2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

[Rony]

@Koenraad_Elst

The impressive Christian breakthrough in Andhra & now in Panjab result from the missionaries' single-minded pursuit of victory in the battle for souls. They know what they want & do what it takes. They invest in whom/whatever contributes to victory. Hindus have other priorities.

[Vayutuvan]

Took me a few moments to figure out "celestial dancer" but then .

The name is more of an apabhramsha of maNika, not of the "celestial dancer" sent by dEvEndra to distract creator of trishanku swarga.

maNika = A sliver of diamond

[ramana]

Urban never vote for BJP while enjoying the benefits of a rising economy, stock market, lower taxes. Either vote against BJP or sit at home. However, it's the rural that votes for BJP and they are solidly with NaMo. And Lakhimpur has shown what happens to poor Brahmins, SC and ST if YAN is not in power. They will get TMC treatment.

[ramana]

SuSwa is like Iago in Othello.
Just a villain for villainy's sake.

He is in a state of shock at being dropped.

[KL Dubey]

Took me a few moments to figure out "celestial dancer" but then .

The name is more of an apabhramsha of maNika, not of the "celestial dancer" sent by dEvEndra to distract creator of trishanku swarga.

maNika = A sliver of diamond

LOL don't get dhotis into twists, fellas.

Her name is Menaka, after the celestial dancer. It's spelled and pronounced in a peculiar Punjabi way. Pronounced Mane-ka, with "mane" pronounced as in a lion's mane.

There is no "N" (heavy n) in the name. Funny but impossible derivation from "maNi". People make up all sorts of dubious things on the internet.

She is referred to as Menaka in all conversation, and in the Hindi print media (where the spelling is unambiguous).

The lady herself came out with "The Penguin Book of Hindu Names":

https://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/det ... es-ihl376/

In the introduction she herself writes:

This book started with the realization that I did not know the meaning of my name. All I knew was that Menaka (I spell it Maneka) was the name of an apsara in the court of Indra.

[KL Dubey]

SuSwa is like Iago in Othello.
Just a villain for villainy's sake.

He is in a state of shock at being dropped.

Sadly seems to be going the route of Shouri, Jaswant, Yashwant, et al in his last years...enna, Sami ?

[Yagnasri]

NM kept him close to so that he and his handlers do not get much lift. But he continued to act true to his nature as expected. Maneka or Menaka is on her way out along with her Pappu. I was thinking initially this Pappu may have some good sense as he has seen the world and be more realistic in his chances in life. Particularly after 2014 and 2019 defeats of his pappu and pappi siblings. But alas ( or fortunately) no. Now there are officially out of favour.

Now there is an attempt to play brahmins against YAN. I am sure BJP leadership already sensed it.

[Pratyush]

Only Brahmins attached to congress will be effected by what congress is attempting between YAN and Brahmins.

So that card is out of the equation.

WRT, Varun, he might be thinking about the future of BJP in the face of the"farmers" agitation. His feed might have been totally saturated with the agitation news.

Whereas, NaMo and YAN are having access to IB reporting know exactly what is the real reach of this movement.

Only time will tell.

But the SC has to make the report public. They cannot keep playing this political role.

[williams]

SuSwa has done some good legal leg work and has some good ideas. But he has some old baggage too and has never gained the trust of current BJP inner circle. Plus he is a political lightweight. His macro-economic ideas has some points but winning elections is a micro-economic game. IMHO India is too complex a country for such silver bullet ideas to work without harming side effects. He probably crossed the line somewhere and hence the downgrade.

[Yagnasri]

If the report is made it will kill the agitation as it is most likely to be agri laws. There is lot of effort and money going into keeping this thing boiling. BJP has to be careful as they want police to do some firing etc and death happen. All they want is riots and deaths.

[Yagnasri]

SuSwa has done some good legal leg work and has some good ideas. But he has some old baggage too and has never gained the trust of current BJP inner circle.
......
He probably crossed the line somewhere and hence the downgrade.

We all know his "wins" and no one knows about the defeats. All his "wins" in the courtrooms came during a specific period and that is no longer there. Plus him weakening JJ only helped BIF and he was instrumental in fall of ABV Gov.

As far as crossing the line, he never hand any control on his mouth and actions to start with.

