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shravanp wrote:Important event

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Varanasi court allows excavation by ASI at Kashi Vishwanath Temple and Gyanvapi Masjid

A Varanasi court has ruled in favor of excavation by the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) at Varanasi's Kashi Vishwanath Temple and the adjacent Gyanvapi Masjid. The ASI is likely to set up a five-member team that will visit the campus soon.

A petition was filed in December 2019 by advocate Vijay Shankar Rastogi on behalf of Swayambhu Jyotirlinga Bhagwan Vishweshwar in the court of civil judge. The petitioner requested for a survey of the entire Gyanvapi compound by the ASI. He had filed the petition as the 'next friend' of Swayambhu Jyotirlinga Bhagwan Vishweshwar. In January 2020, Anjuman Intezamia Masjid Committee had filed an objection against the petition.

The petitioner had contended that the Kashi Vishwanath temple was built by Maharaja Vikramaditya about 2,050 years ago, but Mughal emperor Aurangzeb destroyed the temple in 1664 and used its remains to construct a mosque, which is known as Gyanvapi masjid, on a portion of the temple land. The petitioner requested the court to issue directions for the removal of the mosque from the temple land and give back its possession to the temple trust.
This should be an easy open&shut case. Should certainly be easier than RJB
Not really , The AIMPB has clearly stated that even if remains of temple are found under the Masjid, it cannot be touched and its status as Masjid is protected under a law - "places of worship act" passed in 1991 by the Congress.
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How can we apply an act restrospectively? This might be possible in 1991 but not current.
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kvraghav wrote:How can we apply an act restrospectively? This might be possible in 1991 but not current.
parliament has the power to make and also unmake

this law was demanded by the muslims and passed by the congis as a way out of the mess and this was also a credible via media to retain a lot of their minority vote banks.
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Vote banks and screwing, yes. But getting out of the mess, no. There was no mess that congis were getting out of. All intentional and with anti Hindu strategy from 1947. All orchestrated as 1947 and direct action day threats and sold to Hindus that we need to do this. congis decided to kick Hindus like a street dog and serve muslims masters. No such thing as landing in a mess.
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darshan wrote:Vote banks and screwing, yes. But getting out of the mess, no. There was no mess that congis were getting out of. All intentional and with anti Hindu strategy from 1947. All orchestrated as 1947 and direct action day threats and sold to Hindus that we need to do this. congis decided to kick Hindus like a street dog and serve muslims masters. No such thing as landing in a mess.

It's called plausible denial and that is what the congis tried to do
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parliament has the power to make and also unmake

this law was demanded by the muslims and passed by the congis as a way out of the mess and this was also a credible via media to retain a lot of their minority vote banks.
That may well have been the case when the law was passed (PVNR government), but the SC judgement on the RJB case has elevated this to being a part of the fundamental doctrine of the constitution... so beyond legislative purview as per Keshavananda Bharti case... cannot be amended now
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Hours after starting it, Punjab's 'arhtiyas' withdraw strike against state government
A few hours after going on a state-wide strike against the Punjab government's decision to follow the Centre's direction to transfer the farmers' crop MSP directly to their bank accounts, 'arhtiyas' on Saturday withdrew their strike. The arhtiyas or commission agents withdrew their strike after Punjab Chief Minister Amarinder Singh assured them that they would remain an integral part of the procurement system.

Earlier on the day, around 40,000 'arhtiyas across the state had gone on strike to protest against the direct benefit transfer (DBT) of the minimum support price (MSP) to farmers for their crops, bypassing them.
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Teeka Utsav: NDA-ruled states gear up to double inoculations, Opposition hesitant
Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s call for a Teeka Utsav (vaccine festival) between April 11 and 14 has got BJP states ramping up their efforts to double inoculations but has met with hesitancy from non-BJP states, which are saying they will scale up only when they have sufficient supplies in their stock.

