 Mar 2020 05:16

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/dr- ... ak-update/
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak [UPDATES]

Dr. Zelenko said the whole treatment costs only $20 over a period of 5 days with 100% success. He defines success as “Not to die.” Dr. Zelenko first posted his Facebook video message last week calling on President Trump to “advise the country that they should be taking this medication.”

There are many other success stories about hydroxychloroquine across the country. Last week, Dr. William Grace, an oncologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, said they’ve not had a single death in their hospital because of hydroxychloroquine. “Thanks to hydroxychloroquine, we have not had a death in our hospital,’ Dr. Grace said.


In Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)

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Postby sudarshan » 31 Mar 2020 05:47

vijayk wrote:https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-100-success-using-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-zinc-z-pak-update/
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak [UPDATES]


I just don't get this. Seems to be a cheap enough drug, also with enough history of use and relatively plentiful. Why do hospitals in NYC have to go through hell, and why do people have to desperately appeal for plasma donors, if this drug is working?

From reading on this thread, it seems that:

* The drug is pretty safe, doctors say so
* The drug is extremely dangerous, doctors say so
* The drug can really work, there are reasons for its antiviral properties, doctors say so
* The drug is no better than a placebo (not my words), at best it can block 10% of the receptors, doctors say so
* Combined with azythromycin, it is even better
* Combined with azythromycin, it is even more dangerous

If patients are at death's door with hours to live anyway, would this drug not be worth a try at that point?

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Postby V_Raman » 31 Mar 2020 05:58

It is too cheap to be a cure - how will pharma make money?

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Postby sudarshan » 31 Mar 2020 06:12

^ Don't know if the mods consider that a CT, but that's easy. Get those COVID-19 patients quickly cured and out the door, so that pharma can make money off the routine patients.

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Postby vimal » 31 Mar 2020 06:32

vijayk wrote:https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-100-success-using-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-zinc-z-pak-update/
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak [UPDATES]



I shared this with my doctor friend and he told me that this is fake news and people should not try to self-medicate.

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Postby Bart S » 31 Mar 2020 06:34

vimal wrote:
vijayk wrote:https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-100-success-using-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-zinc-z-pak-update/
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak [UPDATES]



I shared this with my doctor friend and he told me that this is fake news and people should not try to self-medicate.


Fake news, and not trying to self-medicate are two separate things.

The latter is true, and fairly obvious.

What about the former? The article has a video interview of that doctor by Rudy Giuliani. If that is truly fake news it must be one heck of a con job! Not saying that it can't be fake, just that it needs better validation than my doctor friend said such and such.

Looks like FDA has just approved it's use in emergency medicine:

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/30/fda-approves-anti-malarial-drugs-chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine-for-emergency-coronavirus-treatment/#5b9a9815e5d1

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Postby SriKumar » 31 Mar 2020 06:47

A thought just struck me about how much longer can the Indian pulbic continue to rely on the police to 'do this and do that', in terms of keeping order, enforcing curfew, arresting quarantine escapees and returning them to their isolation ward etc. Self-regulation is the critical need of day.

Each time the police man does any of these duties- which have increased manifold the last few days, there is a risk of infection, and especially so if they have to manage the Covid +ve people on the street. Then you have the Tablighi Jamaat people (and their ilk) who have to be forced by police to break their illegal gatherings; there was report a week ago where a group of peaceful poeple beat up policemen that they were admitted to the hospital. The police people have to come into physical contact with all these guys and has a high chance of infection. An infected policeman cannot go back to duty, or he'll inect the whole police station. OVer time the number of infected police could rise and this is concerning. (Same situation goes for armed forces....they have to maintain their distance from civilians).