[Pratyush]

If the report is made it will kill the agitation as it is most likely to be agri laws. There is lot of effort and money going into keeping this thing boiling. BJP has to be careful as they want police to do some firing etc and death happen. All they want is riots and deaths.

This is all the more reason why the government has to lean on the court to take a decision. You cannot suspended a law passed by the parliament.

This suspension without any decision is dangerous overstepping of bounds by the courts.

The responsibility of the 9 deaths is on the people who are not allowing for a resolution of the matter to take place.

[Vayutuvan]

so, is it your case @KL D ji, that MP Maneka knows what her name means hain ji?!
if that is the case, we should also belieb that she knows a lot about how to treat gow maataa and hindu conception of eco-conservation.

you can't have it both ways sire, if you please.

[Sachin]

After Lakhimpur violence, Congress to gain more advantage in Punjab than in UP?
Deccan Herald even though a pro-Congress news paper seems to have woken up early today and smelt the coffee. Looks like there is a strong feeling that incidents at Lakhimpur Kheri will not be a major issue in UP, and its impact would be more in Punjab. Now Punjab is any ways not a pro-BJP state. I don't know if there is a grand scheme of Captain Amrinder Singh spinning of a new party with some tacit understanding with the BJP.

And Lakhimpur has shown what happens to poor Brahmins, SC and ST if YAN is not in power.

And there could be a reason why Anand Mishra is still retained as a central minister. Because inputs from ground level could be that he is still popular amongst the voters.

SuSwa has done some good legal leg work and has some good ideas.

IIRC; it was SuSwamy who began the National Herald case and came up with the initial set of evidences etc. But now looks like that case has gone to the cold storage. BJP leadership themselves are not bothered with it now.

[chetak]

so, is it your case @KL D ji, that MP Maneka knows what her name means hain ji?!
if that is the case, we should also belieb that she knows a lot about how to treat gow maataa and hindu conception of eco-conservation.

you can't have it both ways sire, if you please.

she a page three rent seeker who is part and parcel of the woke NGO and BIF network

she was tolerated in the BJP because of some (mis)perceptions of her alleged usefulness in tackling the pappu pappi gang along with her son. She misunderstood her own true worth and often tried to trade on the borrowed feathers.

she has always been a mean minded, entitled and influence peddling politico who is a specialist in vulture politics, repeatedly pushing her son into seeking heights of power to which he is, by character and ability, completely unsuited.

all she knows is the underbelly of dynastic politics as practiced by her in-laws and she has also aspired to do the same.

IIRC, she is sikh. So what does that make her son... another yagnyopavita or janeu wearing cashmeri brahmin for tactical electoral advantage, just like pappu ji maharaj wayanadwalle

The BJP has just taken out the garbage

[Prem Kumar]

Su Swamy is a case of BJP wanting those *in the tent* to be purer than snow, while not batting an eyelid in accepting all sorts of scumbags (like in WB pre-election).

Same with Shourie.

The BJP treated them both badly and they became bitter foes. For their deranged bitterness, we can fault SuSwa & Shourie. But it also speaks volumes of the BJP's confused policies of how to treat insiders vs outsiders.

[Sachin]

Su Swamy is a case of BJP wanting those *in the tent* to be purer than snow, while not batting an eyelid in accepting all sorts of scumbags (like in WB pre-election).

For all the good things he has, Su Swamy seems to be a person who expected the whole world to dance to his tunes. Such people are basically 'loners' and will not be able to get along with a major part of the society. Long term handling of such people is difficult, so much so that after some time they will invariably be left alone by others. The problem hits them when they are also old, as by then they would have landed up in the 'ignore list' of even their close friends & relatives. This is purely my personal thoughts, after seeing a couple of Su-Swamy Lite characters (not in politics but in other areas).

[SRajesh]

so, is it your case @KL D ji, that MP Maneka knows what her name means hain ji?!
if that is the case, we should also belieb that she knows a lot about how to treat gow maataa and hindu conception of eco-conservation.

you can't have it both ways sire, if you please.

