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Postby vijayk » 04 Jan 2021 05:53

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/ ... -us-is-not
Bioethicist: Why the UK is getting vaccine distribution right and the US is not


https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/statu ... 0500170758
Face The Nation @FaceTheNation
"We have 40 million vaccines that were delivered in December. 5 million were injected into arms. That's 35 million vaccines sitting on a shelf somewhere," @ScottGottliebMD tells @margbrennan amid concerns over vaccine roll out and federal supply

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Postby Mort Walker » 04 Jan 2021 08:12

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Overall US COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution and Administration
Total Doses Distributed
13,071,925
Total Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received)
4,225,756
CDC | Updated: Jan 02 2021 As of 9:00am ET

Federal Pharmacy Partnership for Long-Term Care Program (Subset of Overall Numbers)
Doses Distributed for Use in Long-Term Care Facilities
2,217,025
Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received) in Long-Term Care Facilities
282,740
CDC | Updated: Jan 02 2021 As of 9:00am ET

Total doses distributed: 15,288,950 This is not 40 million.
Total people vaccinated (1st dose): 4,508,496. This is < 5 million.

Neither the federal government or states did any dry run like in India. Everyone in the US knew the vaccine was coming very soon back in Sep/Oct 2020.

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Postby vera_k » 04 Jan 2021 10:12

If 15,288,950 were distributed, it means an equal amount have been held back for the second dose. @ScottGottliebMD is on Pfizer's board, so at this point I'd take his word over some government agency when it comes to complaints about slow vaccine delivery.

I wonder if India can snag some supply from Pfizer since the USA looks constrained on delivery.

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Postby Amber G. » 04 Jan 2021 11:28

About Covaix as I posted before from Dr Harsh Vardhan's Tweet:
COVAXIN approval is ‘Monitored Approval’ with strict follow-up & rolling review

This approval ensures India has an additional vaccine shield in its arsenal esp against potential mutant strains in a dynamic pandemic situation -
A strategic decision for our vaccine security:
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Postby saip » 04 Jan 2021 11:59

vera_k wrote:If 15,288,950 were distributed, it means an equal amount have been held back for the second dose. @ScottGottliebMD is on Pfizer's board, so at this point I'd take his word over some government agency when it comes to complaints about slow vaccine delivery.

I wonder if India can snag some supply from Pfizer since the USA looks constrained on delivery.

These are the numbers
Distributed: 13,071,925
Total Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received)
4,225,756
The second set of numbers in Mort's post is included in these numbers (Federal Pharmacy Partnership for Long-Term Care Program (Subset of Overall Numbers))

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Postby Amber G. » 04 Jan 2021 12:47

I looked at what I posted here couple of months ago - charts using "super model" and the current "active" cases in India.

(See my previous post: orange predicted by model - Blue actual till October.
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Current situation: ()
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Not a bad model at all!

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Postby Tanaji » 04 Jan 2021 17:12

More articles about Covaxin

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... aign=cppst

The issue as per them is:
DCGI approval is identical for both vaccines (which may or may not be an issue )
Bharat Biotech has not released any efficacy data to any journal
Covaxin is not indigenous as the adjuvant is imported (where have we have seen this type of nitpicking before :cry: )

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Postby vijayk » 04 Jan 2021 21:37

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/covaxi ... 087250.cms

"The phase 3 data has been completed for 22,500 patients and the safety was fully established. That has been submitted and the full trial of 25,800 persons will be completed in a week's time," Bhargava said, underlining that by the time the vaccination programme is launched, the Phase 3 trial for Covaxin will be concluded and final set of data will also be available.
Health minister Harsh Vardhan also strongly backed the Covaxin shot, saying "For those spreading rumours let it be known that EUA for Covaxin is differently conditional - in clinical trial mode" He explained this means its use will be in "clinical trial mode" where all recipients are monitored as if they are in trial. "This approval ensures India has an additional vaccine shield in its arsenal especially against potential mutant strains... A strategic decision for our vaccine security," he said. AIIMS director Dr Randeep Guleria told ANI that the shot "can also be used as a backup when we're not sure how efficacious the Serum Institute vaccine is going to be."


