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Why can't we allow someone in say Delhi police to sue Twitter for heavy damages for attacks on them on Jan 26 because of provocations in the media?

Why can't we use someone like Su Swamy to go after them? Same thing with Netflix/Amazon Prime video or someone saying their platform helped fan the flames of hatred against them?
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Because India needs a well defined law on the liability of websites for the content posted on them by others. In the US, this is defined by a law named Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Most SM sites by default presume that the parameters of Section 230 apply to them worldwide, but this need not be the case. India needs to define its own law, which may be completely different in substance and may in fact require sites to import government-directed editorial input over the content posted there. In fact there is an ongoing effort in the US to reform Section 230.

Secondly, India needs a sophisticated internet infrastructure that can takedown or penalize sites that do not follow the government's mandate. Big brother attitude ? Not really - it levels the playing field between the printed press and internet press. Newspapers are liable for what's printed by them, even if it's an opinion by someone not employed by the paper.

Thirdly, India needs to push data localization that requires all data and analytics by SM companies on Indian users be located in India. The internet infrastructure can and should restrict the companies from publishing and gaining ad revenue while they are under sanctions, the cut off of revenue acting as the imposition of a fine. The lack of access to their own analytics serving to cut off their profit center.

Banning entire SM platforms is an option riven with poor optics among other things. The more effective approach is that if they insist on their own standards of 'free speech', i.e. letting Khalistanis run wild on their site while banning Francois Gautier, they can do it while bleeding millions to keep an India operation running. As is the case with almost any western company, their morality is denominated in $.

The Chinese have demonstrated this time and again. If you want a western company to bend, focus on their bottomline. Banning them is easy, but acts an enabler of their message quite often. Cut off their money, and they become much much more compliant.
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Now that we have a desi alternative in Koo, banning twitter wouldn't be such a bad idea regardless of optics. Whatever millions GoI can bleed out of twitter would be pocket change that can easily be forgotten if it means Koo gets the entire twitter india business.
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Yes Koo is a good alternative. It's really stable now. I don't know if it has DM capability yet, but otherwise it's nice. Several Indian ministries seem much more active on Koo than Twitter now, but PMO is not there yet. If Koo is can keep building capability and more people - especially those with impact - move onto it, then taking Twitter out of the picture in India is feasible.

More than Twitter, I think India needs an urgent domestic replacement for Whatsapp. It is far more pervasive and more harmful. WA has about 20x the userbase in India that Twitter does. I'm aware there's an app called Sandes now, but it needs greater push.
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Purely from a policy perspective, apps need to be rigorously sorted into legally permissible and not legally permissible based on meeting criteria.

On the one hand you have p*o*r*n purveyors and Twitter that look to be irredeemable because of choices the platforms are making with respect to content made available. On the other hand you have something like Whatsapp, where there are efforts made to catch up with policy changes and not a willful choice made to operate to a different standard than other platforms.

The second type are much less of an issue, although would be good to have competition and choice.
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SIgned up on Koo from PC. Koo app not available in my locale. Koo needs to build a lot of new user momentum in the next 3 months. Else interest will fizzle and it will be very hard to bounce back.
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BTW, Congrats to @Suraj san for his tweet to be re-tweeted by Sri Piyush Goyal'ji, Hon. minister of railways.
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disha wrote:BTW, Congrats to @Suraj san for his tweet to be re-tweeted by Sri Piyush Goyal'ji, Hon. minister of railways.
Thanks :) Here's what happened: https://twitter.com/PiyushGoyal/status/ ... 28960?s=20
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very proud of you suraj saar! Pls do follow some BRF ites on twitter
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So guys is Koo officially a ghost town now? i dont see anyone talk about it oi on it already
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Same with Signal after the initial euphoria. Unless significant number of whom you follow or your followers also move, alternative social media or messaging platforms will not be successful. The only way to make it work is going the China way and outright banning them. India did it with TikTok and after the initial success of Chigari, i once again see content creators make new cringy videos on TikTok. I think they are bypassing the ban by using VPN and wont embrace Chingari because of significant content monetization differences between the two platforms.
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Money itself would never be enough, you have to force people to be there. Mixer paid big money to a number to streamers to move from twitch but it didn't matter much. Completely agree that taking out twitter for the time being is the way to go, we even had justification to do so and still do.

