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Antrix wrote: I would say that the Hindutva vote bank is anywhere between 20-30% of total BJP voteshare. We just have to track BJP’s voteshare from the RJB movement, anyone voting for BJP then was for Hindutva and will remain so.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral ... nata_Party

and other important events
Ekta Yatra (1991–1992)
  • 1) Demolition of the Babri Masjid: 6 December 1992
    2) NDA government (1998–2004)
    3) 2002 Gujarat violence
let me know what you will make out of it.
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madhu wrote:
Antrix wrote: I would say that the Hindutva vote bank is anywhere between 20-30% of total BJP voteshare. We just have to track BJP’s voteshare from the RJB movement, anyone voting for BJP then was for Hindutva and will remain so.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral ... nata_Party

and other important events
Ekta Yatra (1991–1992)
  • 1) Demolition of the Babri Masjid: 6 December 1992
    2) NDA government (1998–2004)
    3) 2002 Gujarat violence
let me know what you will make out of it.
If we assume that in 1991 only the hardcore Hindutva voters voted for BJP, then the effect is 120+ LS seats. That can be translated to roughly 30-40% of BJP's entire vote share.
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chetak wrote:the onions, BIF, and mainly the abrahamics are funding this "agitation"

Activists, parties hold protest against move to construct Metro car shed at Aarey

https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation ... 72507.html
Apologes but need info. Onions = who? Power because of onion pricing incident?

Thank you.
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Lisa wrote:
chetak wrote:the onions, BIF, and mainly the abrahamics are funding this "agitation"





https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation ... 72507.html
Apologes but need info. Onions = who? Power because of onion pricing incident?

Thank you.
yes
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Rajiv Malhotra is right. His biggest criticism is about the Hindu people despite his large scale work about the other side. There is no will to do, but complaints, and advises.

Similarly, when there are 500 words rants here about the government, imagine how much Modi could rant about his own people? They have 50 years of experience of meeting all kinds of people, have seen the colonization, inferior complex, various attitudes and mentality. There must be amazing insights. Yet, he doesn't rant, and it's the first time for India to have a leader who doesn't complain even when it is tough times. He can easily put the blame elsewhere in this global battlefield.
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Updates from JH
Soren had a long meeting with Shah.
Hemant soren fears meeting UT fate
Lose CM job
Lose party ownership (party rumblings)
End up in jail.
Like Lalu hhe has done corruption with tracks all over. Ranchi HC is after him with a noose .
EC wants to de recognise him for election.
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IndraD wrote:Updates from JH
Soren had a long meeting with Shah.
Hemant soren fears meeting UT fate
Lose CM job
Lose party ownership (party rumblings)
End up in jail.
Like Lalu hhe has done corruption with tracks all over. Ranchi HC is after him with a noose .
EC wants to de recognise him for election.
Don't rescue him. destroy him
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1543 ... 77568.html

All the funders of Zubair and most of Jihadi network in India
Bill Gates foundation
Azim Premji foundation
Omidyar
Soros

Their agent NGOs are embedded everywhere even in central/state Govt. committees diverting funds to jihadis/waging jihad
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Ok so they are all an interlinked web. No surprise there, and by itself proves nothing that is actionable.
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vijayk wrote:
IndraD wrote:Updates from JH
Soren had a long meeting with Shah.
Hemant soren fears meeting UT fate
Lose CM job
Lose party ownership (party rumblings)
End up in jail.
Like Lalu hhe has done corruption with tracks all over. Ranchi HC is after him with a noose .
EC wants to de recognise him for election.
Don't rescue him. destroy him
Yup but I am sure AS doesn't need to be told this. We need massive Ghar whaspi program for JH
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NDA Govt. reducing VAT on Fuel in MH ... Good move ... Looter MVA gang has been screwing people from all sides
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rajkumar wrote:
vijayk wrote: Don't rescue him. destroy him
Yup but I am sure AS doesn't need to be told this. We need massive Ghar whaspi program for JH
Agree ... same in AP and TN too :roll:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC3SoIheJJQ



Nupur Sharma row: the full inside story of how India handled Muslim nations







Most narratives about India's ties with the Muslim world post the Nupur Sharma row are false: Amb. Deepak Vohra explains the true back story on his return from The Middle East
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https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/the-state ... is-damning

Swarajya says it like it is. The glaring silence of the Government, which emboldens the jihadis.

