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It seems a 3rd wave consisting of the Delta variant is beginning to hit the US with over 125K new infections per day and deaths over 650/day as the 7-day running average. Schools and colleges are opening up all across the US, and some big population states banning mask mandates.
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Amber G. wrote:Just heard White House update:
- Clarity on booster shots - For mRNA vaccines = all are advised to get booster shot after 8 months (instead of just giving an option). Process is straight forward and vaccines are free and will be available with minimum red tape.

-There are reports from CDC - Per Vivek Murthy - J&J Booster shots are coming - details in **coming weeks **

For India - Credible report - Booster shots for Covidshield is coming too. (Timing is again 8 months).
Thanks for providing these updates. Any info about Covaxin 3rd booster shot? Also for Covishield, is it 8 months after 1st dose or 2nd one?
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Please post a link to the corresponding press release or a credible article when quoting anything claimed as credible
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Very quietly a very heartbreaking Covid situation is unfolding in another country, that is - Vietnam.

While the rest of the world struggled with Covid from January 2020 to March 2021 with millions of infected and deaths, Vietnam showed a remarkable resilience. From January 2020 to March 2021, Vietnam recorded barely 35 deaths and a few hundred infected..... But then from April 2021 the situation started changing with the Delta variant. One possible reason is that the govt there got a bit complacent, and its isolation system worked remarkably well in identifying the infected persons and contact tracing. But now, its a different story.

LatelyVietnam is experiencing about 9000 daily new cases. With a population of 1/14 of Bharat, it is equivalent to 126,000 infected in Bharat.
Daily death is about 275 (equivalent to close to 4000 deaths per day in India). The country is completely clueless how to deal with the situation, and the healthcare system in southern part of the country has completely broken down. The southern 19 provinces, including Ho Chi Minh City (HCMC), has been under lockdown for almost two months now. The surrounding provinces of HCMC, especially Binh Duong province, Long An province, etc, are home to thousands of manufacturing units of MNCs which have relocated recently from China to Vietnam. That manufacturing supply chain is in bad shape due to this latest outbreak.

People of Vietnam are deeply skeptical about the Chinese offer of Sinopham vax, and they think that Chinese hand is behind the latest outbreak to disrupt the supply chain of Nike, Samsung and other MNCs.

Thousands of industrial workers are now out of work. They are trying to sneak out of the isolation zones, and want to return to countryside since they are out of resources and not much to do. At the same time, the local govts are trying to stop their movement by imposing heavy fines which can be as high as USD150 (and compare this with the average salary of USD250 of the manufacturing workers).

The voluntary organizations and other NGOs are trying to feed and shelter the poorer people in and around HCMC, but now running out of steam. Normally reticent Vietnamese population, which is supportive of their local, provincial and national govts, is now suspecting the official Covid figures. They suspect that actual casualties are four times of what is being reported.

The situation is terrible in this second home of mine.

Just now a close contact has forwarded me a picture taken secretly at a govt healthcare facility where piles of dead bodies in clear plastic bags have been placed in front of prayer alter before taken out for the last rites. (In spite of being a communist country Vietnam is a deeply deeply religious society, and personalities like Uncle Ho or General Vo Nguyen Giap never fiddled with that. Every household and hospital /business / bank / office has a "puja place" or God's / prayer alter adorned with ancestor's pictures and daily offerings of water, juice or fruits are made with candles and incense sticks to seek their blessings every step of life.) The western press, which gleefully showed funeral pyres of Covid dead-bodies in Bharat, would never show the pics of piled up dead-bodies in Vietnam.
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I just received this email from my health care provider:
Sutter Health logo
Additional Doses for Immunocompromised Patients
The FDA has amended the Emergency Use Authorizations for Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA vaccines to allow for a third dose to increase the immune response in some immunocompromised patients.
The CDC is recommending people receive a third dose if they are:
moderately to severely immunocompromised and
received their second dose of Pfizer or Moderna more than 28 days ago.
Studies indicate that this patient population may benefit from an additional dose to ensure adequate protection against COVID-19. Right now, this additional dose only applies to those moderately to severely immunocompromised patients who received the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. The FDA and CDC have not yet approved additional doses for anyone who received the Janssen/J&J vaccine. Further, CDC does not recommend additional doses or booster shots for any other population at this time. We're awaiting updates on possible boosters for the general public who received mRNA vaccines.
......
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I was advised to call and get an appointment. Clearly, the third dose will soon be available to all.
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DBT-BIRAC supported ZyCoV-D developed by Zydus Cadila Receives Emergency Use Authorization
Zydus Cadila has received approval for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) from the Drug Controller General of India (DCGI) for ZyCoV-D today i.e 20/08/2021, the world’s first and India’s indigenously developed DNA based vaccine for COVID-19 to be administered in humans including Children and adults 12 years and above. Developed in partnership with the Department of Biotechnology, Government of India under the ‘Mission COVID Suraksha’ and implemented by BIRAC, ZyCoV-D has been supported under COVID-19 Research Consortia through National Biopharma Mission for Preclinical studies, Phase I and Phase II Clinical Trials and under the Mission COVID Suraksha for Phase III Clinical Trial. This 3 dose vaccine which when injected produces the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and elicits an immune response, which plays a vital role in protection from disease as well as viral clearance. The plug-and-play technology on which the plasmid DNA platform is based can be easily adapted to deal with mutations in the virus, such as those already occurring.

