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fanne wrote:50% morning, now 90% within an hour
Nationalist accounts?
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vmalik wrote:
Dilbu wrote:There will be more of such deliberate attempts to create riots in the country. Especially in states ruled by opposition. This is all part of the narrative of 'religious intolerance' they are trying to build in time for 2024.
huh?! What kind of third grade logic is this? You actually think that these 2 are hired guns?
Not hired but decentralized and autonomous cells
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Yes nationalist accounts
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vmalik wrote:
Dilbu wrote:There will be more of such deliberate attempts to create riots in the country. Especially in states ruled by opposition. This is all part of the narrative of 'religious intolerance' they are trying to build in time for 2024.
huh?! What kind of third grade logic is this? You actually think that these 2 are hired guns?
Saar, if you think 1 guy will behead and another guy will record for any other reason says you are too far away from reality. I cant think of personal vendetta , money , property dispute , or any other number of reasons when a crime is committed. There were 90k applicants for 3000 agnipath posts . Can anyone think why 200 cr property was destroyed in the name of policy last week....keep going month after month for a pattern

Note: Recording is for bragging rights not even 72 virgins in the after life. Why bragging rights ? One to prove faith another reason surely is someone in the chain of command needs to get paid.

Note: I didn't use the word "faith" in the regular sense of the word. I used it in "Prove yourself a made man" in a gang coming of age style. These are the lines drawn to prove faith in gang type operations ....ofcourse recording/bragging rights are quintessential
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vmalik wrote:
Dilbu wrote:There will be more of such deliberate attempts to create riots in the country. Especially in states ruled by opposition. This is all part of the narrative of 'religious intolerance' they are trying to build in time for 2024.
huh?! What kind of third grade logic is this? You actually think that these 2 are hired guns?
There is no need to hire anyone. They just have to create a conducive environment with passive and active support system including state support. There are enough idiots waiting around to jump in and commit the crime. Islamist activities in the state of Kerala is the perfect example.
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Dilbu saar is absolutely correct. One can see a clear pattern that is not too hard to ignore regarding what is happening in opposition ruled states. Murders, lynchings all those are occurring in Congress-alliance ruled states. Now it's up to the readers to conclude whatever they want, but there's a clear effort to incite riots or some sort of blowback. Palghar Sadhu lynchings and several others in state of Maharashtra (in last couple of years), and now in Rajasthan.
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Udaipur murder may be an ISI operation to cause Hindu-Muslim riots right when Modiji is an honoured guest in the UAE. This may sound like a conspiracy theory but I feel it cannot be ruled out.
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This is a result of constant polarization of the Muslim community over the last 30 years. The advent of WhatsApp and other mass messaging platform has made it much more widespread.

Add to that the constant Friday prayers.
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Shaktimaan wrote:Udaipur murder may be an ISI operation to cause Hindu-Muslim riots right when Modiji is an honoured guest in the UAE. This may sound like a conspiracy theory but I feel it cannot be ruled out.
You don't need any foreign hand. When domestic hands are ready to do the deed. That too without any incentive.
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Guys who did the beheading know it's a soft system and an army of human rights lawyers will make sure they have conjugal rights and be released after a few years. I would suggest that the area of the accused is put under lockdown, shut down local businesses etc. BIF ecosystem is the cover for ISIs has been there for long.
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The BIF and the mafia famiglia work like this, using any means that can to subvert the constitution and fundamental rights

Retired Judge MB Soni, revealed, he found that any petition related to Gujarat Riots filed by Teesta in SC, goes to the bench of Justice Aftab Alam.

It was later found out Aftab Alam's daughter Arusa Alam is a partner in Teesta Setalvad's NGO Citizens for Justice & Peace.

Read in full


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 175005.cms
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https://twitter.com/Shehzad_Ind/status/ ... 3315589120
Shehzad Jai Hind @Shehzad_Ind

Mamta Banerjee declares 21st July as day of “Jihad” against BJP! It is not just the language but the mindset & inherent communal dog whistle that is problematic-like a “Direct Action Day” call!
We have already seen targeting of one section post 2nd May after “Khela Hobe” !!
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IndraD wrote:Alt News co-founder Mohammed Zubair refuses to hand over electronic devices to cops after arrest https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/a ... 2022-06-28
he has formatted his device...btw zubair is a ghost..he's no presence beyond Twitter or MCA. No college etc no past. Quite suspicious...
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We have been compiling this exhaustive list since the last 12 years or so

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ArjunPandit wrote:
IndraD wrote:Alt News co-founder Mohammed Zubair refuses to hand over electronic devices to cops after arrest https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/a ... 2022-06-28
he has formatted his device...btw zubair is a ghost..he's no presence beyond Twitter or MCA. No college etc no past. Quite suspicious...
The BIF ecosystem routinely uses such mysterious characters. My memory fails me but there is this US based gora who was at the forefront of khalistani sponsored protests during CAA/farm bills agitation. OpIndia had done an article about him and chronicled his rise from a security guard with no connection to India to him becoming a prolific author and human rights campaigner !
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Shiv Aroor@ShivAroor