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Postby prasannasimha » 04 Jan 2021 21:39

This nitpicking is nonsense each of the companies will get 400-500 million doses once we cover enough of India they will be allowed to export. Thing is we have to use what we get and all this efficiency thing is bakwas. Epidemiological use of a vaccine is different from individual protection Something people do not understand.

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Postby Tanaji » 04 Jan 2021 21:55

BBC doing it’s best to put oil in the fire

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-55526123

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Postby vera_k » 04 Jan 2021 22:22

I have to admit being puzzled about why Covaxin was approved before efficacy data from the phase 3 trial is available. Further, if vaccines could be approved prior to conclusion of Phase 3 trials, why wasn't the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine approved for use months ago?

It seems an opportunity was lost to get vaccinations rolling along last year, perhaps due to the Democrat/Republican slugfest about authorizing vaccines in the USA.

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Postby kit » 04 Jan 2021 22:58

Tanaji wrote:BBC doing it’s best to put oil in the fire

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-55526123


thats the cue for the sashi to quote :mrgreen:

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Postby suryag » 04 Jan 2021 23:29

I dont know much about the vaccine science, however, want to indulge in whatabouttery here, did the turds who are talking now about covaxin question sinovac or the sputnik-5 vac ?whats wrong with us Indians running every effort down. Be constructive, positive, ask for more data dont be sceptical

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Postby Lisa » 04 Jan 2021 23:34

^^ Sirs why look too far. Compare these two articles, one completely sceptical on India and its intent and the other for a UK audience recommending assistance for the very same therapy!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-55257669

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-e ... t-54667486

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Postby vijayk » 05 Jan 2021 00:11

https://www.wsj.com/articles/india-auth ... lewebshare
India Authorizes Covid-19 Vaccines and Readies Inoculation Campaign
Officials plan to vaccinate 300 million in the coming months to protect citizens and economy from the pandemic

India’s emergency authorization of two Covid-19 vaccines over the weekend kicks off a massive and logistically daunting government inoculation campaign in the world’s second-most-populous nation, where the new coronavirus has killed more than 150,000 and ravaged the economy.

The goal is to vaccinate more than 300 million of the country’s 1.3 billion people by the middle of the year, using an army of doctors, nurses, police officers, soldiers and others to deliver and administer doses across the country, from remote Himalayan villages to megacities like Mumbai.

“It will be the largest vaccination program in the world,” said Giridhara R. Babu, an epidemiologist at the Indian Institute of Public Health in Bangalore. “India has the skills and facilities to make it happen.”

On Saturday, India’s drug regulators gave the green light for emergency use of a vaccine made by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca PLC that is already being mass produced and stockpiled in the country.

They also authorized a vaccine produced by Indian manufacturer Bharat Biotech, saying the Hyderabad-based company’s vaccine, which is in late-stage clinical trials, was safe and generated a robust immune response in people who received it.


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This is their main worry ... Mudi got an opportunity and he will seize it with both hands, legs unlike retarded dumbo racists/wokes and clueless AHs who can't execute anything.

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Postby DavidD » 05 Jan 2021 00:48

suryag wrote:I dont know much about the vaccine science, however, want to indulge in whatabouttery here, did the turds who are talking now about covaxin question sinovac or the sputnik-5 vac ?whats wrong with us Indians running every effort down. Be constructive, positive, ask for more data dont be sceptical


Idk about BBC specifically but the Sputnik-5 approval sure caught a lot of flak here in the US for its approval before Phase 3 was done. The Chinese vaccine was not not given emergency approval for general use, it was given general approval for emergency use (mostly for healthcare workers and military personnel). Big difference there as the target is the general population vs high risk/essential personnel. The latter is common practice with military personnel around the world while the former is unheard of with a vaccine prior to COVID.