The BJP has just taken out the garbage

Chetakji
Just had a purported audio conversation of Maneka with a Vet Surgeon forwarded on WhatsApp
The person(if she is Maneka) is using expletives in Hindi and berating the doctor and questioning his father's role in the doctors education yada yada.
I cannot authenticate the clip but What's being spewed out is 'Garbage'
Cant be believe even today the 'Entitled' act and treat a common man!! the way they do in spite the easy availability of WhatsApp Instagram YouTube.

[Ambar]

SuSwamy is a political snowflake, his most recent win was a good 23 yrs ago in 1998 from Madurai and that too because Jaya and AIADMK threw its weight behind his campaign. In his signature style he soon bit the hands of Jayalalitha and she dropped him like a hot potato , he subsequently lost his seat and his deposit and never contested again. No one really spoke about Subramanian Swamy until 2015 or so when he decided to ride the coattails of NaMo and Shah and a rejuvenated BJP. His gain to popularity has been on social media, if he were to contest elections again on his own he'll once again lose his deposit. It is all ok to criticize the party in private, he had a platform to do it through the BJP's national executive committee, but second guessing your party leadership at every given opportunity, siding with China, mocking your government's senior leadership, and trying to claim credit for someone else's hardwork all sealed his fate and his future. He is 82 yrs old, while seemingly in good health he can be of little use to any party anymore. If the INC rebels form a new party or if Prashant Kishore forms yet another third front with Momata, then I fully expect Swamy to dive into the thick of things.

Menaka and Varun Gandhi have long outrun their purpose. It suited them joining BJP to keep their names afloat and make a small fortune, and at that time it suited BJP to have two Gandhis in its camp to counter the Gandhis in Congress. Good riddance to the dead weights . I do hope Varun Gandhi joins Congress and actually does well (though given his maturity I doubt it). If he can reach the top then he can sideline the imbecilic siblings and their mother, it will be good for democracy.

Two names that I am rather surprised to hear are Suresh Prabhu and Vinayak Katiyar. The former ofcourse was the union cabinet minister for railways and before that a cabinet minister for power and a union minister for environment and forestry under Atal Bihari Vajapayee. His ouster from BJP's national executive committee could possibly be for 2 reasons (1) Nitin Gadkari who is said to be still very close to Shiv Sena may not want Suresh Prabhu in BJP anymore or (2) Shiv Sena themselves may have made this as a precondition for dissolving MVA and rejoining BJP.

Vinayak Katiyar is the founder of Bajrang Dal. He is not only a heavyweight in UP but also a well respected individual within Sangh Parivar. It is interesting to note that SuSwamy along with other slimy characters like Praveen Togadia have been working to create a chasm between VHP and RSS, I suspect Vinayak Kartiyar may have burnt all his bridges to Nagpur and paid the price.

[SRajesh]

^^Is Mr Prabhu not a Indian Emissary at G7/G20, don't know that this entails and how of travelling and staying in NY
So if he is out of India or politicos for the time being then everyone is happy no!!

[Ambar]

Yes, but Shiv Sena has an axe to grind against him for going against the party and joining BJP. I suspect Shivsena has Gadkari's support to oust Suresh Prabhu from BJP.

[sudarshan]

That said, we, at least on BRF, should be watchful of efforts to deepen the rift between Hindus and Sikhs. The gameplan is to slowly isolate Hindus and make it Hindus vs everyone else (as of now it is only limited to the political arena - BJP vs everyone else). Doing so would provide an easy cover to the desert cults as they can simply say, "oh, see these other minorities are also oppressed" and peddle their falsehoods and narratives with even more vigour and impunity.

The persecution of other minorities by Hindus needs to be highlighted. Especially the Parsis. Hindus treat them as slave labor, foisting failing companies on them and demanding that they revive them. The idea is to use up the capital which the Parsis have secretly accumulated (despite all the past persecution), in reviving companies which the incompetent yindoos could not keep afloat. It is an especially malignant form of persecution not seen anywhere else in the world, only the evil yindoo could have come up with such a diabolical scheme.

X-post from Indian Economy thread:

[chetak]

Su Swamy is a case of BJP wanting those *in the tent* to be purer than snow, while not batting an eyelid in accepting all sorts of scumbags (like in WB pre-election).

Same with Shourie.

The BJP treated them both badly and they became bitter foes. For their deranged bitterness, we can fault SuSwa & Shourie. But it also speaks volumes of the BJP's confused policies of how to treat insiders vs outsiders.

these two are interlopers and political opportunists.

