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Antrix wrote:Look at the way they have disowned Nupur and groveled at the feet of ME nations. With the NSA even going to extent of promising to make an example out of Nupur & Naveen, the same NSA was begging Maulana Saad to comply, in person. Why couldn't the GoI issue a blunt statement saying while the Government of India does not share these views, India provides freedom of expression & speech and any issue can be taken care within the ambit of the Indian constitution and Indian Laws. That's all that was needed to be said.
She has not been disowned. She has security provided by the GoI and has been moved to an unknown location. The GoI are trying to diffuse the situation and others are being goaded and paid to keep the pot boiling.

Despite multiple summons, she has not appeared in front of the polis

The eyeranian joker's false statement was publicly rebutted in India but the statement has remained on the website which is in what ever language the eyeranians use. The NSA NEVER made such a statement.

The eyeranians, at one time, were very active in fermenting trouble amongst the Indian shias but that has stopped since 2014. The congis and the commies were getting funded by the eyeranians and so they chose to look the other way. It looks like they want to return back to those days because they desperately want India to buy their oil despite ameriki sanctions and are insidiously applying all sorts of pressure on the GoI to make that happen.

The govt of India has made the point to all the concerned countries that the statement does not represent their views which was needed to be said but at the same time Modi has a whole lot of irons in the fire and he will not get bogged down or side tracked by a non issue.

The pakis are today very painfully paying the price for such outreach efforts by Modi. Diplomatic dividends are coming in and Modi wants to keep that process on going.

Law and order is a state subject. To expect MAD to jump into every controversy is unrealistic. There are other people to do that and they will not make statements to just to satisfy you, they have to consider the larger picture or they will get kicked out of their jobs.

Nupur made a mistake in the heat of the moment but the scumbag who provoked her is scot free and that long reach is the power of the forces arrayed against Modi and India, and some joker wantonly uses the pulpit of his office to sermonize an entire civilization. The descendants of jaichand are alive, well and thriving while their snouts are deep into the largesse guaranteed by the public trough.

India has so many DD channels that can be used to tell the correct storey but the powers that be seem to be oblivious to the damage being done.
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The NIA has already started probing ‘Pakistan links’ of the accused. Needless to say, no local Maulvi will be nabbed since the trail has been linked to Pakistan. First order of business should have been to nab Shri Kanhaiya Lal’s neighbour and every member of the whatsapp group in which his details were shared.

But mark my words, every local supporter and accessory to this beheading will go scot free just like no action against the various Maulanas who were shouting profanities at Hindus and calling for violence since the last couple of weeks. We have already seen this in Kamlesh Tiwari case, nothing will happen.
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chetak wrote:
Nupur made a mistake in the heat of the moment but the scumbag who provoked her is scot free
NS did nothing wrong. Quoting their scripture to them is not insult. What is happening with her is wrong, the mistake is BJP dumping her.had it not had happened nothing would be told by Shia erani.. Btw I am wondering from when did Shia started loving Aisha? Is it not their favourite is Fatima?

Just for your info, have you heard the "theOneWhoShallNotBeNamed" oral observation?
When asked, she was provoked and insulted Hindu God, is that correct... The answer was
https://inshorts.com/en/news/grass-has- ... 6666338105
In democracy grass has right to grow and donkey has the right to eat. What does this statement mean?
Pigs have right to kill?
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chetak wrote:
She has not been disowned. She has security provided by the GoI and has been moved to an unknown location. The GoI are trying to diffuse the situation and others are being goaded and paid to keep the pot boiling.

Despite multiple summons, she has not appeared in front of the polis
Let's see - she has been suspended from the party's primary membership. She has been called a 'Fringe Element' by the GoI in their groveling apology letters to the Islamic Dictatorships of the ME. No major BJP leader has supported her or condemned the threats to her. Infact, let us see how have some BJP leaders commented on the entire controversy :

Ravinder Raina, J&K BJP Chief : "Jo nabi ka nahi, woh hamara nahi"
D.Fadnavis : "I saw what she said and nobody can support her on this" (paraphrased)

The eyeranian joker's false statement was publicly rebutted in India but the statement has remained on the website which is in what ever language the eyeranians use. The NSA NEVER made such a statement.

The eyeranians, at one time, were very active in fermenting trouble amongst the Indian shias but that has stopped since 2014. The congis and the commies were getting funded by the eyeranians and so they chose to look the other way. It looks like they want to return back to those days because they desperately want India to buy their oil despite ameriki sanctions and are insidiously applying all sorts of pressure on the GoI to make that happen.
One of two things happened - either NSA did say all those things on or off the record and was embarrassed when they were published or the Iranians did conjure that out of thin air. Based on Shri Doval's earlier conduct with Maulana Saad, the first does not appear impossible to me.

The govt of India has made the point to all the concerned countries that the statement does not represent their views which was needed to be said but at the same time Modi has a whole lot of irons in the fire and he will not get bogged down or side tracked by a non issue.