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Postby Raja » 05 Jan 2021 01:11

I am not sure why some people are screaming that Covaxin is 100%, 110%, 200% safe. No one is questioning if it is safe or not. Drinking a glass of water is also safe, but it is not going to prevent infection from Covid-19. Despite having many cases and homegrown vaccine candidates, we have not been able to come running out of the gate with these trials. Why not?

1) Was there enough effort made to facilitate and expedite phase 3 trials in India? We certainly had more than enough cases to get volunteers but we seem to be still struggling with even recruiting people for the trials.
2) If not then was it due to lack of expertise in running large trials in a short time period or something else?
3) Why did we not try to run trials in other countries like China has done?

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Postby vimal » 05 Jan 2021 01:48

Here we go:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-afri ... s-variant/

COVID vaccines "might not" work as well on South African strain, scientists warn

The new coronavirus variant identified in South Africa poses even more of a risk than the strain discovered several weeks ago in England, Britain's top health official warned on Monday. His alarm came as scientists warned that the new strain sweeping through South African coastal communities could be resistant to the COVID-19 vaccines approved or awaiting approval in the U.S. and Europe.

"I'm incredibly worried about the South African variant," Health Secretary Matt Hancock told BBC Radio. "This is a very, very significant problem... it's even more of a problem than the U.K. new variant."

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Postby DavidD » 05 Jan 2021 02:04

Raja wrote:I am not sure why some people are screaming that Covaxin is 100%, 110%, 200% safe. No one is questioning if it is safe or not. Drinking a glass of water is also safe, but it is not going to prevent infection from Covid-19. Despite having many cases and homegrown vaccine candidates, we have not been able to come running out of the gate with these trials. Why not?

1) Was there enough effort made to facilitate and expedite phase 3 trials in India? We certainly had more than enough cases to get volunteers but we seem to be still struggling with even recruiting people for the trials.
2) If not then was it due to lack of expertise in running large trials in a short time period or something else?
3) Why did we not try to run trials in other countries like China has done?


Number of cases isn't enough, you need a relatively high case per capita to speed through Phase 3, and India has a fairly low case per capita. The Chinese vaccines actually started trials in China first, but before Phase 3 even started there were basically no cases in China anymore. My guess is that when phase 3 started in India, there were still many cases and people didn't expect that there wouldn't be a second wave of infections.

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Postby nam » 05 Jan 2021 03:32

You cannot expedite Phase 3 trials. They will complete on it's own time. But people who deal with vaccine in and out are capable to understand when a vaccine is ready for conditional release. The health minister has clearly started, Covaxin is approved for clinical release and the doctor/nurse who will give the vaccine understands whom they can vaccinate.

No health professional is going to give a regular member of the public a non-approved vaccine. Neither GoI nor your neighbor is going around giving jabs.

The new vaccination experts which have sprouted doesn't understand the technical aspects, yet give out gyan.

Bharat Biotech is a inactive Covid virus vaccine, the traditional way of making vaccine. Nothing fancy. More than 70K people have died in UK within 28 days of symptoms.

Covaxin Ph3 trails started in Nov. If something was wrong, they would know have known within 21-28 days.

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Postby vijayk » 05 Jan 2021 05:17

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2021-01-04

Co-WIN app likely to be used for COVID-19 India vaccine rollout, what is it and how to register
The Union health ministry has launched a CO-Win app to record the vaccine data.

The health ministry of India has developed an app to monitor real-time COVID vaccine delivery. The app will also record the data of the users and enabled them to get themselves registered for vaccination. Health Secretary Rajesh Bhushan announced the Co-WIN app during a press conference.

"Co-WIN digital platform includes a free downloadable mobile application which can help record vaccine data. One can register themselves on it if they want the vaccine. There are five modules in Co-WIN app - administrator module, registration module, vaccination module, beneficiary acknowledgment module and report module,” Health Secretary Rajesh Bhushan was quoted by PTI as saying.