Interim results from Phase-III Clinical Trials, in over 28,000 volunteers, showed primary efficacy of 66.6 per cent for symptomatic RT-PCR positive cases. This has been the largest vaccine trial so far in India for COVID-19. This vaccine had already exhibited robust immunogenicity and tolerability and safety profile in the adaptive Phase I/II clinical trials carried out earlier. Both the Phase I/II and Phase III clinical trials have been monitored by an independent Data Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB).

Vaccine Technology Centre (VTC), vaccine research centre of the Zydus group, Translational Health Science and Technology Institute (THSTI), an autonomous institute of the Department of Biotechnology (DBT and Interactive Research School for Health Affairs (IRSHA), Pune, GCLP Lab set up under the Department of Biotechnology - National Biopharma Mission (NBM) also played a vital role in this success story.
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^That really is a moon shot. World's first DNA vaccine. It is lungi dance moment for all.
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Not to mention, it is needle free and shelf stable at 30 degrees C.
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For once, we are not the fourth or fifth in something. But FIRST!! Well done, Zydus-Cadila!
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vera_k wrote:Not to mention, it is needle free and shelf stable at 30 degrees C.
But the above report says:
This 3 dose vaccine which when injected produces the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and elicits an immune response,
How is this administered?
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If you have watched Star Trek, it's like a hypospray. Pharmajet is the company behind that invention.
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vera_k wrote:If you have watched Star Trek, it's like a hypospray. Pharmajet is the company behind that invention.
I am aware of that. But WHO no longer recommends that because of fears of cross-contamination etc. A single person using it to administer (like diabetics administering insulin is OK) medicine to himself is OK.
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Congratulations to Zydus-Cadila for world first DNA vaccine to market.
Inovio in US is one of the pioneers in DNA vaccine tech. They were one of the first to prepare the vaccine construct for Coronavirus. However it is still held up in trial phase (later stage).
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saip wrote:
vera_k wrote:If you have watched Star Trek, it's like a hypospray. Pharmajet is the company behind that invention.
I am aware of that. But WHO no longer recommends that because of fears of cross-contamination etc. A single person using it to administer (like diabetics administering insulin is OK) medicine to himself is OK.
Boss, you can do better than just ask multiple questions and open ended concerns like this. Why not dig into the topic yourself and summarize what you find ?
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saip wrote:I am aware of that. But WHO no longer recommends that because of fears of cross-contamination etc. A single person using it to administer (like diabetics administering insulin is OK) medicine to himself is OK.
SaiP'ji, in lungi dance moment, please do enjoy the lungi dance show. Let's enjoy this moment. The future is indeed bleak. In the next 80 years, ~8 Billion individual humans will die. Apart from the horror of seeing millions die every year, Imagine if all of them have to be buried!

Anyway, your concern is very very valid. I would imagine though that the ICMR (we may be better Doctors than the Doctors, infact I am self certified neuro surgeon and looking for my first case) would have thought about it before putting 28000 people through it.

So please, in the lungi dance moment, let's not strip the lungis away. Yes the future is awful and there are many many many issues. For example, the Mathura temple and the Gyanvyapi Temple is still broken. We are not a $10T economy. Our last GSLV mk2 failed. And only 50 crore got vaccinated.
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Suraj wrote:DBT-BIRAC supported ZyCoV-D developed by Zydus Cadila Receives Emergency Use Authorization
Zydus Cadila has received approval for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) from the Drug Controller General of India (DCGI) for ZyCoV-D today i.e 20/08/2021, the world’s first and India’s indigenously developed DNA based vaccine for COVID-19 to be administered in humans including Children and adults 12 years and above. Developed in partnership with the Department of Biotechnology, Government of India under the ‘Mission COVID Suraksha’ and implemented by BIRAC, ZyCoV-D has been supported under COVID-19 Research Consortia through National Biopharma Mission for Preclinical studies, Phase I and Phase II Clinical Trials and under the Mission COVID Suraksha for Phase III Clinical Trial. This 3 dose vaccine which when injected produces the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and elicits an immune response, which plays a vital role in protection from disease as well as viral clearance. The plug-and-play technology on which the plasmid DNA platform is based can be easily adapted to deal with mutations in the virus, such as those already occurring.