The pakis are today very painfully paying the price for such outreach efforts by Modi. Diplomatic dividends are coming in and Modi wants to keep that process on going.
Except they did not say that "the statement does not represent their views which was needed to be said", the GoI crawled when asked to bend. Have you read the MEA's Statements? Calling their own people 'Fringe Elements' and promising strict action. If PM Modi's diplomacy can be 'side tracked' by such a non-issue, then its not much of a diplomacy is it? It should be called appeasement not diplomacy.

Will the ME nations India apologized to now apologize to Kanhaiya Lal's family? At what point to we say enough is enough and lock down the doors. Macron did it after Paty. Per Dharma, wars have been fought for women's honor and here we have gang rape threats, murder threats, being delivered daily to a Hindu lady and we have all kinds of 56D chess excuses to provide except for action which should have been taken yesterday.


Law and order is a state subject. To expect MAD to jump into every controversy is unrealistic. There are other people to do that and they will not make statements to just to satisfy you, they have to consider the larger picture or they will get kicked out of their jobs.

Nupur made a mistake in the heat of the moment but the scumbag who provoked her is scot free and that long reach is the power of the forces arrayed against Modi and India, and some joker wantonly uses the pulpit of his office to sermonize an entire civilization. The descendants of jaichand are alive, well and thriving while their snouts are deep into the largesse guaranteed by the public trough.

India has so many DD channels that can be used to tell the correct storey but the powers that be seem to be oblivious to the damage being done.
Nupur made no mistake and yes, LO is a state subject. So let us talk only about BJP ruled states. Kamlesh Tiwari was killed in UP in 2019, under BJP State & central Governments. How many people did NIA & State Police arrest? Why were those hundreds of maulanas who led Sar Tan se Juda rallies across India not arrested and made accessory to the crime? They say a stitch in time saves nine, it is actually true in our case. If after Kamlesh Tiwari's murder, these maulanas were arrested and put away, CAA riots wouldn't have happened, Delhi riots wouldn't have happened, Nupur issue would not be so blown up. Kanhaiya Lal may still be alive.

If you live in India, do you realize the effect of this murder on Hindu psyche? We are losing battle after battle and still thinking there is some 56D chess going on. Its been 8 years, if it sounds like a duck, if it paddles like a duck, if it feels like a duck, it is a duck. If this Government has not taken any action in Kamlesh Tiwari Case, in Shaheen Bagh, CAA Riots, Khalistani riots, Sar Tan se Juda rallies, then there is something wrong with the people at the helm.

Don't forget the same Government shot 40+ people in head, abdomen & back, including women & kids in Panchkula when Baba Ram Rahim's supporters were rioting.
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madhu wrote:
chetak wrote:
Nupur made a mistake in the heat of the moment but the scumbag who provoked her is scot free
NS did nothing wrong. Quoting their scripture to them is not insult. What is happening with her is wrong, the mistake is BJP dumping her.had it not had happened nothing would be told by Shia erani.. Btw I am wondering from when did Shia started loving Aisha? Is it not their favourite is Fatima?

Just for your info, have you heard the "theOneWhoShallNotBeNamed" oral observation?
When asked, she was provoked and insulted Hindu God, is that correct... The answer was
https://inshorts.com/en/news/grass-has- ... 6666338105
In democracy grass has right to grow and donkey has the right to eat. What does this statement mean?
Pigs have right to kill?
Quote what you want but no statement is ever going to be made that will satisfy someone like you.

practicality and realpolitik will rule.

The channel on which NS made the statement was times now and the video of the provocation to which NS responded is difficult to find now. What is being portrayed is a one sided conversation

NS made a mistake. She allowed herself to be provoked by a scumbag and her response was not befitting that of a national spokesperson of the largest political party in the world. My sympathies are with her because she is the “बलि का बकरा”

What has actually happened is that world wide the jehadis are trying to bring in a selective blasphemy law and a resolution to this effect has already been passed/discussed in the UNGA. India is one of the few countries who have strenuously objected to this saying that the resolution cannot be selective and confined to just one religion.

This NS episode is a planned ploy to force India to accord a special protection to just one religion and build public opinion in a biased manner. The GoI is rightly trying to first put out the fire before hopefully finding a permanent solution.

People going off half cocked is not helping those who are primarily affected, the सनातनी
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chetak wrote:
What has actually happened is that world wide the jehadis are trying to bring in a selective blasphemy law and a resolution to this effect has already been passed/discussed in the UNGA. India is one of the few countries who have strenuously objected to this saying that the resolution cannot be selective and confined to just one religion.

This NS episode is a planned ploy to force India to accord a special protection to just one religion and build public opinion in a biased manner. The GoI is rightly trying to first put out the fire before hopefully finding a permanent solution.