As of now, the Co-Win app is not available on either Google Play Store and Apple’s App Store. So if you come across any such app, do not download it as it has not been made available by the authorized sources. The application is currently being developed and it is at its pre-product stage. So far, it has received data from health officials, who will get the vaccine initially. More than lakh health officials have registered for the vaccine already.

The registration process is not open to common people. Only the health officials and frontline workers have registered for the vaccine. The app will have four modules including the user administrator module, beneficiary registration, vaccination and beneficiary acknowledgment, and status updation.

Once the registration process goes live, people will need to upload an identity card to register. The users can upload Aadhar Card, Driving License, PAN Card, and others.


I am telling you ... this is set for a blockbuster event.

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Postby dhyana » 05 Jan 2021 10:07

As Nam mentioned, there is no 'expediting' of the Phase 3 trials themselves. There can be 'expediting' of parsing the data, i.e., interim data analysis (as published in the Pfizer/Moderna/AstraZeneca trials, and purportedly done in the Russian/Chinese vaccine trials). A few articles have mentioned a magic number of 130 infections as a trigger for this interim analysis of Covaxin's Phase 3 study. That's when they would unblind the data to see initial efficacy. Only then, one can make comparisons. And if up to the mark, give proper/full emergency authorization.

AIIMS physician scientists and Dr. Harsh Vardhan have been expanding upon SEC/DCGI's authorization statements (which had initially spelled out that it was to be used in clinical trial mode only). However, I think those statements should have been more detailed to begin with, instead of having this tamasha. Poor communications hinder at a time when the public demands 'more transparency'- else the media and vested interests conjure up their own stories. A la Balakot.

If indeed this is 'clinical trial mode'- then there is no comparison with the millions of doses being authorized in China prior to Phase 3 trial completion- despite any attempts to conflate the two situations. This is like repeatedly saying that China itself informed the WHO of outbreak back in January- an assertion conclusively disproven by WHO's own belated acknowledgment in July that China merely responded to WHO's inquiry to confirm 'viral pneumonia' reports picked up by its field office in China and the ProMed epidemiology surveillance network... with China taking 2 days to respond in the affirmative. But, publicity and (dis)information dissemination frames the narrative.

Nevertheless, the proof is in the pudding. If India can indeed vaccinate approx. 1.5 million people daily- which they have to average, to meet their own summer deadline- using fully authorized vaccines (including Covaxin upon hopefully good interim efficacy results), then she will have proven her competence in handling this phase of the pandemic. No one is one track to deliver that many shots, anywhere.

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Postby Amber G. » 05 Jan 2021 12:09

Rise of Covid among UK children is quite alarming. We know kids transmit, even if usually less susceptible (unsure yet for new South Africa variants - But we know for B117 they are more ). We know kids transmit often more than adults . The higher R means we have little to no “room to give" and since the B117 is here in US we may see high rates in a few weeks. (In fact the data which I posted above - and I will post a zoomed in next message) for us in US things can get scary. Please stay safe.
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Postby Tanaji » 05 Jan 2021 17:55

Something is strange:

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... s-7133742/

So Poonawala first called anything apart from Pfizer, Moderna and AZ vaccines “like water” and now has backtracked on the Covaxin. Probably GoI cracked the whip.

In another interview Dr. Ella mentioned his trials were done without paracetamol while the AZ one was. Of course, that has no bearing on efficacy...

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Postby vijayk » 05 Jan 2021 20:31

Tanaji wrote:Something is strange:

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... s-7133742/

So Poonawala first called anything apart from Pfizer, Moderna and AZ vaccines “like water” and now has backtracked on the Covaxin. Probably GoI cracked the whip.

In another interview Dr. Ella mentioned his trials were done without paracetamol while the AZ one was. Of course, that has no bearing on efficacy...


