2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 27 Jan 2021 07:16

Some peaceful protesting going on here. Man that MSP must be one good scam.

https://youtu.be/5eDX9qmmHvk?t=758

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 Jan 2021 08:12

It started with MSP now it is a war against Hindus and the Union of India, no different than how anti-CAA started and quickly turned into "Hindutwa ki kabhr khudegi" slogans.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 27 Jan 2021 08:19

It is now clear as nation we do not have strategic thinking and have fallen for BIF strategies and explains a 1000 years of defeats, deals for short term gains for outsiders, we need to keep working hard have strategic thinking, but far too much of Resident and NRI population who lazy, entitled and hence cunning can be easily influenced.

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 27 Jan 2021 08:39

i stay in punjab and there is no real traction for khalistan... except for some loonies. i think the so called 'farmers' have played into govts hand and the agitation stands discredited big time. how the govt handles it from here onwards will be interesting to see. now the danda should be wielded big time.

RajaRudra · Post by **RajaRudra** » 27 Jan 2021 09:11

Not a single tractor, car, any vehicles should be allowed to return. To start with, land records of every one protesting should be recorded and farming should not be allowed in those fields for 5 years.
Let the cost for this kalistanis be made high.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 27 Jan 2021 09:22

No, no danda. Except ordinary policing and charges. Let’s not play into their politics.

I don’t think Hindus in India realize it yet, but I can see how people who call themselves minorities may be in great fear of ‘just retribution’.

Compare the wealth, infrastructure, technology, worldliness and military capability now and 20-30 years ago. Look at the Indian relationship with the US or even with the Gulf countries. The quiet confidence with China. What Hindus have done is to make explicit that they will arrive big time 10-15 years from now. I am confident.

People need to get what they can now from Hindus, later it won’t be possible.

Pakistan is dead. All that awaits is a quiet burial. Kashmir is history, at least for now. Even in India I see the willingness to ask some very pertinent questions eg southies are questioning the conversion industry. And not just Hindus. Christians themselves are beginning to do some introspection. Goans are talking about seeking an apology from the Pope.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 27 Jan 2021 09:32

Ok history is being rewritten again. This guy Deep Sidhu is being blamed for the violence and as reports being pulled out he is related to Sunny Deol and BJP. There is even some pictures of him posted with Modi. It's pretty insidious and now again the blame is being targeted towards Yindoo RSS and BJP.

Wikipedia is already updated to reflect this fake news.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 Jan 2021 09:35

RajaRudra wrote:Not a single tractor, car, any vehicles should be allowed to return. To start with, land records of every one protesting should be recorded and farming should not be allowed in those fields for 5 years.
Let the cost for this kalistanis be made high.

That is not practical and we all know it. However what is practical and doable is (a) Quietly without making too much noise distribute MSP evenly and delay MSP purchases from Punjab and (b) Double the effort to go after INC in MH and KAR, create fissures, weaken the bloody ecosystem. I really really hope the next 3 yrs the government will work on cleaning up the bureaucracy, reduce corruption, improve the quality of life within existing laws. Yes, major reforms are needed but many reforms can be brought in without ushering new laws every few months especially since the implementation of these laws themselves seems to take forever.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 27 Jan 2021 09:36

The most demoralized demographic is the exclusionist Muslim. He has lost moral parity with the Indian state as Pakistan, his benefactor, has imploded in an orgy of killings, of mostly Muslims. The oil kingdoms are giving Modi, of all people, accolades. They are investing 10s of billions of dollars in the Indian economy, with Modi of all people.

Al the while their mullahs and politics have kept them the poorest and most illiterate demographic in the country.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 Jan 2021 09:37

vimal wrote:Ok history is being rewritten again. This guy Deep Sidhu is being blamed for the violence and as reports being pulled out he is related to Sunny Deol and BJP. There is even some pictures of him posted with Modi. It's pretty insidious and now again the blame is being targeted towards Yindoo RSS and BJP.

Wikipedia is already updated to reflect this fake news.