VPNs can be blocked too but not sure if we have the tech.
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YouTube removes video interview of Yati Narsinghanand where he spoke about the Dasna temple controversy
https://www.opindia.com/2021/03/youtube ... ntroversy/
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Nice. Clearly the reports of INC being short of money are exaggerated.
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SandeepA wrote:So guys is Koo officially a ghost town now? i dont see anyone talk about it oi on it already
Koo will need support from our own govt to succeed. Even prioritizing messages on Koo over twitter by 15 mins/1 hour might lead to more usage.
I really hope Koo changes its logo from bird (reminds of some other SM platform) to something else.
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Facebook removes all access to Boulder mass shooting suspect Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa
https://www.opindia.com/2021/03/faceboo ... wi-alissa/
According to the posts made by him over the years, he was a devout Muslim who often believed in conspiracy theories.
Notably, his profile went missing not only from Facebook but also from internet archive websites, including Wayback machine, Archive.is and Google’s cache.
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This is very scary. So FB, Google, and the Big Tech will decide what will stay on the internet and what will not? So now they feel they have power to write history and what's good for us and what's not.
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12 individuals behind anti-vaxxer messages shared over 800,000 times in 6 weeks.This is why we cannot have anonymous postings that can be forwarded by more than a few say 100 people. Along with this the big tech companies playing judge,jury and executioner to regulate in the name of free speech or freedom of expression is the reason for the claims on "fake media"

https://mashable.com/article/disinforma ... i-vaxxers/

We have to call these guys out...
The largest anti-vaxxer influencer on social media, according to the report, is Joseph Mercola. Mercola is an alternative medicine promoter who runs a multimillion dollar online business selling treatments and dietary supplements. The FDA recently sent Mercola a warning over his sham treatments for COVID-19
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We've previously seen data posted on which SM sites are most used in India, by number of users. Here's some data from the other perspective, specifically for YouTube.

Which channels have the most subscribers ?
1 T-Series[11] 177 Hindi[12][13] Music
2 PewDiePie[14] 109 English[15] Entertainment
3 Cocomelon - Nursery Rhymes[16] 108 English Education
4 SET India[17] 100 Hindi[18] Entertainment
5 ✿ Kids Diana Show[19] 76.4 English Entertainment
6 WWE[20] 75.1 English[21] Sports
7 5-Minute Crafts[22] 71.8 English[23] Entertainment
8 Like Nastya[24] 72.1 Russian[25] Entertainment
9 Zee Music Company[26] 70.6 Hindi[27][28] Music
10 Vlad and Niki[29] 64.5 English[30] Entertainment
T-Series leads with 177 million subscribers, ahead of 2nd place with <110m
Which channels have the most views ?
1. T-Series T-Series 148 Music IND Hindi
2. Adele N/A 100 Music GBR English
3. SET India Sony Pictures Networks India 82 Entertainment IND Hindi
4. Zee TV Zee Entertainment Enterprises Limited 58
5. WWE WWE 56 Sports USA English
6. Like Nastya Yoola 54 Entertainment RUS Russian and English
7. Kids Diana Show AIR[7] 53 UKR English
8. Movieclips Movieclips 49 Film USA
9. SAB TV Sony Pictures Networks India 49 Entertainment IND Hindi
10. Ryan's World N/A 46 USA English
T-Series again leads with 148 BILLION views, ahead of 100B from #2. 4 of the top 10 are Hindi.
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SpongeBob episodes get pulled by streaming services
One episode, "Kwarantined Crab," from the show's 12th season, centers on a virus storyline. "We have decided to not air it due to sensitivities surrounding the global, real-world pandemic," a spokesperson for Nickelodeon told CNN Business.
Another episode called "Mid-Life Crustacean" has been out of rotation since 2018. In it, SpongeBob, Patrick and Mr. Krabs break into a woman's house and steal her underwear. "We determined some story elements were not kid-appropriate," the Nickelodeon spokesperson said.
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Twitter restores official handle of Lieutenant Governor office of Jammu and Kashmir Manoj Sinha after govt steps in
https://www.opindia.com/2021/05/twitter ... ores-govt/
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darshan wrote:Twitter restores official handle of Lieutenant Governor office of Jammu and Kashmir Manoj Sinha after govt steps in
https://www.opindia.com/2021/05/twitter ... ores-govt/
What happened to koo?
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Will Social Media Companies Like Twitter Cease To Operate In India In 2 Days?
Almost three months on from the most definitive social media guidelines it has put out so far, the Centre has issued warning to significant social media companies like Twitter, to ensure compliance with the new rules notified by the Union Government on February 25 earlier this year, sources said. The Ministry of Electronics and IT had given all social media companies three months to fall in line with the Intermediary Guidelines and Digital Media Ethics Code Rules, the deadline of which is due on May 25, i.e. on Tuesday.
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Some random thoughts:
1. Lets say that starting tomorrow, if GoI official handles prioritize Koo over Twitter, would certain left ecosystem entities will be forced to create accounts on Koo as well? Ex: NDTV, Print, INC?
2. Twitter still would be the preferred medium for BIF to post FUD materials against India. GoI or at least RW folks would have to maintain Twitter accounts/access to counter these FUD...else they would go unchallenged. The window in to India for many international folks is via Twitter and it is BIF's playground
3. I think the converse of the above is true to a certain extent as well. Lets say that BJP will post their achievements/articles exclusively on Koo...will the BIF/opponents bother to counter them articles or message?