People going off half cocked is not helping those who are primarily affected, the सनातनी
Sir ji, nothing of this sort will ever come to fruition. OIC was jumping up & down and got UN to declare an International day to combat Islamophobia. Pakistan was a key participant in the bunch of Sheikhs and wannape Sheikhs jumping up and down to declare wajib ul qatl anyone who dares insult religion of peace. This does not mean that any self respecting democracy, most importantly, non-Islamic nation will enact a blasphemy law. Will any European country do it? Will France do it? Thailand? Singapore? China? Japan? Nepal?

Please stop making this into some international 56D chess. It is a simple issue - when it comes to treatment of Non-Muslims, all the Ummah is same. They are bullies and will bully anyone who dares to even touch Islam with a bargepole. The correct way to deal with bullies is by force. Not with appeasement. You can put the fires out today by apologising, groveling, letting some Muslims behead a few Hindus here & there (After all, there are 1 billion of us out there, 5-6 Hindus is less than even a rounding error), but tomorrow again something like this will happen and soon the rounding error will keep on increasing. They will keep probing until they meet steel. Remember द्वन्द कहाँ तक पाला जाए, युद्ध कहाँ तक टाला जाए, तू भी है राणा का वंशज, फेंक जहाँ तक भाला जाए।
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Antrix wrote:
chetak wrote:
What has actually happened is that world wide the jehadis are trying to bring in a selective blasphemy law and a resolution to this effect has already been passed/discussed in the UNGA. India is one of the few countries who have strenuously objected to this saying that the resolution cannot be selective and confined to just one religion.

This NS episode is a planned ploy to force India to accord a special protection to just one religion and build public opinion in a biased manner. The GoI is rightly trying to first put out the fire before hopefully finding a permanent solution.

People going off half cocked is not helping those who are primarily affected, the सनातनी
Sir ji, nothing of this sort will ever come to fruition. OIC was jumping up & down and got UN to declare an International day to combat Islamophobia. Pakistan was a key participant in the bunch of Sheikhs and wannape Sheikhs jumping up and down to declare wajib ul qatl anyone who dares insult religion of peace. This does not mean that any self respecting democracy, most importantly, non-Islamic nation will enact a blasphemy law. Will any European country do it? Will France do it? Thailand? Singapore? China? Japan? Nepal?

Please stop making this into some international 56D chess. It is a simple issue - when it comes to treatment of Non-Muslims, all the Ummah is same. They are bullies and will bully anyone who dares to even touch Islam with a bargepole. The correct way to deal with bullies is by force. Not with appeasement. You can put the fires out today by apologising, groveling, letting some Muslims behead a few Hindus here & there (After all, there are 1 billion of us out there, 5-6 Hindus is less than even a rounding error), but tomorrow again something like this will happen and soon the rounding error will keep on increasing. They will keep probing until they meet steel. Remember द्वन्द कहाँ तक पाला जाए, युद्ध कहाँ तक टाला जाए, तू भी है राणा का वंशज, फेंक जहाँ तक भाला जाए।
qatar is an ameriki poodle in every sense of the term, then add ukraine into the mix where India has repeatedly snubbed the US, EU and the UK by not going against russia

It took many days for the quatari objections to be made, time enough for the jhund against India to form, formate, and formulate, and like clockwork, the other ameriki poodles all fell into line

start from there.

ISIS and paki connections have already emerged in the jaipur case
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chetak wrote: . My sympathies are with her because she is the “बलि का बकरा”
Sir...she was made बलि का बकरा by BJP. had the video not been asked to be removed, Had she not been droped from party, this would not have become international issue.
This NS episode is a planned ploy to force India to accord a special protection to just one religion and build public opinion in a biased manner.


I had told on that day itself.. That this will not stop here. As far as great plan goes... If INDIA want to be super power then it has to face these... If it can't stand firm against it's aggressor then what's the use of being super power?


There was no ploy... Qatar and Iran used the situation provided by BJP foolishly for it's self interest. Our Ms took that this is a dog whistle and got emboldened. THIS WILL NOT STOP HERE take it from me, even if NS throat is slit it will not stop.

Most of us are not against Modi/GoI/SC... But we want change we want these barbaric acts and appeasement to stop. Just coz we Hs are civilized that does not mean we are culprits. With all these silent and 56D chess of MAD is just telling us that Hindu too should start gustake shiva ka.... And burnt bus, train pelt stone... Is that want we want?
Believe modi bending to street vito, things are going out of hand. Today it is out of hand of GoI, tomorrow it will be out of hands of opposition, did/pappu and co... Day after it will be out of hands left too...