Nothing new there. Even since his comical interview with Burqa Dutt where she time and again tried bringing him back to the script but he kept harping about Bhindranwala/Khalistan the liberal twiterati has been trying to drum up his ties to Sunny Deol campaign. No one outside the liberal echo chamber will buy this "RSS/BJP ki saazish" after yesterday.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 Jan 2021 09:41

sanjaykumar wrote:The most demoralized demographic is the exclusionist Muslim. He has lost moral parity with the Indian state as Pakistan, his benefactor, has imploded in an orgy of killings, of mostly Muslims. The oil kingdoms are giving Modi, of all people, accolades. They are investing 10s of billions of dollars in the Indian economy, with Modi of all people.

Al the while their mullahs and politics have kept them the poorest and most illiterate demographic in the country.

We need to explore the last line thoroughly on its long term strategic implications. Electrification of vehicles will continue, demand for oil will fall, there will be political turmoil and realignment in the middle east. The gulf wont need or wont be able to soak up millions of workers from Asia and Africa this decade and the next. This will have implications on economies of Kerala, TN and to some extent coastal Karnataka. How will these mostly muslim youth from these region readjust will be interesting to watch not to mention the security challenges they may pose.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 27 Jan 2021 09:42

In short Sikhs Muslims Naxals professional left liberal types (nothing liberal about them) find themselves to be soon like communists in the US. Or as nervous as the who re in church. The old woman amongst the christians in Salem etc.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 27 Jan 2021 10:38

Unbridled greed brought down the Sikh empire. Read the history of Anglo-Sikh War to understand the downfall.

https://twitter.com/HerrBains/status/13 ... 48896?s=20

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 27 Jan 2021 10:43

The ethnic cleansing of Punjabi Hindus from rural Punjab is 3 times the number of evicted Kash Pandits - the secular state does not care about Hindus - but Sangh Parivar , believes in dharmic unity and is activated only if the enemy is an abrahamist

https://twitter.com/Sudharshan32/status ... 21441?s=20

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 27 Jan 2021 10:51

https://twitter.com/Hiranyareta/status/ ... 41542?s=20 --- The #RepublicDay2021 made the options crystal clear to India. On one side is the #HampiVijayaNagara and #ValmikiAyodhyaRamMandir and associated Armed Forces parade. On other side the #KhalistaniTerror and #KashmirTerror templates and associated #UrbanNaxals parade.

https://twitter.com/KaivalyaVishwa1/sta ... 21313?s=20 ----- whats role of congress ecosystem of sekoolar savarnas in amplifying these BIF voices? without crucial logistical support from congoon mafia, can these BIF be this much of threat ?

https://twitter.com/Hiranyareta/status/ ... 3621?s=20v ----- Sikhs (including Khalistanis) are just Chutiya cannon fodder being used by the Congress ecosystem of Sekoolar-Savarnas. What happened today has Congressi Sekoolar-Savarna Neechta written all over it.

Santosh · Post by **Santosh** » 27 Jan 2021 10:55

Ideally we would all like to see Delhi police treat the khalistanis similar to how Yogi treated CAA terrorists in UP. Make them pay. Not sure how much of it needs Delhi govt approval. If possible file charges in Haryana and UP and make them pay. As soon as the bills hit, their senses will be back.

Sonugn · Post by **Sonugn** » 27 Jan 2021 11:42

March to parliament planned on Feb 1.

Get ready for round 2.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 27 Jan 2021 13:05

Sonugn wrote:March to parliament planned on Feb 1.

Get ready for round 2.

Not sure there can be anything Chanakian in letting this play out..

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 27 Jan 2021 13:19

When "minorities" are hoisting their flags on national monuments, what incentive Hindu society is left with to keep this nation "secular" ? Think about this today.

https://twitter.com/DivyaSoti/status/13 ... 05056?s=20

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 Jan 2021 13:52

Sonugn wrote:March to parliament planned on Feb 1.