The Centre, for its part, has assured that it will seek to maintain a supply line of 4 to 8 days
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Adrija wrote:
parliament has the power to make and also unmake

this law was demanded by the muslims and passed by the congis as a way out of the mess and this was also a credible via media to retain a lot of their minority vote banks.
That may well have been the case when the law was passed (PVNR government), but the SC judgement on the RJB case has elevated this to being a part of the fundamental doctrine of the constitution... so beyond legislative purview as per Keshavananda Bharti case... cannot be amended now
The SC interprets laws, cannot make them. The parliament which the NDA controls now can pass a new law, amend the old one and do whatever is needed. Of course there will be a hue and cry from the usual suspects but if Modi wants it done, it will be done, as we have seen with everything else.

It will then be up to us, the Hindus, to make sure that there is no rioting against it, no Shaheen Baghs and such.

When, not if, this passes, it will pave the way for Mathura and so many others, including Sidhpur. I can't wait to see what that place will reveal once fully excavated.

It is only a matter of time. This may become a rallying cry for those asleep for centuries, like WB seems to have become.

Har Har Mahadev!
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chetak wrote:
kvraghav wrote:How can we apply an act restrospectively? This might be possible in 1991 but not current.
parliament has the power to make and also unmake

this law was demanded by the muslims and passed by the congis as a way out of the mess and this was also a credible via media to retain a lot of their minority vote banks.

Yes, I don't think that any laws are immutable and divine like verses from the Q-book. Anything can be changed by Parliament. If Indiramma can tamper with the constitution by adding "secular", Modiji can take it out also. The question is, is it worth it and are there other things to do.
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That video interview between Karan Thapar and Sanjaya Baru is very enlightenting in that it shows how these "lutyens" tools ran the country for so long -- the lament from the two that the current PMO has no one from Doon School or St. Stephens or "pedigree" from Poxford or Slimy League US universities like Harvard is very telling. A small cabal from doon school and st. stephens was always in control right from the PM's office when the INC was in charge. They sent their kids to foreign universities on the strength of high-powered references and then they get plum positions in Indian and Foreign media where they spit on all things Indian, so they can retain control of the country by installing some Nehru clan moron,while the babucracy takes care of all the "little details" that allowed politicians and babus to loot the country without oversight. The Varadarajan brothers ("Tunku" and "Sid"), Sadanand Dhume, Savugrakki Ghose and Turdesai got into Columbia Journalism or Woodrow WIlson International School with references from mummy and daddy's IFS babu friends in New Delhi that pretty much ran the country, when traitorous morons like Rajiv Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi headed the INC, which owned the country. Not going to be any different if the Nehru dynasts get back into power, thankfully we have Rahul Gandhi guarding the nation from such an eventuality.

Baru's book mentions an incident where Sonia basically overrode Manmohan Singh when he was PM, and got underlings to bypass the PMO and hand over official documents directly to her/Ahmed Patel, and that worthless doormat MMS's reaction was to be "very sad and upset".
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Primus wrote: The SC interprets laws, cannot make them.
You are joking right? Where in constitution/law is basic structure doctrine or collegium mentioned. Judiciary invented these on its own 50 years ago. It rejected a constitutional amendment (NJAC) duly passed by parliament and states using this doctrine. Unelected Indian SC is final authority in India, no one else has so much power, neither the parliament nor the executive. It can make any law/constitutional amendment as it sees fit. Sadly, there is no easy way to fix it through constitutional means, since SC will block it.
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theoretically, judges from supreme court can also be removed , isnt it ?
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Dr Praveen Patil @5Forty3

Phenomenal! BJPs SC vote-share in Bengal is now touching almost 84%.

This has never happened anywhere in India's electoral history. No, not even BSP came close to consolidating so many Dalit votes in UP during the peak of Mayawati's political heydays!
I think the whole BIF focus will be how to make RSS anti-Dalit narrative stick for next 3 years
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Lakhs of Muslims gather in Bareilly after Friday prayers demanding arrest, beheading of Yati Narsinghanand Saraswati
https://www.opindia.com/2021/04/lakhs-o ... -bareilly/
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What is stopping the government or at least the states in BJP governed states to ban the Loud speaker/Azaan menace which disturbs sleep of crores of Indians every day? Even some lower courts have given judgement against it.
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Suraj wrote:
chetak wrote:
whatsapp......