As pointed out in the article, Modi found it worth his time to warn Gau-Rakshaks to not even indulge in self-defence in 2016. But not a pipsqueak from him on the wanton murders by Muslims.

Is he so scarred by the witch-hunt post-Godhra or has Vishwa-guru status blinded him or is it the RSS-confusion/dhimmitude coming through? Is it something more cynical: Ram temple can create a vote-bank ...... but dead-Hindus are needed to sustain it!

We can come up with uber-Chanakian excuses like "Lets wait till we are a (Current GDP)*2 + 5 Trillion economy", "He wants the Malaysian Tejas deal to go through", "We are dependent on UAE for our expats and oil" etc. But murder of his hard-core supporters at home should be a politician's/leader's first priority. Modi is failing that test of loyalty.
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vijayk wrote:NDA Govt. reducing VAT on Fuel in MH ... Good move ... Looter MVA gang has been screwing people from all sides
I was eagerly awaiting this news.. Hopefully would put less pressure on the mango man, especially since urban areas have seen an explosion in gig jobs, mostly involving delivery using their own vehicles.
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https://twitter.com/smitaprakash/status ... 4949861376
Smita Prakash @smitaprakash
Zubair was a left arm pace bowler as per 1 article, which team & where? Went to Finland, Japan for onsite meetings (article) yet no one knew him at place of work? Software engineer from where? No trace of siblings, 4 of them, again as per the article. Who was he before Alt News?
RWशेरलॉक @_sherlocked7

According to himself, he was 25 in 2020 and was working in HCL in 2008 according to an article. So, he was 13 in 2008 means he must have completed his engineering when he was only 11 or 12
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Which politician is handling him? Kejri?
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Prem Kumar wrote:https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/the-state ... is-damning

Swarajya says it like it is. The glaring silence of the Government, which emboldens the jihadis.

As pointed out in the article, Modi found it worth his time to warn Gau-Rakshaks to not even indulge in self-defence in 2016. But not a pipsqueak from him on the wanton murders by Muslims.

Is he so scarred by the witch-hunt post-Godhra or has Vishwa-guru status blinded him or is it the RSS-confusion/dhimmitude coming through? Is it something more cynical: Ram temple can create a vote-bank ...... but dead-Hindus are needed to sustain it!

We can come up with uber-Chanakian excuses like "Lets wait till we are a (Current GDP)*2 + 5 Trillion economy", "He wants the Malaysian Tejas deal to go through", "We are dependent on UAE for our expats and oil" etc. But murder of his hard-core supporters at home should be a politician's/leader's first priority. Modi is failing that test of loyalty.
Agree on this ... The state/L&O has to come against these threatening crooks mercilessly ...
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Antrix wrote:
I would say that the Hindutva vote bank is anywhere between 20-30% of total BJP voteshare. We just have to track BJP’s voteshare from the RJB movement, anyone voting for BJP then was for Hindutva and will remain so.
Add to this the fact that about 49% or less than half of Hindus overall voted for the BJP in 2019, and you can see the true extent of Hindutva voting among Hindus. Still, 15-20% of the Hindu population who consider Hindutva as a factor in their vote is a substantial improvement over the 1980s-70s etc. But the Hindutva bloc must approach 50% of the Hindu population for substantial changes to Indian polity and entrenched state systems weighted against them.
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greatde wrote:Rajiv Malhotra is right. His biggest criticism is about the Hindu people despite his large scale work about the other side. There is no will to do, but complaints, and advises.

Similarly, when there are 500 words rants here about the government, imagine how much Modi could rant about his own people? They have 50 years of experience of meeting all kinds of people, have seen the colonization, inferior complex, various attitudes and mentality. There must be amazing insights. Yet, he doesn't rant, and it's the first time for India to have a leader who doesn't complain even when it is tough times. He can easily put the blame elsewhere in this global battlefield.
"There is no will to do, but complaints, and advises."

You are right. On an individual level, the level of brainwashing the average Abrahamic has, is simply not possible for a Hindu. The 'will to do' partly extends from the fanatic belief in own cause. Muslims behead at the mere support of a supposed 'blasphemer', Christian missionaries cross oceans, mountains & brave great odds to harvest souls, they do it for their fanatic belief in their God in the sky. 99% Hindus are not fanatic enough to kill for their religion. Hindus only react, hardly ever act pre-emptively, and mostly because their red lines have been crossed - in the imminent threat of mass riots or mass destruction of our holy places.