After doing their bit of damage the farmer broker gang would now change the tactic. The first gimmick is to 'dissasociate' from the violence. Next is to some how try to prove that the Red Fort hooligans were BJP folks or pro-BJP Sikhs. These two activities have already started. With the violence part done, now most likely the regular political outfits would now take over. Now it will be folks like Hanan Mollah and some other commies from Kerala who would lead the show, and the farmer broker gang retreating to Punjab after their round of machoism. The good part is that if commies are now taking this up, rest assured the farm laws are here to stay

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Ambar wrote:Nothing new there. Even since his comical interview with Burqa Dutt where she time and again tried bringing him back to the script but he kept harping about Bhindranwala/Khalistan the liberal twiterati has been trying to drum up his ties to Sunny Deol campaign.

"Communals" have already identified earlier news reports in which Deep Sidhu was show cased as a person moving away from BJP because of the farming laws

. And now they change tune and say that Deep Sidhu is part of the BJP.

Quietly without making too much noise distribute MSP evenly and delay MSP purchases from Punjab

This is actually a 'low hanging fruit' which can be done without much fan fare. Central Govt should revise the procurement strategy of FCI, and if there are corrupt babus who still behave the old way, get them moved out. And then clearly say that the government is for all the farmers, cutting across the states so FCI will procure the grains from all across India. I don't know how much truth is there in it; but it seems the new farm laws were passed as Ordinances around 5-6 months back. And the farmer broker gang really saw their business taking a hit. And it is after that they decided to create L&O issues.

manjgu wrote:i think the so called 'farmers' have played into govts hand and the agitation stands discredited big time.

Rakesh Tikait also stands exposed as he instructed the protestors to be armed with sticks. And this fellow is now trying to weasel out by saying they did not support violence etc.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2021 15:08

gleeful aapi randi politicos on exuberant runditeevee

the paapi party had arranged close to 90 ambulances in advance from punjab hoping that massive violence would occur.

if that is not criminal premeditation and complicity, then what is

"Regrettable... Centre Allowed Situation To Deteriorate": AAP On Delhi Clashes

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/farmers ... es-2358368

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Jan 2021 15:33

See I still hold out hope. Shock-n-awe surgical-strikes and balakot wale both came several days after Uri and Pulwama respectively. So there is a sliver of hope (won't dare to hope more than that anyway).

Sadly, shock and awe don't work within Desh on turds who are nominally Indians, so modi sarkar's sarkari reaction will be sarkari and underwhelming. #TheekHai. As long as the perps are punished, it all ends well. But will it?

But the news recently that the vardi wale turds in BH pulis responsible for the munger massacre are all back on duty with nary even a slap on the wrist is somehow heartbreaking only. Sigh.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2021 15:42

is this too right wing for our delicate Hindu sensibilities

should this right be given up because the Hindu's are sickular

will this offend the mollycoddled and rapacious "minorities"

or is this simply too "nationalist" to even consider

or is this majoritarianism as defined by our self declared "minorities" who, BTW, are not defined as "minorities", or given such status anywhere else in the whole wide world

where exactly is "minority" defined in the Indian constitution

and this is exactly how the country buggered up the republic day, after they did shaheenbagh.

next to "revolt" will be the dalits who already have an army, are funded by the very same BIF and have been accumulating arms for the past many years.

How many more lessons do we need to learn

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2021 16:06

This is how the narrative is being sought to be changed

read carefully

not so subtle, but sly, slick and slimy

these are all vantage seeking, high profile maintaining points persons desperately looking for parliament seats via RS nomination

The first six words are what's being test marketed.

The rest is window dressing.

via@onlinecolloquy

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 27 Jan 2021 16:42

A friend has just forwarded a video from New York yesterday showing Khalistani organised car rally slowing down traffic.
I don't know how to post it??
Anyone from Khandesh aware of this and if they can post!!

