2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

nits · Post by **nits** » 25 Aug 2022 12:45

Nitin Gadkari dropped from BJP parliamentary board after RSS brass nod’

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 25 Aug 2022 13:09

US journalist deported from Delhi airport, family claims he was on personal visit
US-based 'Vice' journalist Angad Singh aka shaheen baag champion had come to India for a family reunion and was sent back because of his work, claimed his family.
https://indianexpress.com/article/citie ... t-8110548/

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 25 Aug 2022 13:49

#Breaking
SC agrees to reconsider sweeping PMLA judgment.
@AneeshaMathur
gets us more details.
#ITVideo https://twitter.com/IndiaToday/status/1 ... pEwMofuK6w

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 25 Aug 2022 13:50

On what basis?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Aug 2022 14:21

Pratyush wrote:On what basis?

It is hurting jihadi and BIF supporters

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 25 Aug 2022 16:33

Pratyush wrote:On what basis?

only on 27 July SC passed order on PMLA and power with ED, case was filed by congy vakeels (Sibbal et al), SC showed some spine and gave righteous judgement but this time pressure seems to be more & severe: either upcoming decision is wrong or what was stated on July was wrong! Penguins frustrating fight against corruption

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Aug 2022 19:19

IndraD wrote:
Pratyush wrote:On what basis?
only on 27 July SC passed order on PMLA and power with ED, case was filed by congy vakeels (Sibbal et al), SC showed some spine and gave righteous judgement but this time pressure seems to be more & severe: either upcoming decision is wrong or what was stated on July was wrong! Penguins frustrating fight against corruption

ZERO SIBAL threatened

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 25 Aug 2022 19:22

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/i ... 39218.html
And this : incoherent judgement, incomprehensible writing.

And yet the Collegium survives!!
Too much political the judges are.
Better if they an IAS type entrance exam to assess their essay writing and judicial acumen
Otherwise this to and fro to continue

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 25 Aug 2022 19:48

And they said this in a 1000 page judgement?!

RajeevK · Post by **RajeevK** » 25 Aug 2022 20:41

Rsatchi wrote:https://www.deccanherald.com/national/i ... 39218.html
And this : incoherent judgement, incomprehensible writing.
And yet the Collegium survives!!
Too much political the judges are.
Better if they an IAS type entrance exam to assess their essay writing and judicial acumen,

From the article

"A bench of Justices DY Chandrachud and AS Bopanna, which set aside an order of Himachal Pradesh High Court on the ground that it was incomprehensible, said that

"the purpose of judicial writing is not to confuse or confound the reader behind the veneer of complex language"

"The expression of a judge is an unfolding of the recesses of the mind. However, while recesses of the mind may be inscrutable, the reasoning in judgement cannot be. While judges may have their own style of judgement writing, they must ensure lucidity in writing across these styles
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"It speaks to those in society who are impacted by the discourse. In the layered formulation of analysis, a judgement speaks to the present and the future. Whether or not the writer of a judgement envisions it, the written product remains for the future, representing another incremental step in societal dialogue"

The irony is they are talking about incomprehensible verdicts by using esoteric and complex words in sentences themselves.
I say instead of IAS type entrance exam they should first filter the applicants by reading their 100,000 word PhD theses and then the exam would be to write 2-3 100,000 word essays.

here is the link to the 19 page judgement

As usual they have quoted from a speech by Lord Burrows of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom who then quotes a Lord Bingham. There is also a reference to academic writing of Justice Daphne Barak-Erez of the Supreme Court of Israel and then from a lecture by Lord Neuberger, the former President of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom; also from a lecture by Justice M.M. Corbett, Former Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of South Africa; and then Justice Michael Kirby, a distinguished former judge of the High Court of Australia

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 25 Aug 2022 21:06

https://twitter.com/i/status/1562321971701960706

Watch to the end.

Akheer wich, aa Sikh ton reya naie gaya, 'aseen ve raj kitaa si'. Too bad the interview was edited.

Why does every naya deen have this thing to rule Hindostan, failure of which aim will lead to their own religion being compromised? I don't believe they really think their own religions are so shallow.

