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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Karan M » 13 Apr 2020 06:13

saip wrote:I found this Lauren Frayer on the facebook. She does not hide her hatred towards Hindus and India. Not a single post from her which is NOT an anti-India.


Most likely a missionary type. Was in Spain. Wont be surprised if there is a link there. Nothing else explains her visceral bigotry and dislike of Hindus.

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Postby Karan M » 13 Apr 2020 06:26

Guys I was right - I think. Needs to be on another thread. But she was a reporter for the Gospel Herald. Like I thought, an EJ type but likely non-catholic, carefully chosen for the India post by NPR to report on "Hindu nationalism" and to portray it as uncouth and murderous.

https://www.gospelherald.com/reporter/lauren-frayer

She was also in Pakistan.
https://www.nhpr.org/post/whats-next-ja ... n#stream/0

NPR's Lauren Frayer reports from Islamabad, Lauren Frayer, NPR News, Islamabad. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.


On FB - note the agenda openly stated - the stories are all the usual about Hindus being murderers, Islamophobic etc:

"Earlier this year, I spent several months traveling around India reporting on how Hindu nationalism is reshaping the country. The result was a series of 6 stories, whose themes still resonate in so much of our coverage. You can listen & read here

https://www.facebook.com/pg/laurenfraye ... e_internal

Its a sad fact that the GOI has not taken any action against these WaPo, NPR, NYT type of vultures and that has emboldened them.

Anyways - ending this here, please continue discussion on another thread.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Karan M » 13 Apr 2020 06:36

https://www.manufacturingtodayindia.com ... tered-bank

Standard Chartered Bank is supporting an indigenized, affordable, portable and invasive ventilator prototype being developed by IIT Kanpur and its incubated company Nocca Robotics along with the Indian Angel Network. Standard Chartered Bank has approved a generous CSR funding that will be used for research and development of the prototype, followed by testing of the device and clinical trials.

The ventilator design has been conceptualized by Nocca Robotics in such a way that it can be manufactured on a large scale at multiple sites using materials easily available with Indian suppliers and manufacturers. The ventilator is also capable of working with medical airline and oxygen as well as ambient air and oxygen, thus making it usable in a variety of different conditions.

The ventilator will also be connected to a mobile phone to control the device and monitor critical information. Since it will require very low wattage to run, it can be powered using solar panels.

It is also noteworthy that the ventilator will be priced at a fraction of the cost proposed by competitors across the world developing similar devices. Also, as opposed to the non-invasive ventilators being currently developed, this design will be of the invasive kind, keeping in mind the needs of COVID-19 patients for respiratory support.

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Postby nandakumar » 13 Apr 2020 09:10

Rishirishi wrote:
saip wrote:When they do find a vaccine, I pray (even though I am an atheist) to all Gods in the Universe and fervently hope that it somehow involves the intestines of pigs and so it is haram. But when their lives depend on it I am sure will find an exception.


They will issue an fatwa allowing it. :)

For added proof a hadith would be unearthed that would be sanction it.

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Postby DrRatnadip » 13 Apr 2020 09:53

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/mahara ... 113510.cms

HCQ will be given in slum areas as preventive med..

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Postby nvishal » 13 Apr 2020 10:05

Lockdown isn't working in India

There.
I said it.

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Postby Sravan » 13 Apr 2020 10:20

nvishal wrote:Lockdown isn't working in India

There.
I said it.


Thank you. But you are wrong. Lockdown is working. It's about slowing the pace of infections so the hospital system isn't overwhelmed. Has this been accomplished? This has been done. So please shut it.

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Postby NRao » 13 Apr 2020 10:32

nvishal wrote:Lockdown isn't working in India

There.
I said it.


Things are not as good as one would like them to be. But, without a lockdown the situation would have been even worse. By some magnitude.

If 1st world nations could experience 10s of 1000s death, no surprise if loss of lives are higher in lesser nations.

In the case of India, I think, the curve is a few weeks behind. So, I would compare numbers between US/Italy now with Indian numbers some 3 to 4 weeks out.

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Postby habal » 13 Apr 2020 10:42

Lockdown is not working in Dharavi and other slum/ghetto pockets of Mumbai.