I think it all depends on how well Koo takes over...if GoI bans or makes Twitter so slow for enough time (Certain threshold level) that Koo becomes the preferred platform at least in India, then it would become important for BIF to have presence there as well.

I think at least GoI should do 1st...prioritize or post exclusively on Indian platforms rather than Twitter. I know Piyush Goyal had said earlier this year that he would post it first on Koo (like 15 minutes) before linking the same on Twitter. Not sure how well it went (or is still going)...
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SandeepA wrote:Will Social Media Companies Like Twitter Cease To Operate In India In 2 Days?
Almost three months on from the most definitive social media guidelines it has put out so far, the Centre has issued warning to significant social media companies like Twitter, to ensure compliance with the new rules notified by the Union Government on February 25 earlier this year, sources said. The Ministry of Electronics and IT had given all social media companies three months to fall in line with the Intermediary Guidelines and Digital Media Ethics Code Rules, the deadline of which is due on May 25, i.e. on Tuesday.
a few diehard people may use some free vpn service to reach twitter but that will soon overload and also, they will be among just a minuscule quantity of users
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This about sums it up


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Looks like there is a feeling among general populace that Twitter would get banned in India, on May 26th. That would not be happening.
Facebook, Twitter May Face Criminal Action in India as Deadline to Comply to Intermediary Rules Ends Today
What would actually happen is that Twitter et.al would not be able to weasel out by saying that they are "significant social media intermediaries" and they cannot be held responsible for the contents posted by their users. What would happen is that GoI can initiate criminal proceedings against these social media outlets and now hold them responsible. Facebook seems to have towed the GoI line, but others have'nt.
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Facebook seems to have towed the GoI line, but others have'nt.

Doesn;t really look like that Sachin garu

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/exc ... 021-05-26/
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Well, the first amendment is clear as mud. It means that every free speech issue has to be litigated. Facebook is following the script laid out.
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whatsapp moves the Delhi High Court against the Indian Govt challenging the recently imposed India IT Rules. Claims New IT Laws will Hamper whatsapp privacy Laws. Interestingly, it further claims that user privacy is in its DNA and the company will not share the information related to the "first originator of information" with any government including India.

meanwhile, a russian court has fined both facebook and google for failing to take down 'illegal Content' in spite of warning by Moscow.