Don't forget there are many Ms believe in gazwa-a-hind and also a slogan "with tears in our eyes we took Pakistan, laughingly we will take India too"....
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Devendra Fadnavis and his close aides skip party celebrations at BJP HQ.
The program was meant to celebrate the return of the saffron party to power in Maharashtra after two-and-half years following the collapse of the Uddhav Thackeray-led MVA government. Devendra Fadnavis and his close associates such as MLAs Girish Mahajan,Pravin Darekar, Prasad Lad and Sanjay Kute also skipped the event.
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/maha ... e-92611631

The assessment that even Devendra Fadnavis had no clue Eknath Shinde will be the CM seems to be true. Looks like the BJP HQ changed the plans at the last minute stumping everyone including Fadnavis.
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Looking at social media public opinion is turning against the unaccountable pillar of our democracy. This is not good for the democracy
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Ambar wrote:Devendra Fadnavis and his close aides skip party celebrations at BJP HQ.
The program was meant to celebrate the return of the saffron party to power in Maharashtra after two-and-half years following the collapse of the Uddhav Thackeray-led MVA government. Devendra Fadnavis and his close associates such as MLAs Girish Mahajan,Pravin Darekar, Prasad Lad and Sanjay Kute also skipped the event.
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/maha ... e-92611631

The assessment that even Devendra Fadnavis had no clue Eknath Shinde will be the CM seems to be true. Looks like the BJP HQ changed the plans at the last minute stumping everyone including Fadnavis.
any photo of DF during the swearing in will show this fact. He is grim faced in all of them and in some he has his hands folded tightly across his chest and that has never been his public posture since I began to closely follow his career

DF and a few of his supporters are not attending the telengana conclave of the BJP it is a big event and all other CM etc will be there along with the central leadership

They seem to have kept ES in the loop but not DF. Not the way to treat any honest karyakartha of the party. What was done to him in the name of "party discipline" is duplicitous. Himanta and yogi would not have missed the significance, wondering what's awaiting them round the bend.

Also, there seems to be a lot of gotala in all those hundreds of GRs signed by UT allocating money for "development" with most of them going to the onion MLAs who had already grabbed the lion's share of such funds earlier too.

ES will not be able to control sticky fingers in his faction of the SS because now there may be no fear of the dilli brigade to stay their activities. Party DNA is party DNA and lost opportunities were the primary reason for the revolt in the first place, no matter who says what now.
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BJP's new playbook....let congress walk into a trap as they demand arrest of Nupur.
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vmalik wrote:BJP's new playbook....let congress walk into a trap as they demand arrest of Nupur.
How is that a trap for Congress ? BJP are experts in walking into their own traps and then handing over the keys to their enemies.
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chetak wrote:
Ambar wrote:Devendra Fadnavis and his close aides skip party celebrations at BJP HQ.



https://www.timesnownews.com/india/maha ... e-92611631

The assessment that even Devendra Fadnavis had no clue Eknath Shinde will be the CM seems to be true. Looks like the BJP HQ changed the plans at the last minute stumping everyone including Fadnavis.
any photo of DF during the swearing in will show this fact. He is grim faced in all of them and in some he has his hands folded tightly across his chest and that has never been his public posture since I began to closely follow his career

DF and a few of his supporters are not attending the telengana conclave of the BJP it is a big event and all other CM etc will be there along with the central leadership

They seem to have kept ES in the loop but not DF. Not the way to treat any honest karyakartha of the party. What was done to him in the name of "party discipline" is duplicitous. Himanta and yogi would not have missed the significance, wondering what's awaiting them round the bend.

Also, there seems to be a lot of gotala in all those hundreds of GRs signed by UT allocating money for "development" with most of them going to the onion MLAs who had already grabbed the lion's share of such funds earlier too.

ES will not be able to control sticky fingers in his faction of the SS because now there may be no fear of the dilli brigade to stay their activities. Party DNA is party DNA and lost opportunities were the primary reason for the revolt in the first place, no matter who says what now.
While we can only speculate what went into the decision to name Eknath Shinde in place of Devendra Fadnavis as the CM, Fadnavis on his part should realize that he cannot win the state by himself without BJP and SS supporting him. Better to let Shinde run the state for 2 yrs, keep the thackerays away from power and then figure out what to do in 2024. Ofcourse, if BJP-SS wins in 2024 and Eknath Shinde wants to continue as the CM then we are back to square one.
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Ambar wrote:
vmalik wrote:BJP's new playbook....let congress walk into a trap as they demand arrest of Nupur.
How is that a trap for Congress ? BJP are experts in walking into their own traps and then handing over the keys to their enemies.
I'm not saying I agree with it. Frankly, I'm tired of all the 56d chess moves. But all the secular parties are demanding arrest of Nupur. BJP, obviously, can't/won't allow that. So that will become a wedge issue to dangle in front of Hapless hindus in GJ, then RJ and MP.
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The writing on the wall is clear. We need a government that listens to the concerns of Hindu populace. Votes speak louder than words.

Let Shri 10^6 + 8, Mananiya Atulniya Utkrisht Lalityapoorna Advitiya Narsingh Aparajit Modi ji keep up the facade till someone else is ready to take over.
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Back at the ranch..

