2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

nam · Post by **nam** » 26 Jan 2021 15:55

It is very painful for patriots, but now there will no tears shed. It was important to bring the lot out in the open..

asgkhan · Post by **asgkhan** » 26 Jan 2021 15:57

Can I get info on what criminal actions were taken on Shaheenbagh Perps ?

nam · Post by **nam** » 26 Jan 2021 15:59

AshishA wrote: I hope that happens. Because any other flag being hoisted on red fort will be seeing by Khalistanis and Pakis as dilli Vijay and will make them more adventurous and serve as a morale booster.

Of course paks and chinis will take advantage. It is only during trouble, Goi and the people of this nation wakes up from their chalta hai attitude...

nam · Post by **nam** » 26 Jan 2021 16:07

Let's be clear, disrespecting the national flag at a place like red Fort on Republic day is an act of war. No matter what God you follow, there will no sympathy from the public.

m_saini · Post by **m_saini** » 26 Jan 2021 16:08

nam sir GoI danda falling the next day is part of the problem. It's kinda shameful they let this mob riot on such an important day for the country.

Wouldn't care if the farmer gangs riot on any naarmal day, mangoes are quite used to that. But it should've been made clear to the farmer gangs that desecrating the republic day will not be tolerated.

Also funny how "democracy khatre me hai" isn't an issue now that they can't blame the evil hindus for it

nam · Post by **nam** » 26 Jan 2021 16:13

We are not a US or Europe, where people follow law. Everything is about being the victim and victimhood. Goi does the same..

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 16:17

Time to say it.

This romanticisation of farmers is utterly brainless.

They do no favour to anyone by farming.

No one owes them anything.

They farm because thats what they do.

Others are tailors, barbers, industrialists, doctors, engineers, shopkeepers, labourers, builders etc

via@sushantsareen

as received

The price you pay for not using power when it is needed is losing it forever.

What is worse is that the price is paid by others, long after those who held power like a miser holds wealth have gone away into the night.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 26 Jan 2021 16:32

nam wrote:Relax people, everyone knew this hugama was going to happen. The hope was GoI would fire on these lots and it helps the cause.

Goi let them run riot, while police stood on the sides. It is fun to do drama on a day with full josh. When Goi danda falls the next day, the lots will be rotting in jail for many years...

Just sight tight and watch the fun..

Where are the CAA rioting group nowadays? Chaki peesingh or court case?

Starting with confiscating the 'poor farmers' tractors. Impounded as unclaimed during rioting - now please present yourself in Tees Hazari to claim and explain to megistrate what your tractor was doing there if you claim you were not there.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 16:40

naxals, BIF and pappu's game plan

are the hizzonners watching or have they all gone on luxury tours paid for by various state govts

Trusting communists and anti nationals is our biggest mistake
the khalistanis have taken over Delhi
They have now tasted blood
They are determined to bleed the country to the point of submission.
This is just a beginning
Till 2024, every year these things will happen
People who can not win by votes will try to capture power by lathi and tractor

unless the entire process is killed at the very root and the dead stump is removed and even that is destroyed.

Congress@INCIndia·3h

Republic Day 2021 in New India.

Our national capital up in smoke as the govt attacks its own people.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 26 Jan 2021 16:43

If it was any other day - people would have caught up late. But today entire India was tuned into to watch Republic day celebrations - and they saw live how GoI maintained its restraint and treated protestors with kid-gloves but these jokers hoisted Khalistani flag on Red Fort. Seems like INC has totally lost it.

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 26 Jan 2021 16:48

. The broken windows theory is a criminological theory that states that visible signs of crime, anti-social behavior, and civil disorder create an urban environment that encourages further crime and disorder, including serious crimes

Violence in delhi every once in a while like Shaheen bagh, this Khalistani rioting will lead to deteriorating law and order situation in Delhi in the future. A full blown ruthless crackdown on this nonsense is the only way to restore people's faith in the GoI and the system. And along with that it will deter future criminals from getting any funny ideas.

The reaction and the terming of this actions must be as severe as the American leftists did after the storming of Capitol. These jokers need to be hounded out like what happened to conservatives after Capitol rioting.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 26 Jan 2021 16:49

Looks like now the police forces have started using force and the rioters are getting beaten back. No casualties for the police but two farmer brokers/hired goons have gone to meet their 72.

The farmer broker gang leaders are now whining that L&O issues were created by people not part of their outfits. This is a most commonly used excuse.

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 26 Jan 2021 16:52

A befitting end to the punjab protests I'd say.

I doubt amit shah would have hoped for a more spectacular display of baboons shooting themselves in the foot. The flag footage is widely circulating on TV screens and on social media.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 16:53

It isn’t as simple as it is being projected. The unfurling of a religious flag on the top of Red Fort in the heart of India’s capital that has only donned the tricolour to date signifies its capture.