So corporates are bad for 'farmers' but good for vaccinations.

What am I missing?
If Tehseen took a bijness class flight to Los Angeles or San Francisco to get vaccinated by param poojya Pfizer/Moderna/JJ vaccine she'll be in for a rude shock. She doesn't qualify. There's no Cowin like site that lets you reliably register. The existing site is buggy and everyone knows it. Even a reliable provider like Costco has a website that is broken. What you instead do is search every pharmacy/medical provider, make dozens of calls etc. If she finds something, even if she tries to trick the system by claiming she's an essential worker, she will find a waiting list that may be days/weeks long. Or she can drive 3-8hrs to rural California to find a location where they're not seriously checking eligibility. I am not kidding - people are literally driving from San Francisco to near Bakersfield (~450km each way) to get a vaccine.
At any age, if she stated she has a co-morbidity like asthma, she would get the vaccine. At least in CA. No need for a doctor’s note or anything like that. They just take your word for it.
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vijayk wrote:Actually he wrote Accidental PM on MMS. He was hoping people like him will be courted by Modi but never got the call.
Many such aspirants. All “good english” TFTA types who thought Modi would be lost in Dilli and they could land s cushy job guiding Modi through the Angloverse.

Shiv Vishvanathan and Tavleen Singh spring to mind.
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arshyam wrote:Sanajaya Baru was part of the old elite due to connections built through his bureaucrat father. That's of no use these days, hence the pique. Though his books about PVNR were quite objective and didn't carry anything for the famiglia, he is still more inclined towards the old guard. I wouldn't equate him with Thappad though, who is a whole different specimen altogether when carrying a can for the famiglia, given his family's chequered history in '62 and subsequent undeserved rehabilitation.

Now, I haven't listened to the clip, nor do I intend to, unless folks here strongly recommend it. I cannot listen Thappad beyond a few mins. But looking at the headline, I wonder if these gentlemen realize the irony of their statement, i.e. "protecting India's social unity is not important to them". By not appealing to a single caste and instead to a unified pan-Hindu and a pan-Indian identity, it is the BJP that's improving India's social unity, while the old congi ecosystem was built on stilts of caste, linguistic groups and communal policies aimed at one religious group or the other. In a manner of speaking, these gentlemen are following the age-old leftist dictum of propaganda - whatever you do, accuse the other other guy of actually doing it. Hence, this spin on social unity :lol:
By “social unity” these people mean the Mughal-era alliance with Muslim ashrafs as senior partner and Hindu feudals as junior partner.
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KLNMurthy wrote:
vijayk wrote:Actually he wrote Accidental PM on MMS. He was hoping people like him will be courted by Modi but never got the call.
Many such aspirants. All “good english” TFTA types who thought Modi would be lost in Dilli and they could land s cushy job guiding Modi through the Angloverse.

Shiv Vishvanathan and Tavleen Singh spring to mind.
Gadhanad Dhume & Rupa Subramanian ...