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Honorable chief justice saheb was invited to speak at a program hosted by Assoc. of Indo Americans in California in his honor. Maybe the Amreeki citizens here can throw some light on the background of this organization and its board members.
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Abhijit Iyer-Mitra @Iyervval

35 as predicted 2 days back on this thread: Destruction of Evidence & Foreign Currency violations have been added today - he’s probably not going to come out of jail for a while now

Aman Sharma @AmanKayamHai_

More sections added by Delhi Police against #MohammadZubair — under FCRA Act and for destruction of evidence and criminal conspiracy under the IPC
Abhijit Iyer-Mitra @Iyervval

37 the provisions of 120B “criminal conspiracy” call for punishment equal to that stipulated for the crimes they wanted to frame Nupur Sharma for
295A 3yrs
153 6mo
298 1yr
505 5yrs
In addition to 9 years for 204, Zubair if convicted is looking at total 15-18 years
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It is sad that this SC judges can't see past their egos and political affiliations; they keep giving escape routes to jihadis/foreign funded scoundrels. They have to create a dossier on Chandra Chud including al his pronouncements on how he wants to make laws and refuse to promote him. They have to understand that making lose statements and not adhering to the constitution has consequences.

https://twitter.com/Iyervval/status/1543100652275961856

Read this whole thread ... VERY VERY SCARY ... most likely trained by 3 letter organizations ... . no digital footprint ..
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Ambar wrote:Back at the ranch..

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Honorable chief justice saheb was invited to speak at a program hosted by Assoc. of Indo Americans in California in his honor. Maybe the Amreeki citizens here can throw some light on the background of this organization and its board members.
I know everyone cries Modi/Modi/BJP/BJP for everything

Modi could not arrest the scoundrel Teesta even though they know how she has been working with Gandoos/Americans/Jihadis all over the globe lying in courts, taking a judge's daughter as partner and judge acting at her behest. They know everything but courts let her go. Got bail in 2 hours in SC.

Here the courts are aiding filthy scums to kill Nupur brutally ...

Courts were blatantly letting Mamta burn voters/party workers

Helping Rohingyas stay illegally

There is no constitution, no precedence ... it is as they please ... 40 year old sicko can rape and kill 3 year old kid and they say "Every saint has a past and every criminal has a future" since the sick belongs to their choice of religion.

They prejudice the case literally blaming Nupur for all sick jihadi murders acting as Judge, Prosecution and Executioner.

They go and tell in London/DC that they will make up laws since they are supreme

Rana after looting 1.2 crore walks out coolly to London and tells cock/bull stories after judges laughs at 1.2 crore scam as little peanuts

Projects blocked as they please

They sit on negotiation report for 6 months until Govt. takes the Farmers law back

How can any Govt. function with a renegade branch which refuses to abide by constitution?
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So - a lot has happened recently. I decided to skip the long complaining posts and took a nice vacation instead.

Here I am just pointing out facts that don't support the constant unreasonable criticism of Modi sarkar. Not making any arguments since the said posters will not listen anyway. FWIW:

1. As I predicted, the MVA sarkar fell long before 2024, contrary to the claims of some members. The same members vehemently also denied any possibilities of the INC goremint in MP or the INC/JDS goremint in KA falling soon. The political alignments in MH have dramatically shifted, and given the expected good performance of the new sarkar, it will be a sweep again in LS 2024 and VS 2025 election.

2. As also predicted, the "green" vote bank politics is now in shambles. The notion of "bloc voting" for certain parties has completely broken down in large states like UP. If VS 2017 and VS 2022 was not enough proof, the recent BJP victories in Azamgarh and Rampur clearly reveal this. Same happening in AS in consecutive elections.

3. Similarly, the "M+Y" combination and other similar calculations are in serious decline. There is still probably some strength left in BH and WB but that too will be broken down. Modi and Shah's long strategy is working, and working brilliantly. "Hindu rashtra" can be achieved to good measure with democratic politics. The rest is up to the citizenry. Just ranting on BRF won't help. Do something meaningful yourself and report/discuss it here if you like.

4. People can fume at Modi and Shah all they want, but they are playing a long-term game with a definite purpose and vision. Learn to respect that. India has not had that kind of national cohesion effort in (arguably) more than 1000 years, although the brahmans running the Maratha Empire achieved some semblance of it.

5. The central goremint can't be expected to wade into every religious controversy. They have taken the right step of separating the lady in question from the party, but have taken full responsibility for her security. Not only that, the goremint is looking at the connections behind the hate crimes against Hindus. Many more trashbags have been picked up recently, just hours and days after the SC returned the verdict clearing Modi completely in the Godhra matter.