and again, no ameriki big tech media or politico including beijingbiden seem to have the goolies to question the cheeni who have banned twitter, facebook and google

let us see how the various pillars of "our" democracy react to the new east India company foreigners' on going digital invasion of India and the crass attempts at subjugation of the Indian populace by imposing their narrative led agenda, supporting the corrupting commie, naxal and woke value system and, their gross and entirely unwarranted interference in India's internal affairs by private, unelected, and BIF led foreign entities who precipitated brexit and de-platformed trump, influenced the ameriki elections to get bejingbiden and comma la heiress by wilfully suppressing evidence of beijingbiden's family and their corrupt dalliances with the cheeni political ecosystem

and finally, WTH does a christofascist like jack on crack think, that he, as an entitled and woke commie ameriki, has the god given right to override the democratically elected govt of a sovereign state like India. Are we being viewed as some pliable banana republic by these big tech social media crooks who think that they can push countries around in their crass pursuit of profits and be allowed to shape favorable national policies in India to benefit themselves by constructing and controlling the narrative.

Are they the new age commercial assassins and economic hitmen who may soon be emboldened enough to operate in the hallowed space of national security, if not stopped in their tracks.

Social media plays an important part in spreading hysteria and congi, naxal and woke leftist propoganda.

better to ban or limit their use, or it will embolden them and also set a bad precedent in coming years.


WhatsApp sues Indian govt, says new media rules mean end to privacy
Lawsuit, described to Reuters by people familiar with it, asks Delhi High Court to declare that one of the new rules is a violation of privacy rights in India's constitution since it requires social media companies to identify the "first originator of information" when authorities demand it

May 26, 2021

WhatsApp sues Indian govt, says new media rules mean end to privacy

Lawsuit escalates a growing struggle between the government and tech giants in one of their key global growth markets

WhatsApp has filed a legal complaint in Delhi against the Indian government seeking to block regulations coming into force on Wednesday that experts say would compel the California-based Facebook unit to break privacy protections, sources said.

The lawsuit, described to Reuters by people familiar with it, asks the Delhi High Court to declare that one of the new rules is a violation of privacy rights in India's constitution since it requires social media companies to identify the "first originator of information" when authorities demand it.

While the law requires WhatsApp to unmask only people credibly accused of wrongdoing, the company says it cannot do that alone in practice. Because messages are end-to-end encrypted, to comply with the law WhatsApp says it would have break encryption for receivers, as well as "originators", of messages.

Reuters could not independently confirm the complaint had been filed in court by WhatsApp, which has nearly 400 million users in India, nor when it might be reviewed by the court. The people with knowledge of the matter declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue.

A WhatsApp spokesman declined to comment.

Also read: Facebook says it is working with govt to meet regulatory compliance

The lawsuit escalates a growing struggle between Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government and tech giants including Facebook, Google parent Alphabet and Twitter in one of their key global growth markets.

Tensions grew after a police visit to Twitter's offices earlier this week. The micro-blogging service had labelled posts by a spokesman for the dominant party and others as containing "manipulated media", saying forged content was included.

The government has also pressed the tech companies to remove not only what it has described as misinformation on the COVID-19 pandemic ravaging India, but also some criticism of the government's response to the crisis, which is claiming thousands of lives daily.

The response of the companies to the new rules has been a subject of intense speculation since they were unveiled in February, 90 days before they were slated to go into effect.

The Intermediary Guidelines and Digital Media Ethics Code, promulgated by the ministry of information technology, designates "significant social media intermediaries" as standing to lose protection from lawsuits and criminal prosecution if they fail to adhere to the code.

WhatsApp, its parent Facebook and tech rivals have all invested heavily in India. But company officials worry privately that increasingly heavy-handed regulation by the Modi government could jeopardize those prospects.

Among the new rules are requirements that big social media firms appoint Indian citizens to key compliance roles, remove content within 36 hours of a legal order, and set up a mechanism to respond to complaints. They must also use automated processes to take down *****.

Facebook has said that it agrees with most of the provisions but is still looking to negotiate some aspects. Twitter, which has come under the most fire for failing to take down posts by government critics, declined to comment.