BREAKING: Maharashtra Governor calls for special session of Assembly for floor test on June 30.
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^^That turned out to be fake news. The letter which was leaked is not real. But Fadnavis has said that they have requested the governor to order a floor test.
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Shaktimaan wrote:Udaipur murder may be an ISI operation to cause Hindu-Muslim riots right when Modiji is an honoured guest in the UAE. This may sound like a conspiracy theory but I feel it cannot be ruled out.
ISI does not like their people to get caught because they might reveal the link. These two videotaped the whole thing and then threatened Modi. There was no way they weren't getting caught. No need to look for a foreign hand here. We saw huge mobs on the street shouting "Sar tan se juda". There are obviously going to be a few among them willing to actually carry out the deed.

Now I'm thinking that 16 year old Muslim boy who was slapped and then arrested for supporting Nupur Sharma is better off in jail. No telling what these monsters will do to him if he's released.

Nupur Sharma herself is only safe right now because she was given protection. Poor woman may never be able to feel safe again by herself in her own country.
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nachiket wrote:^^That turned out to be fake news. The letter which was leaked is not real. But Fadnavis has said that they have requested the governor to order a floor test.
Havent hizzoners put a stay on everything till July 11 th? If so how are they holding a floor test?
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No stay on floor test
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Not everything. They didn't explicitly put hold on floor test. In fact, Singhvi requested to do so, and was told dont confuse the matter. come to us when it happens.
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Dilbu wrote:
vmalik wrote:
huh?! What kind of third grade logic is this? You actually think that these 2 are hired guns?
There is no need to hire anyone. They just have to create a conducive environment with passive and active support system including state support. There are enough idiots waiting around to jump in and commit the crime. Islamist activities in the state of Kerala is the perfect example.
Yeah, so no need to put the blame on secular politicians. Every masjid should be treated like a potential jihadi production factory...Anything less is just closing your eyes and hoping the 1000 year old zombie virus just mutates away to a benign form on its own.
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Every time stuff happens, people start abusing Modi/Shah. The ecosystem is world wide primarily centered in US/UK/China/Pakistan. They have full complying assets in Indian media, INC, NCP, TMC, APP and places like JNU. There is an open collaboration between jihadis, Ford F, NYT, Wapo and hundreds of funding orgs. They are on 24x7 mission to put fires all over until common man is tired and blames Modi to bring Jihadi/FF funded orgs back to power
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This kind of beheading nonsense and threat will go on until these people are resisted during the act and beaten and shamed by public.
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Every Hindu house should have a sharp weapon or two for self-defense. Currently, they have nothing except one or two knives in the kitchen to cut vegetables. You never know when these Neanderthals will come barging in after taking offense for something or the other that you did or did not do. Last week I went to Nepal on work and took the opportunity to buy a high-quality Khukhri. It adorns a shelf in my bedroom now, just in case.

And never forget to curse Gandhi and Nehru every night for not allowing full transfer of population :mrgreen:
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dsreedhar wrote:This kind of beheading nonsense and threat will go on until these people are resisted during the act and beaten and shamed by public.
It seems there were 12 others who were present there and all but one ran away.
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If these jihadis have kids then they should be taken by the state and put up for adoption in order to secure them from this jehadi indoctrination. This will need change in law.
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Killing of an innocent tailor by beheading or slitting his throat and circulating the gruesome video by the butchers gruesome slitting of throat reminds me of danile pearl an American journo butchered by talibans in captivity.india should Internationale the issue by establishing the linking the murder of a Hindu with their handlers in Pakistan.
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rrao wrote:Killing of an innocent tailor by beheading or slitting his throat and circulating the gruesome video by the butchers gruesome slitting of throat reminds me of danile pearl an American journo butchered by talibans in captivity.india should Internationale the issue by establishing the linking the murder of a Hindu with their handlers in Pakistan.
what about handlers in NY and DC?
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Why do we always seem to think that these are pushed by "handlers" in Pak/ISI or some foreign NGO

I think it's time people realize that the perpetrators, the people they follow on social media, the the people that instigate this and the "maulvis" that flame this hatred are all born in India, Live in India and Indians.

Very easy to always blame shadow operatives of a foreign government but the reality is much scarier.. The entire ecosystem to manufacture hate now exists in India and there are millions more of such men who will gladly kill and gladly die for their cause.
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Why do we always seem to think that these are pushed by "handlers" in Pak/ISI or some foreign NGO

I think it's time people realize that the perpetrators, the people they follow on social media, the the people that instigate this and the "maulvis" that flame this hatred are all born in India, Live in India and Indians.