Dharavi needs to be ring-fenced and contained and its citizens blocked from travelling outside. Makeshift hospitals should be set up in Dharavi and well stocked with HCQ etc. If this is not done on an immidiate basis Mumbai is in for a long period of pain due to dharavi. Best one can hope for Dharavi is total containment and herd immunity. Treatment of mildly sick people promptly is key to saving lives here.

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Postby NRao » 13 Apr 2020 11:04

Do not expect too much.

As an example, India has a population density twice that of Italy and 10x of USA (https://countryeconomy.com/countries/co ... sa?sc=XE92). Social distancing takes on a totally new meaning- if one can extract a meaning under the circumstances.

Considering that there is a lack of testing and PPE kits, world wide, simple extrapolation should provide some good numbers.

IMHO, GoI is doing it's best.

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Postby Sachin » 13 Apr 2020 11:29

COVID-19: UAE plans 'strict restrictions' on countries reluctant to take back their nationals.
The above was reported in a KL based news paper NOT known for very truthful reporting :roll:. The true intention of the report is obvious. That is to show that Modi government is not doing enough to bring back the Malayalis in the UAE. Or to cause panic and distruct in the minds of Keralites, which may force GoI to bring back the Malayali work force from the UAE. But what it is also clearly says is the true mind set of the middle eastern sheikdoms like UAE. These folks just want the cheap labour, and the moment a pandemic situation arises they will dump these folks. Actually it is an eye opener for the numerous Arab Sheikhdom lovers of Kerala. COVID-19 is also exposing the true mind sets of many people and countries.

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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 11:29

Per a video that I watched, NY city and India had the same number cases and then they started to diverge.

At that time India had 2 confirmed cases vs 3 for NY city.

After thta date we have seen multiple steps in India vs NY cities late response including late to lockdown. The results are there for all to see.

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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 11:30

Sachin wrote:COVID-19: UAE plans 'strict restrictions' on countries reluctant to take back their nationals.
The above was reported in a KL based news paper NOT known for very truthful reporting :roll:. The true intention of the report is obvious. That is to show that Modi government is not doing enough to bring back the Malayalis in the UAE. Or to cause panic and distruct in the minds of Keralites, which may force GoI to bring back the Malayali work force from the UAE. But what it is also clearly says is the true mind set of the middle eastern sheikdoms like UAE. These folks just want the cheap labour, and the moment a pandemic situation arises they will dump these folks. Actually it is an eye opener for the numerous Arab Sheikhdom lovers of Kerala. COVID-19 is also exposing the true mind sets of many people and countries.

There is already a report in Financial Times of London how India has left NRI all across the world to their own fate.

So a new angle to the crisis response by Modi has already started both inside and outside India.

Am pretty sure that we will see comparison of Gulf war evacuation vs Covid evacuation very soon all over not withstanding the angle of a highly infectious disease.

Everything is fair in propoganda.

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Postby Manish_P » 13 Apr 2020 12:00

habal wrote:Lockdown is not working in Dharavi and other slum/ghetto pockets of Mumbai.

Dharavi needs to be ring-fenced and contained and its citizens blocked from travelling outside. Makeshift hospitals should be set up in Dharavi and well stocked with HCQ etc. If this is not done on an immidiate basis Mumbai is in for a long period of pain due to dharavi. Best one can hope for Dharavi is total containment and herd immunity. Treatment of mildly sick people promptly is key to saving lives here.


Not just Dharavi, Govandi is probably going to be much worse... the first case was a local preacher who had attended the TJ meet in Nizamuddin

Mumbai: Sudden spike in Covid-19 cases at Govandi slums

M-East Ward of Mumbai which consists of Govandi and Mankhurd reported 22 new Covid-19 cases in a day with a total of 70 cases so far. The number of cases is likely to increase on Monday. Most of these cases were from the slum pockets like Lotus Colony and Shivajinagar.

Govandi is a densely populated slum pocket and residents there suffer from respiratory illnesses. According to officials, over 5 lakh people live in an areas of less than 4 sq km in shanties that are at times even ground plus two structures.

According to BMC officials, fever camp at these slum pockets helped in identifying symptomatic patients. In Lotus Colony, 46 patients were screened at and swabs of 44 people were sent for testing out of which 29 people tested positive in the last few days. Similarly at Shivaji Nagar, 38 people have tested positive for Covid-19.

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Postby yensoy » 13 Apr 2020 12:45

nvishal wrote:Lockdown isn't working in India
There.
I said it.

