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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Mort Walker » 01 Dec 2020 01:11

vera_k wrote:That email thread is encouraging. Now, what items of value Pakistan offer up in exchange for $$$?



Pak will make another so called "U-turn" and sell out the Chinese this time in return for billions in aid and military assurances from the US. Lots of good F-16s will be available once deliveries F-35 start to US partners. Raytheon will be happy to sell a few hundred AIM-120D AMRAAMs.
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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby vijayk » 01 Dec 2020 01:11

If Trump had said this "We have huge deficit.They have a lot of oil. Lets loot loot loot". Imagine what the scums from WaPo/CNN/NYT would have said. This was buried by all the media w/o any consequences.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Mort Walker » 01 Dec 2020 01:15

vijayk wrote:If Trump had said this "We have huge deficit.They have a lot of oil. Lets loot loot loot". Imagine what the scums from WaPo/CNN/NYT would have said. This was buried by all the media w/o any consequences.


Absolutely dishonest media. Look at WaPo fawning over themselves about all female communications team that has existed with Trump, Pence and FLOTUS for a while now.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Bart S » 01 Dec 2020 06:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTbwN__8dHo


This is worth a watch. This guy is a reliable source of data and analysis on the CCP regime, and based on what he recapped in the video, Biden's advisers are heavily pro-China to the point of being delusional, and this is may not bode well for us.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby schinnas » 01 Dec 2020 17:31

The email thread indicates exact opposite of what Mr. Mort Walker seems to infer. Neera Tandon is asking for the countries to pay US rather than the other way around. Pakis can say good bye to any US aid from Biden admin unless they are willing to kiss goodbye to their opposition to Israel and make concessions on Afghanistan.

The danger from Biden admin is unlikely to be aid to Pakis. It is their China policy (or rather their Indo-Pacific strategy) that India would be concerned about. US - India defence co-operation will continue as US would want some leverage over China who are increasingly playing difficult in all discussions with US.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Yagnasri » 01 Dec 2020 18:57

Biden and Dems are heavily pro Jihadis. So cost will not be a matter of concern for them. We will see lot of fun in near future. A bit OT bit just now the BoyMan PM of Canada gave a statement on Farmer agitation in Bharat. A indication of the things to come from the US also. Canada will be for Khalisthanis and the US will be for Jihadis and both for Urban Naxals.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby chanakyaa » 01 Dec 2020 20:08

OMB's agency directive and what their heads actually do are two different things. In theory, this is supposed to be apolitical organization and their head is supposed to carry apolitical views. But, they are appointed by the POTUS that tells you the direction in which wind will blow. OMB and its head has no political role and make strategy decisions. OMB's role is pretty administrative in nature. In recent years, all OMB directors have done is go on national TV and sell to the public why a bloated budge is such a good thing for the country. No one believes in their economic projections. If you look at JoBa's treasury and other economic appointment, it quite clear that JoBa's admin is about present a effing bloated, war-time, deficit-going-through-the-roof budget which Ms. Tanden will sell at prime time. See videos of prior OMB heads who were quite famous on TV Mick Mulvaney and Peter R. Orszag.

In recent years, the OMB director have changed more frequently. 3 under Trump, 7 under Obama, 4 under GWB and Clinton each. The goal of the OMB director is to sell crazy govt. accounting to media and secure his/her post after govt. job. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Management_and_Budget

Whether bheekh for Bakis resume, time will time. Chances are high that it resumes in some shape or form. Regardless, Ms. Tanden will have little say on this matter regardless how it plays out.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Vayutuvan » 03 Dec 2020 06:08

I want to take credit for this post of mine. I said back in back in April itself that KD Harris will be the VP pick.

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I think the following prediction is also going to become a reality - one way or the other.

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GoI better be prepared for this eventuality now that Durham had been appointed as the Special Counsel to look into Origins of the Russia Collusion Probe

Fir the first two years, Biden would be pulled from all sides and would not have the time to attend relationship with India which is low-priority for the US. Come 2023, Biden might get impeached. If GOP takes control of the senate, Hunter Biden-Beijing connection will be looked into by the Senate.

I hope MEA and India are looking into corru... err ... coopting KD Harris in the two years we have before she asends the throne.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Yagnasri » 03 Dec 2020 13:03

Harris or Biden admin for that matter will be up for sale from the day one. As long as we are ready to spend money I am sure we need not worry much except the pro jihadi activities.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Mort Walker » 04 Dec 2020 00:46

Yagnasri wrote:Harris or Biden admin for that matter will be up for sale from the day one. As long as we are ready to spend money I am sure we need not worry much except the pro jihadi activities.