Poonawala is doing some drama. He even said some nasty things earlier implying if GOvt. keeps 2-3 Billion $$ aside for his vaccine, then we will talk. I think too much od publicity got to his head like any other Indian. We see couple of news articles in phore media and we thing we descended from heaven.

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Postby nvishal » 05 Jan 2021 22:13

As can be imagined, the developed countries have ignored the middle and lower income states. They cannot make the vaccines affordable for these states. As expected, the job order is ending up at the doors of indian pharma firms. In the last 72 hours, Kazakhstan, Brazil and Myanmar have opened diplomatic channels to negotiate vaccine orders. Others who showed interest include Bangladesh, Myanmar, Qatar, Bhutan, Switzerland, Bahrain, Austria and South Korea.

Mind you, due to the situation and the income class of these states, the firms will be forced to keep margins razor thin.

Vaccine distribution in India is putting new pressure on air cargo rates and capacity.

With the largest vaccine manufacturing capacity in the world, the country is expected to play a major role in the production and distribution of Covid-19 vaccines, both at home and abroad.

So far, India has approved the UK-developed Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, while a second, from Indian firm Bharat Biotech, could also get the goahead.

Yesterday, pharma-hub Hyderabad Airport announced a partnership with Dubai to create a “global vaccine corridor”.

The corridor will see the two airports collaborate on “an integrated solution for temperature tracking and end-to-end visibility to streamline the journey of Covid-19 vaccines from manufacturers to end-customers”.

Pradeep Panicker, CEO of GMR Hyderabad International, said the airport was upgrading its handling capacity for vaccine shipments requiring cold to ultra-cold temperature ranges and would become “India’s largest air cargo centre both for international and domestic distribution of the vaccines”.

Cargo carrier SpiceXpress is getting in on the vaccine action at Hyderabad, too. Last month, the carrier signed an MOU with ground handler GMR Hyderabad Air Cargo, giving the airline priority space for its vaccine shipments. The carrier will provide first-mile pick-up and last-mile delivery across India and internationally, and keep dedicated freighters, including widebody aircraft, at Hyderabad.

SpiceXpress, the cargo arm of low-cost carrier SpiceJet, saw rapid growth last year after the global grounding of passenger fleets and a sudden switch in focus to airfreight. It has operated 11,800 cargo flights since March, carrying 93,500 tons.

However, India’s air cargo industry as a whole is estimated to have lost around 20% of volumes compared with 2019. And, with international passenger flights still restricted and vaccine rollout now taking priority, rates and capacity are under pressure again.

“Demand for domestic air cargo space is on the increase,” said Sundreysh Sarup, MD of Logistics Plus India. “With two key freighter operators, Blue Dart Aviation (DHL) and SpiceJet, both dedicating space to vaccine deliveries, its surely going to reach a situation of almost negligible available capacity for general air cargo movements, which will lead to increased freight rates.”

Furthermore, he told The Loadstar, India has limited belly capacity available, with narrow-bodied B737 and A320 aircraft flown by most domestic airlines.

“We also anticipate additional transit times, with cargo queuing up to be loaded on flights,” Mr Sarup added. “Keeping all this in mind, we’re already looking at alternate modes, such as express trucking and expedited rail freight.”

Indeed, alternative shipping options are also being eyed for India’s domestic vaccine distribution. For example, Kerala-based Sitics Logistics and TechEagle have teamed up to provide vaccine delivery to remote areas via drones.

With 'global vaccine corridor' a priority, air cargo in India is under new pressure.
https://theloadstar.com/with-global-vac ... -pressure/

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Postby nam » 06 Jan 2021 00:15

Should not be a major problem. For India, we have IAF for emergency cargo haul. Our winter stocking on the borders are done anyways.

For international, the countries will send in their transport fleet, if regular carrier are not available.