Is it possible for us to change this characteristic? To make the Hindu society ready to die & kill for the Hindu religion? How will we do it?

It will require a grass roots change in education & upbringing. Setting up of Hindu educational institutions run & controlled by Hindus. Free Hindu temples which can fund & sustain large Hindu organizations that can work on the ground as the answer to Muslim street power. Multiple pro-Hindu media outlets that can fight the narrative wars on our behalf.

Do you think any of the above is possible without state patronage? Do you think globally, Muslims/Christian ecosystems have developed without the hand of the states? The ME nations heavily fund the Muslim causes & organizations across the world. Europe & US pour billions into soul harvesting apparatus every year. What do we have?

A government that was supposed to atleast even the playing field if not skew it in our favor. What did it do? Let's take a look.

CAA - Passed, not implemented
NRC - On Hold
Census - On Hold
Muslim police personnel, health personnel & civil personnel in Muslim majority areas - Implemented
Special Muslim only UPSC Training Centers - Implemented
Madrassas allowed to train UPSC Candidates - Implemented

Muslims beneficiaries make up :
31% of Houses under PMAY
33% Kissan Samman Nidhi
37% LPG Connections
36% Mudra Loans]


3 Cr + Muslim Education Scholarship beneficiaries vs 2.5 Cr before 2014 - Implemented
5.5 Lakh+ Beneficiaries for Muslim only Employment schemes vs 20000 during UPA - Implemented
Nai Roshni - Muslim Women only Scheme - 3 L beneficiaries after 2014 vs 97000 during UPA - Implemented
Hunar Haat - Muslim only handicraft training & support scheme - Implemented
National Scholarship Scheme - 71% Goes to Muslim candidates vs 9.2% Hindus - Implemented

This is not just appeasement, this is economic & social apartheid for a large number of Hindus by taking away their education & employment rights and handing it over to Muslims. And this is being done by a man who was protected by the UPA traitors by prayers of tens of crores of Hindus. Crores of Hindus of Gujarat and rest of India stood with this man and pushed him to power with a once in a generation mandate NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. All we ask is equality, forget anything else. Give Hindus an equal playground, if you cannot utter a word against Islamic terrorists, then please leave our Gaurakshaks out too, if you can't shed a tear for Kanhaiya Lal, please don't cry for Tabrez too.

Asking for accountability is not ranting.
imagine how much Modi could rant about his own people?
For what? For giving him 282 and 303? For making him 3 time CM of Gujarat? For elevating him to the most popular leader in the world? Did Muslims vote for this man or did Hindus? Give me one reason why Modi should rant about 'his own people'?
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/rep-omar- ... SHRDNRWDD&




Video footage surfaced online that appeared to show a crowd of people at a Somali cultural event in Minneapolis booing “Squad” member Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) over the weekend.

Omar, who came to the United States as a Somali refugee, made an appearance at a concert featuring Somali singer Suldaan Seeraar at the city’s Target Center. As soon as she arrived on stage, the boos began, according to footage posted online.

Some yelled at her, “Get out!” and “get the [expletive] out of here.”

“It was an honor to welcome you to our incredible city,” the Democratic congresswoman said in a Twitter post alongside a 14-second clip. The clip ended moments after the audience started to boo loudly.

Longer videos suggested that the crowd booed her for about a minute after she and her husband came onto the stage. “OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, we don’t have all night,” Omar said at one point as the crowd kept booing.

Unclear Why
Some people suggested that it’s because of Omar’s support for Roe v. Wade, a Supreme Court decision that decriminalized abortion nationwide, support for LGBT causes, and other left-wing causes. Omar is currently the whip of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
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https://www.amarujala.com/rajasthan/ajm ... m-my-house ajmer dargah sharif where all liberals turn up with chadar issues bounty on NS
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^^ sir even the ‘Acapulco Gold’ smoking Coupta has made video on Dawat~E~Islami and coming to sense
The Sufi loving Barelvi sect and their trusted lashkars like silage-E-Sahaba and Tehreke Labbaik
That needs video message need’s to percolate deep into the society and people to understand that Sufi are not just singing dancing dervish but equally blood thirsty Stone Age cultists
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chetak wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC3SoIheJJQ