Have you seen the various online trackers, and noticed the flattening of the curves? Kerala has flattened out. Remember, lockdown was not just to reduce the number of cases but also reduce the peak load and push it out in time so that it would give us time to prepare better. Furthermore, the whole mask and social distancing directive is only now being taken seriously by people (not all admittedly) after they have realized the gravity of the situation.

The bigger challenge will be how to exit the lockdown in an orderly and graded manner, with the possibility of resurgence of cases, and allowing for targeted geographical isolation so as to minimize the overall impact to the nation.

Meanwhile, WB continues to put out CCP statistics. 134 cases, yeah right.

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Postby yensoy » 13 Apr 2020 12:52

NRao wrote:As an example, India has a population density twice that of Italy and 10x of USA (https://countryeconomy.com/countries/co ... sa?sc=XE92). Social distancing takes on a totally new meaning- if one can extract a meaning under the circumstances.

Our population density is high, but that is not a deterrent, IMHO, to social distancing. Kerala is amongst the most dense states - it has higher density than UP even, and only Bihar and WB rank higher. Remember, a good part of Kerala is hilly and sparse populated, so in the thin coastal strip the density is even higher. Yet, Kerala has been able to keep the disease at bay and there are iconic photos of social distancing being practiced in the liquor shops.

I feel we have enough land to spread out, especially spread urban and suburban settlements with better land use, medium-rise constructions (4 floors), minimums for square footage per person and per family, and provision of infrastructure including security. This is by itself a multi-trillion dollar, multi year effort but it has to be done at some point in time with a grand scheme drawn up by the center, implemented by states and private parties together with quick enforcement of eminent domain. Decongestion of cities is a must.

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Postby madhu » 13 Apr 2020 12:58

nvishal wrote:Lockdown isn't working in India
There.
I said it.

sir plz check the details i have posted in previous page. if not click here
based on mathematical modeling for india, with the immediate institution of Non-Pharmacological Interventions (NPI) including social distancing and lockdown, total cases, hospitalizations, ICU requirements and deaths can be reduced by almost 90%.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby habal » 13 Apr 2020 13:15

the presence of slums and shacks in urban India is now going to bite back. This is where covid is going to spread in rampant fashion. These zones will need to be micromanaged from hereon.

Lockdown in middle-class and rich communities is almost success. It is the unregulated and thickly populated slums that will be a challenge now.

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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 13:49

Where there is will there is a way ...

In Delhi, as of yesterdin IIRC, they already had identified 30 pockets that were sealed. If sealing is what I think it is then it can be easily controlled. E.g. in Bangalore, it is stated that all entry/exit points of a sealed pocket will be blocked and essential services will be provided at the door by government. Effectively, no one will be allowed outside their door or compound. No further spreading by contact except in the household.

If such a strategy were to be adopted for Dharavi or the other such effected high density pockets, covid can be limited to what has already been spread. In 15 days all latent cases will have either taken hold or recovered and the final picture will have emerged by them without letting it spread anymore.

BUT is there a will in Mumbai to get it done in the "single source" areas and slums?

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Postby pgbhat » 13 Apr 2020 14:10

pankajs wrote:Where there is will there is a way ...

In Delhi, as of yesterdin IIRC, they already had identified 30 pockets that were sealed. If sealing is what I think it is then it can be easily controlled. E.g. in Bangalore, it is stated that all entry/exit points of a sealed pocket will be blocked and essential services will be provided at the door by government. Effectively, no one will be allowed outside their door or compound. No further spreading by contact except in the household.

If such a strategy were to be adopted for Dharavi or the other such effected high density pockets, covid can be limited to what has already been spread. In 15 days all latent cases will have either taken hold or recovered and the final picture will have emerged by them without letting it spread anymore.

BUT is there a will in Mumbai to get it done in the "single source" areas and slums?

Problem in Dharavi or any other slum for that matter is that of water and sanitation. In usual middle class or upper class household toilets are restricted to household members only during quarantine but that is not the case in a slum setting. Toilet becomes a common area and that just complicates everything else. Now we would have to keep track of people using common toilet 24x7. Obviously that just contributes to exponential growth and that is not easy to contain.

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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 14:20

^^
I had written a few more line with the common water/sanitation facility in mind but deleted them to leave the initial post uncluttered. Here it goes.