American Pharma went with mRNA , $20 and -80 degree storage. Fundamentally made US Gov pay for exotic tech. While companies like Bharat Biotech went with traditional inactive virus, allowing for cheap doses. Slowly it will come out that, what was really needed was a flu jab.

Most of the world will go with OxAZ, Indian and in some Belting & Roading bakras be forced to use authentic Chini maal..right from where it started.

This means our Pharma will be able to cover any losses in Indian market with global sales.

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Postby vijayk » 06 Jan 2021 00:21

can't wait to see how we do it and how we deliver it for the world. Whole Indian prestige is on the line. We need to save the world. Great challenge and great opportunity


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Postby Varuna » 06 Jan 2021 09:22

vijayk wrote:can't wait to see how we do it and how we deliver it for the world. Whole Indian prestige is on the line. We need to save the world. Great challenge and great opportunity


I'm sure we will do great. However, let's not make it an issue of prestige or H&D. Irrespective of how India handles this, be prepared for a lot of negative reports from the likes of BBC

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Postby Rahul M » 06 Jan 2021 09:30

Amber G. wrote:I looked at what I posted here couple of months ago - charts using "super model" and the current "active" cases in India.

(See my previous post: orange predicted by model - Blue actual till October.
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Current situation: ()
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Not a bad model at all!

Thanks, very heartening to see.

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Postby Karan M » 06 Jan 2021 11:56

Tanaji wrote:BBC doing it’s best to put oil in the fire

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-55526123


For all practical purposes the Beeb and its extremely supercilious, supremacist Brit staff and Indian flunkeys are anti BJP/ Hindu phobic for the most part (see their staffs pvt comments on Indian issues) so it's completely unsurprising they'd pick up an INC chamcha and a "scientist" who lobbied for Modi to be removed as valid critics without even examining their convict of interest.

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Postby nvishal » 06 Jan 2021 13:23

vijayk wrote:Image

Do not be fooled by such hollow glories

The west cannot help most of the nations in the world because of the unfair fiat(dollar) hegemony. Yet they want the world to recognize them as leaders. It is their job to provide vaccines to the world. But they have turned a blind eye and have forced the job over to India. Essentially, the entire COVAX job has been dropped over india.

It's a scam

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Postby Amber G. » 06 Jan 2021 21:54

There is an article in Science - looks pretty solid research and data - Immunity found to be fairly long lasting (quite encouraging to see this)
Immunological memory to SARS-CoV-2 assessed for up to 8 months after infection
...... in 254 samples from 188 COVID-19 cases, including 43 samples at ≥ 6 months post-infection. IgG to the Spike protein was relatively stable over 6+ months. Spike-specific memory B cells were more abundant at 6 months than at 1 month post symptom onset. SARS-CoV-2-specific CD4+ T cells and CD8+ T cells declined with a half-life of 3-5 months. By studying antibody, memory B cell, CD4+ T cell, and CD8+ T cell memory to SARS-CoV-2 in an integrated manner, we observed that each component of SARS-CoV-2 immune memory exhibited distinct kinetics...

(Yes, in short I think, this in all likelihood will apply to vaccines induced immunity and though no one can be sure but ..If they are reinfected, their immune system would keep virus levels low enough that they wouldn’t spread it to others)
I saw an article in NY Times too, mostly with the same tone.

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Postby Mort Walker » 06 Jan 2021 23:18

Better trust scientific journals over NYT or WaPo who are purveyors of fake news.

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Postby vimal » 07 Jan 2021 07:53

I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist but these sudden accolades seem a bit out of place for the deep state media machine. Or as other posters have posited that this is just to dump the responsibility on India while China and west can continue with their old ways.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-vac ... 1609930891


India’s Vaccine Colossus Is a Model for the World to Follow
Serum Institute to manufacture vaccines not just for the world’s second-most populous country, but likely many others too


India has approved the use of two Covid-19 vaccines, highlighting its enormous vaccine production capacity. Most of the rich world may have something worth learning.