Nupur Sharma row: the full inside story of how India handled Muslim nations







Most narratives about India's ties with the Muslim world post the Nupur Sharma row are false: Amb. Deepak Vohra explains the true back story on his return from The Middle East

It’s worth watching. My takeaways:

- we should have some perspective on the India-GCC relationship & don’t fall for FUD

- pragmatism along with projecting a genuinely friendly & helpful image are the key elements of Indian diplomacy in the region

- in recent times India’s capacity to be a giver of stringless help & a good-faith business partner have increased considerably

- ambassador is an India-booster as well as an ostentatious secularist. Seems very comfortable with Modi government, which indicates that he finds nothing in Modi policy that contradicts his own ostentatious secularism. This is a solid data point for understanding Modi: his secularism is not a pose.

- if you are looking for moral or ideological clarity in the ambassador’s views you are wasting your time. Out of one side of his mouth he denounces Saudis, GCC and OIC for their domestic repression and their failure to hold Islamist behavior accountable, but out of the other side of his mouth he praises them as having true friendship with, and appreciation for, India. I suppose that’s his job—to blithely gloss over contradictions—as a diplomat.
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Prem Kumar wrote:


Is he so scarred by the witch-hunt post-Godhra or has Vishwa-guru status blinded him or is it the RSS-confusion/dhimmitude coming through? Is it something more cynical: Ram temple can create a vote-bank ...... but dead-Hindus are needed to sustain it!


Both could be true. All those attacks over such a long period are bound to leave a mark. He is human after all.

And as a politician, he would have to be very stupid to not take advantage of the Hindu political dilemma. It is not a situation created by him, it is the consequence of a Hindu dhimmitude that has been in place in some form, and to some degree, since at least 1556.

I think it’s the mistake of Hindus for placing superhuman expectations on Modi, wanting him to erase almost 500 years of dhimmi culture that has deep & wide, with some magical exercise of power. While they themselves will watch from the sidelines, unwilling to risk their careers, lives etc. even a little.

At this point, the only thing that can alter the status quo is a revolution. Modi can’t will a revolution into being. As the comrades like to say, the masses have to be ready for a revolution. They are, very obviously, not ready.
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Rsatchi wrote:^^ sir even the ‘Acapulco Gold’ smoking Coupta has made video on Dawat~E~Islami and coming to sense

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It's high time that the govt took these restaurants down a peg or two


how is the customer responsible for subsidizing the wages of restaurant workers.

The owner has hired them and the owner should pay his employees

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Antrix wrote: or yearning for a Nobel Peace Prize ...
Never going to happen. MKG was not given a Nobel even though MLK Jr. was awarded one.
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Antrix wrote:
greatde wrote:Rajiv Malhotra is right. His biggest criticism is about the Hindu people despite his large scale work about the other side. There is no will to do, but complaints, and advises.

Similarly, when there are 500 words rants here about the government, imagine how much Modi could rant about his own people? They have 50 years of experience of meeting all kinds of people, have seen the colonization, inferior complex, various attitudes and mentality. There must be amazing insights. Yet, he doesn't rant, and it's the first time for India to have a leader who doesn't complain even when it is tough times. He can easily put the blame elsewhere in this global battlefield.
"There is no will to do, but complaints, and advises."

You are right. On an individual level, the level of brainwashing the average Abrahamic has, is simply not possible for a Hindu. The 'will to do' partly extends from the fanatic belief in own cause. Muslims behead at the mere support of a supposed 'blasphemer', Christian missionaries cross oceans, mountains & brave great odds to harvest souls, they do it for their fanatic belief in their God in the sky. 99% Hindus are not fanatic enough to kill for their religion. Hindus only react, hardly ever act pre-emptively, and mostly because their red lines have been crossed - in the imminent threat of mass riots or mass destruction of our holy places.

Is it possible for us to change this characteristic? To make the Hindu society ready to die & kill for the Hindu religion? How will we do it?

It will require a grass roots change in education & upbringing. Setting up of Hindu educational institutions run & controlled by Hindus. Free Hindu temples which can fund & sustain large Hindu organizations that can work on the ground as the answer to Muslim street power. Multiple pro-Hindu media outlets that can fight the narrative wars on our behalf.