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Postby Jay » 31 Mar 2020 06:55

Bart S wrote:
What about the former? The article has a video interview of that doctor by Rudy Giuliani. If that is truly fake news it must be one heck of a con job! Not saying that it can't be fake, just that it needs better validation


This Giuliani a hole is turning out to be a big peddler if fake news to such an extent that Twitter has to cancel his account because of the amount of Mis information he’s propagating. We all are ok with trump and his Posse because he’s been good for India, but I would take everything trump and his minions say about this China virus with a bucket is salt. I trust our desi sources more than anything out there and for a valid reason.

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Postby Jay » 31 Mar 2020 06:56

V_Raman wrote:It is too cheap to be a cure - how will pharma make money?


Now we are going into CT realm. Let’s stop that now, especially this thread.

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Postby Bart S » 31 Mar 2020 07:16

Jay wrote:
Bart S wrote:
What about the former? The article has a video interview of that doctor by Rudy Giuliani. If that is truly fake news it must be one heck of a con job! Not saying that it can't be fake, just that it needs better validation


This Giuliani a hole is turning out to be a big peddler if fake news to such an extent that Twitter has to cancel his account because of the amount of Mis information he’s propagating. We all are ok with trump and his Posse because he’s been good for India, but I would take everything trump and his minions say about this China virus with a bucket is salt. I trust our desi sources more than anything out there and for a valid reason.


His twitter was suspended temporarily because he claimed that the FDA had approved the use of the drug, when it actually had not. Turns out that the FDA approved it hours later, so he might have had some inside information that he inadvertently leaked, or maybe he just went overboard there. Regardless of what his agenda is, I am not convinced that whatever he says about the drug is necessarily fake news. If he interviewed a fake doctor, or a real doctor who was making stuff up, I am sure that it can be debunked pretty easily without dismissing it outright just because of his association with Trump.

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Postby fanne » 31 Mar 2020 08:36

Jay, please if this news is genuine, please do not go around spreading FUD. This is no time for politics. People are actually making life/death decision based on that. If the news is true, reporting it as fake, mostly because of political belief is insane. It mostly started when Trump claimed this as the wonder drug.
Bart S, is there link for FDA approval?

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Postby Gerard » 31 Mar 2020 08:40

Sweden says no to quarantine – is this the most reckless or the most proportionate Covid-19 response in the West?
This tactic is at odds with the strategy in the UK which has been to tell citizens to stay at home and limit leaving the house to once a day. Sweden’s experts have taken a very different view to the UK’s, with their state epidemiologist, Anders Tengell, saying the Imperial College London modelling, predicting 250,000 deaths and informing Boris Johnson’s strategy, is “pessimistic”. The latest numbers in Sweden show nearly 3,500 cases and 105 deaths. Tengell told The Observer: “As long as the Swedish epidemic development stays at this level, I don’t see any big reason to take measures that you can only keep up for a very limited amount of time.”

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Postby Nalla Baalu » 31 Mar 2020 08:43

Incredible! Hoarding Extremes of Ventilators.

WELL-OFF STOCKPILING VENTILATORS

Naman Jain of Teerthanker Mahaveer Traders in Delhi disclosed how high-ranking officials and housing societies are stockpiling portable ventilators, just in case.

An assistant commissioner of police, he insisted, was one of his customers who he said had recently bought three machines at a premium price.


"Do you mean he bought them for no immediate use?" the reporter asked.

"Nothing (of that sort). Just for safety purposes," Jain replied. "We, the vendors here, collectively had 6,000 ventilators, out of which 700-740 were Trilogy (portable Philips ventilators). Now only 11-12 are left," Jain said.

He revealed how apartments in a housing society pooled their money to buy 10-12 devices. "That's how it's gone to housing societies, most of them in Noida. A hundred houses buying ten of them, just in case."

A new BiPap machine, a type of ventilator, would normally cost around Rs 2.25 lakh, Jain said. "Now a used device is selling over Rs 1.5 lakh."

"How much would an old device otherwise cost?" asked the reporter.

"Around 60,000-85,000 rupees," the distributor replied.