Or am I missing the intent of this speaker?

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 25 Aug 2022 21:30

Somehow all these heroes don't feel the urge to rule on the lands which are currently in Pakistan.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 25 Aug 2022 23:02

I know someone who is from Peshawar, from the time when there was a substantial Hindu population. He tells me he never ever heard the war cry Raj Karega Khalsa when growing up there.

This is a violation of minority rights. It is good that India permits such ardour, as well as public pronouncements of sar tan de juda.

If nothing else it is instructive for the meek Hindu. Keeps him in his place.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 26 Aug 2022 00:55

RajeevK wrote: As usual they have quoted from a speech by Lord Burrows of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom who then quotes a Lord Bingham. There is also a reference to academic writing of Justice Daphne Barak-Erez of the Supreme Court of Israel and then from a lecture by Lord Neuberger, the former President of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom; also from a lecture by Justice M.M. Corbett, Former Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of South Africa; and then Justice Michael Kirby, a distinguished former judge of the High Court of Australia

This is where I absolutely loved the bitch-slap that VP Venkaiah Naidu had given to that AAP MP who quoted some BS report from some Scandie pricks (towards 2:27 mark)

Someone in public space will have to give that sort of candid comments about where they can place those references from foreign institutions and personalities.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 26 Aug 2022 12:40

Mean while giving a major blow to secularism; Ghulam Nabi Azad quits Congress, says party run by sycophants. Hope he is not offered positions by the BJP.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 26 Aug 2022 12:50

Sachin wrote:Mean while giving a major blow to secularism; Ghulam Nabi Azad quits Congress, says party run by sycophants. Hope he is not offered positions by the BJP.

So does the G23 now become the G22?

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 26 Aug 2022 13:03

Sachin wrote:Mean while giving a major blow to secularism; Ghulam Nabi Azad quits Congress, says party run by sycophants. Hope he is not offered positions by the BJP.

He was given Padma Bushan this year. Must have been useful in some way. I wouldn't think too much of it if he joins BJP. He would be the biggest muslim leader ever to join BJP? Or perhaps start his own party and forms an alliance with BJP.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 26 Aug 2022 13:48

Politics is a young man's game. Azad or any member of the so called G23, longer has the energy or the imagination to be an active political leader.

His lack of imagination also makes him unfit to be a mentor for new generation of non congress political leaders.

Sharad Pawar and Biju Patnaik are also in pretty much the same place.

Mamta has the energy of a street fighter but lacks the imagination and finesse to accomplish anything substantial.

AK, is a cunning operator. The way he made an event of the nothing burger raid on Sisodia. Shows that he is picking up a fight with Modi. Modi cannot be seen responding to him openly. That gives AK a perception of winning by default.

Unless AK is completely destroyed, he is going to a pole that the Anti Modi vote will coalesce arround. With his politics it's going to be too damaging.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 26 Aug 2022 14:27

Pratyush wrote:AK, is a cunning operator. The way he made an event of the nothing burger raid on Sisodia. Shows that he is picking up a fight with Modi. Modi cannot be seen responding to him openly. That gives AK a perception of winning by default.

Some times I get a feeling that BIF (outside the country) has lost hopes on Shri. Pappu Ghandi & Co. And that they are now relying heavily on Kejriwal and AAP to s-crew up India. Main stream media on cue have also started tom-tomming Kejriwal's victories (!?). Think about it; Kejriwal says BJP approaches his MLAs with 20 crore each. No evidence, no proof; but main stream media gives it a coverage as it is a true event. Only thing which I liked is that common people are able to call Kejriwal's bluff in such stories. But what is more dangerous is the freebie culture which this person is peddling. Freebie culture is going to make every one lazy, have a sense of entitlement and also have poor self esteem. It may be only in the last 10-20 years that the Indian society in general is trying to change this behaviour. But Kejriwal wants to bring this back.

Unless AK is completely destroyed, he is going to a pole that the Anti Modi vote will coalesce arround. With his politics it's going to be too damaging.