Do you think any of the above is possible without state patronage? Do you think globally, Muslims/Christian ecosystems have developed without the hand of the states? The ME nations heavily fund the Muslim causes & organizations across the world. Europe & US pour billions into soul harvesting apparatus every year. What do we have?

A government that was supposed to atleast even the playing field if not skew it in our favor. What did it do? Let's take a look.

CAA - Passed, not implemented
NRC - On Hold
Census - On Hold
Muslim police personnel, health personnel & civil personnel in Muslim majority areas - Implemented
Special Muslim only UPSC Training Centers - Implemented
Madrassas allowed to train UPSC Candidates - Implemented

Muslims beneficiaries make up :
31% of Houses under PMAY
33% Kissan Samman Nidhi
37% LPG Connections
36% Mudra Loans]


3 Cr + Muslim Education Scholarship beneficiaries vs 2.5 Cr before 2014 - Implemented
5.5 Lakh+ Beneficiaries for Muslim only Employment schemes vs 20000 during UPA - Implemented
Nai Roshni - Muslim Women only Scheme - 3 L beneficiaries after 2014 vs 97000 during UPA - Implemented
Hunar Haat - Muslim only handicraft training & support scheme - Implemented
National Scholarship Scheme - 71% Goes to Muslim candidates vs 9.2% Hindus - Implemented

This is not just appeasement, this is economic & social apartheid for a large number of Hindus by taking away their education & employment rights and handing it over to Muslims. And this is being done by a man who was protected by the UPA traitors by prayers of tens of crores of Hindus. Crores of Hindus of Gujarat and rest of India stood with this man and pushed him to power with a once in a generation mandate NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. All we ask is equality, forget anything else. Give Hindus an equal playground, if you cannot utter a word against Islamic terrorists, then please leave our Gaurakshaks out too, if you can't shed a tear for Kanhaiya Lal, please don't cry for Tabrez too.

Asking for accountability is not ranting.
imagine how much Modi could rant about his own people?
For what? For giving him 282 and 303? For making him 3 time CM of Gujarat? For elevating him to the most popular leader in the world? Did Muslims vote for this man or did Hindus? Give me one reason why Modi should rant about 'his own people'?
All these are depressing ... I agree with these statistics.

OTOH why are we getting screwed ...

There are many Muslim/left wing organizations that only care about Muslims and registering them for all these organizations

We need orgs like that go to each poor person, register for PMAY, PM medical insurance, insurance, scholarships ... We need someone to advise them. Unfortunately, BJP IT cell guys are busy spreading the nice photos but no one is interested in helping people to register for these schemes.

TN BJP was doing this a while ago which gave them good publicity. Not sure if they are continuing. Each state level BJP unit has to be given a mandate that each person has to register 50 people for these schemes
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is there a reference for them?
Muslims beneficiaries make up :
31% of Houses under PMAY
33% Kissan Samman Nidhi
37% LPG Connections
36% Mudra Loans]


3 Cr + Muslim Education Scholarship beneficiaries vs 2.5 Cr before 2014 - Implemented
5.5 Lakh+ Beneficiaries for Muslim only Employment schemes vs 20000 during UPA - Implemented
Nai Roshni - Muslim Women only Scheme - 3 L beneficiaries after 2014 vs 97000 during UPA - Implemented
Hunar Haat - Muslim only handicraft training & support scheme - Implemented
National Scholarship Scheme - 71% Goes to Muslim candidates vs 9.2% Hindus - Implemented
i am really shocked to see this stats. why is congress not utilizing this now when all Hindus are anger to get back the lost Hindu votes. what makes Modi to think Ms will vote for him. i have not seen any M having soft corner towards Modi. there are some Xtans who think good about Modi but not M.
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IndraD wrote:Shocking that permission for contempt proceedings against
@UnSubtleDesi
for her remarks on the Supreme Court, is being sought from the Attorney General. Worryingly, the AG has been known to buckle - e.g. in the case of
@AjeetBhartii
.