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 27 Jan 2021 17:04

Khalistanis vandalised Indian embassy in Italy.
https://zeenews.india.com/india/india-e ... 38019.html

Despite raising concerns why did their police not prevent such a incident? Despite grave provocations Indian police will never let Indians vandalise the Chinese or even the Pakis embassy.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 27 Jan 2021 17:26

Seems 2 unions have backed out of the protests

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 27 Jan 2021 18:21

Weakness in the union is a perfect timing for govt./NIA to quickly bring some arrest warrants. Divide and quash this protest nonsense. Chances of violence are low. These people were allowed to go back their criminal base camp is irritating.

ANI UP: The Bharatiya Kisan Union (Bhanu), which has been sitting on protest at Chilla border also decided to call-off their protest on Wednesday.

Khalistanis vandalised Indian embassy in Italy.
https://zeenews.india.com/india/india-e ... 38019.html

Despite raising concerns why did their police not prevent such a incident? Despite grave provocations Indian police will never let Indians vandalise the Chinese or even the Pakis embassy.

I had posted a DW documentary a while back on the plight of Sikh farm workers in Italy. Long working hours, poor living conditions, and almost slavery type working environment under Italian mafia. Duplicility of these khali daugs should be brought out in open. At least some media coverage at the least. Wish someone brings this out from govt. affiliated sections, so the info is out.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 27 Jan 2021 18:41

chetak wrote: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/farmers ... es-2358368

chetak ji while i agree with you, may i request you to please not insult the cuss words...by bringing NDTV ...

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 Jan 2021 18:46

Tanaji wrote:Seems 2 unions have backed out of the protests

chanakyaa wrote:Weakness in the union is a perfect timing for govt./NIA to quickly bring some arrest warrants. Divide and quash this protest nonsense.

Two unions has indeed backed out, but their roles in the riots still needs to be investigated. Use this time to cause maximum confusion among them, and encourage them to backstab each other. 'Dilli Pulis'have already taken in 200 into custody and now it is time to take the juice (of information) from them. As I said earlier; this program if it gets continued would be mainly by the commies; whose presence in Northern India is next to nil.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 27 Jan 2021 18:55

Opindia

https://www.opindia.com/2021/01/delhi-p ... ed-so-far/

Delhi Police register FIRs against ‘farmer leaders’ including Yogendra Yadav, Rakesh Tikait and others, attempt to murder charge filed
The Delhi Police have stated that the case of the violence at Red Fort will be investigated by the Crime Branch. Cases have been filed under dacoity (section 395), 397 (robbery, or dacoity, with an attempt to cause death or grievous hurt), 120 b (punishment of criminal conspiracy), and other sections.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 Jan 2021 18:58

chanakyaa wrote:n the plight of Sikh farm workers in Italy. Long working hours, poor living conditions, and almost slavery type working environment under Italian mafia. Duplicility of these khali daugs should be brought out in open. At least some media coverage at the least. Wish someone brings this out from govt. affiliated sections, so the info is out.

Not just in Italy but in US and Canada too. Until 2009 Indians made up a very small percentage of those living illegally in the US, but since then Indian citizens make up the 4th largest group of illegal immigrants to the US and the largest outside South America. Almost 9 out of 10 illegals from India are from Punjab, yes, the same "farmers" who never fail to profess their love for their land but sell their farms at the first opportunity to pay Mexican cartels to cross the border into the US. There is a network of support groups who help these illegals settle in the states and SJW is one among many organizations which provides everything from food to temporary employment . The irony is while being forced to live in subhuman conditions in north America and most of the time abused and illtreated by their own, these are also the same folks who never miss an opportunity to shout "India murdabaad, Khalistan Pakistan zindabad" outside Indian consulates.

Shaktimaan · Post by **Shaktimaan** » 27 Jan 2021 19:41

Why is it, that whenever there is civil disturbance and rioting, this fellow YoYa is always around? What is his nefarious connection with danga-fasaad?

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 Jan 2021 19:51

YoYa is a clown and a cheerleader for all commie-urban naxal-khalistan-pakistan forces, so if they are rioting and protesting then he will insert himself into it for his 10 minutes of limelight. He couldn't even last in AAP, a den of urban naxals, so the guy isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the chandelier nor a clever politician nor someone with any clout.