Interim results from Phase-III Clinical Trials, in over 28,000 volunteers, showed primary efficacy of 66.6 per cent for symptomatic RT-PCR positive cases. This has been the largest vaccine trial so far in India for COVID-19. This vaccine had already exhibited robust immunogenicity and tolerability and safety profile in the adaptive Phase I/II clinical trials carried out earlier. Both the Phase I/II and Phase III clinical trials have been monitored by an independent Data Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB).

Vaccine Technology Centre (VTC), vaccine research centre of the Zydus group, Translational Health Science and Technology Institute (THSTI), an autonomous institute of the Department of Biotechnology (DBT and Interactive Research School for Health Affairs (IRSHA), Pune, GCLP Lab set up under the Department of Biotechnology - National Biopharma Mission (NBM) also played a vital role in this success story.
Also significant
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehin ... 6.ece/amp/
ZyCoV-MV likely to provide lasting immunity
Even as Zydus Cadila awaits regulatory nod for ZyCoV-D, its plasmid DNA vaccine against Covid , the company has been making further progress on the second vaccine candidate, which is set to provide lasting immunity against the virus. The company has successfully developed a measles virus containing Covid vector.

Zydus has developed a live, attenuated recombinant measles virus-vectored vaccine, ZyCoV-MV, which is believed to provide long-term immunity from the infection. The development is seen as significant in the backdrop of the limited-period immunity provided by most vaccines that are currently available.
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The spread of the delta variant is overwhelming the US hospitals.

and yet, the anti vaxxers seem to be prevailing.

sometimes, there's too much of freedom, especially for the unpad gawars



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They are mostly unvaccinated senior population.

Here is the map for SF Bay Area counties (this ones have higher vaccination rates): https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/coronavirus-map/

The cases are high, the deaths are low.

Here are graphs and charts from NY region: https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus-ny/

The 2nd wave was very horrible in NY. The 3rd wave (or the delta variant) numbers in hospitalizations and in ICU is very low. Compare it with first and second wave. The waves are clearly seen. At its peak, the deaths in the first wave were almost 7x the second wave and the deaths in second wave is almost 7x the deaths in the 3rd wave. Yes, at its peak, 729 died in a day in NY region and it is down to 19. Maybe 3rd wave has to peak yet. But the difference is stark. Just comparing the deaths peak to peak from first to third wave, it is 38x.

In nutshell, vaccines help.

And people also see it and feel it. If you go and tell people to lockdown in 3rd wave with such a stark difference, people are not going to listen. There is the pandemic fatigue and on top of it the government is snatching your livelihood.

Here is the total mortality chart by age from Jan 1, 2020 to Aug 4, 2021. For the 0-17 years, the total is 349 while the US total is 606389. The difference is stark. Some 1700x stark. The mortality rate below 50 is 30x lower than mortality rate above 50. It is the >65 years cohort which requires attention.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/119 ... by-age-us/

Similar statistics will be applicable to other regions/countries.
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disha wrote:^That really is a moon shot. World's first DNA vaccine. It is lungi dance moment for all.
A proud moment indeed!
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A paper that compares DNA and mRNA vaccines, with lot of information

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6631684/
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Meanwhile....
As of Monday at 8AM IST Aug 23rd.
Total Vaccination : 58,25,49,595 (7,95,543 in the last day)

60 crore should be hit by Thursday.
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Mort Walker wrote:Meanwhile....
As of Monday at 8AM IST Aug 23rd.
Total Vaccination : 58,25,49,595 (7,95,543 in the last day)

60 crore should be hit by Thursday.
Thanks, good pace and great news
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As of 7PM IST on Monday 23/8 Day 220:
58,82,21,623 total vaccinations, nearly 57 lakh vaccinations on Monday.