6. Despite the daily drama and distractions, Modi's popularity is rock-solid. Notwithstanding claims from a few posters and social media, the national mood is different. Morning Consult tracks popularity ratings of world leaders day in and day out, and Modi's approval rate has been solidly in the 70-80% bracket for more than two years except for a few months in 2021 during the Covid second wave. Modi and Shah are masters of bringing new initiatives that benefit citizens. Most Indians do not stay angry with Modi for long. Learn to accept that.
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PS: I should add that some of the recent posts on the judiciary are surely risking trouble for this fine forum.
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did not know this fact about sudheer chaudhary of zee/dna

he was one of the worst secular tv anchors

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One more blow on corruption through cooperative banks

https://www.livemint.com/industry/agric ... 35815.html
The Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs (CCEA) on Wednesday approved the computerization of Primary Agricultural Credit Societies (PACS) with a budgetary outlay of ₹2,516 crore.

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The Primary Agricultural Cooperative credit societies (PACS) constitute the lowest tier of the three-tier short-term cooperative credit (STCC) in the country comprising of around 13 crore farmers as its members, which is crucial for the development of the rural economy. PACS account for 41% (3.01 crore farmers) of the kisan credit card (KCC) loans given by all entities in the country and 95% of these KCC loans (2.95 crore farmers) through PACS are to the small and marginal farmers.

The other two tiers -- State Cooperative Banks (StCBs) and District Central Cooperative Banks (DCCBs) have already been automated by the NABARD and brought on Common Banking Software (CBS).
...............

“There is no uniformity in the software being used by them and they are not interconnected with the DCCBs and StCBs. Under the able guidance of Amit Shah, Minister of Home and Cooperation, it has been proposed to computerize all the PACS throughout the country and bring them on a common platform at National level and have a Common Accounting System (CAS) for their day to day business," it said.

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The project comprises of development of cloud based common software with cyber security and data storage, providing hardware support to the PACS, digitization of existing records including maintenance support and training. This software will be in vernacular language having flexibility of customisation as per the needs of the states.

..................

The union home minister and minister of cooperation, Amit Shah appreciated the move and said the decision to computerize about 63,000 PACS, which are the smallest unit in the cooperative sector will prove to be a boon for the sector.


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Courts should act to deserve respect and not invite contempt.
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ramana wrote:Courts should act to deserve respect and not invite contempt.
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Blanketing "all courts" under a single label will be unproductive. There is a distribution of employee quality in every organization, and the Indian judiciary is no exception. Improvements are needed, and certainly the kind of cheap comments made by the judge recently are very bad. Should be withdrawn.

However, the courts are only responsible for one thing - fair and impartial decisions upholding the laws of the land and the Constitution. We may or may not agree with their decisions sometimes, but ascribing ulterior motives to the judge without any proof will result in troubles.

"Courts" and their appointed SIT have also steadfastly stood behind Modi in the Godhra conspiracy dating all the way from 2002. "Courts" have also upheld pretty much all the decisions of the Modi sarkar that were challenged in various jurisdictions.
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vijayk wrote:How can any Govt. function with a renegade branch which refuses to abide by constitution?
Above your and my pay grade, frankly. Just because India is a democracy doesn't mean "the people" get to decide this. As you know, the legislature and executive branches both have powers to check/balance the judiciary, and if they feel the latter is becoming a real impediment then they will take action.
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Good job:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 625125.cms

I wonder how these people believe they can get away with pretending to be 'just an innocent journalist" when they're pulled up for insulting their own country for years.
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nachiket wrote:
hnair wrote: Agreed and the best mechanism to do that right now is via the biggest democratic political party (by votes received) in history, the BJP. And that is where things are getting disquieting when you throw out your spokesperson and grovel in front of ME nations.
I will disagree. We are suffering right now because of a lack of religious organization which can do this. Muslims don't rely on Congress or MIM for their street power. Any 2 bit Mullah can summon a mob and call for people's heads in India. Political parties have limitations and will follow whoever shouts the loudest. This is a religious battle at this point and our lack of organization is a huge problem as usual.
Actually Nachiket Ji, The 2 bit mullah has been emboldened by years and years of appeasement and a clear lack of action when they indulge in street riots, see the difference in UP and its bulldozer baba's response. After the initial Friday clashes and the subsequent police danda on the rioters and a video was also made viral of the police response towards the ROPers, a section of mullahs came out and spoke against the throwing of stones by next weekend.
This could be al-taqqia just to bide their time till a secular govt comes back. The BJP as a party will not push beyond something like this for electoral concerns and to prevent counter polarization i guess. But it also shows that having a party and the right person in power to lead can also manage the affairs of samuday vishesh, which is why BJP need to keep winning elections a few times more.
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And in PB, Amarendran may be about to merge his party with BJP and be named the veep candidate of the NDA:

https://indianexpress.com/article/polit ... p-8003771/
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 621322.cms

If true, this would be a good "sunset" for Amarendran and a win for all concerned.