Both demanded the finance ministry and lobbied publicly for it and rebelled when not accommodated. They should have been consigned to the political wilderness right then. They failed to see the steel in the PM and thought that they would bully their way into vital ministries. They did not see how such a ploy backfired with a political scorpion and lightweight like naidu, who atleast had an electoral base of his own to back him.

Both have no genuine logic to support their claims nor any other postulation to greatness, proven expertise or innovation in financial world.

so why did they want this vital ministry, who was backing them and what crackpot schemes did they have in mind.

Both would lose their deposits if they stood for elections from anywhere, so they are, by force of circumstances, depend on the largesse of the PM even for a ticket

Modi has an exploitable vulnerability and political weakness for overpaying perceived debts and past kindnesses, as he did with jetli and many others.

good riddance and the BJP dodged a bullet in both cases.

and here is one guy's epitaph:

aisa koi saga nahi jisko wo thaga nahi

remembering his past mentors like chandrashekar and jayalaalitha, to name just two

[vijayk]

Shourie destroyed Vajpayee by disinvesting all profitable public sector to his favorite business.
He and his wife's sister's husband Ajai Shukla is a weapons dealer. They all thought they can make a killing. All hopes lost.

[chetak]

Shourie destroyed Vajpayee by disinvesting all profitable public sector to his favorite business.
He and his wife's sister's husband Ajai Shukla is a weapons dealer. They all thought they can make a killing. All hopes lost.

not to forget like chandrashekar and jayalaalitha

[Ambar]

My man Shourie sold a running, functioning ITDC 5-Star 'Hotel Ashoka' located in the heart of the city in hometown for a mere Rs 1 crore rupees to a local liquor baron back in 2000-01 ! . He pulled similar shenanigans with assets of Hindustan Copper and IPCL too.

[nachiket]

Yes, but Shiv Sena has an axe to grind against him for going against the party and joining BJP. I suspect Shivsena has Gadkari's support to oust Suresh Prabhu from BJP.

And it seems you have an axe to grind against Gadkari. Where is this theory coming from?

[Ambar]

In late July of this year Uddhav praised Gadkari in public during a railway project inauguration in Nagpur. Despite Shivsena routinely spewing venom against BJP and BJP leaders, it has always maintained a cordial relationship with Nitin Gadkari. In 2013 when Devendra Fadnavis was named as the president of BJP's MH unit, there was resistance from Nitin Gadkari, the rift between the two is well known and also well covered in the media. You need to remember that Gadkari's name was often taken post 2009 election debacle as BJP's PM candidate for 2014 , that was until the Goa conference in 2013 which changed everything and NaMo and Amit Shah were able to consolidate a pan-national consensus for NaMo's PM candidacy. Fadnavis has always seen as NaMo's man, which has never gone down well with Gadkari and his supporters. Also, for those with a weak memory revisit the period of 2017-2018 when BJP lost multiple assembly elections, Gadkari made several sly comments aimed at the party leadership including the PM leading up to 2019 elections. Even before the last MH elections it was reported that Shivsena was willing to put its CM seat demands on the backburner if Gadkari was named as the CM candidate.

It doesn't take much to put forward the possibility of Shiv Sena and its supporters lobbying the reason behind Suresh Prabhu and Kirit Somaiya's removal from the party executive committee, both of whom have been in the crosshairs of Sena leadership for awhile now. Who is the one person in BJP's MH unit who is still close to Shivsena ? Nitin Gadkari. Who is the person who thinks he was wronged when Fadnavis was named BJP MH's president and later as MH's CM ? Nitin Gadkari. Who is the one person Shivsena will go through if they want to bringdown the MVA government in the state and rejoin NDA? Nitin Gadkari.