Large slums can be divided into blocks around shared water/sanitation facilities, with a clear entry/exit path, at as granular level as possible and each block be sealed off from the rest. That way the population of each block can be kept away from the rest and limit spread to within the block in the worst case scenario.

On top of that social distancing can be used to let people of a block use shared water / sanitation facilities under a strict watch. While far from ideal, this too could be effective in limiting the spread within the block.

Rest of the strategy of door delivery of essentials remain the same. In 15 days, the symptomatic cases would already have been removed, rest gets tested for latent covid and block with zero positive could be allowed back into the mainstream. The remaining would continue to be sealed for another 14/15 days just to be safe.

Will need the state to show some will.

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Postby alexis » 13 Apr 2020 14:25

sudeepj wrote:
Raja wrote:Most of the countries that are doing well have all done large scale testing (sooner, rather than later). I feel like our testing rates and testing protocol needs to be far more aggressive. Think of on a war footing. Ignore the naysayers who think that India is too large and too poor to test on a large scale. Any company that is able to produce kits should be given unlimited resources to scale up their production. Every single rupee we spend on this will have a massive return in health of people and the economy.

I hope all of your loved ones are safe and sound and stay that way.


I am in a US metropolitan area that has about the same number of cov infections as all of India. Even we do not have very aggressive testing right now. If you look at the percentage of people who are turning up positive in the tests in India, its still a very low single digit number. Around 2 - 3%. This number will likely drop as the number of tests are doubled/tripled etc.

Right now, the Indian approach seems to be focusing on contact tracing. If you came in contact with a person who is cov+ or if you are coming from a region that is known to have a cov outbreak, you are treated as if you were positive and are quarantined. Basically, this renders the question of testing moot. What different would you have done had this quarantined person tested negative? or positive? The Indian approach is actually more stringent than would be dictated by the 'more testing' protocol. And so far.. it appears to be working somewhat.

Indian approach is stricter and has much higher economic consequences!
More testing gives more confidence for the authorities to calibrate their responses. Countries which tested more are the countries that put least restrictions on their citizens but still managed to flatten the curve like Iceland and South Korea.

When do you think the lockdown can be lifted unless backed by mass testing figures? Every day under lockdown is costing India so much.
I find that Indian response is adequate in other aspects but testing is one area we are sorely behind. Hope things will improve on this front.

There is no alternative to mass testing.

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Postby pgbhat » 13 Apr 2020 14:33

COVID-19: What Does it Take to Run an ICU?
We only have 29,000 ICU beds in the country and quite frankly most are of dubious quality. There are multiple reasons for the above statement but the most important is that it costs an enormous amount of money to set one up.

In India a comprehensive ICU bed would cost 1 crore per bed and almost 1 million USD in the West. :eek:

The primary issue is the specific building design, infection free rooms and very expensive monitoring equipment with things like specialised beds, pumps for iv fluids, special lighting, air handling units etc. These beds need to then be serviced by technical support services such as TOP notch laboratory or diagnostics, radiology, blood bank and therapists.

The above scenario clearly indicates that we will never have enough ICU resources if the numbers begin to soar and community transmission becomes endemic. So what can save us now is the break the circuit of transmission. The country cannot stay in lock down forever but what can become ingrained is personal hygiene, dissuade aerosol transmission by using a barrier, isolating patients, mass antibody testing to identify people who have had the infection and have demonstrated an immune response and finally identification of hot spots to clamp down on further disease using all of the above.

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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 15:07

I think we need isolation beds, followed by ventilators beds and lastly ICU beds.

I don't have numbers but every one tested positive for covid needs an isolation bed to prevent them from spreading. Most people, ~80%, will recover without needing anything further.

20% of the covid positives will need additional support in terms of ventilator and probably 50-75 % will get well without any further intervention.

The remaining 5-10% of the covid positives will get into serious trouble and will need to get the full ICU treatment.

The % are off the top of my head but assuming them to be true ... and the distribution between ICU, ventilator and isolation to be 5%, 15% and 80%, we can back calculate ...

Assuming 50% ICU allocation for covid, 15K ICU beds will backstop 45K ventilator beds that can backstop 300k isolation beds i.e to say the current system can be scaled up to treat about 3.5 lakhs covid patients at a time.