Then again, there could be a surprise candidate....
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rajsunder wrote:did not know this fact about sudheer chaudhary of zee/dna

he was one of the worst secular tv anchors
Unbelievable I thought Sudheer Chaudhary was one of the few pro Modi anchor

As for Manish Thakur, he is good and on point plus provides pretty good information I started following his posts from the start of 2022 UP elections
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KL Dubey wrote:
ramana wrote:Courts should act to deserve respect and not invite contempt.
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Blanketing "all courts" under a single label will be unproductive. There is a distribution of employee quality in every organization, and the Indian judiciary is no exception. Improvements are needed, and certainly the kind of cheap comments made by the judge recently are very bad. Should be withdrawn.

However, the courts are only responsible for one thing - fair and impartial decisions upholding the laws of the land and the Constitution. We may or may not agree with their decisions sometimes, but ascribing ulterior motives to the judge without any proof will result in troubles.
Discussing the motive of judges behind the judgement is contempt of court but not discussing or interpreting of judgement. That is done by lawyers and milords too in every case. For example what does "theOneWhoShouldNotBeNamed" meant donkey has the right to eat grass?
Or questing the inefficiency

I agree that there is a distribution of employee quality in every organization, but the Indian judiciary is exception coz it favours dynasty appointment through Collegium System and not talent based system. Collegium System which is not according to constitution yet we are answerable to constitution only.

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India has just 20 judges per million population. 38% of High Court and 21% of judicial positions overall lie vacant. Number of pending cases stands at 47 million. 76% of all prisoners are undertrials.

Chief Justice of India NV Ramana: We are answerable only to the Constitution.

70,572 cases pending in the Supreme court; 5.91 million cases pending in the High courts; 41.51 million cases pending in the district courts. As of last month.

Chief Justice of India NV Ramana: Pendency is not a useful indicator of how well or poorly a system is doing.
When we ask what is the use of giving farmlaw 5/5 and stating it's good for farmers after the bill is withdrawn? What's the use of giving Modi is innocent after 20yrs that too when he is in power? Won't you think many of his haters think he influenced the judgement? If Courts like to pass laws then it has to face the ire of people just like how political class faces.
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“It is irresponsible because it has prejudiced the case of Nupur Sharma in all subordinate courts... Making such an observation without any probe, or hearing of witnesses or hearing Nupur Sharma’s arguments is not only illegal, but also improper”: Justice SN Dhingra https://twitter.com/LawBeatInd/status/1 ... PW2n8ZNYYA

“Even the Supreme Court is not above law. Before making such observation against a person (Nupur Sharma), the normal procedure is that charges should have been framed and both the prosecution and defendant should have been allowed to have their say”: Justice SN Dhingra https://twitter.com/LawBeatInd/status/1 ... PW2n8ZNYYA
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UT has asked remaining office bearers to submit affidavit of support by evening https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 624911.cms
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KL Dubey wrote:So - a lot has happened recently. I decided to skip the long complaining posts and took a nice vacation instead.

Here I am just pointing out facts that don't support the constant unreasonable criticism of Modi sarkar. Not making any arguments since the said posters will not listen anyway. FWIW:

1. As I predicted, the MVA sarkar fell long before 2024, contrary to the claims of some members. The same members vehemently also denied any possibilities of the INC goremint in MP or the INC/JDS goremint in KA falling soon. The political alignments in MH have dramatically shifted, and given the expected good performance of the new sarkar, it will be a sweep again in LS 2024 and VS 2025 election.

2. As also predicted, the "green" vote bank politics is now in shambles. The notion of "bloc voting" for certain parties has completely broken down in large states like UP. If VS 2017 and VS 2022 was not enough proof, the recent BJP victories in Azamgarh and Rampur clearly reveal this. Same happening in AS in consecutive elections.

3. Similarly, the "M+Y" combination and other similar calculations are in serious decline. There is still probably some strength left in BH and WB but that too will be broken down. Modi and Shah's long strategy is working, and working brilliantly. "Hindu rashtra" can be achieved to good measure with democratic politics. The rest is up to the citizenry. Just ranting on BRF won't help. Do something meaningful yourself and report/discuss it here if you like.

4. People can fume at Modi and Shah all they want, but they are playing a long-term game with a definite purpose and vision. Learn to respect that. India has not had that kind of national cohesion effort in (arguably) more than 1000 years, although the brahmans running the Maratha Empire achieved some semblance of it.

5. The central goremint can't be expected to wade into every religious controversy. They have taken the right step of separating the lady in question from the party, but have taken full responsibility for her security. Not only that, the goremint is looking at the connections behind the hate crimes against Hindus. Many more trashbags have been picked up recently, just hours and days after the SC returned the verdict clearing Modi completely in the Godhra matter.