Some in the industry are hoping for a delay in the introduction of the new rules while such objections are heard. The WhatsApp complaint cites a 2017 Indian Supreme Court ruling supporting privacy in a case known as Puttaswamy, the people familiar with it said.

The court found then that privacy must be preserved except in cases where legality, necessity and proportionality all weighed against it. WhatsApp argues that the law fails all three of those tests, starting with the lack of explicit parliamentary backing.

Experts have backed WhatsApp's arguments. "The new traceability and filtering requirements may put an end to end-to-end encryption in India," Stanford Internet Observatory scholar Riana Pfefferkorn wrote in March.

Other court challenges to the new rules are already pending in Delhi and elsewhere. In one, journalists argue that the extension of technology regulations to digital publishers, including the imposition of decency and taste standards, is unsupported by the underlying law.
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Sachin wrote:Looks like there is a feeling among general populace that Twitter would get banned in India, on May 26th. That would not be happening.
Facebook, Twitter May Face Criminal Action in India as Deadline to Comply to Intermediary Rules Ends Today
What would actually happen is that Twitter et.al would not be able to weasel out by saying that they are "significant social media intermediaries" and they cannot be held responsible for the contents posted by their users. What would happen is that GoI can initiate criminal proceedings against these social media outlets and now hold them responsible. Facebook seems to have towed the GoI line, but others have'nt.
facebook has invested six billion$ in ambani's Jio.

They have to protect their investment or explain to their shareholders why they dropped a such a huge bundle on the jio investment.
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'Every Indian is cheering for us': Amidst Twitter ban row, home-grown Koo lands $30 million funding
BENGALURU: Home-grown micro blogging site, Koo said on Wednesday that it has landed a fresh $30 million funding in a Series C round led by US investment fir, Tiger Global with existing investors Accel Partners, Kalaari Capital, Blume Ventures and Dream Incubator also participating in the round. IIFL and Mirae Assets are other new investors who have come on board the cap table with this round, the company said in a statement.

In March this year, the Twitter lookalike platform raised an undisclosed amount from the former Indian Cricketer Javagal Srinath, BookMyShow Founder Ashish Hemrajani, Udaan Co-Founder Sujeet Kumar, Flipkart CEO Kalyan Krishnamurthy and Zerodha Founder Nikhil Kamat have participated in the round to buy out shares of Chinese investor, Shunwei Capital which had a 9% stake in the Koo’s parent firm.

“We have aggressive plans to grow into one of the world’s largest social media platforms in the next few years. Every Indian is cheering for us to get there soon. Tiger Global is the right partner to have on board to realize this dream,” Aprameya Radhakrishna, Co-Founder and CEO of Koo, said in a statement.
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Koo, is it listed at BSE?
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rsingh wrote:Koo, is it listed at BSE?
Koo is privately owned not public yet
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Governments have accountability, platforms have none: Sridhar Vembu on India vs Big Tech
Ta-da. Cogent statements. :)
........issue is that platforms like Facebook and Twitter or even YouTube, are getting themselves the power to determine what is acceptable speech. And they are doing this across the world on a variety of topics. They will say algorithms, but it's not really algorithms, it's people who determine what gets seen or not seen. I come from a perspective where sovereignty matters, India has to determine what is appropriate for our standards, our values, all of that. And we don't want a Facebook or Twitter dictating terms to us. And our history as a country was dominated by a company, the East India company should give us pause on all these matters. India has a legally elected government. Even if we disagree with it, there are elections courts all of these mechanisms There is no need for a Facebook to determine what is acceptable discourse in India.
What is your reading of the way section 79 of the IT Act has been applied, because these platforms will now lose the immunity they have and will be liable for third-party content?

Are they a neutral carrier of information like a fiber optic provider? Or are they like a publishing house? And the distinction has been blurred now because they used to be more like a fiber optic provider but now they've actively started to control the information. So then why should they have immunity? Our country may have a different decision on what is acceptable to us, there cannot be a global standard on this, because what is acceptable speech varies by jurisdiction. So that is why I think these are these issues are very much political. And politics is not a dirty word, this must be debated, this must be a legal mechanism, parliament has to pass laws. That's where we are heading on this.
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