I take back what I said earlier, 60 crore will be hit by Wednesday evening.
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As of 8AM IST on Tuesday 24/8:
Total Vaccination : 58,89,97,805 (+63,85,298)
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^^As of 7PM according to PIB the number is about 595 Million ( 594,765,751) (Delta = 6,544,128)
Interesting statistics:
First 100 Million - 85 days
Second 100 Million - 45 days
Third 100 Million - 29 days
Fourth 100 Million - 24 days
Fifth 100 Million - 20 days!
Sixth 100 Million - 19 days.. (Will reach by August 25. 7PM)
(Can we get it to 10 days!)
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Wednesday should hit 600 million - just over 5m to get there now. Wednesday should also see August overtake July's 131 million monthly total, currently at just under 128m. From there it's six more days to see how much beyond 150 million they can get.

As of 24th August, here's the distribution of days:
4 Sundays with <2 million doses
5 days with 4-5 million doses.
6 days have 5-6 million doses
5 days with 6-7 million doses.
1 days with 7-8 million doses
3 days with >8 million doses.

There are no weekdays (Mon-Sat considered weekdays here) in August with <4m doses, at all. The majority of the weekdays (15 of 20) are over 5m. Of those 15, most are over 6m. The distribution between June and August progressively shows a trend closing in on at least irregular instances of 10m/day coming soon.
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More than 600 Million!
Count By PIB report (August 25, 2021 - 7PM: 602,425,271

So last 24 hours: 7.7 Million jabs (7,659,520)

Commutative: One jab: 465,704,647
Tow shots: 136,720,624


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The relevant way to count the number of days per 100m for India is to start from March 1. The reason is that is the day general vaccinations began. India did vaccinations differently from the US and Europe, which simultaneously began HCW/FLW/high risk groups all in mid/late Dec 2020.

India started with only HCW/FLW on Jan 16. It started on actual mass vaccination campaign with the first group of high risk gen pop on March 1. On that date, the count began at 14.3 million HCW/FLW doses done. Since then:

100m: 45 days
200m: 46 days (slowdown in May relative to April)
300m: 25 days
400m: 24 days
500m: 20 days
600m: 17 days if we get to 614m by Friday.

With production still scaling up, a 100 million doses every fortnight is quite realistic by September. August is already on track to outdo its 150m target and may breach 170m for the full month, after July beat its 120m target to hit 131m.
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Day 223: 61,10,43,573 vaccinations or over 611 million vaccinations in 223 days!
Day 222: 60,24,25,271 vaccinations

86,18,302 or over 8.6 million vaccinations on Thursday 26 Aug 2021.

Sunday 29 Aug is a holiday and Monday 30 Aug is Janmashtami. I expect these two days to slow down to < 1 million each day. Perhaps a pick up again on Tuesday 31 Aug. So, maybe maximum of 25 million more vaccinations the rest of this month bringing the cumulative to over 635 million.
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Suraj wrote:With production still scaling up, a 100 million doses every fortnight is quite realistic by September.
This should be of interest. 200 million doses a month from SII is a magnificent achievement.

20 crore Covishield doses to be supplied in September, SII informs Centre
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Naive pooch: Are he above figs counting doses or people (latter need 2 doses per person). Since it is shipments data, I'd say the former.

Still far away from 3/4th of popn (excluding <18 y.o) if people are the metric though substantial protection is recorded even for partially vaxed folks.

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It is doses administered. Not shipments or production. Sheer numbers matter here. No other country has produced a new vaccine and getting it administered to so many people in so short of a time. Some 223 days. India is competing with entire continents and is producing covid vaccines of all types.
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Good points about the coming holidays. Should certainly affect numbers early next week but we will still hit the 150m doses mark for August today if we manage another typical 6-7m dose day. The holidays will only affect how close to 175m we can get to by month end.

This week has already seen 31 million doses over 5 days thus averaging above 6m per day, and should be north of 40m by Saturday.

One more data point: total doses from June 1 to present:
USA: 68 million
North America (US/Canada/Mex): 185 million
European Union: 270 million
Entire Europe (EU plus non EU plus UK):361 million
India: 396 million (should cross 400m today)
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Record numbers vaccinated today so far - 93,09,516 :shock:

https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/
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SandeepA wrote:Record numbers vaccinated today so far - 93,09,516 :shock:

https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/
The number from PIB website (24 Hours - 7PM to 7PM) is: (620943580-611043573) = 9,900,007
~~ 9.9 Millions

(Almost as much as the previous record on July 8th which was 10.9 Millions (per Johns Hopkins University data).

More important: India has reached 50% of all adults with at least one shot. About 15% both shots. The target should be *at least* 75% both shots in coming months.