[chetak]

In late July of this year Uddhav praised Gadkari in public during a railway project inauguration in Nagpur. Despite Shivsena routinely spewing venom against BJP and BJP leaders, it has always maintained a cordial relationship with Nitin Gadkari. In 2013 when Devendra Fadnavis was named as the president of BJP's MH unit, there was resistance from Nitin Gadkari, the rift between the two is well known and also well covered in the media. You need to remember that Gadkari's name was often taken post 2009 election debacle as BJP's PM candidate for 2014 , that was until the Goa conference in 2013 which changed everything and NaMo and Amit Shah were able to consolidate a pan-national consensus for NaMo's PM candidacy. Fadnavis has always seen as NaMo's man, which has never gone down well with Gadkari and his supporters. Also, for those with a weak memory revisit the period of 2017-2018 when BJP lost multiple assembly elections, Gadkari made several sly comments aimed at the party leadership including the PM leading up to 2019 elections. Even before the last MH elections it was reported that Shivsena was willing to put its CM seat demands on the backburner if Gadkari was named as the CM candidate.

It doesn't take much to put forward the possibility of Shiv Sena and its supporters lobbying the reason behind Suresh Prabhu and Kirit Somaiya's removal from the party executive committee, both of whom have been in the crosshairs of Sena leadership for awhile now. Who is the one person in BJP's MH unit who is still close to Shivsena ? Nitin Gadkari. Who is the person who thinks he was wronged when Fadnavis was named BJP MH's president and later as MH's CM ? Nitin Gadkari. Who is the one person Shivsena will go through if they want to bringdown the MVA government in the state and rejoin NDA? Nitin Gadkari.

some days ago, onion merchants, obsequiously and effusively, praised gadkari in a public meeting that was held on some road/highway related issues

something is cooking, with the onion merchants continuing to stir the pot, zeroing in on their main target Modi.

The cooperative banks takeover has hit these onion merchants rather badly, tattering their striped inner wear. The fresh fragrance of regime change is redolent in the MAH air.

The major schemers and plotters are all active here.

[Yagnasri]

The view in many hardcore INC people is that Gadkari is the only person who is working in GoI now and is a great man.

[vsunder]

Yogi is letting his bulldozers loose. It is a court ordered demolition, but it will be twisted by the media and in the past even things like this having legal sanction was not implemented promptly


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.opindi ... moved/amp/


In this park in Prayagraj, Chandrasekhar Azad was gunned down by British forces, some say tipped off by Nehru. 90% of the trucks in UP in the 1960s boasted a painting of Azad twirling his moustache. Don’t see much of that anymore. Yogi has demolished part of a medical college gate in Rampur, many buildings on the main shopping thoroughfare Hazratganj in Lucknow and numerous properties of Mukhtar Ansari.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Shekhar_Azad

There is no doubt that the British were tipped off that Azad was in the park having a meeting. From the wiki entry on Azad Despite being a member of Congress, Motilal Nehru regularly gave money in support of Azad. Reference to this statement in the article is to the great Marxist historian Irfan Habib. And so it goes and so it goes........

[chetak]

Silently, the biggest reform of our administration is happening and no one seems to know about it. 31 specialists have been appointed to very senior positions by the government today in the lateral entry mode. These subject matter experts are a valuable proposition.

The generalist and mostly self-serving and swanning babooze army of white elephants has long morphed into a venomous artifact of a bygone era and we continue to remain the long suffering colonial cuckolds.

In the end, someone has to deliver. If the babooze can’t, then someone else from outside the ecosystem will be tasked to do it.

It's a three year assignment for now, and it would be interesting to see if they are allowed to continue

either way, it is a hugely valuable embellishment of their personal CVs


UPSC selects 31 pvt sector specialists as joint secys, directors, dy secys

New Delhi
October 8, 2021



UPSC selects 31 pvt sector specialists as joint secys, directors, dy secys


Thirty-one private sector specialists were on Thursday selected as joint secretaries, directors and deputy secretaries in central government departments, the Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) said.

Those selected include three joint secretaries, 19 directors and nine deputy secretaries, it said.

Minister of State for Personnel Jitendra Singh said it is a major step to place the right talent for the right role.

"As a major step to place the right talent for the right role, #DoPT announces 31 lateral entry recruitments, after due selection process by UPSC, as Joint Secretary/Director/Deputy Secretary in different ministries/departments of government of India," Singh tweeted.

The Department of Personnel and Training (DoPT) had requested the commission on December 14, 2020, and February 12, 2021, to select suitable people to join the government at the level of joint secretary, director or deputy secretary in various ministries and departments of the government of India on contract or deputation basis.