Farmers have no religion but they have a flag other than the tricolour.

Today, the rest of India has seen what Punjabi Hindus have been seeing and experiencing since 80s.

Bhindranwale also used violence to blackmail the state to agree to his unreasonable demands. Today, the same mindset has reached Delhi.

Only, a KPS Gill can deal with these scum.

via@AsYouNotWish

Pic 1: Nishan Sahib (Triangular).

Pic 2: Khalistani flag (Rectangular).

Can anyone explain which flag is this? Nishan Sahib or Khalistani flag?

kit · Post by **kit** » 26 Jan 2021 16:53

Looks like a good situation for the new US admin to ponder over, what happened over in Washington is happening in Delhi at a smaller scale though

kit · Post by **kit** » 26 Jan 2021 16:56

AshishA wrote:
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The reaction and the terming of this actions must be as severe as the American leftists did after the storming of Capitol. These jokers need to be hounded out like what happened to conservatives after Capitol rioting.

If the Modi govt wanted a reason to go hammer and tongs at them , here it is !!

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 26 Jan 2021 17:07

It's the sikh flag, simply called khalsa flag. The symbol is used by Sikh religion in general and khalistani groups. Just like the star and moon symbols in Islam.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 17:09

here is the slimy, sly, traitorous, lady killer lying through his teeth as usual

this is what he and his treasonous commie ilk wanted all along

Shashi Tharoor@ShashiTharoor · 1h

Most unfortunate. I have supported the farmers’ protests from the start but I cannot condone lawlessness. And on #RepublicDay no flag but the sacred tiranga should fly aloft the Red Fort.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 26 Jan 2021 17:09

Goi is handling situation quite alright. Let’s not miss the bigger picture and see what BIF Plan is. The next indo china war is happening anytime between April and November 2021. The BIF plan is for GOI to do something outrageous so that Sikhs in armed forces can be instigated(you already have few instance, latest some random Sikh guy putting up the same flag inGalwan). Only enough to cause India to walk a non optimal path. Plan B is to permanently scar the Bjp/Sikh relation and also have mistrust between Hindus and Sikhs for a more sinister civilizational outcome.
Some folks who cannot handle the heat in BRF should self censore or Admin please do the needful.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 26 Jan 2021 17:11

Don't want to soudn crass - but let me for 1 minute. After what we have witnessed today - 'poor farmers' are now exposed as Khalistanis, judiciary will get the blame for allowing these traitors on 26-Jan and will now think twice before showing unnecessary activism and GoI gets all sympathy for utmost restraint shown in face of such grave threat and provocation. May not be as bad as we are afraid of.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 17:13

nvishal wrote:It's the sikh flag, simply called khalsa flag. The symbol is used by Sikh religion in general and khalistani groups. Just like the star and moon symbols in Islam.

Friends, the Red Fort has been breached, a flag has been hoisted at the top of it.

A flag which is not secular. A flag which is often seen in Canada. A flag which is not our tricolour.

Terror apologists will tell you that it’s farmers’ flag, IT’S NOT.

All for 2,50,000 dollars?

via@AsYouNotWish

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 26 Jan 2021 17:14

Btw like parler was taken down and other vocal conservative people were silenced. It time to go after the enablers of these terrorists. If Arnab can be hounded, dragged, put in Jail and state machinery be used to silence him and his channel, why can't this be done with actual terror enablers who are inimical to this nation? Leave the 'farmers' alone for now and let's go after the cheerleaders.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 26 Jan 2021 17:15

gauravsh wrote:Watching a mob takeover red fort is fun ? Police side stepped because it is incapable of handling such a violent mob.

What should the police have done??

Open fire and kill a few Indian citizens. If you think that is a winning tactic. Think again.

1)For violance from the state to happen. The myth of nonviolent protest has to be broken.

2) what has this accomplished?? Have the brokers gotten their wishes. Has INC gotten it's wishes??

H&D doesn't matter.

I don't know how old you are. But I am old enough to remember that some Pakistanis attacked the red fort to remove Indian flag. It was a huge issue for a few days. 22 years later it's not even a blip on Indian consciousness.

This will have a real effect if the GOI repealed the laws. If they don't this will amount to nothing.

nam · Post by **nam** » 26 Jan 2021 17:19

Whatever be the flag, the history behind, or if it is orange or pink or rainbow, at the Red fort, it is only National tricolor than can unfurled.

No Indian will tolerate watching any other flag on Red fort.

The lot who supported these characters and their drama, just because their favorite party is not in power, know the the meaning of this act.

They know these guys challenged the might of Indian state and they know they will not win.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 26 Jan 2021 17:19

asgkhan wrote:Can I get info on what criminal actions were taken on Shaheenbagh Perps ?

You are asking about the Delhi riots of the peaceful protest??