Also for some states, these numbers are very good. For many these numbers are already 70+% .. For Sikkim, Bhutan etc the numbers have reached or reaching 90+% (for *both* shots). About 80% of health workers and FLW's have both shots (about 99% with at least 1 shot).

Plugging these numbers - and looking at the data - The phase is very stable for more than a month so confidence in prediction is very high.. apart from some local peaks (confided to smaller regions) the "third wave", will be a ripple.
(More of this later). This, of course assumes, no wild behaviour or nonsense among people and no immunity escape variant.
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The latest from (sutra-india.in) remains what I posted here about a month ago .(As assumed - high contact rate due to to restrictions being lifted, fits -- The flat part of the curve is a little higher (about 5K) than the previous chart which does indicate that people are getting immune faster and the effect of vaccinations etc.
(More of this later - those who are interested are encouraged to look at data and models from scientists like us from reputable links)
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Record Single Day doses administered 8)

from PIB: 99,00,007 as of 7:50PM

Day 224 - 62,09,43,580 https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1749678 Posted On: 27 AUG 2021 7:50PM
Day 223 - 61,10,43,573 https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1749336 Posted On: 26 AUG 2021 7:55PM

Update: CoWIN Dashboard says over 1 Cr doses administered (1,02,06,537 to be precise)

https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/

Vaccine Dose Availability as 27th Aug 2021

SUPPLIED: 59,86,36,380
PIPELINE: 17,64,000
BALANCE AVAILABLE: 4,05,05,746

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetail.aspx?PRID=1749524
Further, more than 17.64 Lakh doses (17,64,000) are in the pipeline.

More than 4.05 Cr (4,05,05,746) balance and unutilized COVID Vaccine doses are still available with the States/UTs to be administered.
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Meanwhile "Our efforts to understand the origins of this pandemic will not rest," says
US President Biden in a statement after receiving classified intelligence review of COVID19 origins.
Statement by President Joe Biden on the Investigation into the Origins of COVID-⁠19

Here is - unclassified version from ODNI
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Key Takeaways:

The IC assesses that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, probably emerged and infected humans through an initial small-scale exposure that occurred no later than November 2019 with the first known cluster of COVID-19 cases arising in Wuhan, China in December 2019. In addition, the IC was able to reach broad agreement on several other key issues. We judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon. Most agencies also assess with low confidence that SARS-CoV-2 probably was not genetically engineered; however, two agencies believe there was not sufficient evidence to make an assessment either way. Finally, the IC assesses China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of COVID-19 emerged.
After examining all available intelligence reporting and other information, though, the IC remains divided on the most likely origin of COVID-19. All agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident.
 Four IC elements and the National Intelligence Council assess with low confidence that the initial SARS-CoV-2 infection was most likely caused by natural exposure to an animal infected with it or a close progenitor virus—a virus that probably would be more than 99 percent similar to SARS-CoV-2. These analysts give weight to China’s officials’ lack of foreknowledge, the numerous vectors for natural exposure, and other factors.
 One IC element assesses with moderate confidence that the first human infection with SARS-CoV-2 most likely was the result of a laboratory-associated incident, probably involving experimentation, animal handling, or sampling by the Wuhan Institute of Virology. These analysts give weight to the inherently risky nature of work on coronaviruses.
 Analysts at three IC elements remain unable to coalesce around either explanation without additional information, with some analysts favoring natural origin, others a laboratory origin, and some seeing the hypotheses as equally likely.
 Variations in analytic views largely stem from differences in how agencies weigh intelligence reporting and scientific publications, and intelligence and scientific gaps.
The IC judges they will be unable to provide a more definitive explanation for the origin of COVID-19 unless new information allows them to determine the specific pathway for initial natural contact with an animal or to determine that a laboratory in Wuhan was handling SARS- CoV-2 or a close progenitor virus before COVID-19 emerged.


 The IC—and the global scientific community—lacks clinical samples or a complete understanding of epidemiological data from the earliest COVID-19 cases. If we obtain information on the earliest cases that identified a location of interest or occupational exposure, it may alter our evaluation of hypotheses.
China’s cooperation most likely would be needed to reach a conclusive assessment of the origins of COVID-19. Beijing, however, continues to hinder the global investigation, resist sharing information and blame other countries, including the United States. These actions reflect, in part, China’s government’s own uncertainty about where an investigation could lead as well as its frustration the international community is using the issue to exert political pressure on China.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

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The US president is saying this to keep legislators from derailing other agendas. Absolutely nothing will come of this.
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