These scums are the lowest of low lifes.
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sivab wrote:
Primus wrote: The SC interprets laws, cannot make them.
You are joking right? Where in constitution/law is basic structure doctrine or collegium mentioned. Judiciary invented these on its own 50 years ago. It rejected a constitutional amendment (NJAC) duly passed by parliament and states using this doctrine. Unelected Indian SC is final authority in India, no one else has so much power, neither the parliament nor the executive. It can make any law/constitutional amendment as it sees fit. Sadly, there is no easy way to fix it through constitutional means, since SC will block it.
Actually, it's precisely because the collegium or the basic structure is not written in the constitution that they can be bypassed and even done away with. The written constitution is clear that the Parliament is supreme and has oversight over the appointment of judges. The SC may imagine to be amending the constitution by introducing concepts like basic structure, etc., but in reality, it cannot pass any constitutional amendment as that's the sole prerogative of the Parliament. So legally speaking, these concepts are standing on a very weak foundation. It's just that no govt so far has wanted to challenge it and get into a confrontation with the judiciary.
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arshyam wrote:
sivab wrote:
You are joking right? Where in constitution/law is basic structure doctrine or collegium mentioned. Judiciary invented these on its own 50 years ago. It rejected a constitutional amendment (NJAC) duly passed by parliament and states using this doctrine. Unelected Indian SC is final authority in India, no one else has so much power, neither the parliament nor the executive. It can make any law/constitutional amendment as it sees fit. Sadly, there is no easy way to fix it through constitutional means, since SC will block it.
Actually, it's precisely because the collegium or the basic structure is not written in the constitution that they can be bypassed and even done away with. The written constitution is clear that the Parliament is supreme and has oversight over the appointment of judges. The SC may imagine to be amending the constitution by introducing concepts like basic structure, etc., but in reality, it cannot pass any constitutional amendment as that's the sole prerogative of the Parliament. So legally speaking, these concepts are standing on a very weak foundation. It's just that no govt so far has wanted to challenge it and get into a confrontation with the judiciary.
True ...
It is just the corrupt politicians were afraid of the judiciary. When Indira Gandhi was mired in total corruption, judges interpreted independence means they will nominate on their own and the cabinet just stamps it.
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Another good interview
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https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... ssion=true
News from IE. The modus operandi for securing farmers' loan repayment is revealed. Punjab Government will send SMS alert to Arthiyas as soon as money is credited into the farmers' bank account!
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arshyam wrote: The written constitution is clear that the Parliament is supreme and has oversight over the appointment of judges.
Unfortunately that is not true. There is extensive constitutional assembly debates on this. Ambedkar/drafters reasoning is that since executive will have majority in the parliament (else will lose power), no point in giving power to parliament and since Judiciary needs to be independent, they gave power to judiciary itself and president (executive) (see Article 124, section 2). So constitution of India is screwed up. Parliament has no role in appointment of judges, it can only impeach. Only president of India (read executive) in consultation with CJI has a role in this. SC hijacked "consultation" to exclusive ownership through basic structure/collegium. NJAC tried to change this and was blocked by SC. As of now if you look at current constitution per GoI website, NJAC is appointing authority, but SC blocked it. So original version stands till GoI appeals SC ruling to larger bench. SC will block again. Even Rajiv Gandhi with his super majority didn't attempt to change basic structure doctrine since that will lead to constitutional deadlock/breakdown. Parliament will need to bite the bullet, impeach few SC judges who block to make this work. It is not easy since opposition will not support, so some party will need super majority.

Here is article 124 section 2 of constitution of India (original):
Every Judge of the Supreme Court shall be
appointed by the President by warrant under his hand
and seal after consultation with such of the Judges
of the Supreme Court and of the High Courts in the
States as the President may deem necessary for thee
purpose and shall hold office until he attains the
age of sixty five years:

Provided that in the case of appointment of
a Judge other than the Chief Justice, the Chief
Justice of India shall always be consulted
https://legislative.gov.in/sites/defaul ... /COI_1.pdf

Current version of article 124 section 2:
Every Judge of the Supreme Court shall be appointed by the President by warrant under his hand and
seal (3) [on the recommendation of the National Judicial Appointments Commission referred to in article
124A] and shall hold office until he attains the age of sixty-five years