We may need to analyse the profile of the people who are generally pro-AAP. Because I still get a feeling that AAP is still to get a pan-India presence and have credible leaders across India. We must also remember that when it comes to Lok Sabha elections Kejri's novice candidates will have to fight with more experienced/seasoned politicians from other parties who are more established. My sample size of AAP-tards are limited. One; was IT-Vity chap who returned to India after a long stint in Europe and had a very idealestic view on Indian politics. Two; another IT-Vity chap who returned to India after a long stint in US. Both had commie leanings in college and today have turned towards AAP mainly because they cannot defend the politics of the communist parties in India. Now with a better life style; they really cannot take out the I am poor, marginalised worker crap as well. And both have a feeling that IIT trained people some how can solve India's problems. Both also seems to be not connected to the local administration or political outfits.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 26 Aug 2022 18:54

hanumadu wrote:
Sachin wrote:Mean while giving a major blow to secularism; Ghulam Nabi Azad quits Congress, says party run by sycophants. Hope he is not offered positions by the BJP.
He was given Padma Bushan this year. Must have been useful in some way. I wouldn't think too much of it if he joins BJP. He would be the biggest muslim leader ever to join BJP? Or perhaps start his own party and forms an alliance with BJP.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/j-k/g ... des-425595

Ghulam Nabi Azad set to float new party in J&K, say close aides

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 26 Aug 2022 20:48

AK's lies are exposed so much on internet

Truth is one, lies are many
https://twitter.com/AMIT_GUJJU/status/1 ... 3370004483

https://twitter.com/sujeetgupta56/statu ... 5767108608

Rahul Shivshankar
@RShivshankar

What NYT hasn't told you yet:

In 2020 CVC had red flagged irregularities in construction of additional classrooms in Delhi. Apparently toilets were counted as classrooms!

Now, L-G writes to Delhi Chief Secretary seeking to know why the probe on CVC report was delayed.

Rajeev Chandrasekhar
@Rajeev_GoI
Tortured twists n turns of politics of corruption n lies in a short video
https://twitter.com/Rajeev_GoI/status/1 ... 4582648834

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 28 Aug 2022 04:51

Rsatchi wrote:Better if they an IAS type entrance exam to assess their essay writing and judicial acumen
Otherwise this to and fro to continue

Have you seen the essay writing skills of the 50%ile IAS folks?!!!

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 28 Aug 2022 05:06

Sachin wrote:And both have a feeling that IIT trained people some how can solve India's problems.

Dollars to donuts, neither of them go to IIT. Am I right?

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 28 Aug 2022 10:00

Vayutuvan wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:Better if they an IAS type entrance exam to assess their essay writing and judicial acumen
Otherwise this to and fro to continue
Have you seen the essay writing skills of the 50%ile IAS folks?!!!

Yeah they are equally bad agreed.
But at least there is an exam!

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 29 Aug 2022 02:33

Please check this video about how they falsified the history in the movie GOLD about India winning gold medal in olympics in pre-independent India.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 29 Aug 2022 03:26

Hard to watch Rajdeep and Wife murderer spewing filth on Hindus and trying every thing to divide Indian - Hindi vs Non-Hindi/South vs North/Hindu bigots vs great Muslims but Harsh Madhusudhan did a great job in countering these bozos

Zynda · Post by **Zynda** » 29 Aug 2022 06:51

^^Harsh is definitely one of the better speakers...so erudite and brings out the points lucidly...Shashi's rejoinder to half of Harsh's points seems to be that "I've written a <> about it"

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 29 Aug 2022 15:37

Supreme Court notice to Karnataka over High Court's Hijab ban order
"You have been repeatedly asking for urgent hearing but now are seeking adjournments. This kind of forum shopping can't be permitted," the bench told the counsel.
A batch of 24 separate petitions filed by individuals as well as several NGOs like All India Democratic Women's Association, Women's Voice, Forum for Secular Theo-Democracy, Muslim Girls and Women's Movement, Muslim Women's Study Circle were listed

I learnt a new word today. Secular Theo-Democracy

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SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 29 Aug 2022 17:02

^^Meaning followers of the 'Kitaab' but Sikular hainji
Just like the 'Gender Neutral' This is 'Abrahamic Neutral'

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 29 Aug 2022 17:32

the new CJI got back to drama as soon as he took over

Republic @republic
CJI Lalit-led bench will hear pleas of Siddique Kappan & Navlakha, PILs on Monday

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 29 Aug 2022 19:25

Ishkaran Singh Bhandari @ishkarnBHANDARI

Did India Today in its Report actually change the name of monster ShahRukh who set fire to the young girl in Dumka as Abhisekh?