I stand with
@UnSubtleDesi
and so should YOU.

https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/stat ... zTrS3OcQmQ
Buckle? I rather think Venugopal is an old-school elite congressi tyrant who just wants to discipline the masses. There is no question of buckling. He is functioning as per specifications.
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madhu wrote:is there a reference for them?
Muslims beneficiaries make up :
31% of Houses under PMAY
33% Kissan Samman Nidhi
37% LPG Connections
36% Mudra Loans]


3 Cr + Muslim Education Scholarship beneficiaries vs 2.5 Cr before 2014 - Implemented
5.5 Lakh+ Beneficiaries for Muslim only Employment schemes vs 20000 during UPA - Implemented
Nai Roshni - Muslim Women only Scheme - 3 L beneficiaries after 2014 vs 97000 during UPA - Implemented
Hunar Haat - Muslim only handicraft training & support scheme - Implemented
National Scholarship Scheme - 71% Goes to Muslim candidates vs 9.2% Hindus - Implemented
i am really shocked to see this stats. why is congress not utilizing this now when all Hindus are anger to get back the lost Hindu votes. what makes Modi to think Ms will vote for him. i have not seen any M having soft corner towards Modi. there are some Xtans who think good about Modi but not M.
Sir, BJP handles boast of these numbers.

https://nsp.gov.in/dashboard/
https://t.co/PwYLihX80I
https://t.co/PwYLihX80I
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 181932.cms
https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... c-5157871/
https://newsonair.com/2022/04/02/10-inc ... bas-naqvi/
https://theprint.in/india/modi-govt-wan ... ng/259153/
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/hom ... 061306.cms

Go through this thread too : https://twitter.com/listen2dil/status/1 ... kfqvo2YqAg

What UPA promised the Muslims and never delivered, Modi government has overdelivered and promised more. Absolutely ZERO Shatrubodh. Vinash kaale vipreet buddhi.
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Antrix wrote:
vimal wrote:
I do also feel that Namo is slowly moving away from the center stage and worried about his legacy. So far the only nations that have awarded him are the two peaceful ones. Everyone else has treaded him like an untouchable so it might be playing in his mind too.
TBH, most of hindutvavadis are probably the middle class professionals who are also the honest tax payers (the 2%). BJP does not depend on their votes for winning elections, if they can keep providing for the majority poor Hindus and if they can add peacefuls they are all set. Anyway BJP is filled to the gill with ex-Congress members.
I would say that the Hindutva vote bank is anywhere between 20-30% of total BJP voteshare. We just have to track BJP’s voteshare from the RJB movement, anyone voting for BJP then was for Hindutva and will remain so.
BJP got ~20% of the vote in 1991. Their only issues of significance then were the Ram Mandir and Hindu issues. Assume that 75% of the BJP voters were Hindu minded voters then. This gives us ~15% Hindutva vote since 1991 [this was constant until 2014, when BJP rapidly expanded due to the acceptability of Modi].

Hindutva has now expanded in Assam, Karnataka, Bengal and Telangana, with a lot more people aware of Jihadi atrocities. Heck, AIADMK fans routinely talk about Jihadis these days. In 2019, BJP got 37.7% of the vote. Out of this, the Hindu vote is anywhere between 20 and 25%, I would hazard. This translates to anywhere between 50 and 66% of the total BJP vote. Hindutva has spread rapidly among the rural masses these days.
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Antrix wrote: or yearning for a Nobel Peace Prize ...
Never going to happen. MKG was not given a Nobel even though MLK Jr. was awarded one.
Too much britshit dirt would have come out into the public domain had sargeant major mkg been given the nobel....

his activities and writings in south africa would have come under the spot light and that would not have been beneficial to either sargeant major mkg or the britshit govt. His voluminous writings in south africa prove that the sargeant major was an out and out imperialist, and his aversion to the black is well known. These writings are in the public domain.

a completely unknown mkg "returned to India" from south africa and within a very short while he was the top honcho in the congi party. His rise to the top was meteoric and a very hopeful djinnah was rudely sidelined and went off to lund-on in a self imposed political exile for more than 10 years.

How and why did this happen, and who was the power behind this gent who was politically parachuted and foisted into the top job in a political party that was instrumental in accepting the "transfer of power" formula that kept the colonial structures almost intact, by replacing the erstwhile gora sahibs with the rapacious brown sahibs who continue to rule imperially even today

It is not by any chance that he is being referred to in many places as the stretcher bearer of the britshit empire.

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how and why did mkg insist and get Sardar Patel to abdicate his rightful and democratically endorsed claim to be the PM, especially when SP had won the elections by an overwhelming majority of votes and neverwho found himself almost without any support.