Further, if everything is diverted to covid treatment, we can probably scale up to 7 lakh covid patients at a time BUT this is the absolute limit. This does not account for bottleneck in other variables like doctors, nurses, technical staff, other staff, consumables, protectives, medicine, etc.

Note, this is an outsiders linear scaling algorithm at work.
Note, as of today ..
https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1249331511788068864
Saurav Jha @SJha1618

The @MoHFW_INDIA says that 1,05,980 isolation beds located in 601 dedicated hospitals are currently available in India as opposed to the current requirement of only 1671.

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Postby saumitra_j » 13 Apr 2020 15:12

IndraD wrote:
ldev wrote:In your earlier post you had said an IL-6 blocker and plasma from a recovered patient. My doc friend has always maintained from the early days of the outbreak that the key is plasma.

yes grapevine on ITU society (ICS) is even Prince Charles recd plasma from day 1.

Sirs, here is an interesting ask from ICMR

The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) has sought letters of intent from institutions with necessary equipments and infrastructure to participate in a clinical trial to study safety and efficacy of therapeutic plasma exchange in COVID-19 patients, subsequent to necessary approvals and clearances.

The primary objective of the study is to assess the efficacy of TPE in improving the clinical status of COVID-19 patients and to evaluate the safety of treatment with anti SARS-CoV-2 plasma in patients with COVID-19.

The study will include hospitalised COVID-19 patients who are critically ill, fulfil the inclusion and exclusion criteria, and are admitted for care at COVID-19 management facilities in India.

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Postby pgbhat » 13 Apr 2020 15:51

The Dangerous History of Immunoprivilege
Immunity mattered. “Unacclimated” white people were considered unemployable. As the German immigrant Gustav Dresel lamented in the 1830s, “I looked around in vain for a position as bookkeeper,” but “to engage a young man who was not acclimated would be a bad speculation.” Life insurers rejected unacclimated applicants outright or else charged a hefty “climate premium.” If you were white, immunity-status impacted where you lived, how much you earned, your ability to get credit, and whom you were able to marry. It’s no wonder, then, that many new immigrants actively sought sickness: huddling together in cramped dwellings, or jumping into a bed where friends had just died — the antebellum forerunners to “chickenpox parties,” except much deadlier. :eek:
Yellow fever did not make the South into a slave society, but it widened the divide between rich and poor. High mortality, it turns out, was economically profitable for New Orleans’s most powerful citizens because yellow fever kept wage workers insecure, and so unable to bargain effectively. It’s no surprise, then, that city politicians proved unwilling to spend tax money on sanitation and quarantine efforts, and instead argued that the best solution to yellow fever was, paradoxically, more yellow fever. :roll: The burden was on the working classes to get acclimated, not on the rich and powerful to invest in safety net infrastructure.

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Postby milindc » 13 Apr 2020 16:16

pankajs wrote:^^
I had written a few more line with the common water/sanitation facility in mind but deleted them to leave the initial post uncluttered. Here it goes.

Large slums can be divided into blocks around shared water/sanitation facilities, with a clear entry/exit path, at as granular level as possible and each block be sealed off from the rest. That way the population of each block can be kept away from the rest and limit spread to within the block in the worst case scenario.

On top of that social distancing can be used to let people of a block use shared water / sanitation facilities under a strict watch. While far from ideal, this too could be effective in limiting the spread within the block.

Rest of the strategy of door delivery of essentials remain the same. In 15 days, the symptomatic cases would already have been removed, rest gets tested for latent covid and block with zero positive could be allowed back into the mainstream. The remaining would continue to be sealed for another 14/15 days just to be safe.

Will need the state to show some will.


Seems like the most practical solution is to test as many as possible in slums and then isolate the positive cases. The challenge will be how to test massive population in slums. If they can figure out how to merge around 32 swabs into 1 test then it is feasible at low cost.
Two swabs per person taken, and then if the 32 batch comes positive, test every swab in that batch.

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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 16:21

^^
Get one Abbott 5 minutes test machine with adequate supplies, divide Dharavi into block and go block by block.

There are 43 hotspots in Delhi now that have been sealed
https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1249348302476169216
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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 16:31

Supplies form China ...