Note 3: Subs. by the Constitution (Ninety-ninth Amendment) Act, 2014, s. 2, for ―after consultation with such of the Judges of the
Supreme Court and of the High Courts in the States as the President may deem necessary for that purpose‖ (w.e.f. 13-4-2015).
This amendment has been struck down by the Supreme Court vide its order dated the 16th October, 2015 in the Supreme Court
Advocates-on-Record Association and Another Vs. Union of India reported in AIR 2016 SC 117
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arshyam wrote:
sivab wrote:
You are joking right? Where in constitution/law is basic structure doctrine or collegium mentioned. Judiciary invented these on its own 50 years ago. It rejected a constitutional amendment (NJAC) duly passed by parliament and states using this doctrine. Unelected Indian SC is final authority in India, no one else has so much power, neither the parliament nor the executive. It can make any law/constitutional amendment as it sees fit. Sadly, there is no easy way to fix it through constitutional means, since SC will block it.
Actually, it's precisely because the collegium or the basic structure is not written in the constitution that they can be bypassed and even done away with. The written constitution is clear that the Parliament is supreme and has oversight over the appointment of judges. The SC may imagine to be amending the constitution by introducing concepts like basic structure, etc., but in reality, it cannot pass any constitutional amendment as that's the sole prerogative of the Parliament. So legally speaking, these concepts are standing on a very weak foundation. It's just that no govt so far has wanted to challenge it and get into a confrontation with the judiciary.
"basic structure of the constitution" is a cleverly constructed myth. The alleged immutable nature of this suddenly discovered beast lurking undiscovered in the constitution over all these decades was in overcompensation for their craven capitulation during the emergency days.

such a contrived concept exists nowhere in the world and the framers of our constitution were certainly more than likely to have discovered it much before and written it into the constitution as a safeguard

every line of the constitution is actually basic and immutable until one day it is amended by parliament and that new amended edifice becomes part of the basic structure.

can these guys ever order the army to take over the govt just to save "democracy" as interpreted by them. We have seen all too often that each guy has his own personal interpretation. just look at how a certain dilli judge operated in the 2G case, freeing all the dravidian goons who stole everything that they could get their hands on

If another personality like IG came along and did the dirty, these guys would be the very first to crawl, closely followed by the presstitutes and the lootyens liberandus

the collegium is another such contrived construct perpetrated solely for ensuring their unwarranted primacy over the legislative and a mechanism to supersede the will of the people, both of which go against the constitution as it was written and as it exists.
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Punjabs wheat contribution

If I'm not wrong, global wheat futures is less than Indian prices(msp). It actually costs less to import wheat from foreign markets. I think Tamil nadu imports wheat from Australian markets because sea port delivery is cheaper than truck delivery from north India.
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sivab wrote:
arshyam wrote: The written constitution is clear that the Parliament is supreme and has oversight over the appointment of judges.
Unfortunately that is not true. There is extensive constitutional assembly debates on this. Ambedkar/drafters reasoning is that since executive will have majority in the parliament (else will lose power), no point in giving power to parliament and since Judiciary needs to be independent, they gave power to judiciary itself and president (executive) (see Article 124, section 2). So constitution of India is screwed up. Parliament has no role in appointment of judges, it can only impeach. Only president of India (read executive) in consultation with CJI has a role in this. SC hijacked "consultation" to exclusive ownership through basic structure/collegium. NJAC tried to change this and was blocked by SC.
Thank you, I stand corrected. I was going by some recent reports (based on a hazy recollection) that some judges' appointment was held up (and denied?) due to some concerns expressed by the govt, which I took to mean the Parliament. It must have been the PM and cabinet instead. So the executive has oversight even in the current system, which seems wrong. No wonder the SC was able to justify the collegium and get away with it.

In that sense, the NJAC also did not change things too much, since it would be comprised of 3 judges (CJI + 2 judges next in line), and the govt's representation would have been reduced to the single seat of the law minister. The Parliament would have nominally got 2 seats through a committee for appointing the remaining two "eminent persons" to the NJAC. Nominally because this committee also had the CJI as a member, and Parliament's power here would have been expressed solely via the PM (who is an MP) and the LOP, who is another. I can see why the govt thought this was a good deal for the judiciary given the increased say they'll have with a formal structure backing it.

Maybe the govt should retry the NJAC with more say for Parliament as opposed to the executive, as that would be a better constitutional principle to hold up to. Adding another article (if one does not exist already) asserting the will of the people as supreme, and Parliament, due to it being an expression of said will, as the first among equals would add heft to such a change. But they'd need to find a way to not have the SC adjudicate this matter given that it is a vested party, otherwise they'd block it again. The very definition of conflict of interest.