You’re most likely correct. The problem is, the Chinese have deep pockets and have taken care of Biden’s son and daughter.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Vayutuvan » 04 Dec 2020 07:35

Mort Walker wrote:You’re most likely correct. The problem is, the Chinese have deep pockets and have taken care of Biden’s son and daughter.


Since KD Harris is somewhat ambitious, Chinese investment may be a dud. We should be forward looking and hence the nee to coopt KD Harris ma'am, IMHO. She is of Indian origin. We need to use that 'emotional connection' to the hilt.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Yagnasri » 07 Dec 2020 12:48

There will be no emotional connect for her. Her entire political life including her initial "raise" in political ladder is marked by making use of "everything" possible. Such people will never have any emotional connect with anything let alone a nation with whom she share no cultural or civilizational links. Remember she identifies has as a Black Cristian. Never as Indian. Never showed any Hindu identity at all. Talking about idles is not any kind of link.

So have good lobby gang to represent us and pay them well. That is all.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby m_saini » 10 Dec 2020 17:10

Decoupling from China rejected by Biden team

According to Tony Blinken, decoupling is ‘unrealistic’ and ‘counterproductive’; it also wouldn’t work

Senior officials in President Donald Trump’s administration have floated the idea that the US government may reimburse the costs of American companies relocating operations out of China, in order to diversify geographic risks to global supply chains and reduce over-reliance on China.

Although US President-elect Joe Biden also talks about bringing manufacturing jobs back home, his choice for secretary of state, Tony Blinken, has minced no words in distancing the incoming administration from the idea of decoupling.

“Trying to fully decouple, as some have suggested, from China … is unrealistic and ultimately counterproductive,” Blinken said at an event hosted by the US Chamber of Commerce during the election campaign. “It would be a mistake.”

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby TKiran » 10 Dec 2020 20:38

I don't understand this decoupling business. Except the Brand-name, all the factory investments are by CCP in any company which is doing business in China. Actually, CCP is doing a favor to American companies by allowing them to use their American Brand-name while doing business inside China or exporting to the other parts of the world, including to US.

Decoupling means you stop using the American Brand-name for anything that is produced in China.

Except for chipsets there's nothing that's owned by American companies as their exclusive specialty.

the alternate "supply chain" doesn't make sense at all.

If the understanding of "Decoupling " means, you produce the same product in different geographical location, then that can be done without decoupling also.

When CCP kicks out American companies (makes it illegal to use American Brand-name for anything produced in China) then the business can continue with supplies from other countries.

When you go and beg CCP for American companies to establish their supply chains in China, but fail to protect your processes and products copied by CCP then it's not CCP that's guilty of theft but it's "swayam krithaaparadham".

Indians follow a principle called "Astheyam" (non stealing from others)which is a "Yama". In fact, many countries follow this principle but not CCP or Muslims. So believing CCP is a strategic blunder done by USA from Nixon onwards. The only way to correct that mistake is to protect whatever little they have still preserved as their intellectual property and sell all the physical infrastructure if any still owned atleast partially by American companies in China. And not sell their American Brand-name. IBM did sell their laptops business but not its Brand-name. That's the only way to go.

99% of the business between USA and China is already decoupled in reality. (In favor of CCP)

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby kit » 10 Dec 2020 21:01

https://rusi.org/commentary/biden-administration-and-future-us-india-ties


Overall, therefore, a Biden administration will be a less abrasive and more traditional partner for India and is likely to seek continuity in deepening ties with India, particularly as it seeks to work with partners around the world to tackle global challenges and compete with China.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Rampy » 10 Dec 2020 21:37

Heard this yesterday and i am shioked if true. Looks like they have surpassed even worst Bihar elections
Full Hima Kolanagireddy testimony before Michigan House alleging election fraud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG2RkKBHX0M

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby dsreedhar » 10 Dec 2020 22:42

Rampy wrote:Heard this yesterday and i am shioked if true. Looks like they have surpassed even worst Bihar elections
Full Hima Kolanagireddy testimony before Michigan House alleging election fraud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG2RkKBHX0M


Here is another testimony on fraud from Indian American (likely keralite) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmsIs5QemG8&t=358s

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby saip » 12 Dec 2020 05:40

Looks like Biden is pretty much President Elect. SCOTUS rejected Texas petition to overturn the election. Monday the electoral college meets and votes I believe.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Mort Walker » 12 Dec 2020 09:19

^^^That has no impact on India.