Very easy to always blame shadow operatives of a foreign government but the reality is much scarier.. The entire ecosystem to manufacture hate now exists in India and there are millions more of such men who will gladly kill and gladly die for their cause.
Spot on.
The ISI specializes in the more "professional" big bang terrorist operations with trained religious fanatics sent in after lengthy preparation and groundwork. There are millions more where these perpetrators came from, all in India.
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we should use to ban alzazeera ... call it as a fanatic terrorist network
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congress ruled states are #lynchistan - where freedom of speech is curtailed by angry mobs. such communal hatred. oped on open should only be directed towards congress govt for being a lynchinstan govt.
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Tanaji wrote:
nachiket wrote:^^That turned out to be fake news. The letter which was leaked is not real. But Fadnavis has said that they have requested the governor to order a floor test.
Havent hizzoners put a stay on everything till July 11 th? If so how are they holding a floor test?
This time it is verified news. Floor test ordered for June 30th.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/m ... 2022-06-29

Eknath Shinde is saying they will travel to Mumbai for the floor test. UT camp will try to get the 16 MLA's they were targeting disqualified before the test. If Raut's goons try to stop the MLA's from reaching Mantralaya there might be chaos on the streets. Anyone in Mumbai should be careful.
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nachiket wrote:Eknath Shinde is saying they will travel to Mumbai for the floor test. UT camp will try to get the 16 MLA's they were targeting disqualified before the test.
This is where it gets interesting. There is no speaker, and only the deputy speaker can decide on this. However, Shinde by virtue of being SS's floor leader in the assembly has officially expressed "no confidence" in the deputy speaker's right to hold office, which was followed by a letter from 2 independent MLAs stating that the deputy speaker cannot adjudicate on disqualification since he does not have the confidence of the house. On top of this is the stay by the HC till Jul 11, which hasn't stopped a floor test per se.

In effect, it's a stalemate now and the floor test might have to go ahead with the current strength of the house as is.

Interesting days ahead.
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arshyam wrote: This is where it gets interesting. There is no speaker, and only the deputy speaker can decide on this. However, Shinde by virtue of being SS's floor leader in the assembly has officially expressed "no confidence" in the deputy speaker's right to hold office, which was followed by a letter from 2 independent MLAs stating that the deputy speaker cannot adjudicate on disqualification since he does not have the confidence of the house. On top of this is the stay by the HC till Jul 11, which hasn't stopped a floor test per se.

In effect, it's a stalemate now and the floor test might have to go ahead with the current strength of the house as is.

Interesting days ahead.
Yes it is a complicated situation that is going to end in a legal battle. I am not aware of the rules but if the Dy Speaker is facing a no-confidence motion based on which the disqualification of the MLA's has been stayed, can he then preside on the floor test itself? The SC did not stop the floor test explicitly but if one is carried out in these circumstances and the MVA loses they will approach the SC again with a new petition to declare it invalid since the matter of the disqualification of MLA's was still being adjudicated.
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While every incident of violence on Hindus may or may not be triggered by videshi forces, if any foreign power wants to meddle or needle India, triggering communal riots is the easiest to do and hurts India in multiple ways. The RoI multiplies if the majority responds back in kind.

The best way for GoI to deal with it is act super fast against such rioters, their puppeteers and media wallahs who misreport. Every time. Take them out of circulation with jail time, fast track cases to ensure sentences are handed out. And quickly publish with an official true narration of events to prevent spread and diminish future RoI.

Looks like with the examples shown by Yogi and Hemanta, HM is slowly getting there. There is no let up in this game, every case must be dealt with with the same unflinching rigour and discipline.
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Cyrano wrote: Looks like with the examples shown by Yogi and Hemanta, HM is slowly getting there. There is no let up in this game, every case must be dealt with with the same unflinching rigour and discipline.
The problem is the courts. They acquitted Akbaruddin Owaisi despite having an entire video showing him inciting violence against Hindus. If the govt. goes after those who shouted the "Sar tan se juda" slogans there is even less likelihood of any of them getting convicted. There is zero possibility of Zubair himself getting convicted in the courts. He's only being charged with expressing hate against a religion, not inciting violence from what I have understood. Only thing the govt. can do is make them experience the inside of a jail cell for a while.
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nachiket wrote:
Cyrano wrote: Looks like with the examples shown by Yogi and Hemanta, HM is slowly getting there. There is no let up in this game, every case must be dealt with with the same unflinching rigour and discipline.
The problem is the courts. They acquitted Akbaruddin Owaisi despite having an entire video showing him inciting violence against Hindus. If the govt. goes after those who shouted the "Sar tan se juda" slogans there is even less likelihood of any of them getting convicted. There is zero possibility of Zubair himself getting convicted in the courts. He's only being charged with expressing hate against a religion, not inciting violence from what I have understood. Only thing the govt. can do is make them experience the inside of a jail cell for a while.
Two years in a jail can make anyone a convert IF the ruling power wants it. Look how Power and Momta didi deal with their enemies.
BTW, Rahul Gandhi has openly supported this zoobear guy so I'm not surprised that his party has setting with this dude and all his handlers in foreign lands. Zoobear is a low level operative.
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Zoobear will be in jail for a few days/weeks at the most. He will get bail after that. Only way to put him in jail for 2 years is to get a conviction. The charge against Owaisi was more serious and evidence more convincing and he only spent 40 days in prison.
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