One concern with such a change though is that we have a govt today that respects boundaries to a good extent, but that has always not been the case. So any such changes need to be worded carefully so that it cannot be misused by another Indira Gandhi, nor by a judiciary that crawled when asked to walk during the emergency. But I feel that even with some loopholes, having Parliamentary oversight would still be better than the current incestuous system where there is zero public oversight - the people of India, at the end of the day, have shown far greater maturity in voting out corrupt dispensations than they are given credit for. So, just like in the emergency, if a future autocrat gets a super-majority and messes with the constitution, we can trust the people to take some corrective actions the next time around. While that sounds like a cop out, it is actually the opposite - give power to the people to do what they want, when and how they want. Sometimes, it may be in the wrong direction, but they still have right to take the wrong direction if they want - that's the true essence of democracy. That's why I don't like this concept of the "basic structure" - the intent may be good, but the people should have the power to change something if they don't like/agree with. It's like giving the right to free speech, then curtailing it with "reasonable restrictions". As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The SC IMHO did a disservice to democracy by walling off a portion of a constitution without any authority to do so, and continues in that vein by retaining the authority to arbitrarily move any other laws as they see fit, without any recourse to review. This needs to stop.
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arshyam wrote:
sivab wrote:
Unfortunately that is not true. There is extensive constitutional assembly debates on this. Ambedkar/drafters reasoning is that since executive will have majority in the parliament (else will lose power), no point in giving power to parliament and since Judiciary needs to be independent, they gave power to judiciary itself and president (executive) (see Article 124, section 2). So constitution of India is screwed up. Parliament has no role in appointment of judges, it can only impeach. Only president of India (read executive) in consultation with CJI has a role in this. SC hijacked "consultation" to exclusive ownership through basic structure/collegium. NJAC tried to change this and was blocked by SC.
Thank you, I stand corrected. I was going by some recent reports (based on a hazy recollection) that some judges' appointment was held up (and denied?) due to some concerns expressed by the govt, which I took to mean the Parliament. It must have been the PM and cabinet instead. So the executive has oversight even in the current system, which seems wrong. No wonder the SC was able to justify the collegium and get away with it.

In that sense, the NJAC also did not change things too much, since it would be comprised of 3 judges (CJI + 2 judges next in line), and the govt's representation would have been reduced to the single seat of the law minister. The Parliament would have nominally got 2 seats through a committee for appointing the remaining two "eminent persons" to the NJAC. Nominally because this committee also had the CJI as a member, and Parliament's power here would have been expressed solely via the PM (who is an MP) and the LOP, who is another. I can see why the govt thought this was a good deal for the judiciary given the increased say they'll have with a formal structure backing it.

Maybe the govt should retry the NJAC with more say for Parliament as opposed to the executive, as that would be a better constitutional principle to hold up to. Adding another article (if one does not exist already) asserting the will of the people as supreme, and Parliament, due to it being an expression of said will, as the first among equals would add heft to such a change. But they'd need to find a way to not have the SC adjudicate this matter given that it is a vested party, otherwise they'd block it again. The very definition of conflict of interest.

One concern with such a change though is that we have a govt today that respects boundaries to a good extent, but that has always not been the case. So any such changes need to be worded carefully so that it cannot be misused by another Indira Gandhi, nor by a judiciary that crawled when asked to walk during the emergency. But I feel that even with some loopholes, having Parliamentary oversight would still be better than the current incestuous system where there is zero public oversight - the people of India, at the end of the day, have shown far greater maturity in voting out corrupt dispensations than they are given credit for. So, just like in the emergency, if a future autocrat gets a super-majority and messes with the constitution, we can trust the people to take some corrective actions the next time around. While that sounds like a cop out, it is actually the opposite - give power to the people to do what they want, when and how they want. Sometimes, it may be in the wrong direction, but they still have right to take the wrong direction if they want - that's the true essence of democracy. That's why I don't like this concept of the "basic structure" - the intent may be good, but the people should have the power to change something if they don't like/agree with. It's like giving the right to free speech, then curtailing it with "reasonable restrictions". As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The SC IMHO did a disservice to democracy by walling off a portion of a constitution without any authority to do so, and continues in that vein by retaining the authority to arbitrarily move any other laws as they see fit, without any recourse to review. This needs to stop.