This was a case of match fixing of subcontinental proportions and it was done by none other than the erstwhile sargeant major mkg who insisted and served the britshit empire during the boer war after repeatedly applying for permission to the britshit govt

this was the first step in making independent India dependent on the BIF remote control.

His differential mollycoddling of the abrahamics, setting up and perpetuating the ecosystem of systemic majority subversion, and the systematic propagation of appeasement of the aggressive abrahamics as ingrained state policy, was nothing but a repackaged version of the long existing britshit policies that were incorporated soon after the debacle of 1857.

A perusal of the congi party documents shows that despite sergeant major mkg making his choice for neverwho well known, 12 of 15 state committees nominated Sardar Patel for the post of party president, and by virtue of these nominations Sardar Patel was the legally elected PM of an independent India.

Sadly for India, Sardar Patel was not the choice of the britshits and the match was fixed by sergeant major mkg well after the close of play.

The Mahabharat has a shady fixer called Shakuni, just saying onlee



https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 124189.cms


Meet Sergeant Major Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi


NEW DELHI: British steamer SS Kinfauns Castle had reached the English Channel from Cape Town in South Africa in August 1914 when one of the passengers received important news: the British Empire was at war with Germany. Upon reaching Britain, he would declare unconditional support to the British war effort and propose to raise an Indian volunteer unit. He was barrister Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.

Historians and political pundits have forever struggled to explain why the apostle of peace and non-violence had rendered support to the British Empire in the First World War. Some say Gandhi was a loyalist who had great faith in the British; some say Gandhi was an opportunist who tried to use the Great War to extract political concessions from Britain. Gandhi himself struggled to explain it and gave contradictory statements to justify his stand right up to the mid-1920s. But until the end of the war, Gandhi understood Britain’s cause to be a righteous one and worth fighting for.

“We have to understand that Gandhi was a politician back then, and like all politicians, he did contradict himself several times. But at that time in India, there was no demand for total independence or 'poorna swaraj' but dominion status. So it wasn’t just Gandhi but most political leaders of that time, cutting across party lines, supported in varying degrees the British war effort,” says military historian Squadron Leader Rana T S Chhina (Retd).

By late August, 1914, it had become clear to Gandhi that the Indian Army would be deployed on the Western Front and there could be many Indians wounded needing medical care. So Gandhi proposed to raise an Indian ambulance corps that was soon sanctioned by the British war office. It was not the first time that Gandhi had appealed to Indians to join a British war: during the Second Boer War in 1899-1902 and Zulu War in 1906, Gandhi, then in South Africa, had raised an Indian ambulance corps in which he served as a sergeant-major of the British Army. In the next five months, Gandhi managed to inspire many Indians to join the corps, some of whom later served in hospitals in Southampton and Brighton where Indian war casualties were treated. In this cause, he was aided by his wife Kasturba and Sarojini Naidu, who also drew up a resolution for unconditional support to the British Empire.
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Bigger question is why did Hindus follow this man so blindly? There was no proper mass communication network in those days, no social media to influence people, no widespread radio services to reach masses, very few could read newspapers. So why is it that Hindus, like the sheep, started blindly following this man so much that it became a phenomenon.

Is there is a book that anyone can recommend, that makes an attempt to understand this buffoonery of gigantic proportions by the Hindus?
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Antrix wrote:Bigger question is why did Hindus follow this man so blindly?
Antrixji, I would argue to the contrary, in this day and age of SM, it is very difficult for a person to suddenly arrive on the big stage, the jackals on SM would navel gaze on every action of such a person till kingdom come. As for your question, might as well ask why people followed JC, PMd., Hitler, even Indra. It is a human tendency to hope that someone else is looking out for them and that their actions are a part of a grander narrative, Gandhi was not the only one with a mass following, others had too, before and after, it's just that his narrative won over many competing, the why to that is a different question entirely.
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Antrix wrote:Bigger question is why did Hindus follow this man so blindly? There was no proper mass communication network in those days, no social media to influence people, no widespread radio services to reach masses, very few could read newspapers. So why is it that Hindus, like the sheep, started blindly following this man so much that it became a phenomenon.

Is there is a book that anyone can recommend, that makes an attempt to understand this buffoonery of gigantic proportions by the Hindus?
One book that gives a reasonable answer is `Rise of Gandhi to power', by Judith Brown.
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