Speaking of "jokers in the pack" whatever may be Modi's shortcomings he has the uncanny ability to see through people. From Yashwant Sinha to Arun Shourie to Madhu Kishwar to Xiaomi Swamy he kept them all an arm's length away and it didn't take long for the turncoat charlatans to show their true colors. After inserting himself into everything from Balakot to Galwan to Sushant Singh to NEET exams, super snake Swamy's latest imaginary salad has the PMO orchestrating the siege on the Delhi Red Fort. Nothing is more pathetic than seeing an elderly person throw away their legacy at the altar of their ego, it is even more pathetic when the person is someone like Su Swamy whose legacy is routinely losing deposits in elections and his greatest achievement a 5 month stint as a finance minister and bringing down a government .

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2021 19:57

Shaktimaan wrote:Why is it, that whenever there is civil disturbance and rioting, this fellow YoYa is always around? What is his nefarious connection with danga-fasaad?

this fraud uncle yoya is after the BIF accolade, the magsaysay award and a parliament seat from any safe constituency is what is after

currently and opportunistically, he has hitched his faded star to the commies and naxals in punjab, haryana after scammer khujliwal kicked him out of aap for trying to scam the scammer.

khujliwal himself is after a punjab seat he can become the CM there.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 27 Jan 2021 19:58

+108 @Ambar-ji. Atrocities against Sikhs, sadly, can't happen without the blessing/nod of the shady establishment in those countries, which can be pursed by existing laws/regulations in those countries. But it needs to start somewhere. Fortunately, there is lot of evidence suggests that such legal course of action, however difficult, can get traction by establishing/building precedent. EU/Italy is the best place to start. After all, they are champions of Hooman rights, no??

Sonia-ji whose heart bleeds for Sikhs should help GoI improve the lives of Sikh farmers in Italy with her connections in Italy, else she would face additional backlash in elections. I'll stop here, before going seriously OT.

habal · Post by **habal** » 27 Jan 2021 20:10

this govt is a national embarassment, with just an ocassional fleeting moments of glory in taking on Chinese etc. Total mismanagement of farmers just going by optics alone, leaving them high & dry to fend for themselves in cold, inclement, rainy whether outdoors for more than 60 days is inhuman. So many gestures could have been made even if some of them were a bunch of khalistani-friendly lumpens like govt langars, loan melas at site, govt ministers addressing/hugging farmers at site etc. Totally ignored them and in meanwhile kept increasing fuel prices like clockwork so that even those who were profeessedly neutral in this whole issue would side with the protestors until they became openly khalistani.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2021 20:16

never truer than in India where for seventy odd years the majority have tolerated riots and open insurrection by the so called "minorities" and now the time has come for the Hindu's to realize that the violence against them is growing ever larger as the BIF have started to smell the blood in the water.

greatde · Post by **greatde** » 27 Jan 2021 20:23

Yesterday, the government showed it's tolerance, and that should be appreciated. Yet, this create "Kashmir" all over India, is the template and looming threat. I am not sure how the government can really deal with it.

The immediate thing would be to create "pressure points", so the government has to bring its own powerful domestic terrorism bills. They could use the USA template. At the end of day, democracy works for those who can create pressure and force the governments to their demands, or standstill...

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2021 20:32

greatde wrote:Yesterday, the government showed it's tolerance, and that should be appreciated. Yet, this create "Kashmir" all over India, is the template and looming threat. I am not sure how the government can really deal with it.

The immediate thing would be to create "pressure points", so the government has to bring its own powerful domestic terrorism bills. They could use the USA template. At the end of day, democracy works for those who can create pressure and force the governments to their demands, or standstill...

we forget: The root cause of the semitic aggression and uncompromising attitude in India is based on the aim of conversion, separation, and breakup.

the FCRA, CAA and the coming UCC is a big hurdle for these desert cults.

"Ideological aggression, if not resisted in proper time, leads invariably to physical aggression." ~ Sitaram Goel