6. Despite the daily drama and distractions, Modi's popularity is rock-solid. Notwithstanding claims from a few posters and social media, the national mood is different. Morning Consult tracks popularity ratings of world leaders day in and day out, and Modi's approval rate has been solidly in the 70-80% bracket for more than two years except for a few months in 2021 during the Covid second wave. Modi and Shah are masters of bringing new initiatives that benefit citizens. Most Indians do not stay angry with Modi for long. Learn to accept that.
No body denies that Modi-Shah are champions when it comes to winning elections and have the 'killer instinct' that was missing in the BJP of Vajpayee-Advani who had an even worse case of 'Moralitis'. Unfortunately, that killer instinct is nowhere to be seen when it comes to protection of Hindu interests on the street level.

What long-term game are you talking about? The fact that BJP has increased percentage of Muslim intake across Government services including IPS,IAS & Judiciary? or the fact that BJP has almost doubled the minority budget in the last 8 years of their government, including running schemes that specifically provide an unfair advantage to Muslims in certain occupations where they have completely replaced Hindus?

Long term vision doesn't work when we have a 200 million population that is highly prone to radicalization & being controlled by outside factors. While we must understand the fact that this problem has been gifted to us by our own ancestors who bought the snake oil sold by Nehru-Gandhi and did not impose full transfer of population but before 2014, BJP's utterings were very clear on where they stood on this issue : No more appeasement. They have since done a U-turn on the appeasement part, visible from PM's 'ek haath me Quran, ek haath me Computer' statement to pausing for Azan in Bengal (where the BJP was expecting a big chunk of Muslim vote) to calling Gaurakshaks Gundas to running UPSC training centers for Muslims.

What is the point of 300+ seats when the elected government will fall to its knees everytime a minority takes to the streets & perpetrates violence? Is not an insult to the will of the Majority expressed through the valid means of ballot? Farm Laws rolled back on Gurupurab & after many weeks of Sikh appeasement, BJP crashed & burned while those with clear separatist leanings are in the Parliament & State Assembly. PM Modi has done more for Muslims than any other government in the last 75 years, yet he only gets the choicest expletives from them & their women, who he empowered in the truest sense.

We must take a step back and see where we are heading. The time to take on Islam was yesterday, yet we keep on kicking the can down the road. When I say take on Islam, I do not mean rioting or violence, but taking apart the Islamist ecosystem brick by brick. These fellows are presenting you with opportunity after opportunity, and we continue to miss the full tosses. So many sar tan se juda rallies, which have culminated in murders yet those who led are roaming free. The thought that by giving this community, free houses, employment & lifting them economically will take them away from their fundamentals is extremely flawed.

What more will the BIF do to BJP & Modi that they are already not doing?
Bad mouthing India internationally - check
Killing off BJP workers in opposition ruled states - check
Killing off blasphemous Hindus - check
Abusing Modi daily - check
Aligning with every enemy of the Indian state - check

What are we afraid of? Here is my 5 pt agenda that the BJP government must implement

a. Pass NJAC, make it a non-negotiable
b. Junk minority only schemes by the Central & State Government
c. Pass an anti-radicalization law that bans & introduces heavy jail times for calls for violence in the name of Islam
d. Implement & amend CAA to grant automatic citizenship to any Hindu/Sikh/Jain/Buddhist from Pak/BD/Afg
e. Relax Arms Act & empower grassroot Hindu organizations like VHP & Bajrang Dal to protect Hindu interests when shit hits the fan

None of these are impossible to do and all these are critical to survival of the Hindu civilization.

Above all, BJP must understand that Sabka Saath & Sabka Vishwas is an unattainable goal. Unless the Prime Minister converts to Islam with his entire cabinet, they will continue to get single digit votes in the Muslim community despite spending disproportionate resources on the community. Are they prepared for this? If not, please stop with this SS-SV nonsense.
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One of the VP probables is amarinder singh, the guy who single handedly managed, logistically supported and organised the continuous stream of relay replacements of aged farmers, as well as, thousands of paid other agitators at the singur and other venues and there is no doubt that the congis played a very big hand in that antinational "farmer's agitation"

Understand from the papers that he is presently in lund-on, getting a new spine, and for some unfathomable reason, he is possibly being considered for the vp's post after venkiah naidu.

do we really need such political chameleons to enter into the nationalistic space
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I don't think Amrander Singh will be offered any constitutional position. I believe that a lot of other deserving candidates exist for this position.
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I absolutely condemn AIM for using unconstitutional language against One who shall not be named :

https://twitter.com/iyervval/status/154 ... wLa_aWDJVQ
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Pratyush wrote:I don't think Amrander Singh will be offered any constitutional position. I believe that a lot of other deserving candidates exist for this position.
He just merged his political party with BJP and there by informally announcing the end of his political career.
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Pratyush wrote:I don't think Amrander Singh will be offered any constitutional position. I believe that a lot of other deserving candidates exist for this position.
let's hope onlee

his merger is strategic and meant only for himself and his own.

Age has over run him, not just caught up with him

dynast obligations and ambitions are the only thing on his mind
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