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1249354801147564032
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

Air bridge between India & China established on 4th April has seen 5 Air India flights carrying 85 tons of cargo -- pharmaceuticals, medical equipment & #Covid-19 relief materia
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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 17:34

India covid trend

https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/ ... 9498480640
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#DailyUpdate #COVID2019
India is flattening the curve. The growth rate has shown a consistent decline - from April 6th onwards - approximately 2 weeks after the #Lockdown . Active cases are doubling every 7 days.

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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 17:36

Cured cases ...

https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1249648526805487618
Sidhant Sibal @sidhant

857 people have been discharged in India, say Health Officials
#COVID2019
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Postby pankajs » 13 Apr 2020 17:38

https://twitter.com/orfonline/status/12 ... 0515471360
ORF @orfonline

#India now has 9,240 confirmed #Covid_19 cases out of which 1096 have now recovered.

#CoronaTracker

Visit: https://orfonline.org/covid19-tracke

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Postby Mollick.R » 13 Apr 2020 18:15

SDREs are copying the Chinis, Hain jee ???

https://twitter.com/meenakshisharan/status/1249291421103706112

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Postby Mollick.R » 13 Apr 2020 18:17

Mamata govt not sending enough samples for Covid-19 testing, says central lab director

Speaking to India Today TV, Dr Dutta said the flow of samples at the ICMR-NICED lab has not been “equal from the very beginning”.

West Bengal government is not sending enough samples for Covid-19 testing, claims ICMR’s nodal testing facility in Kolkata, the National Institute of Cholera and Enteric Diseases (NICED).
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“Initially we were the only centre which was doing the testing and at that time we would receive 90-100 samples in a day. Now there are other centres, so the number of samples being sent to NICED is less,” Dutta added.

Responding to Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee’s complaints about lack of testing kits in West Bengal, Dutta said ICMR has dispatched 42,500 kits to NICED so far.


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https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/central-lab-says-mamata-govt-not-sending-enough-samples-for-covid-19-tests-as-bengal-reports-fewer-cases-1666467-2020-04-13

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby Mollick.R » 13 Apr 2020 18:28

Mollick.R wrote:SDREs are copying the Chinis, Hain jee ???

https://twitter.com/meenakshisharan/status/1249291421103706112



No idea what chemicals they are using. :roll:
Looks similar to anti mosquito fogging done by local municipalities.

This is sample photo of similar vehicle and arrangements I found from Internet, this photo is of DTT insecticide are being sprayed on the Kumbh Mela festival ground, Prayagraj (2013). Copyright to respective site / photo owner.


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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby madhu » 13 Apr 2020 18:35

Mollick.R wrote:No idea what chemicals they are using. :roll:
Looks similar to anti mosquito fogging done by local municipalities.

in my area (Mysore, Karnataka) Mysore Mahanagara Palike has thrown bleaching power on road. this was done at every house entry. i think it is the same.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby manju » 13 Apr 2020 19:14

madhu wrote:
Mollick.R wrote:No idea what chemicals they are using. :roll:
Looks similar to anti mosquito fogging done by local municipalities.

in my area (Mysore, Karnataka) Mysore Mahanagara Palike has thrown bleaching power on road. this was done at every house entry. i think it is the same.


bleaching powder thrown around is useless... (from what I know about use of bleach). I am open to be corrected

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby nam » 13 Apr 2020 20:07

Just came across some UK numbers. 20K out of 84K positive cases are currently hospitalized!

That is is 25% hospitalization rate of positive cases!

Interesting that Italian hospitals in the North were overwhelmed even at less than these numbers. They were struggling at 4-5K hospitalization.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby pgbhat » 13 Apr 2020 20:16

nam wrote:Just came across some UK numbers. 20K out of 84K positive cases are currently hospitalized!

That is is 25% hospitalization rate of positive cases!

Interesting that Italian hospitals in the North were overwhelmed even at less than these numbers. They were struggling at 4-5K hospitalization.


Are they discounting undetected asymptomatic cases? If 50% of the cases are asymptomatic which are not being tested then you have 168K +ve cases. So hospitalization rate may be only 15%.
Anyways hospitalization rate has be contained to ensure that hospitalization capacity is not overwhelmed. This is where every country is on its own.
We cannot have the same hospitalization rate as that of UK/South Korea, because our hospitalization capacity is no match to theirs. This means our social distancing measures, tracking, testing and treating should be way better than theirs. Quantifying this must be a nightmare.


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