What does have an impact is how much shri Biden got kickbacks from his family‘s dealings with China.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby hnair » 13 Dec 2020 08:14

The Gorier-than-gora India-hater apparently is the front runner, because he is a “person of color” :shock: All the tubes of Fair n Lovely he must have used has gone to waste. But this means all companies with Indian CXOs will have to brace themselves for hostile action whenever he feels he is not gora enough.

The Finance 202: Preet Bharara, Gary Gensler top list of potential picks for SEC chair



But barring major pushback from the left, Bharara “seems really likely,” another Wall Street lobbyist tells me. “If you look at his background and credentials, he checks a lot of boxes: Person of color; worked for Schumer; experienced prosecutor; and he’s run an organization. If Biden wants a cop on the beat to rein in perceived excesses, he seems like an ideal candidate.”

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby hnair » 13 Dec 2020 08:22

Mort Walker wrote:^^^That has no impact on India.

What does have an impact is how much shri Biden got kickbacks from his family‘s dealings with China.


It does have impact - where India is concerned, he is officially become president elect, whether you like it not.

Let us wait until something substantive than the Mueller investigation type houbara-hunt happens in US and Biden is implicated in a China angle. We had enough of dire warnings from the other other side against Trump for four years in this fora and it turned out to be just brainwashed parroting of political lines with zero impact to India.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Mort Walker » 14 Dec 2020 06:56

hrnair,

SCOTUS rejecting Texas case was a given, no US court is going to intervene in the Electoral College vote. Doing so is fraught with issues. They will only get involved when a state conducts activities which are anti-constitutional. Even Bush V. Gore in Dec. 2000 was resolved before the vote.

As far as Shri Biden is concerned...the criminal investigation started last spring and Trump is furious with his Attorney General for not letting him know. Even CNN has reported:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics ... index.html
During the 2017-2018 period the "big guy" was involved in business dealings with his beta in China. Grounds for impeachment in 2023.

Trump will leave Washington between Xmas and new year to Florida only to return to WH briefly to flush toilet in oval office before heading out January 18th.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Roop » 15 Dec 2020 10:13

Mort Walker wrote:Even Bush V. Gore in Dec. 2000 was resolved before the vote.


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This is not the thread to discuss US elections and any fraud which may or may not have happened.
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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Mort Walker » 15 Dec 2020 12:26

Both sides cheat which is why all of the cases filed by Republicans were flimsy to begin with. The US voting system is 'effed up. No central/federal election commision with any authority, and more importantly no codified rules or Model Code of Conduct. Each state doing it's own thing with varying discrepancies. Places like CA are worse than WB with Mamata Banerjee. Places like NYC are returning to the 1970s era of high crime and murder again with single party rule.

Don't worry, the GOP EJ elephants will win again with traditional candidates who are just as bad as the Urban Naxal Donkeys. The GOP has learned how to booth capture from their Donkey brethren. It will be business as usual. The real loss is that Orange Man who will be in jail within a year. He was moving strategic relations with India ahead. It will now be a return to the "golden years" of the Clinton era with the usual strategic interference and nitpicking irritations such as harassment of Indians in the US (recall Khobragade incident allowed by Ombaba admin in 2013). The fun is only going to begin with aholes who will restore military aid to TSP.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby darshan » 15 Dec 2020 18:53

Yes. As long as traditional ones are fielded, both sides would get to use the same system.

A simple example of this is trying to get on the board of local city which has been run by traditionals. Especially if you're trying to volunteer as an outsider for anything that has political value or money involved. One could be exemplary scientist but one won't win against housewives and good old perennial senior citizens.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby nachiket » 16 Dec 2020 02:29

Guys, internal election shenanigans in the US do not affect India. Only the outcome does. Current outcome EC has chosen Biden. There may or may not be more shenanigans on Jan 6. Again, details don't matter to India. Only outcome does.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Mort Walker » 16 Dec 2020 03:40

^Agree. Won’t comment anymore until the anti India fun starts in earnest. Which will be sooner than we think. Surrogates of Shri Biden and Kamala Devi will be up to bat first.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Rishirishi » 16 Dec 2020 05:34

Yagnasri wrote:There will be no emotional connect for her. Her entire political life including her initial "raise" in political ladder is marked by making use of "everything" possible. Such people will never have any emotional connect with anything let alone a nation with whom she share no cultural or civilizational links. Remember she identifies has as a Black Cristian. Never as Indian. Never showed any Hindu identity at all. Talking about idles is not any kind of link.