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 17:24

AshishA wrote:Btw like parler was taken down and other vocal conservative people were silenced. It time to go after the enablers of these terrorists. If Arnab can be hounded, dragged, put in Jail and state machinery be used to silence him and his channel, why can't this be done with actual terror enablers who are inimical to this nation? Leave the 'farmers' alone for now and let's go after the cheerleaders.

these guys have no ability to communicate and or even to put their point across.

nor are they even capable of ever starting, nurturing and running such a channel

the one single channel which was wholeheartedly rooting for them and pushing their point of view has been thrown under the bus.

what's with this stooopid Hindu unwillingness to stand up and fight for themselves and the wanton squandering of offensive assets because it might hurt some sickular sensibilities somewhere.

cases have been pending for years and yet the authorities are left sucking their little thumbs, getting flatfooted every single time.

is there anything at all in those famed nagpur knickers or they will simply keep doing "seva" for others

gauravsh · Post by **gauravsh** » 26 Jan 2021 17:35

Pratyush wrote:
What should the police have done??

Open fire and kill a few Indian citizens. If you think that is a winning tactic. Think again.

1)For violance from the state to happen. The myth of nonviolent protest has to be broken.

2) what has this accomplished?? Have the brokers gotten their wishes. Has INC gotten it's wishes??

H&D doesn't matter.

I don't know how old you are. But I am old enough to remember that some Pakistanis attacked the red fort to remove Indian flag. It was a huge issue for a few days. 22 years later it's not even a blip on Indian consciousness.

This will have a real effect if the GOI repealed the laws. If they don't this will amount to nothing.

1. Controlling a mob does not necessarily means firing upon. First mistake from police was to believe that broker gang will stick to their planned routes.
All this while police should have known that they will try to get into the city, what were the planned steps to stop them ?
2. From the visuals it seemed the number of police personnel was very few, given the size of mob. Wasn't this foreseen ? Agree being Republic day, lot of manpower was distributed, but they could have called some reserves from other states.
3. Police seemed hesitant even to lathi charge. I know this is ot but policing system in our country is outdated and incapable.

Again, my point of contention is protestors reaching Red Fort and hurling the flag. Previous incident you mentioned about is because we as a society don't care and history repeats itself.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 26 Jan 2021 17:36

Am the only one who finds this quite similar to US capital hill protests/insurrection?

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 26 Jan 2021 17:40

https://twitter.com/JajaborManas/status ... 59456?s=09

Storming Red Fort is one thing ...but disrespecting the TriColor just boils my blood ... Atleast these specific individuals should not be spared at all.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 26 Jan 2021 18:17

I think the GOI has shown remarkable sagacity in all this Farmer storming RF!
This really shows what the agitation is all about and nothing to do with farmers
The Pappu's/Johlawala's/Commies are left holding the proverbial '£$%^&' in their hand while the ISI/Khalistani's run amok.
Hope SC is taking note of what has happened today and think on their act of 'passing the buck' to Delhi police in all this mess.
Hope GOI sticks to its guns now and keep showing these images to the so-called kisan leaders next time if/and when there is another meet.
If SC and few select lawyers still think it is their prerogative to lays rules on how the country should be run, society should questions their antics!!
Apart from the Kisan nonsense, the GOI should take a relook at the Law bill again and be done with the Collegium!!
Also the three Javadekar/Prasad/Setharaman roles need to be reviewed.
maybe a lateral move for AS as Defence Minister with Election strategist???
SwapanDas is now in a cold storage?? why
We need a few sauve erudite faces in the ministry to counter the left/shamapoo/congi/BIF's
Jaypanda is the other and ?? Scindia.
Namo needs to concentrate on more 'Esoteric' stuff and later the 2024!!

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 26 Jan 2021 18:53

https://mobile.twitter.com/rajshekharTO ... 1533190145
Tractor overturned and driver died.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 26 Jan 2021 18:54

Rsatchi wrote:I think the GOI has shown remarkable sagacity in all this Farmer storming RF!
This really shows what the agitation is all about and nothing to do with farmers
The Pappu's/Johlawala's/Commies are left holding the proverbial '£$%^&' in their hand while the ISI/Khalistani's run amok.
Hope SC is taking note of what has happened today and think on their act of 'passing the buck' to Delhi police in all this mess.
Hope GOI sticks to its guns now and keep showing these images to the so-called kisan leaders next time if/and when there is another meet.
If SC and few select lawyers still think it is their prerogative to lays rules on how the country should be run, society should questions their antics!!
Apart from the Kisan nonsense, the GOI should take a relook at the Law bill again and be done with the Collegium!!
Also the three Javadekar/Prasad/Setharaman roles need to be reviewed.
maybe a lateral move for AS as Defence Minister with Election strategist???
SwapanDas is now in a cold storage?? why
We need a few sauve erudite faces in the ministry to counter the left/shamapoo/congi/BIF's
Jaypanda is the other and ?? Scindia.
Namo needs to concentrate on more 'Esoteric' stuff and later the 2024!!