Imagine how news was presented before Social Media age.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 30 Aug 2022 17:07

Supreme Court seeks centre government’s response on extending reservation benefits to Dalits who have converted to Christianity and Islam.
Don't know if there would be any Chanakyan/master strokes coming in from GoI

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vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 30 Aug 2022 19:26

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 30 Aug 2022 19:27

Sachin wrote:Supreme Court seeks centre government’s response on extending reservation benefits to Dalits who have converted to Christianity and Islam.
Don't know if there would be any Chanakyan/master strokes coming in from GoI .

They are doing everything to trip BJP before 2024. Hope these chanakyas don't fall for these

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 30 Aug 2022 21:18

SC refuses to grant permission for Ganesh Chaturthi celebrations at Idgah Maidan in Bengaluru. It also told the Hindu community to conduct its festival elsewhere.

Sibal, for his part, said no irreparable injury would be caused to anyone if festival was not allowed over there. "Children can play on the ground, Republic and Independence day function can be held but no other religious community ceremony could be allowed as it will have consequences," he said.

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 30 Aug 2022 23:10

Sachin wrote:SC refuses to grant permission for Ganesh Chaturthi celebrations at Idgah Maidan in Bengaluru. It also told the Hindu community to conduct its festival elsewhere.

Sibal, for his part, said no irreparable injury would be caused to anyone if festival was not allowed over there. "Children can play on the ground, Republic and Independence day function can be held but no other religious community ceremony could be allowed as it will have consequences," he said.

Incredible India! A Ganpati pandal in Mumbai offers space to Muslim brothers to offer namaz

True meaning of Sahih International Quran 109.6: For you is your religion, and for me is my religion

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 30 Aug 2022 23:14

^NDTV claims Idgah is Waqf property. True?

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ganesh- ... _topscroll

Quote, "A petition to stop Ganesh Chaturthi rituals on a second Wakf property in Karnataka is being heard by the High Court. The petition was filed after the Supreme Court ordered status quo regarding Eidgah land in Chamrajpet, over 400 km away."

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 30 Aug 2022 23:31

krithivas wrote:^NDTV claims Idgah is Waqf property. True?

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ganesh- ... _topscroll

Quote, "A petition to stop Ganesh Chaturthi rituals on a second Wakf property in Karnataka is being heard by the High Court. The petition was filed after the Supreme Court ordered status quo regarding Eidgah land in Chamrajpet, over 400 km away."

Yes... There are 2 Idgah maidan... One in hubli and one in blore. Both are illegally occupied by peaceful people. They have no papers but they pray every year so they claim.

SC stoped the pooja at Chamrajpet (blore) but HC gave green signal at hubli...

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 31 Aug 2022 07:24

When nota anandranganathan says "welcome to islamic republic of india", it is very true. Our temples are captured by government and we need to beg for a place to do our pooja.

Let me give you another example. In mysore there is a famous temple "Sri Chamundeshwari Temple". The minimum collection of the temple is 3.5 cr per month in 2021 one of the road collapsed due to rain. As this road was not taken by tourists and used by only locals, this road has not been repaired till date..

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 31 Aug 2022 09:11

madhu wrote:Yes... There are 2 Idgah maidan... One in hubli and one in blore. Both are illegally occupied by peaceful people. They have no papers but they pray every year so they claim.

For the one in Bangalore, do the peacefool community have land records which show they have possession for the entire grounds? Or is it only for a small portion within the ground where there is some religious structure? And this time the seculars lost in Hubli, but I am sure next year seculars and Kapil Sibal would be in Supreme Court before time to settle that matter as well.