So have good lobby gang to represent us and pay them well. That is all.


Could not agree more. She seems like an extreme fighter. She has no kids of her own. I do however believe she is genuinely fighting for a more "just" world for the less privelged. Somehow reminds me of Indira Gandhi. I think she will have some sentiments towards India, but will take great pains to keep a very low profile on the Indo-US relations.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby nachiket » 16 Dec 2020 06:22

International relations are not conducted based on "emotional connect" anyway. So even if she had any, it would be of limited use.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby g.sarkar » 16 Dec 2020 08:53

Yagnasri wrote:There will be no emotional connect for her. Her entire political life including her initial "raise" in political ladder is marked by making use of "everything" possible. Such people will never have any emotional connect with anything let alone a nation with whom she share no cultural or civilizational links. Remember she identifies has as a Black Cristian. Never as Indian. Never showed any Hindu identity at all. Talking about idles is not any kind of link.
So have good lobby gang to represent us and pay them well. That is all.

See:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ory-224126
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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Cyrano » 16 Dec 2020 23:55

If you're not smart and ruthless when you start from nothing in politics, you won't last very long.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Rishirishi » 18 Dec 2020 04:02

nachiket wrote:International relations are not conducted based on "emotional connect" anyway. So even if she had any, it would be of limited use.


Research shows, people take the decision with the sentiments. Calculations may be used to build the sentiment, but finally any decision is the result of a sentiment. Biden is old and will not be able to do much work. Kamala may turn out to be the real person in command. She will decide the direction and pick the top people. It could make a difference.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Vayutuvan » 18 Dec 2020 05:58

nachiket wrote:International relations are not conducted based on "emotional connect" anyway. So even if she had any, it would be of limited use.


If India wants to "corrupt" her, it can be done under the guise of "emotional connect". We have seen Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright, etc. being very partial to Europe, unlike Condi Rice. Same between Canada/Australia/NZ/UK. A similar relationship exists between Spain and Argentina, Portugal and Brazil.

Bill Clinton spent a year at Oxford. Both Clintons look at the UK as their civilizational and cultural ancestor. Albright's case is even stronger. She was born in Prague.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Ambar » 18 Dec 2020 07:01

Ro Khanna to be named as the vice chair of the congressional India caucus.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Rishirishi » 18 Dec 2020 08:10

Vayutuvan wrote:
nachiket wrote:International relations are not conducted based on "emotional connect" anyway. So even if she had any, it would be of limited use.


If India wants to "corrupt" her, it can be done under the guise of "emotional connect". We have seen Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright, etc. being very partial to Europe, unlike Condi Rice. Same between Canada/Australia/NZ/UK. A similar relationship exists between Spain and Argentina, Portugal and Brazil.

Bill Clinton spent a year at Oxford. Both Clintons look at the UK as their civilizational and cultural ancestor. Albright's case is even stronger. She was born in Prague.


Not to forget the Jews support of Israel.
It is more about setting the direction in FP. Any Pak general will have an emotional issue with Kamala. Access to tech may get simpler for India. She may not approve the sale of ICMB but perhaps the JSF could get on the table. She may even support Indias bid for permanent membership in the UNSC. Indo-US relations are growing very fast. Kamal may just let that happen.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby Yagnasri » 18 Dec 2020 11:24

She will be beholden to PC BS gangs. Entire Administration will be. PC BS gang hates Hindus and Bharat. So we can look forward them to create problems to us. Ro Khanna is a paki lover. His appointment as Vice Chair of Indian Caucus shows how disconnected they are from reality.

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Re: Biden Presidency impacts on India

Postby arshyam » 18 Dec 2020 17:04

Rishirishi wrote:
Vayutuvan wrote:
If India wants to "corrupt" her, it can be done under the guise of "emotional connect". We have seen Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright, etc. being very partial to Europe, unlike Condi Rice. Same between Canada/Australia/NZ/UK. A similar relationship exists between Spain and Argentina, Portugal and Brazil.

Bill Clinton spent a year at Oxford. Both Clintons look at the UK as their civilizational and cultural ancestor. Albright's case is even stronger. She was born in Prague.


Not to forget the Jews support of Israel.
It is more about setting the direction in FP. Any Pak general will have an emotional issue with Kamala. Access to tech may get simpler for India. She may not approve the sale of ICMB but perhaps the JSF could get on the table. She may even support Indias bid for permanent membership in the UNSC. Indo-US relations are growing very fast. Kamal may just let that happen.

Some strong dreams here :lol:


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