sunday ho, ya monday, India ho, ya US

This is the factual position in a democracy.
BIDEN: "No amendment to the Constitution is absolute"
via@charliespiering

and the unspoken corollary is that: there is nothing in the constitution that is immune to amendment.


also,
SC hijacked "consultation" to exclusive ownership through basic structure/collegium. NJAC tried to change this and was blocked by SC.
reinterpretation has effectively changed the very character of the clause, thus upsetting the established balance between the parliament and the judiciary and disordered the ethos that is built into the constitution, thus diluting the very psyche of Indian democracy, as envisaged and enshrined in the constitution, by the constituent assembly

this can be reinstated by the will of the parliament to status quo ante and they have the right to do it
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chetak wrote:Image
fake news ... don't believe it
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vijayk wrote:
chetak wrote:Image
fake news ... don't believe it

No, it's not fake news.


Tamil Nadu NGOs see foreign funding dip by 90%

Tamil Nadu NGOs see foreign funding dip by 90%
Yogesh Kabirdoss | TNN | Apr 10, 2021, 11:23 IST


CHENNAI: Donations from abroad for NGOs in Tamil Nadu have dropped by 90%, pushing the state to fourth in the country in attracting funding under the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act (FCRA). This has adversely impacted activities of many groups largely dependent on such contributions, say activists.

TN has the most number of NGOs and associations registered under the FCRA in the country and 3,262 of the 6,485 NGOs eligible to receive funds are currently active.

Data furnished by the Union home ministry in the Rajya Sabha, a fortnight ago shows NGOs and associations in TN received more than Rs 2,000 crore for 2016-17, 2017-18 and 2018-19, second only to Delhi. This fell to Rs 219 crore in 2019-20. Data for 2019-20 was based on Annual Returns (ARs) filed on 16-03-2021, but an extension has been given till June this year.

Human rights activist Henri Tiphagne, executive director of People’s Watch, said funds received by TN NGOs are also used for various social activities across the nation. Asked if foreign funds to NGOs in TN for 2019-20 would match the previous years, he said, “I will not be surprised if this drops further in the coming years.” Tiphagne said his organisation used most of the foreign contributions for promoting human rights education in schools with government authorisation. The organisation’s FCRA bank account was suspended in 2016. “Local funds are not available for such activities as most of the CSR funds go to government oriented projects.”

Dr R Manivannan, professor and head of department of politics and public administration at University of Madras, said foreign contributions for NGOs in Tamil Nadu in 2019-20 was unlikely to touch the levels of past years. Pointing out that regulation was necessary for foreign contributions, he said, “But, the genuine work of NGOs should be appreciated.”

As per media reports, between 2014 and 2019, FCRA registration of more than 14,800 NGOs across the country including several in Tamil Nadu was cancelled. In 2019 alone more than 1,800 NGOs and academic institutes found violating laws were banned from receiving foreign funds, a media report added. Several NGOs executing religious and social work came under the scanner after the Centre tightened the screws.
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This is very true, as also of many hyped up restaurants, taking customers for a ride by serving the sizzle and not the steak

thats why there is very little support for these two industries on social media.

these guys are screaming for help from the govt but shortchanging and often ignoring their customers who are their mainstay.