The Serum Institute of India is the world’s largest vaccine maker, founded more than 50 years ago by now billions of Cyrus Punewara. If exports are approved by the end of the year, it is possible that not only almost all vaccines given in India, but many vaccines will be available elsewhere in the world.

The Fitch Solutions survey provides an overview of the three groups of Asian economies this year. Most people in priority groups, such as health care workers and the elderly, can be vaccinated by June, vaccinated by September, and more time consuming. .. India is the lowest-income country in the first economic group, including Hong Kong, China, Singapore and Malaysia. Wealer South Korea and Thailand will take longer.

The Serum Institute’s work requires a reliable, high-volume domestic supply of vials in which vaccines are sealed and transported, assured by companies such as Schott Kaisha and Pilamar Glass. The presence of the world’s largest vaccine manufacturer helps to lay the foundation for a domestic network of suppliers.

But when it comes to manufacturing important items that may face a massive surge in demand, and when national priorities come to the fore, countries can take a break from Indian books. Doing so is impractical for all small and medium-sized countries, but production can be organized at the level of regional blocks such as the Association of Southeast Asian Nations. The pandemic has hit Latin America more than many other parts of the world, but due to limited vaccine production, most countries have been waiting in front of them for a long time.

Such a company does not have to be a state-owned enterprise. As mentioned earlier, the Serum Institute works closely with the government, but was founded as a private company and is still a private company. Establishing similar capabilities can be achieved through cooperation on healthcare regulation and appropriate financial incentives to create large regional markets. This principle applies explicitly to personal protective equipment as well as vaccines.

Many much wealthier countries are plagued by a shortage of these important components, as they are usually imported, and the demand is so high that supply is currently uncertain. Given the very slow pace of European vaccine deployment, the Indian program has the potential to become a model for the world.

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Postby disha » 07 Jan 2021 10:36

nvishal wrote:As can be imagined, the developed countries have ignored the middle and lower income states... ... In the last 72 hours, Kazakhstan, Brazil and Myanmar have opened diplomatic channels to negotiate vaccine orders. Others who showed interest include Bangladesh, Myanmar, Qatar, Bhutan, Switzerland, Bahrain, Austria and South Korea.

Mind you, due to the situation and the income class of these states, the firms will be forced to keep margins razor thin.


The states in bold can easily fund for the poorer states. From an Indian perspective, even if it is given at razor thin margin, say 10 Rs. or @14 cents that still is 100s of crores in margin.

Point is not about margins. Point is about leadership. Think of it as a strategic option where India saves the world. This will put paid to any Cheeni exceptionalism and hopefully starts the era of Indian exceptionalism.

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Postby darshan » 07 Jan 2021 11:37

Not surprisingly no one out there's calling out chinese to foot the bill for vaccination and hand over money to India for cleaning up chinese mess and sabotages.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Postby vimal » 07 Jan 2021 11:48

disha wrote:
nvishal wrote:As can be imagined, the developed countries have ignored the middle and lower income states... ... In the last 72 hours, Kazakhstan, Brazil and Myanmar have opened diplomatic channels to negotiate vaccine orders. Others who showed interest include Bangladesh, Myanmar, Qatar, Bhutan, Switzerland, Bahrain, Austria and South Korea.

Mind you, due to the situation and the income class of these states, the firms will be forced to keep margins razor thin.


The states in bold can easily fund for the poorer states. From an Indian perspective, even if it is given at razor thin margin, say 10 Rs. or @14 cents that still is 100s of crores in margin.

Point is not about margins. Point is about leadership. Think of it as a strategic option where India saves the world. This will put paid to any Cheeni exceptionalism and hopefully starts the era of Indian exceptionalism.


No such strategic thinking exists in India. All Gandhi babas bhakts. Remember Modi sent supplies to Iran after their supreme leader pointed finger at Kashmir. This would be an excellent time to ask for permanent UN Security Council seat if anyone thinks about it.


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