Gursharan at Imperial Gases and Surgical Pvt Ltd in Delhi's Kotla area confessed that his company is also going to sell ventilators at premium because of high demands.

"Those who wanted to take it individually should have taken it before. They are making inquiries now for personal use when the demand has peaked," said Gursharan, wearing a mask. "As soon as we begin to run out of stock, we will increase the rates."

There's no guarantee about availability, he added. "They may be sold out while we are talking. We are getting many calls."

Gursharan demanded cash payment for supplying life-saving machines.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Pratyush » 31 Mar 2020 08:49

IIRC, BiPap machine is for sleep apnea. Don't know how effective it will be for dealing with CCP virus.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Nalla Baalu » 31 Mar 2020 09:16

Pratyush wrote:IIRC, BiPap machine is for sleep apnea. Don't know how effective it will be for dealing with CCP virus.


Interesting. Likely a case of the distributors pulling a fast one on clue-less hoarders.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby BSR Murthy » 31 Mar 2020 09:30

Million tests so far. 100K tests / day
A test that can show results in 5 mins
A 1000 bed hospital in 3 days
Multiple vaccines & therapeutics in human trials
Tens of millions of masks distributed
Tens of thousands of ventilators being made
Shoddy preparation. Decent catchup.
https://twitter.com/ramprasad_c/status/ ... 56448?s=20

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby saip » 31 Mar 2020 09:31

BiPAP is known as non-invasive ventilators. So may be it can force air into the lungs if the patient does not have severe respiratory distress. Looks like they go for $1200 in the USA.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Cain Marko » 31 Mar 2020 10:40

chetak wrote:
Harsh Goenka@hvgoenka·Mar 29
A test kit made in India for CoVID- 19. It cost Rs 12 per test as against Rs 4500 for imported kits .Can manufacture 200,000 kits per week.
Minal Bhosale delivered first testing kit and within 4 hours delivered her baby.
Salute to her entrepreneurship!



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Meet Minal Dakhave Bhosale, the R&D Chief of Mylab. She led the team that designed India's first indigenous #COVID19 testing kit.

That should be Rs. 1200, not 12 iirc.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby kvraghav » 31 Mar 2020 10:45

Cain Marko wrote:
chetak wrote:

That should be Rs. 1200, not 12 iirc.

The kit is 1200 and can be used for 100 samples. That's why the number is 12 per test sample.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Cain Marko » 31 Mar 2020 10:49

kvraghav wrote:
Cain Marko wrote:That should be Rs. 1200, not 12 iirc.

The kit is 1200 and can be used for 100 samples. That's why the number is 12 per test sample.

Aha. Thank you for the correction. It would be amazing if each sample test was 1200. At 12 bucks it's in the realm of miraculous.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby DrRatnadip » 31 Mar 2020 10:52

sudarshan wrote:
vijayk wrote:https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-100-success-using-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-zinc-z-pak-update/
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak [UPDATES]


I just don't get this. Seems to be a cheap enough drug, also with enough history of use and relatively plentiful. Why do hospitals in NYC have to go through hell, and why do people have to desperately appeal for plasma donors, if this drug is working?

From reading on this thread, it seems that:

* The drug is pretty safe, doctors say so
* The drug is extremely dangerous, doctors say so
* The drug can really work, there are reasons for its antiviral properties, doctors say so
* The drug is no better than a placebo (not my words), at best it can block 10% of the receptors, doctors say so
* Combined with azythromycin, it is even better
* Combined with azythromycin, it is even more dangerous

If patients are at death's door with hours to live anyway, would this drug not be worth a try at that point?


I dont understand what is problem in using chloroquine and why people are raising concerns about it's safety.. It is sometimes given by paramedical staff in villages who dont know what is arrythmia..
Sometimes when we are looking for fancy solutions we tend to ignore obvious options.. I would any day preffer choloquine over some new drug whose long term effects are unknown.. At least we are well aware of side effects and their management of chloroquine..


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