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Hizzoners are clear they cannot judge specific contents of RoP book but have no qualms about judging hindu temple affairs. The PIL seems reasonable that kids are indoctrinated with these verses into terrorist acts ( misinterpreted allegedly) . Why didn't they step in atleast to correct the interpretation? Any legal experts who can shed some light?

https://www.opindia.com/2021/04/supreme ... rizvi/amp/
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you have to watch if you want to understand what neverwho and his mafia famiglia spawned over the years as "intelligentsia"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkUKUte2zt4


Modi Has Created a New Pro-Hindu Power Elite—Protecting India's Social Unity Not Important to Them'

An interview featuring Karan Thapar and Sanjaya Baru, two deracinated and entitled, erstwhile small time lootyens relics, desperately seeking relevance in Modi's India



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chetak wrote:This is very true, as also of many hyped up restaurants, taking customers for a ride by serving the sizzle and not the steak

thats why there is very little support for these two industries on social media.

these guys are screaming for help from the govt but shortchanging and often ignoring their customers who are their mainstay.

As we saw late last year, when things go back to normal they'll make up the losses and some more from the customers. That said the hotel industry (not restaurants), public transport industry (including taxi cabs) , malls and small commercial real estate are the worst hit and will take the longest to recover. The malls were suffering even before the pandemic due to retailer attrition, high maintenance cost and vacancies but now they are on dire straits now. Few malls are converting part of their property into office spaces. The other challenge facing these malls is India's rapid switch to online retail, it happened so quickly and has caught many brick and mortar retailers unprepared.

The small to medium office space realty companies are also struggling with vacant office space and re-negotiated leases. Unlike big brand name commercial real estate companies that are usually run by the underworld or politicians proxies, the small property companies are individual owned who have no powerful patronage. This is especially an issue in Bangalore, Pune, Hyderabad and Gurgaon where the entire small to medium sized commercial real estate ecosystem depends on IT companies, and many of these smaller IT companies have tasted the advantages of WFH. While big guys like accenture, IBM, Infy, Google etc are already planning to reopen their offices full time, many small IT shops have no such plans and there by hurting the landlords. Food good or bad there is no ways India can have something like PPP loans where billions of free money can be given to businesses with no expectation of getting it back .
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EU CAP (common agricultural policy)

Back in the pre internet days, when I still read newspapers and before I knew how anti-India they were.

I may still have the article... An international trade person was complaining that...

It was cheaper for a poor african to buy italian tinned tomatoes than to grow their own!
That is how distorted these so called free trade policies are.

The EU had butter mountains and wine lakes.... all to help poor european farmers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter_mountain
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sivab wrote:
Primus wrote: The SC interprets laws, cannot make them.
You are joking right? Where in constitution/law is basic structure doctrine or collegium mentioned. Judiciary invented these on its own 50 years ago. It rejected a constitutional amendment (NJAC) duly passed by parliament and states using this doctrine. Unelected Indian SC is final authority in India, no one else has so much power, neither the parliament nor the executive. It can make any law/constitutional amendment as it sees fit. Sadly, there is no easy way to fix it through constitutional means, since SC will block it.
OP was talking about regular "operations" of the SC: getting cases filed, and adjudicating them.

Collegium has nothing to with that. It is a peer committee of judges that decide about appointments of judges to their posts. If I understood correctly, Collegium is an implementation of the constitutional principle of independence of judiciary. I don't know the history but I am guessing that it was put in place after Indira Gandhi and emergency rule, during which she wily-nily appointed and removed judges as per her own convenience, supported by a brute majority in Parliament.
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vijayk wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote: Many such aspirants. All “good english” TFTA types who thought Modi would be lost in Dilli and they could land s cushy job guiding Modi through the Angloverse.

Shiv Vishvanathan and Tavleen Singh spring to mind.
Gadhanad Dhume & Rupa Subramanian ...

These scums are the lowest of low lifes.
I don't blame them for looking out for their own bread and butter. I blame aam abduls like us for not seeing it for what it is, and treating these people like some special gods (or super-powerful demons as the case may be), based only on their (often overstated) skill at stringing english sentences together.
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nandakumar wrote:https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... ssion=true
News from IE. The modus operandi for securing farmers' loan repayment is revealed. Punjab Government will send SMS alert to Arthiyas as soon as money is credited into the farmers' bank account!
Does it mean that the middlemen gave in? Or is the compromise to just keep giving them their cut, though they are not adding any value? Just like cut-money in Mamata's Bengal?
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