The UPSC launched online recruitment application for joint secretary and director level posts on February 6 and for deputy secretary level posts on March 20.

In response, a total of 295 applications for joint secretary level posts, 1,247 applications for director level posts and 489 applications for deputy secretary level posts were received.

Of these, 231 candidates were shortlisted for the interviews which were conducted from September 27 to October 8.

The UPSC finally recommended 31 candidates for the appointment as joint secretaries, directors and deputy secretaries.

Three joint secretaries would be joining finance ministry, commerce and industry ministry and agriculture and farmers welfare ministry.

As many as 19 directors would be joining commerce and industry ministry, agriculture and farmers welfare ministry, finance ministry, law and justice ministry, consumer affairs ministry, food and public distribution ministry, education ministry, jal shakti ministry, health and family welfare ministry, road transport and highways ministry, civil aviation ministry and skill development and entrepreneurship ministry.

Nine deputy secretaries have been selected for posting in education ministry, environment, forests and climate change ministry, statistics and programme implementation ministry, steel ministry, corporate affairs ministry, mines ministry, ports shipping and waterways ministry, heavy industries and public enterprises ministry and housing and urban affairs ministry.

The personnel ministry had in June 2018 invited applications for 10 joint secretary-rank posts through lateral entry' mode -- that is appointment of private sector specialists in the government -- for the first time.

Usually, the posts of joint secretary and director are manned by officers selected through the civil services examination and other tests conducted by the UPSC and other organisations.

Niti Aayog, in its three-year action agenda, and the sectoral group of secretaries on governance, in its report submitted in February, 2017, have recommended for induction of personnel in the middle and senior management level in the government with the twin objectives of bringing in fresh talent as well as augment the availability of manpower.

[rsingh]

^^^
That one of the is very smart move.Thanks GOD I is happening.

[chetak]

The view in many hardcore INC people is that Gadkari is the only person who is working in GoI now and is a great man.

The congis, commies and the woke are trying to create divisions where none should exist.

This gent is not helping matters by constantly talking to darbari and parivari presstitutes who are openly aligned with the BIF

Fadnavis has the sicilian in him and the opposition fear him because they have recognized this trait a long time ago, whereas, gadkari does not and so he is being pushed as the only acceptable alternative in MAH.

So the onion merchants have cleverly couched the narrative in terms of maratha vs brahmin to cover the massive shock that was delivered quietly by fadnavis by rocking the APMC, coop banks and coop sugar unions boats

driven by the onion merchants, the sena panicked as it saw its rural support bases were being neutered and its reach neutralized and hence yanked the rug. The opportunist congis clambered on for the ride and some war chest replenishment

since when did any opposition get to make a choice or proffer a preference as to who the ruling party leadership would be

[Kakkaji]

Gadkari is also Brahmin, like Fadnavis

[chetak]

Gadkari is also Brahmin, like Fadnavis

Did not know that. Thanks

The sicilian part still stands, though

[kit]

Silently, the biggest reform of our administration is happening and no one seems to know about it. 31 specialists have been appointed to very senior positions by the government today in the lateral entry mode. These subject matter experts are a valuable proposition.

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How are the selections made ? Any idea of the selection process

[chetak]

Silently, the biggest reform of our administration is happening and no one seems to know about it. 31 specialists have been appointed to very senior positions by the government today in the lateral entry mode. These subject matter experts are a valuable proposition.

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How are the selections made ? Any idea of the selection process[/quote]


UPSC

[chetak]

haiderwalli auntie seems to think that her woke opinion actually matters

Conveniently forgotten are all the atrocities that were visited upon the hapless aam aadmi by some demented dynastic descendants and the malignant NAC which went so far as to draft the communal violence bill and wanted to get it passed. Was that democracy, to shackle the fundamental rights of 85% of the population only to benefit the desert cult minorities and promote the BIF agenda including widespread conversions.

[Tanaji]

Gadkari is also Brahmin, like Fadnavis

Did not know that. Thanks

The sicilian part still stands, though

Gadkari is not Brahmin at least most Gadkaris are not Brahmins. They are higher caste no doubt but not Brahmins. He belongs to the same caste as Thackrey and his caste is Chandraseniya Kayastha Prabhu.