100% agree

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 19:00

in another place and in another dimension, has anyone ever seen a padma award being received thus and the President of India paying obeisance.

At least here, the true India has been honoured

Bravo India. Take a bow and may only the truly selfless be so celebrated.

and the next time you see an effing tractor, shoot first and appease later

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 26 Jan 2021 19:07

It is high time to impose emergency in NCR.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 19:11

rsingh wrote:It is high time to impose emergency in NCR.

they have already started the preparations for surrounding the parliament on the 1st of feb.

khujliwal govt using official state resources and the commies are all set and raring to go.

where will you start

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 26 Jan 2021 19:19

Rsatchi wrote: The Pappu's/Johlawala's/Commies are left holding the proverbial '£$%^&' in their hand while the ISI/Khalistani's run amok.
Hope GOI sticks to its guns now and keep showing these images to the so-called kisan leaders next time if/and when there is another meet.

Not happy with the incidents at Red Fort; but looks like that incident has caused more damage to the farmer brokers than the central government. It is no wonder that folks like AAP-tards, Sashi Tharoor etc are now trying to condone violence etc. No body now wants to be openly seen with these traitors. And Amarinder Singh's appeal asking people to come back is also another political gimmick, and perhaps with a knowledge that there could be strong police action later in the evening. The only gang who AFAIK are still with these traitors are Kerala-based communists and peacefools. Kerala seems to be the launching pad of every single movement targetting the nation and I sincerely hope the intelligence agencies are watching and taking preventive measures.

GoI should now time and again use the national television channels to repeatedly show the behaviour when ever any of the farmer broker gang 'demands' a discussion. Ideally GoI should now stop negotiations and if any of the farmer broker wants to cry his heart out; he can do it front of the SC appointed Committee.

PS: I get a gut feeling that there would be some police action in the evening hours, or early morning hours tomorrow. 0300Hrs-0400Hrs is generally the favourite time of the police for such actions. Remember Amma's police fans lifting dear old Karuna in TN years back?

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kit · Post by **kit** » 26 Jan 2021 19:21

ArjunPandit wrote:Am the only one who finds this quite similar to US capital hill protests/insurrection?

No I would say the US admin will find the modi govt as kindred spirits..both having suffered the same, no one can blame India now for suppression/oppression/freedom rights etc. The farmers walked right into a trap

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2021 19:21

Recalling the moment, the President on Twitter said that he was ‘deeply touched’ when the oldest Padma awardee of the year thought it fit to bless him.

“It is the President’s privilege to honour India’s best and most deserving. But today I was deeply touched when Saalumarada Thimmakka, an environmentalist from Karnataka, and at 107 the oldest Padma awardee this year, thought it fit to bless me,” Kovind wrote on Twitter.

Saalumarada Thimmakka represents the resilience and determination and perseverance of the ordinary Indian citizen, especially of women in our country. May her example, and that of every Padma awardee, inspire our India to greater heights #PresidentKovind

— President of India (@rashtrapatibhvn) March 16, 2019

“Thimmkka represents the resilience and determination and perseverance of the ordinary Indian citizen, especial of women in our country,” he added.

Thimmakka reportedly wanted to end her life in her 40s as she could not conceive but with the support of her husband, she found solace in planting trees. The couple worked in fields during the day, planted trees and cared for them. From 10 plants in the first year, they kept planting more saplings in the later years. Sometimes even bringing water from over 4 kilometers for their plants. Thimmakka, who was born in Hulikal village in Karnataka, has planted over 8,000 trees during a period of 65 years. Her husband passed away in 1991.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr2vo8v ... e=emb_logo

President Kovind presents Padma Shri to Smt Saalumarada Thimmakka

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 26 Jan 2021 19:25

what if india needs to start a military operation and needs to transfer forces..wont these pose a big challenge..i would be very watchful of the security of railway tracks now..while it is still resolvable at the earliest by police and most of the idiots who are part of htis would understand that too..but it still complicates the calculus of top planners by sowing doubts on internal situation.
We must not forget potential distraction and international media coverage of godhara/gujarat with timelines of op parakram..

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 26 Jan 2021 19:28

Internet services has been suspended throughout NCR region, i pity students who are preparing for exams or those working from home. Days of mayhem lay ahead of us. It looks like in most places the vastly outnumber Police did not bother putting up any fight, although reports say 18 policemen are severely injured and 1 is in critical. The fire set off by Amrinder Singh will someday consume him , he seems to have forgotten that many of these rioters who have sticks and swords in Delhi today when they exchange it for Kalashnikovs and ask for Khalistan, its the Punjab state institutions they will first go after.